Hypothetical 2008 Presidential Questions....

[MartinBlank]

1.) Condi Rice vs. Hillary Clinton.....who would the NAACP support?

2.) Condi Rice vs. Any Democrat.....who would NOW support?

[Thor Simpson]

Well, since Condi Rice isn't going to run, you might as well be asking questions about Big Bird vs. Fat Albert.

[Pharoh]

1. Mrs. Clinton

2. Any Democrat.


Both choices would be appropriate.

[classicman2]

Well, since Condi Rice isn't going to run, you might as well be asking questions about Big Bird vs. Fat Albert.

How do you know she's not going to run?

[B.A.]

How do you know she's not going to run?
She recently said on a news program that she never plans to run for any elected office.

Why would she lie?

;)

[classicman2]

She also told friends & colleagues that she was not interested in the Secretary of State job.

I think there is a good chance she will run - assuming nothing blows up in this adminstration's face; and her mentor, George W., grooms for the job. ;)

[jfoobar]

I think there is a good chance she will run - assuming nothing blows up in this adminstration's face; and her mentor, George W., grooms for the job. ;)

That would be very interesting. I have predicted in the past that the first woman President would be a Republican. It is hard to imagine the GOP hardcore base getting too enthused about an African-American woman President.

If she went for a Senate seat instead, what is her official state of residence now?

[JasonF]

If she went for a Senate seat instead, what is her official state of residence now?

I would guess California (since she was at Stanford prior to coming to work for the President) or D.C., with an outside possibility at Maryland or Virginia.

So what about Condoleeza Rice versus Ditka? I predict Ditka by 533 electoral votes.

[Red Dog]

The bettors like Condi's chances. Her odds have dropped from 100-1 to 50-1 over the last few months. :)

[Red Dog]

I would guess California (since she was at Stanford prior to coming to work for the President) or D.C., with an outside possibility at Maryland or Virginia.

So what about Condoleeza Rice versus Ditka? I predict Ditka by 533 electoral votes.


Maryland's GOP could theoretically recruit her to run for Sarbanes seat in 2006.

[classicman2]

You don't have to be a resident of the state to run for the senate - look at Hillary.

[JasonF]

You don't have to be a resident of the state to run for the senate - look at Hillary.
Hillary was a resident of New York when she ran for the Senate, just as Dick Cheney wasn't a resident of Texas when he ran for the Vice Presidency. Carpetbagging has a long and storied tradition in our Republic, but there are certain rules that must be followed.

[classicman2]

How did Hillary become a resident of New York?

In Cheney's case, you don't have be a resident of any particular state to run for the VP. You simply have to be a native born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35.

Therefore, your carpetbag comment doesn't apply to Mr. Cheney, does it? ;)

[Red Dog]

How did Hillary become a resident of New York?

In Cheney's case, you don't have be a resident of any particular state to run for the VP. You simply have to be a native born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35.

Therefore, your carpetbag comment doesn't apply to Mr. Cheney, does it? ;)



Yeah, but if Cheney state of residence is Texas (same as Bush's), he is precluded from running for VP under the Constitution. He 'found' another state.

[Cptkirk]

How did Hillary become a resident of New York?

In Cheney's case, you don't have be a resident of any particular state to run for the VP. You simply have to be a native born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35.

Therefore, your carpetbag comment doesn't apply to Mr. Cheney, does it? ;)

Hillary bought a condo and changed residency about 8-12 months prior to the election making her a New York Resident.

Some states have weird rules that the Pres and VP can't be from the same state, so Cheney changed his residency, though he already had the residence in Wyoming(?)

[classicman2]

Cheney lived in Wyoming a lot longer than he did in Texas.

He represented Wyoming in the U. S. House of Representatives.

When did Hillary ever live in New York?

[Red Dog]

Some states have weird rules that the Pres and VP can't be from the same state, so Cheney changed his residency, though he already had the residence in Wyoming(?)


As I alluded to, that is a Constitutional rule.

[Venusian]

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;

Cheney could run from Texas, but the Texas electors couldn't vote for him

[Red Dog]

Cheney lived in Wyoming a lot longer than he did in Texas.

He represented Wyoming in the U. S. House of Representatives.

When did Hillary ever live in New York?



Who cares where one spent most of their life? That has nothing to do with actual residency rules. I lived in Maryland longer than I have lived in Virginia, but I just can't up and run for Senate in Maryland.

[classicman2]

Of course you can if you maintain a residence in Maryland.

Cheney maintained a residence in Wyoming.

He probably claimed to a resident of Texas, because Texas doesn't have a state income tax. ;)

[Red Dog]

Of course you can if you maintain a residence in Maryland.

Cheney maintained a residence in Wyoming.

He probably claimed to a resident of Texas, because Texas doesn't have a state income tax. ;)


Thanks - you already answered my next question. :)

The point remains - where you spent most of your life is irrelavent to the legalities of the question.

[classicman2]

Yeah, Oklahoma is very familiar with carpetbaggers. We had a governor - Keating was his name - who hadn't lived in Oklahoma for 20 years - he lived in Washington, D.C. He 'returned' to OK to run for governor and succeeded - twice. The day he left office, he moved back to Washinton, D. C.

Of course he was a Repub - we know a Democrat wouldn't do such a thing. ;)

[JasonF]

I'm still not sure what the point of this digression is. Hillary was a carpetbagger. Cheney was arguably a carpetbagger. Keating was a carpetbagger. Alan Keyes was a carpetbagger. And Condoleeza Rice could be a carpetbagger if she wants to be. She could buy a house in Idaho and run from there if she wants. But under the Constitution, she has to establish residency there first, just as Clinton, Cheney, Keating, and Keyes did.

[Red Dog]

I'm still not sure what the point of this digression is. Hillary was a carpetbagger. Cheney was arguably a carpetbagger. Keating was a carpetbagger. Alan Keyes was a carpetbagger. And Condoleeza Rice could be a carpetbagger if she wants to be. She could buy a house in Idaho and run from there if she wants. But under the Constitution, she has to establish residency there first, just as Clinton, Cheney, Keating, and Keyes did.


I think the point is that some carpetbagging appears more sketchy than others. Cheney had ties to Wyoming which makes his carpetbagging appear less of a transgression than Hillary's. No difference in legal terms though.

[kvrdave]

1. Mrs. Clinton

2. Any Democrat.


Both choices would be appropriate.

You are correct, sir.

[SFranke]

Both the NAACP and NOW regard the folks they claim to represent as mindless children, so whichever candidate does a better job of reinforcing that view will get the nod.

[MartinBlank]

To my suprise, apparently, The Rev. Al Sharpston speaks as if he would support Rice. He was actually supporting her during her confirmation hearings.