...well, maybe not everyone is going with this, and I'm sure it's happened in other Mid East countries, but it's still kinda cool when you think about it.
From a Hated News Source. :p (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151445,00.html) There are some cool pics of the female cadets there.
BAGHDAD, Iraq — Rabab Adood never had much experience with guns before she entered the Baghdad Police Academy. But now she's at the top of her class … and she's on a mission.
<b>Adoos and her sister, Intsar, are two of 39 women who are now enrolled out of the academy, along with about 2,500 men. Women weren't allowed to be police officers under former dictator Saddam Hussein but very few say they would have wanted to.</b>
"The word 'law' didn't exist prior to the war," said Intsar Adood. "The police officers were to follow the word of Saddam, which is not the law."
<b>But many male cadets say they want to return to the old days, when women weren't allowed on the force. One student even said he'll quit if he's assigned to work with a woman; he thinks women should remain housewives, which many of the female cadets had done. They had to ask their husbands for permission to join the academy.</b>
"My husband did not object to me coming to the academy to be a police officer and I have three kids but still my family did not say 'no,'" said cadet Iklas Oghman.
<b>Some training gets a little getting used to, particularly part of the course on defense techniques; it's hard for Iraqi women to get used to being aggressive.</b> And as far as these women have come, they still aren't allowed to patrol on the street next to the men. When they graduate, they'll be in office jobs or working security checkpoints inside buildings.
But many of these women say that will change one day — and when it does, they'll be ready.
B.A.
03-28-05, 10:08 AM
Do any of them look like Det. Rita Ortiz?
Giantrobo
03-28-05, 11:11 AM
Do any of them look like Det. Rita Ortiz?
Click the Link to see you lazy ass. :p
natevines
03-28-05, 11:15 AM
"he thinks women should remain housewives"
I'd have to agree with that one :)
Ranger
03-28-05, 12:47 PM
Probably a strategy to improve the body-searching tactic, since obviously women aren't going to be comfortable being searched by men. There was a report a while back that said that female us soldiers were regularly used to body-search iraqi women.
sfsdfd
03-28-05, 12:51 PM
And, for balance:
<i>(apparently unwanted opinion piece, written an actual Iraqi woman, deleted)</i>
- David Stein
Giantrobo
03-28-05, 01:41 PM
Thanks Dave. Once again you've saved us from ourselves..... :rolleyes:
No one said the article or what's happening in Iraq was perfect or without "angles".
bhk
03-28-05, 05:25 PM
And soon we will see representatives from NAG praising Bush for freeing women.
Thanks Dave. Once again you've saved us from ourselves.....
:lol:
Remember, he's the one who thought that the democratic changes that were occuring in Lebanon was only a coincidence and had nothing to do with the vote in Iraq. This was after even the NYTimes had to eat crow and admit that the democratic changes in the Mid-East were related to the invasion of Iraq.
And no, this isn't a pic I grabbed from the 3rd Star Wars movie.
sfsdfd
03-28-05, 08:25 PM
Thanks Dave. Once again you've saved us from ourselves..... :rolleyes:
Not sure why you're so annoyed, and I'm surprised by your reaction. Isn't this a place for balanced discussion? Not of the "fair and" kind, but really mutual?
I must have mistaken this for a thread discussing the future of women in Iraq. I'll let you have your echo chamber. Seeya.
- David Stein
Giantrobo
03-29-05, 09:48 AM
Not sure why you're so annoyed, and I'm surprised by your reaction. Isn't this a place for balanced discussion? Not of the "fair and" kind, but really mutual?
I must have mistaken this for a thread discussing the future of women in Iraq. I'll let you have your echo chamber. Seeya.
- David Stein
My post was trying to show some POSITIVE going on in Iraq. I even commented on how it was a very small positive for the women but still a positive. I guess this was my way of "Balancing" the other wiae constant NEGATIVE news we get from there. Sadly Hardly anyone who posted even took the article seriously or even thought it good.
As far as your post, I wasn't annoyed at all. Don't get me wrong. I just wanted you to know that inspite of what you may think of those of us who may be on the other side of your political slant we still "Get it" too. You're not the only one Dave. We realize all is not perfect and sweet in this world and that there's always another side or story to go with the topics in this forum.
BTW, I don't mind your "balancing" at all. In fact, I'm quite use to it and I encourage it. I would NEVER want to censor or block your opinion or thoughts out of anything just because we may or may not see "eye to eye" on certain issues.
<b>Please repost the article... deleting it was not anyone's intention.</b>
classicman2
03-29-05, 01:03 PM
Bush Says He Expects New Iraqi Government Soon
Reuters
By Steve Holland
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush predicted on Tuesday Iraq's parliament will choose a new government soon, despite chaos that erupted between Iraqi lawmakers trying to reach agreement in Baghdad in only their second meeting.
In a speech in the White House Rose Garden, Bush spoke optimistically about the future of Iraq and said it would serve as an example of freedom in "a long-troubled part of the world."
"The trend is clear, freedom is on the march," Bush said.
Bush has been touting signs of an "Arabian Spring" of advancing democracy in the Middle East early in his second term, citing elections in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Palestinian territories, peaceful demonstrations against Syria in Lebanon and what he called steps toward democratic reform in Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
But the linchpin of the movement is in Iraq, where U.S. and Iraqi forces continue to fight a deadly insurgency and lawmakers are struggling to form a government that will clear the way for writing a constitution by October and holding new elections by year's end.
Two months after more than 8 million Iraqis braved insurgent threats to vote in the Jan. 30 polls, many Iraqis are increasingly angry that no agreement has been reached on forming a government.
The Iraqi parliament held only its second meeting on Tuesday and journalists were thrown out after lawmakers berated leaders for failing to agree.
"We expect a new government will be chosen soon and that the assembly will vote to confirm it," Bush said. "We look forward to working with the government that emerges from this process."
Amid concerns by minority Sunni Arabs that they will be left out of the process, Bush said he was confident the new government "will be inclusive, will respect human rights and will uphold fundamental freedoms for all Iraqis."
Before speaking, Bush met with a number of Iraqi-Americans who voted in the United States in the Jan. 30 elections and were concerned about the delay.
"We don't have government to take care of the issues of security, services and reconstruction in Iraq," said Ali Al-Attar, president of the Arab American Medical Association in nearby Falls Church, Virginia.
He said they also told Bush of alleged corruption in the government and the lack of cooperation between ministries.
"Each minister is working as though he is king," he said.
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