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Red Dog
04-04-05, 02:44 PM
The Segregated Classrooms of a Proudly Diverse School
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN
NY Times

Published: April 3, 2005

APLEWOOD, N. J., April 1 - Columbia High School seems to have it all - great sports teams, great academics, famous alumni and an impressive campus with Gothic buildings. But no one boasts about one aspect of this blue-ribbon school, that its classrooms are largely segregated.

Though the school is majority black, white students make up the bulk of the advanced classes, while black students far outnumber whites in lower-level classes, statistics show.

"It's kind of sad," said Ugochi Opara, a senior who is president of the student council. "You can tell right away, just by looking into a classroom, what level it is."

This is a reality at many high schools coast to coast and one of the side effects of aggressive leveling, the increasingly popular practice of dividing students into ability groups.

But at Columbia High, the students nearly revolted. Two weeks ago, a black organization on campus planned a walkout to protest the leveling system. Word soon spread to the principal, who pleaded with the students not to go. The student leaders decided to hold an assembly instead, in which they lashed out at the racial gap.

The student uproar is now forcing district officials to take a hard look at the leveling system and decide how to strike a balance between their two main goals - celebrating diversity and pushing academic achievement.

Educators say that leveling allows smarter students to be challenged while giving struggling ones the special instruction they need. But many students, especially those in the lower levels, which often carry a stigma, say such stratification makes the rocky adolescent years only harder. And at Columbia High, there is no dispute that it is precisely the leveling system that has led to racial segregation.

Anthony Paolini, a senior at Columbia, is one of the few white students in a lower level math class. The fact that most of his classmates are black does not bother him, he said. But the low expectations do.

"It makes you feel like you're in a hole," he said.

The school, about 15 minutes from downtown Newark, draws from the cosmopolitan towns of Maplewood and South Orange. Some students live in million-dollar homes. Others rely on government lunches. Of 2,024 students, 58 percent are black, 35 percent white, 4 percent Hispanic and 3 percent Asian. The public school sends more than 90 percent of graduates to college, has a dropout rate of less than half a percent and won a national Blue Ribbon award from the federal government for its academic excellence during the 1992-93 school year. Notable alumni include the actor Zach Braff and the singer Lauryn Hill, and the fact that the two stars, one white, one black, graduated in the same class is seen as a symbol of the diversity Columbia strives to project.

But racial tension is becoming more of an issue. In recent years, the number of black students in the school district has eclipsed the number of white students even though Maplewood and South Orange still are majority white. In the past year, the district has been sued twice for discrimination: once by two former black students who said they were mistreated by teachers after a food-fight in the cafeteria, and also by a group of teachers, mostly black, who accused the principal, who is white, of racial bias.

The superintendent of the district, Peter P. Horoschak, acknowledged that there were, in a sense, two Columbias. The de facto segregation is most visible at the extremes. Statistics for this year show that while a Level 5 math class, the highest, had 79 percent white students, a Level 2 math class, the lowest, had 88 percent black students. Levels 3 and 4 tend to be more mixed, though a school board member, Mila M. Jasey, said, "Some white parents tell me that they know their kid belongs in a Level 3 class but they don't want them to be the only white kid in the class."

Though parents and students are granted some input, students are supposed to be placed in levels primarily based on grades and test scores. Many black students complain that they are unfairly relegated to the lower levels and unable to move up.

Quentin Williams, the 17-year-old leader of the Martin Luther King Association at the school, calls it "contemporary segregation." He said that his organization, one of the largest on campus, had tried to meet with the administration over the issue several times but "got the runaround."

So in mid-March his group planned to walk out of school. They even had the backing of several parents, who volunteered to help. As the date approached, Quentin, a senior, said he felt "a lot of pressure coming in from a lot of different angles."

Student leaders eventually decided that holding an assembly would give them a better opportunity to publicly confront administrators, especially the principal, Renee Pollack. At the assembly, which was mandatory for all students, she stood in front of the student body and apologized for saying anything that might have been construed as insensitive.

Ms. Pollack said later that complaints about her were being spread by teachers on her own staff.

"They were trying to manipulate the kids in order to get at me," said Ms. Pollack, who has been the principal for three years and is up for tenure this month.

The flashpoint of the assembly came when Nathan Winkler, a skinny, intense senior who says he wants to be governor some day, grabbed the microphone and announced that he had no sympathy for people in lower levels because all it took was hard work to move up.

His short outburst was like a cleaver, splitting the student body in two. Many blacks booed him. Many whites cheered. He was then accused of using the term "you people" in his speech - though he did not, according to a videotape of the assembly. After the assembly, he said, he was stalked in the hallways.

He now admits that he spoke out of fear.

"I felt extremely isolated during that assembly," he said. "For the first time I was aware of being part of the minority. White kids are outnumbered at Columbia. I knew that, but I hadn't really felt it before."

Student leaders and administrators are now discussing ways to narrow the so-called achievement gap, like granting students more say in which level they are in; better identifying which level students belong in; expanding a summer school program for students who want to take upper level classes. Administrators say they had been working on all this before the walkout threat.

"But the students forced the issue," Ms. Pollack acknowledged.

Ms. Pollack also pointed out that this year, more students of color from Columbia have been accepted into Ivy League universities than white students, with two Hispanic, three black and two white students gaining early admission.

The debate over leveling here boils down to fairness. Is it fair just to ensure equal access to upper level classes? Or does fairness go farther than that and require administrators to truly level the playing field so that the racial makeup of upper classes better resembles the racial makeup of the school?

Stewart Hendricks, a senior whose father is from Guyana and whose mother is Swiss, said that some teachers do seem to have lower expectations for black students but that he did not let them get him down.

"The purpose of high school is to prepare you for the real world," he said. "And in the real world, you can't listen to other peoples expectations, because in the real world, people are just waiting for you to fail."

Because of his mixed racial heritage, he said, "I guess you can say I'm in the middle of all this."

And in a way, that is why he sympathizes with the principal.

"She's got an entire black population that wants to get rid of the leveling system and an entire white population who would leave this town if they did that," he said. "What's she supposed to do?"



This is fucking madness. If you are in a lower level class, due to your failure to achieve and move up, then boo-fucking-hoo.

dtcarson
04-04-05, 02:52 PM
Political correctness and 'diversity', to me, have eradicated a lot of commonsense logic:

"Is it fair just to ensure equal access to upper level classes?
[Yes.]
Or does fairness go farther than that and require administrators to truly level the playing field so that the racial makeup of upper classes better resembles the racial makeup of the school?'

Well, um, no.

Why is diversity so important? I'm not saying we should have all-white or all-black schools, but diversity for diversity's sake [like this, and the Title IX sports issues] to me seems, well, racist. If you notice 99% of the kids in advanced classes are white, and that's disproportionate to the population, the 'fair' thing to do would be to try to see what the difference is between those two sets of populations. The totally unfair thing is to toss 5 more minorities in the class just to make the numbers; all that will do is tell them that 'You can't do it without our help', and like one of the kids says in the article, set them up for failure in the real world.

OldDude
04-04-05, 02:55 PM
This is fucking madness. If you are in a lower level class, due to your failure to achieve and move up, then boo-fucking-hoo.

I'm so inconsistent. On this one, I completely agree with you.

Groucho
04-04-05, 02:59 PM
Sounds like this school wants to take us back to the 1950's. Is the principal's last name Wallace by chance?

The solution to this is simple. Take the Top 33% of each group (race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc) and put them into the "Advanced" class. Take the middle 33% of each group and put them in the "Normal" class. And the bottom 33% goes into the "Remedial" class. Now, each class room has diversity, and the top students from each group are still abel to excel.

classicman2
04-04-05, 03:01 PM
I'm so inconsistent. On this one, I completely agree with you.

I knew you'd come around. :)

wendersfan
04-04-05, 03:07 PM
This is fucking madness. If you are in a lower level class, due to your failure to achieve and move up, then boo-fucking-hoo.You're a terrible, ghastly person. Don't you realize that there's no place for education in public education?

dtcarson
04-04-05, 03:10 PM
Sounds like this school wants to take us back to the 1950's. Is the principal's last name Wallace by chance?

The solution to this is simple. Take the Top 33% of each group (race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc) and put them into the "Advanced" class. Take the middle 33% of each group and put them in the "Normal" class. And the bottom 33% goes into the "Remedial" class. Now, each class room has diversity, and the top students from each group are still abel to excel.

Eventually you'd have groups of one. Assuming I was still of school age, I'd probably be the only white, middle-class, straight, conservative/libertarian, atheist, metalhead in the school. Etc.
And at its core, all that does is continue to segregate and group people by what 'they are' not what 'they can do.'

Ranger
04-04-05, 03:11 PM
This is fucking madness. If you are in a lower level class, due to your failure to achieve and move up, then boo-fucking-hoo.
You uncaring cad, where's your compassion?!! -wink-

Ranger
04-04-05, 03:12 PM
How about some diversity on the basketball team? :D

OldDude
04-04-05, 03:24 PM
How about some diversity on the basketball team? :D

We could do a 50/50 mix with the swim team. Then both would be perfectly integrated.

Myster X
04-04-05, 03:25 PM
Maybe People magazine should write an article on it like they did with the Oscar being "Blackout" a few years back.

Groucho
04-04-05, 03:35 PM
Eventually you'd have groups of one. Assuming I was still of school age, I'd probably be the only white, middle-class, straight, conservative/libertarian, atheist, metalhead in the school.Well, let's be reasonable. We'd only want to break things down by federally protected groups.

wendersfan
04-04-05, 03:46 PM
Well, let's be reasonable. We'd only want to break things down by federally protected groups.As an Appalachian I'm considered part of a minority group by my employer. It's ludicrous.

Breakfast with Girls
04-04-05, 04:23 PM
I have a problem with segregating kids for any reason except by gender. There should be one level of expectations and one pace. If you can't keep up, there should be programs to help you, tutors you can go to, etc. But just expecting less is not the solution.

Pharoh
04-04-05, 04:32 PM
Read the book by Dr. Obgu. I just wonder if the culture of underperformance is also being perpetuated at Columbia High School?

dtcarson
04-04-05, 04:45 PM
I have a problem with segregating kids for any reason except by gender. There should be one level of expectations and one pace. If you can't keep up, there should be programs to help you, tutors you can go to, etc. But just expecting less is not the solution.

That's a good point, to an extent. As long as class size remains 'reasonable,' having varied skill levels in a class *could* serve to motivate the underperformers. And while most schools grade on the A-F system, an A for a person who took all Advanced and AP courses might not be as 'meaningful' as an A for a person who took Basic level courses. But should the person taking Adv courses be 'handicapped', so his B is worth the Basic-level person's A? It's an interesting discussion, and I don't know what the right answer is. I know when I was in high school, and my parents said, "Well, so and so got an A," I'd respond "They're taking Basic, I'm in Advanced." I guess it's important for each teacher, parent, potential employer, and college entry board to be familiar with a student's capabilities and know that A means he did well on a level of study befitting him. Then that renders meaningless the ability to compare this person's A to this person's B...
Of course, it could also de-motivate them, or bore the overperformers, so neither group would be served well. I think we may go to far with the various levels, and certainly 'toning down' an advanced class to include people who can't handle it isn't fair to anyone, but I'm of the opinion that the best way to help people 'succeed' is to help them improve themselves, rather than 'handicap' everyone else.

Realistically, though, we *do* expect 'less' of some people. Not everyone is good at everything, and someone is always better than you at something. Even in my current work environment, people come to me for Excel help, not Word; a coworker is much better at Word than I am. I want to say people can do whatever they put their minds to, and they can, to an extent, but in many cases sheer doggedness can't replace inborn 'talent' or 'skill.' And one can't rely solely on talent/skill for long, without practice or attention or study. No matter how much I practice, I'll never be a Shaquille, though I could get better than I am today.

Then again, why is it ok to separate based on gender? The same arguments could be made, on both academic and physical pursuits, that boys/girls should not be held to 'lesser standards'.

Breakfast with Girls
04-04-05, 05:14 PM
Of course, it could also de-motivate them, or bore the overperformers, so neither group would be served well. I think we may go to far with the various levels, and certainly 'toning down' an advanced class to include people who can't handle it isn't fair to anyone.It's high school. <i>Everyone's</i> bored. ;)

Realistically, though, we *do* expect 'less' of some people. Not everyone is good at everything, and someone is always better than you at something.Acknowledging this is not acknowledging failure. There is a bell curve for a reason -- people fall on either side for any given area. But the only fair method is setting the bar and expecting people to reach that bar, and helping those with difficulty who want help to do so as well.

Then again, why is it ok to separate based on gender? The same arguments could be made, on both academic and physical pursuits, that boys/girls should not be held to 'lesser standards'.They would be held to equal standards, just separated so they can concentrate on the content instead of the opposite gender.

wmansir
04-04-05, 05:21 PM
I have a problem with segregating kids for any reason except by gender.

If you think discrimination in education based on ability is bad you should take a look at age discrimination. It's rampant!!

Pharoh
04-04-05, 05:25 PM
Sounds like this school wants to take us back to the 1950's. Is the principal's last name Wallace by chance?

The solution to this is simple. Take the Top 33% of each group (race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc) and put them into the "Advanced" class. Take the middle 33% of each group and put them in the "Normal" class. And the bottom 33% goes into the "Remedial" class. Now, each class room has diversity, and the top students from each group are still abel to excel.



:hscratch:

Was the principal the one who separated the classes based upon race?

Pharoh
04-04-05, 05:26 PM
I have a problem with segregating kids for any reason except by gender. There should be one level of expectations and one pace. If you can't keep up, there should be programs to help you, tutors you can go to, etc. But just expecting less is not the solution.


You believe this to be a feasible policy? Or a equitable one?

Geofferson
04-04-05, 06:02 PM
They would be held to equal standards, just separated so they can concentrate on the content instead of the opposite gender.
Exactly.

There was actually a recent study supporting this notion that boys are better taught when in an all-boys classroom rather than a boys and girls classroom precisely because they are focusing their attention on the subject matter and not on the girls. It's amazing to me that a study needed to be performed to come to this conclusion.

Regarding the original article...yeah, that's pretty ridiculous (but not surprising to me).

wendersfan
04-04-05, 06:07 PM
:hscratch:

Was the principal the one who separated the classes based upon race?
Sounds to me like it was the students who did it, through academic performance.

Breakfast with Girls
04-04-05, 07:29 PM
You believe this to be a feasible policy? Or a equitable one?Yes. Does it hurt to try? Can it be worse than putting a kid in a class and expecting next to nothing from him? The intention behind separate classes is to give him extra help, but I think people strive to achieve more if big things are expected of them. Remedial classes, to me, almost seem like one step away from training them to work in fast food, or stock shelves.

OldDude
04-04-05, 07:41 PM
Yes. Does it hurt to try? Can it be worse than putting a kid in a class and expecting next to nothing from him? The intention behind separate classes is to give him extra help, but I think people strive to achieve more if big things are expected of them. Remedial classes, to me, almost seem like one step away from training them to work in fast food, or stock shelves.

Maybe you are bringing baggage from other school systems to this thread?
The school has a <0.5% drop out rate, 90% of the kids go on to college. That is from all level classes, not just the AP.

The article isn't completely clear, but I am guessing the kids can take AP exams and potentially receive college credit for the AP classes. The kids not at the level can perform at the level expected in high school and go on to do college work at college.

Breakfast with Girls
04-04-05, 08:33 PM
Maybe you are bringing baggage from other school systems to this thread?:lol: No, I was not a remedial student.

The school has a <0.5% drop out rate, 90% of the kids go on to college. That is from all level classes, not just the AP.I agree, that's great. But it's at the unintentional cost of dividing the school along racial lines, which increases animosity both between black students and white students and between black students and faculty.

dtcarson
04-04-05, 08:37 PM
And that's the issue--is something like 'racist' or a true reflection of the status quo? I didn't see that they have a 90% college rate--that sounds pretty good to me. As long as it's 'fair', that is, that there's no inherent racial bias in the system, we can start with that number. If one race is overrepresented in either the going- or not-going to college, try to determine the underlying issues thereof, don't just say Well, we have to make the numbers match, so we're dumbing down courses, or putting kids in courses they aren't able to handle.

How is 'you people' a racial/racist phrase? What's next, 'youse' or 'y'all' or 'you guys' [oh, that's sexist too].

Ranger
04-04-05, 08:42 PM
Is it common for junior high schools to have AP classes? I think when I was in school, only high school had the ap system. So I guess I could get BWG's view - why single out high schools to have AP?

SFranke
04-05-05, 11:02 AM
Once again, liberals attempt to cure racism by keeping minorities ignorant.

sfsdfd
04-05-05, 11:27 AM
The intention behind separate classes is to give him extra help, but I think people strive to achieve more if big things are expected of them.
You're advocating a chance for the slower students to catch up, over the <i>certainty</i> of slowing down the advanced students.

I was always one of the brightest students in my class, but this hugely worked against me in early grade school - I'd pick up the lesson in the first five minutes, and then sit there, horribly bored, for three days. I wanted to be learning more, pushing myself, but I had no opportunity to do it - it was agonizing. (And this was at an expensive, private school; had I been in public school, this would've been compounded.)

As a result, I just completely tuned out from school. I stopped caring about learning, because it was dribbled out at such a trickle that it didn't hold my interest. This worked against me in college, when I was actually challenged; but by then I'd spent about twelve years tuned out, and old habits die hard.

So I advocate an even greater diversification of education along difficulty lines. At its most optimal, each student is fed an information stream tuned to his learning pace, most likely by a computerized program. This breaks a lot of concepts - even the entire concept of grades! - but imagine how skilled they'll be after twelve years of tuned education.

- David Stein

Groucho
04-05-05, 11:32 AM
I was always one of the brightest students in my class, but this hugely worked against me in early grade school - I'd pick up the lesson in the first five minutes, and then sit there, horribly bored, for three days. I wanted to be learning more, pushing myself, but I had no opportunity to do it - it was agonizing.Wow, you just described my experience reading this forum to a "T."

sfsdfd
04-05-05, 11:38 AM
Can it be worse than putting a kid in a class and expecting next to nothing from him?
I can think of something worse: stifling the abilities of a brighter kid.

I don't understand your comments because the students who do better in the lower section can move up to a faster pace (and students who can't keep up can move down.) The opportunity is there; they just have to take it. This is probably a good lesson for life, too: the things worth having usually require effort.

- David Stein

sfsdfd
04-05-05, 11:39 AM
Wow, you just described my experience reading this forum to a "T."
Well, we wouldn't want you to suffer. How about we suspend your account for four out of every five days?

- David Stein

Groucho
04-05-05, 11:41 AM
Well, we wouldn't want you to suffer. How about we suspend your account for four out of every five days?Thanks for illustrating my point. There are actually Six days in every week, not five.

sfsdfd
04-05-05, 11:53 AM
Thanks for illustrating my point. There are actually Six days in every week, not five.
I was imagining kind of a rotating schedule. But if you'd prefer a weekly schedule, we can arrange that. We will customize our Groucho-suspension policies to suit your interests.

- David Stein

Breakfast with Girls
04-05-05, 12:16 PM
You're advocating a chance for the slower students to catch up, over the <i>certainty</i> of slowing down the advanced students.Listen, that was my experience as well, even in the advanced classes. I hated academics in high school, but I loved them in college. One of the big reasons for that is that if I understood a lesson in college, I could get up and leave class and not have to listen to it for the rest of the period. But high school is not college, and public education is more about keeping kids out of trouble than educating them.

I think the answer is a standard education with better supplemental programs, on both sides of the bell curve.

bhk
04-05-05, 03:11 PM
How about we just give everyone a 1600 on the SAT, after all, kids who don't do well might feel bad.

I agree with Stein, you shouldn't penalize the brighter kids just to make the ones that aren't as bright feel better.