Michigan State beats Louisville
1: pick set name (96)
2: Nameless Wonders (92)
3: Evenflow's Picks (91)
4: dick's picks (87)
5: davidlynchfan (86)
In Summary:
Louisville makes finals: pick set name
Illinois makes finals and wins: dick's picks
Illinois makes finals and loses: Nameless Wonders
B.A.
03-28-05, 08:41 AM
If anyone still hasn't found a hotel room for the Final4, I will rent you a room at my house (or my parents' house) for the price of one ticket. In addition to to the room and board, you will not have to worry about purchasing food or drink for the duration of your stay in the St. Louis Metro area.
;)
Red Dog
03-28-05, 09:56 AM
Sheesh. I start all the weekly college hoops threads for the season and someone has to swoop in and start the final one. That's gratitude. ;)
BTW, you should have said March 29 - April 4 since there is another college hoops tournament going on Tuesday and Thursday that 1 or 2 of us will be watching.
NIT SCHEDULE:
SEMIFINALS (at Madison Square Garden - New York)
Tuesday, March 29
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Saint Joseph's (23-11) vs Memphis (22-15), 7:00 p.m. ESPN2
South Carolina (18-13) vs Maryland (19-12), 9:30 p.m. ESPN2
FINALS (at Madison Square Garden - New York)
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Thursday, March 31 7:00 p.m. ESPN (hd)
Tommy_Harn
03-28-05, 11:51 AM
If anyone still hasn't found a hotel room for the Final4, I will rent you a room at my house (or my parents' house) for the price of one ticket. In addition to to the room and board, you will not have to worry about purchasing food or drink for the duration of your stay in the St. Louis Metro area.
;)
I'm in. As long as:
1. I can bring my dog
2. You don't stick me in a bedroom with a bunch of Duke crap on the walls :)
Meatpants
03-28-05, 12:13 PM
I didn't even bother posting last week's thread, still trying to come down after Saturday's high.
1. I can bring my dog
2. You don't stick me in a bedroom with a bunch of Duke crap on the walls :)You have a spare ticket? :eek:
I have a dog, and if they don't get along she can be put in her dog-pen in the backyard. But your dog has to stay off my freakin' couch.
I only have one Duke pennant hanging on one wall of my home office. That's it - I'm not 13 anymore and they haven't won any back-to-back championships in a while.
Come to think of it - I don't know anyone w/ tickets to the games this weekend. My soon-to-be-former boss is a U of I alum and he probably has tickets, but I don't give two shits about him really so he doesn't count.
moorehed
03-28-05, 02:28 PM
sonfof!!! if I had entered the DVDTalk league with my current bracket, i would be in 1st place by 9 points (93) with both my finals teams left.
moorehed
03-28-05, 02:40 PM
wow i didn't know i was actually doing so well. i looked at the top 50 ranking and it looks like i am in the top 25! nice. however, for some reason yahoo shows my rank as 108,043. any idea why?
Tommy_Harn
03-30-05, 10:18 AM
I'm surprised that Carolina and Roy Williams seem to be getting bashed quite a bit this week in the media. Everybody seems to be getting their digs in. Many are predicting an all Big Ten final.
brizz
03-30-05, 10:29 AM
I too have been surprised at how many are giving MSU the edge in this game. I harbor no illusions about this match-up, and quite honestly expect UNC to win fairly easily should they play as well as they are capable. MSU's only real chance is foul trouble and an off night from either May or Felton. But who knows....that's why they play the games. Personally, after all the chest thumping by Big Ten fans, I expect it to be a L'Ville - UNC final.
moorehed
03-30-05, 10:30 AM
yeah i have been surprized too. it seems everyone is picking MSU to beat them... and i'm in UNC country! go spartans.
Red Dog
03-30-05, 12:19 PM
Bettors certainly like MSU getting the pts - they have 57% of the action right now.
The even more amazing stat is that people love (74%) the Over (146-147) in the L'Ville game.
Calculon
03-30-05, 01:49 PM
Well the Spartans did just beat two top-ten teams in three days....
Tommy_Harn
03-30-05, 02:23 PM
I have no problem with MSU being favored. That makes sense. What doesn't make sense are the comments I've been hearing. "They're too lazy", "They don't want it enough", "Roy can't win the big game", "Carolina players are dumb between the ears", etc. Pretty brutal stuff. I'm not sure where all the hatred is coming from.
Red Dog
03-30-05, 02:38 PM
BTW, who exactly is giving MSU the edge? The ESPN 'experts?' The same ones who thought Wake would go deep into the tourney?
For the record, the line is UNC -5.
Red Dog
03-30-05, 02:46 PM
I'm not sure where all the hatred is coming from.
The hate comes because they are UNC, one of the most successful college basketball programs of all time. I certainly hate them. Not as much as I hate the Dookies though.
Red Dog
03-31-05, 02:15 PM
So I'm watching PTI yesterday and the topic of Matt Doherty and college vacancies is discussed. Can anyone explain to me why UVA would not be interested in this guy? :hscratch:
Tommy_Harn
03-31-05, 02:58 PM
So I'm watching PTI yesterday and the topic of Matt Doherty and college vacancies is discussed. Can anyone explain to me why UVA would not be interested in this guy? :hscratch:
I think Doherty is going to have to get back into coaching at the mid-major level, not with a team from a power conference. Most larger programs probably are nervous about handing the keys over to a guy who had problems getting through to his players at Carolina. I also wonder if his effectiveness as a recruiter might take a hit after the UNC mess.
MrX
03-31-05, 03:03 PM
Article in one of the papers today that he's trying to replace Bruce Pearl at UW-Milwaukee.
Tulsa turned him down earlier in the year and Siena said they're not interested. I think the rep he has gotten from the UNC players will hurt him.
Red Dog
03-31-05, 03:03 PM
I think Doherty is going to have to get back into coaching at the mid-major level, not with a team from a power conference. Most larger programs probably are nervous about handing the keys over to a guy who had problems getting through to his players at Carolina. I also wonder if his effectiveness as a recruiter might take a hit after the UNC mess.
That is how it looks, but I just don't understand it. For one thing, UVA is effectively the equivalent of mid-major right now. Why not get a guy familiar with the conference and style of play?
As for Doherty, the guy can obviously recruit - if UNC wins it all, a major part of the reason is Doherty's recruiting. The guy had a good run at Notre Dame as well. While he struggled his last year at UNC, he has certainly proven that he deserves to coach in big time conferences.
Red Dog
03-31-05, 03:05 PM
I think the rep he has gotten from the UNC players will hurt him.
And that's a damn shame. It took Roy more than one season to get through to them.
Tommy_Harn
03-31-05, 03:34 PM
Maybe American Express should help him out by running a commercial plugging the merits of Doherty as a coach, and more importantly, a teacher. That would get him a job.
Red Dog
03-31-05, 03:40 PM
Maybe American Express should help him out by running a commercial plugging the merits of Doherty as a coach, and more importantly, a teacher. That would get him a job.
Don't remind me about this. I don't even want to think about how many times we are going to be subjected to Ratface this Saturday and the Dookies aren't even in the damn thing.
Dr_Evil
03-31-05, 09:08 PM
Heck of a finish to the NIT championship. South Caroilna wins 60-57 with a three at the buzzer.
tofu
04-01-05, 02:35 AM
Heck of a finish to the NIT championship. South Caroilna wins 60-57 with a three at the buzzer.
I was rooting for St. Joe's. But that was a great finish.
Josh H
04-01-05, 11:06 AM
Hallelujah! Andy Katz is reporting that John Gilchrist is expected to enter the NBA draft.
MrX
04-02-05, 02:22 AM
Just heard if the Pope dies tomorrow around the time of the game the games may be moved to Spike TV.
tofu
04-02-05, 10:14 AM
Hmmm . . I wonder if that would mean that the internet broadcast wouldn't be blacked out anymore.
Quake1028
04-02-05, 11:03 AM
Illinois 87
Louisville 80
UNC 79
MSU 65
brizz
04-02-05, 03:28 PM
Just heard if the Pope dies tomorrow around the time of the game the games may be moved to Spike TV.
is that a belated April Fool's Joke?
MrX
04-02-05, 03:36 PM
nope
It was if he dies right before or during the games. I don't know what they will do now.
LaxBandit
04-02-05, 04:29 PM
The pope died around 2:58 pm ET. (may have been before..) CBS cut into their coverage at 3:00 pm ET with the news and went to 3:30 pm ET. They then showed "Road To The Final Four-Outside The Games" (orginially scheduled for 3:00 pm ET to 3:30 pm ET) until 4:00 pm ET where they then had a another update along with President Bush talking about the popes passing. CBS then went to their Final Four Pre-Game show sometime around 4:10 pm ET. I would assume there will be a couple of updates later on about the popes passing but none that should interrupt the games.
Go Louisville!
Go North Carolina!
LB...
twikoff
04-02-05, 05:50 PM
Start the damn games!
The Cow
04-02-05, 05:53 PM
C'mon Big Ten! :up:
Daryl
04-02-05, 06:10 PM
damn - had L'ville 1st to make a 3. not a good start to my prop bets!!
Canadian Bacon
04-02-05, 06:16 PM
wow made it to the 1st TV timeout and not a single mention of Duke from Packer??!! :jawdrop:
brizz
04-02-05, 06:21 PM
geez...two straight from the rim that L'ville misses. Miles could be on pace for a huge game...if he can make his dunks ;)
brizz
04-02-05, 06:23 PM
ticky tack fouls on ILL adding up.....
Daryl
04-02-05, 06:24 PM
Interesting, not that it hasn't been warranted, but I've never seen all the calls go against one team like this. Usually you see some iffy calls go the other way just to sort of even it out.
Daryl
04-02-05, 06:28 PM
Ahh, Packer has found his theme for this game: guard rebounding for the Cards. Now to pound it home another 75 times!!
Dr_Evil
04-02-05, 06:56 PM
A pretty good first half. Not very exciting, but at least it is close.
Patman
04-02-05, 07:09 PM
Is it my imagination or has Leslie Visser gotten a lot of plastic surgery done to her face? Her eyes can barely stay open with her face pulled so tightly now.
Dr_Evil
04-02-05, 07:11 PM
That woman from chevrolet was the one who I thought looked weird. Her eyes barely opened, they were like slits. Freaky.
Daryl
04-02-05, 07:15 PM
I remember 20 years ago when Visser was thought of as kind of "hot"
Daryl
04-02-05, 07:22 PM
I've been watching bball a long time and I don't think I've ever seen someone follow-up their own three point shot with a tip dunk.
Dr_Evil
04-02-05, 07:24 PM
It seems for this half Packer is going to continue to talk about Powell taking off when his feet hit the floor. Man, he is even more annoying than usual tonight.
brizz
04-02-05, 07:47 PM
This is pretty much over. Illinois taking control.
If anything, I guess this bodes a little well from MSU. When's the last time the top 2 seeds met in the final? I know the highest scoring team hasn't won in over 40 years....which doesn't bode well for UNC.
Starting to get nervous here....time for a beer, or 7.
brizz
04-02-05, 07:49 PM
I guess Duke - UConn in 1999 was the last time 2 1s made it....were they the top 1s though?
Daryl
04-02-05, 07:59 PM
I guess Duke - UConn in 1999 was the last time 2 1s made it....were they the top 1s though?
I went and checked bracketville (http://bracketville.tripod.com). My guess, given that UConn was shipped out West, was that they weren't considered one of the top 2 #1's
the aftermath
04-02-05, 08:07 PM
First time ever for Illinois going to the Championship game :eek: I never knew. Wow. Congrats.
Daryl
04-02-05, 08:07 PM
Nice win by Illinois - they made the best adjustments at the half, and seemed to be less startled playing on the big stage.
brizz
04-02-05, 08:11 PM
fitting for L'Ville to miss a lay-up at the end. I think they missed no less than 6 dunks or lay-ups in that game. Great win for the Illini :up:
brizz
04-02-05, 08:12 PM
I went and checked bracketville (http://bracketville.tripod.com). My guess, given that UConn was shipped out West, was that they weren't considered one of the top 2 #1's
Yeah, I remember Duke being heavily favored in that one, and then losing :D I took particular joy in that since Duke had knocked out State in the final four.
Daryl
04-02-05, 08:13 PM
prop bets weren't so good, but Illinois -3 was a winnah.
Like State +5 and State ML in the 2nd game. They've gotten past the mental hurdles that were holding them back at times this year. They've always been a top 5 team in terms of talent, and I expect them to further prove that neither of their last two wins were really upsets.
Daryl
04-02-05, 08:16 PM
Yeah, I remember Duke being heavily favored in that one, and then losing :D I took particular joy in that since Duke had knocked out State in the final four.
brizz, you'll enjoy this one: I remember prior to that game, ESPN had all these coaches on their pre-game show giving their predictions. EVERY single coach picked Duke to win, except one: then-Michigan "coach" Brian Ellerbe. And basically Fowler, Vitale, and Digger laughed right in his face when he said it.
At least he got one thing right during his coaching tenure.
The Cow
04-02-05, 08:29 PM
1 down, 1 to go. :up: Although I'm not near as confident that MSU can take NC; more hoping in this one.
IdgIe49
04-02-05, 08:41 PM
Go Baylor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :d
Daryl
04-02-05, 08:41 PM
Here in S.E. Michigan, I've never seen a commercial for Oakland University. Now suddenly they have an ad during the Final Four featuring footage of them playing UNC during the tourney :lol:
MrX
04-02-05, 08:43 PM
I was was worried there after the first half. Illinois looked like they were playing at half speed most of the game and Louisville's length really bothered them. Good to see Roger step-up for the first time that I can remeber in a long time.
I have class Monday night until 7 so odds are good I'll get a ticket on the ride home:)
Go MSU!
brizz
04-02-05, 08:48 PM
Man...i haven't been this keyed up for a game since 2000 (the Iowa State game).....good thing I bought a 12 pack :)
brizz
04-02-05, 08:49 PM
brizz, you'll enjoy this one: I remember prior to that game, ESPN had all these coaches on their pre-game show giving their predictions. EVERY single coach picked Duke to win, except one: then-Michigan "coach" Brian Ellerbe. And basically Fowler, Vitale, and Digger laughed right in his face when he said it.
At least he got one thing right during his coaching tenure.
:lol: I forgot all about Ellerbe. what happened to that guy?
Canadian Bacon
04-02-05, 08:50 PM
Go Baylor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :d
:hscratch:
The Cow
04-02-05, 09:01 PM
:hscratch:
(Women's final four, tomorrow)
Daryl
04-02-05, 09:03 PM
:lol: I forgot all about Ellerbe. what happened to that guy?
He's harder to track down than Hoffa's body. Supposedly he still lives in Ann Arbor, I've also heard he lives across the river in Windsor, Ontario. :lol:
My favorite "Loserbe" story came right before he got fired. It was obvious he was about to get the axe, and there were (accurate as it turns out) rumors that Michigan and Pitino had mutual interest in each other. On Mother's Day that year, we went to Macaroni Grill to eat in Ann Arbor and were waiting for a table. They had a TV on showing an NBA game, and Pitino was doing studio analysis (having quit the Celtics earlier that year). I said to my brother, rather loudly, "hey, there's Michigan next coach. Please come save us, Rick!". Literally 5-10 seconds later, Ellerbe walks into the restaurant, and the group of us guys standing there watching TV all broke out laughing.
MrX
04-02-05, 09:20 PM
Sean May looks like he's about to have a heart attack
brizz
04-02-05, 09:23 PM
HUGE 3 pointer for Hill there. Maybe he finally gets out that slump tonight.
Daryl
04-02-05, 09:54 PM
the disparity in coaching should keep MSU ahead in this one
MrX
04-02-05, 09:56 PM
I was hoping Kellogg was going to come over the top with a right hook to Seth Davis right there.
Davis is whining becasue UNC is losing
brizz
04-02-05, 09:57 PM
6 beers down...6 to go. will i be drowing my sorrows or celebrating?
Have to be pleased with thier play so far. The most impressive thing is that they are quite obviously not intimidated by UNC. I love Coach Izzo.
brizz
04-02-05, 09:58 PM
Hey daryl, did you see Drew Sharp's column today? Somehow, even in admitting what a tool he was in writing them off, he managed to get a couple of jabs in.
Daryl
04-02-05, 10:10 PM
Hey daryl, did you see Drew Sharp's column today? Somehow, even in admitting what a tool he was in writing them off, he managed to get a couple of jabs in.
no, I've been doing my best to keep up my Drew Sharp boycott. What you say he wrote doesn't surprise me in the least. Every paycheck he collects is robbery, plain and simple
Daryl
04-02-05, 10:20 PM
shit. UNC is hotter than July. similar to Illinois-MSU earlier this year
MrX
04-02-05, 10:31 PM
MSU has gone ice cold.
The Cow
04-02-05, 10:38 PM
MSU needs a big run in the next coupla minutes or this one is done (if it isn't already, MSU looks tired)
Daryl
04-02-05, 10:38 PM
you could read Izzo's lips talking to Neitzel: don't do that, OK?
the aftermath
04-02-05, 10:53 PM
Goodbye Spartans. It was a nice run.
the aftermath
04-02-05, 11:01 PM
UNC-Illinois. Couldn't have been scripted any better.
Patman
04-02-05, 11:02 PM
Both of the semi-final games ended up being the same: tightly contested in the first half, but the better team ran away with it in the second. Illinois vs. UNC Monday night to settle matters for this season.
Daryl
04-02-05, 11:04 PM
Ack, ended on a bad betting note with the game getting away from MSU in the 2nd half. UNC showed some character I thought their team lacked.
This year might set the record for "most tourney pool entries with correct final 2 teams"
MrX
04-02-05, 11:09 PM
Early line is UNC -3
the aftermath
04-02-05, 11:18 PM
I think UNC's a better team, but right now Illinois just looks like a team of destiny.
If I had to bet I'd go with UNC, but in my mind I can see Dee Brown cutting down the nets.
brizz
04-03-05, 12:17 AM
:up: to UNC
that second half was about what i expected. Nice run by the spartans though....should be a great final game.
Go Illini!
Quake1028
04-03-05, 01:28 AM
Did anyone tell BA he owes us his house?
MrX
04-03-05, 03:09 AM
According to sportscenter this is the first time #1 will play #2 in 30 years.
The Cow
04-03-05, 03:22 AM
According to sportscenter this is the first time #1 will play #2 in 30 years.
I was surprised by that too.
And the #2 is favored with the courtside fanbase being mostly #1. Weird.
tofu
04-03-05, 08:44 AM
This is going to be a great game. If UNC plays like they did in the 2nd half, I think the game is theirs no matter what Illinois does.
Red Dog
04-03-05, 11:58 AM
Probably one of the most uneventful F4 Saturdays I can ever recall. I guess it was simply a matter of the cream rising to the top. At least I had Ill/Louis Under 145.5 and UNC -5. Easy money.
MrX
04-03-05, 01:18 PM
Good to see a loss isn't enough to stop Michigan St students from rioting:lol:
EAST LANSING, Mich. -- Police in riot gear used tear gas to disperse a crowd of rowdy Michigan State fans and made several arrests after the Spartans' loss in the Final Four on Saturday night.
Soon after Michigan State lost 87-71 to North Carolina, a crowd of between 500 and 1,000 people gathered in downtown streets and outside apartment complexes a few blocks away, police Lt. Kevin Daley said.
Daley said that as of 1 a.m. Sunday, between 12 and 24 people had been arrested on disorderly conduct charges.
Police tried to break up the crowd before using the tear gas. There had been no violence at that point, but Daley said tear gas is an effective way to scatter a crowd before "it takes on a life of its own."
"The point is to ensure the safety of the downtown area to prevent injury and to prevent property damage," Daley said.
A burning couch was seen near downtown, and Daley said several trash containers had been set afire. No reports of serious injuries had been received as of 1 a.m. Sunday, he said.
In 1999, after Michigan State lost to Duke in the semifinals, more than 10,000 people ran through downtown East Lansing, overturning cars, setting fires and smashing storefronts. Police responded with tear gas and arrested 132 people, including 71 Michigan State students.
Eighteen people were arrested following a disturbance during the 2003 NCAA men's tournament.
B.A.
04-03-05, 02:03 PM
Did anyone tell BA he owes us his house?How so? :hscratch:
Great second-half by the Reverend yesterday. :beer: Even if half of his shots were ugly as sin.
Horrible second-half by the Spartans. :down:
And what a great weekend for my internet connection to go down (again).
Josh H
04-03-05, 02:22 PM
Well, got the title game I (and a billion others) had in my money pool. I have UNC winning.
I was 0.5 points behind the leader going in but I don't know his bracket. At any rate the top 3 spots get some cash so I should at least make a few bucks.
brizz
04-03-05, 02:52 PM
Good to see a loss isn't enough to stop Michigan St students from rioting:lol:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaatourney05/news/story?id=2028754
meh....i talked to some friends who said it was nothing. more of a pre-emptive action by the cops than anything - who are consideraby gunshy due to idiocy of past years. Stupid is as stupid does.
Quake1028
04-04-05, 12:55 AM
How so? :hscratch:
My fault:
so is there a way to bet that the final won't be UNC and ILL? I'd bet my lifesavings on that.....if i had any.
Pay up :p.
B.A.
04-04-05, 08:15 AM
I was going to say... :lol:
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:01 AM
Early line is UNC -3
Down to -2. Action has been on Illinois. Hmmmmmm.
Tommy_Harn
04-04-05, 01:15 PM
Less than 9 hours to go before tip-off. Its been pretty tough to get anything done at work today.
Not only are the Heels going for the National Title tonight, but they'll be playing for the Big Ten Crown as well. They blew out Iowa (and that dick Steve Alford) in the Maui Invitational, outlasted Indiana in the ACC/Big10 Challenge and took out Wisconsin and Michigan State in the tournament. If Minnesota would have beaten Iowa St. in the first round of the tourney, Carolina would have played them also.
Illinois play so hard and so well together. If I weren't a UNC fan, I'd probably be rooting for Illinois. I really think Carolina needs to play a near flawless game, especially on the defensive end. No lapses like the first half vs. MSU.
brizz
04-04-05, 01:25 PM
My fault:
Pay up :p.
:lol: thanks for finding that and saving me the trouble. That, in a nutshell, is why i'm not a betting man :D
Seriously though...did anyone really think it would be UNC-IL?
B.A.
04-04-05, 02:15 PM
Taft states plan for draft; Pitt's Krauser likely next
ESPN.com news services
Pittsburgh sophomore forward Chris Taft announced Monday on ESPN2's Cold Pizza he would declare for and stay in the NBA draft.
Taft is declaring for the NBA draft after his sophomore season at Pitt.
Pittsburgh coach Jamie Dixon told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that he also expected junior point guard Carl Krauser to declare for the draft.
Taft averaged 13.3 points a game and 7.5 rebounds, good for third in scoring and second in rebounding on the team.
Krauser led the Panthers with 16 points and 5.9 assists. Dixon said he doesn't expect Krauser to sign with an agent. Dixon said he would expect Krauser to keep his options open to return to school, but said Krauser told him he wanted to go to the Chicago pre-draft camp in June.
Taft, at 6-feet-10, 260 lbs., is likely to be among the lottery picks in the draft, according to ESPN Insider Chad Ford.
He has the rare combination of size, athleticism, strength and power that had NBA scouts calling him a top-three pick before the season began.
While his lackluster performance during the regular season raised serious questions about his work ethic and attitude, his performance in the first round of the NCAA Tournament should have helped to resurrect his draft stock.
If he can follow up his solid tournament performance with some great individual workouts, Taft's stock will rise. He's not the stellar prospect he was at the beginning of the season, but in the right system, with the right motivation, Taft still has the most potential of any big guy on the board.
Most scouts still have Taft rated between the Nos. 5 and 10 picks.
ESPN.com senior writer Andy Katz and ESPN Insider Chad Ford contributed to this report.
tofu
04-04-05, 03:21 PM
Sucks for Pitt although it seemed like they were mailing it in at the end of the season.
Dubya
04-04-05, 03:31 PM
Less than 9 hours to go before tip-off. Its been pretty tough to get anything done at work today.
Same here, after work I'm on my way to Chapel Hill to watch the game. Franklin Street is the place to be tonight! :D
Quake1028
04-04-05, 05:48 PM
:lol: thanks for finding that and saving me the trouble. That, in a nutshell, is why i'm not a betting man :D
Seriously though...did anyone really think it would be UNC-IL?
Everyone but you :p.
IdgIe49
04-04-05, 06:20 PM
I just ordered my Illini Loyalty bracelet. *sniff*
GO ILLINI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Josh H
04-04-05, 06:25 PM
Sucks for Pitt although it seemed like they were mailing it in at the end of the season.
Good for WVU, they have a good shot at finishing 3rd in the conference now behind UCONN and NOVA.
Josh H
04-04-05, 07:00 PM
WVU locked up their b-ball coach, which is good as I'm sure he'd have gotten a lot of interest from other schools after the post season run.
WVU basketball coach John Beilein is headed to the Final Four. He came oh so close to being on the bench for Saturday’s semifinal game, but instead, after the Mountaineers fell to Louisville in overtime in the Elite Eight last weekend, Beilein will be in the stands instead.
John, as well as his son Patrick, will take in the action in St. Louis this weekend, and the Mountaineer new coach will do so with a new contract extension in hand. After leading WVU to the Elite Eight, Beilein was rewarded with a contract extension that runs through the 2011-12 season. His base pay rises to $700,000, and there are also incentive bonus for various things like conference titles, team GPA and Final Four appearances. In addition, there is a $3.5 million buyout for both sides, so Beilein is very secure in his position, and WVU is very secure that its coach will be staying around.
MovieMaster11
04-04-05, 07:11 PM
On my Bracket I had ILL. vs UNC. With ILL. winning 96-86.
B.A.
04-04-05, 08:32 PM
Sweet - I actually have internet access at home tonight! My Charter service has sucked ass over the last two weeks and I was about ready to cancel it.
I-L-L
Red Dog
04-04-05, 09:08 PM
Ah I remember Bonnie Bernstein's last interview with Roy Williams at a NCAA Final. ;)
Daryl
04-04-05, 09:23 PM
And Carolina starts out....mantoman!
brizz
04-04-05, 09:25 PM
I suspect Mr. May is going to have a huge game. He should eat ILL up in the middle.
I do want ILL to win fwiw.
B.A.
04-04-05, 09:32 PM
Please just let this game be close.
brizz
04-04-05, 09:38 PM
stupid shot by felton. hey..i'll run up the court, step on the three point line and chuck it up!
B.A.
04-04-05, 09:40 PM
There has been a few foolish shots already - mostly by the Illini.
twikoff
04-04-05, 09:42 PM
ugly ugly ugly
brizz
04-04-05, 09:45 PM
u-g-l-y you ain't got no alibi! YOU UGLY!!!!!!
B.A.
04-04-05, 09:51 PM
Quit taking stupid shots!!!
B.A.
04-04-05, 09:52 PM
They need to go right at Felton and draw the fouls (if possible). And adopt the hack-a-May strategy w/ their bench-warmers.
Red Dog
04-04-05, 09:56 PM
3 on 1 and you settle for a 3 pointer? :down:
Red Dog
04-04-05, 09:57 PM
Besides putbacks, will Illinois take a 2 point shot the rest of game? :lol:
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:03 PM
3 on 1 and you settle for a 3 pointer? :down:That was a little annoying.
They could have called a foul down there as they hacked at Powell.
The inside game is killing Illinois. It's bad enough that UNC will most likely win this game if this keeps up, but what makes it so much worse is that it is a Roy Williams coached team.
Daryl
04-04-05, 10:06 PM
C'mon 1st half under. need some more 3 point bricks.
Daryl
04-04-05, 10:08 PM
Onions!
brizz
04-04-05, 10:08 PM
ouch.
Quake1028
04-04-05, 10:08 PM
Carolina is fucking on FIRE.
twikoff
04-04-05, 10:09 PM
ugly ugly ugly
...
brizz
04-04-05, 10:09 PM
:lol: Nice play IL.
twikoff
04-04-05, 10:09 PM
C'mon 1st half under. need some more 3 point bricks.
dribbling out the clock and not bothering to take a shot has got to help
brizz
04-04-05, 10:10 PM
Carolina is fucking on FIRE.
They are obviously the most talented team in the country. It just depends on whether they feel like playing like it. Seems like tonight they do.
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:10 PM
What a disastrous last 90 seconds for Illinois. Had a chance to cut it to 4 or 5 and instead are down 13.
I should have gone against the bettors like I have most of the tourney. -ohbfrank-
Quake1028
04-04-05, 10:11 PM
They are obviously the most talented team in the country. It just depends on whether they feel like playing like it. Seems like tonight they do.
If you cannot get motivated for this game, then what the hell will do it, ya know?
Can anyone explain to me again why Sean May was not National PotY?
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:11 PM
Illinois is playing like shit.
But these refs suck ass.
brizz
04-04-05, 10:11 PM
What a disastrous last 90 seconds for Illinois. Had a chance to cut it to 4 or 5 and instead are down 13.
I should have gone against the bettors like I have most of the tourney. -ohbfrank-
who are the bettors? your french bookies?
brizz
04-04-05, 10:11 PM
If you cannot get motivated for this game, then what the hell will do it, ya know?
Can anyone explain to me again why Sean May was not National PotY?
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:12 PM
Can anyone explain to me again why Sean May was not National PotY?
National?
Heck, just start with the ACC POTY head-scratcher.
Daryl
04-04-05, 10:13 PM
dribbling out the clock and not bothering to take a shot has got to help
:thumbsup:
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:13 PM
who are the bettors? your french bookies?
The public sentiment. The line moved from -3 to -2 since late Sat night. That means more people (money on) bet Illinois than UNC.
Quake1028
04-04-05, 10:14 PM
National?
Heck, just start with the ACC POTY head-scratcher.
Well, that's kinda assumed if you win National (not always, I know).
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:15 PM
Well, that's kinda assumed if you win National (not always, I know).
I don't have an opinion on National POTY because I don't believe I watched enough basketball outside of the ACC and BE to make an informed opinion, so that is why I simply limit my judgment to the ACC in this case.
Josh H
04-04-05, 10:19 PM
If UNC keeps this up I'll have gotten the champion right in my bracket 5 out of the last 6 years.
Only miss was Michigan St. in 2000. I had Iowa St. that year.
Daryl
04-04-05, 10:19 PM
The public sentiment. The line moved from -3 to -2 since late Sat night. That means more people (money on) bet Illinois than UNC.
I went in at 9:15 and do my usual buy the half point down to 1.5 (I can't tell you how many times that has made the difference for me. that and buying +1.5 up to +2). Anyway, I got no love because of late action on UNC moved it up to -2.5 right before I submitted. I did find it elsewhere still at -2, so not wanting to take another chance, I just took that
Patman
04-04-05, 10:20 PM
The refs have let Sean May literally run over people in this game.
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:23 PM
Bogut w/ the Naismith. -ohbfrank-
.
Quake1028
04-04-05, 10:24 PM
I don't have an opinion on National POTY because I don't believe I watched enough basketball outside of the ACC and BE to make an informed opinion, so that is why I simply limit my judgment to the ACC in this case.
:up:
Quake1028
04-04-05, 10:24 PM
Bogut w/ the Naismith. -ohbfrank-
.
:lol:
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:24 PM
The refs have let Sean May literally run over people in this game.They have let the Tar Heels get away w/ a lot more than that.
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 10:25 PM
Agree Patman.
He's had a few more travels than what has been called.
Illinois is beating themselves right now.
Illinois needs to loosen up -- they're too tight and the shots aren't falling for us.
Weber will give 'em a talking to-- and hopefully we'll come out of the half strong and use our inside game a little more.
We're still in this... I'm not giving up hope yet!!
GO ILLINI GO!!! GO ILLINI GO!!
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:25 PM
:lol:Seriously - look who he put his stats up against.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/players/playerpage/441751
They played a few good teams.
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:26 PM
Well, that's kinda assumed if you win National (not always, I know).
Oh I forgot - check 2002. ;)
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:26 PM
Seriously - look who he put his stats up against.
Damn straight. The poet got shafted. :lol:
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:29 PM
Damn straight. The poet got shafted. :lol:rotfl
Several poets were shafted - and he was one of them.
I see no problem with Bogut winning as he was better in every category but FT% and much more versatile, unless you were implying someone other than May.
Bogut will be the top pick in the draft.
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:34 PM
Horseshit - who paid off the refs? Roy's mother?
:mad:
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:35 PM
Horseshit - who paid off the refs? Roy's mother?
:mad:
Look on the bright side. They could be playing the Dookies +3. rotfl
I see no problem with Bogut winning as he was better in every category but FT% and much more versatile, unless you were implying someone other than May.
Bogut will be the top pick in the draft.
To be fair, May put up those numbers against the ACC, Bogut against much inferior competition. Also, May has a lot more talent on his team than does Bogut, so he won't get as many opportunities to score.
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:38 PM
Luther!!!! Will this team to victory!!!!!
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:39 PM
To be fair, May put up those numbers against the ACC, Bogut against much inferior competition. Also, May has a lot more talent on his team than does Bogut, so he won't get as many opportunities to score.Exactly.
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:40 PM
I'm not saying Bogut is deserving of POTY but when you say he put those numbers against inferior competition keep in that mind that he also had far less talent around him than May and other players. It simply isn't a matter of who you play, and frankly, I'd be surprised if anyone in this forum saw him play more than a few times prior to March.
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:40 PM
Look on the bright side. They could be playing the Dookies
That would be like the Cardinals/Twins in the Series - I'm happy either way.
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 10:41 PM
This is a hard game to watch. This is going to be a shooting match.
Let's get the 3's going IL. WE can do it.
brizz
04-04-05, 10:41 PM
boy....UNC is putting up SHIT all of a sudden. we got a game :up:
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 10:42 PM
Foul on Manuel. That's 4.
I don't want to see anyone get hurt--but I didn't mind seeing that eye poke by Brown on Noel. :) :) :)
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:43 PM
That would be like the Cardinals/Twins in the Series - I'm happy either way.
Yeah if one team has 6 umps on their side. ;)
brizz
04-04-05, 10:45 PM
Horseshit - who paid off the refs? Roy's mother?
:mad:
You lose the right to bitch after that foul call on May. Terrible call.
brizz
04-04-05, 10:46 PM
Geez. May is a beast.
Josh H
04-04-05, 10:46 PM
I'm not saying Bogut is deserving of POTY but when you say he put those numbers against inferior competition keep in that mind that he also had far less talent around him than May and other players.
Yep, and inferior competion isn't why he shot 36% from three and May didn't take a single one.
You can use that to balance out Bogut's advantage in scoring and boards, but not his versatility from the center position, which is what makes him the deserving choice IMO.
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 10:46 PM
May didn't push off--i agree--but Powell falling drew the call.
No complaints here. :)
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:49 PM
This half is just flying by. Wow.
I-L-L
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 10:49 PM
We're still in it . GO ILLINI!!! We can't slow down. Once we slow down we aren't in it.
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:50 PM
You lose the right to bitch after that foul call on May. Terrible call.
Bullshit - they have several more to make up. Then I'll stop bitching.
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:50 PM
Let B.A. bitch about refs. Each post literally drips with irony. rotfl
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:51 PM
I hardly ever bitch about the refs, but these guys are the suck.
Quake1028
04-04-05, 10:53 PM
We're still in it . GO ILLINI!!! We can't slow down. Once we slow down we aren't in it.
What years did you play on the team? ;)
twikoff
04-04-05, 10:53 PM
I hardly ever bitch about the refs, but these guys are the suck.
but the idea of a duke fan complaining about refs........
Red Dog
04-04-05, 10:54 PM
I hardly ever bitch about the refs, but these guys are the suck.
Is this the 2001 NCAA Final? ;)
B.A.
04-04-05, 10:56 PM
but the idea of a duke fan complaining about refs........No shit, Sherlock. I think I know where he was going w/ that.
;)
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 10:58 PM
What years did you play on the team? ;)
Hey this is MY team.. my alma mater. I graduated from IL in 2001.
I was born with orange and blue blood. I've been on the team since the womb. :)
brizz
04-04-05, 11:01 PM
I am more convinced than ever that Felton will be more than comfortable in the NBA. he has no fundamentals whatsoever and makes way too many rash schoolyard plays.
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:01 PM
Dee Brown's lack of rebounding (and his effort on the boards) is annoying my wife.
:lol:
Quake1028
04-04-05, 11:02 PM
but the idea of a duke fan complaining about refs........
Is that sorta like a Braves fan complaining about a strike call :hscratch:?
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:02 PM
I am more convinced than ever that Felton will be more than comfortable in the NBA. he has no fundamentals whatsoever and makes way too many rash schoolyard plays.And unlike years past, he isn't afraid to shoot the ball.
Red Dog
04-04-05, 11:03 PM
I am more convinced than ever that Felton will be more than comfortable in the NBA. he has no fundamentals whatsoever and makes way too many rash schoolyard plays.
:lol:
twikoff
04-04-05, 11:03 PM
Is that sorta like a Braves fan complaining about a strike call :hscratch:?
or a miami hurricane's fan complaining about a personal foul
brizz
04-04-05, 11:04 PM
Way to be "careful" Augustine :lol:
Daryl
04-04-05, 11:05 PM
a little nickel-dimer!
Quake1028
04-04-05, 11:05 PM
or a miami hurricane's fan complaining about a personal foul
Never. Just a pass interference call ;).
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:05 PM
Fuck them - May has been pushing people around all night. And they haven't called dick on him.
brizz
04-04-05, 11:07 PM
Fuck them - May has been pushing people around all night. And they haven't called dick on him.
Nah....May is just twice as strong as anyone else and uses his body. Augustine had his arms extended pushing the guy out of the lane.
Daryl
04-04-05, 11:07 PM
this has been a great 2nd half
Darq
04-04-05, 11:07 PM
This half is just flying by. Wow.
I-L-L
I-N-I !!!
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 11:10 PM
We're starting to make UNC feel the same way we made AZ feel.
Ingram's 4th isn't good.
Augustine needed to come out of the game--he didn't know how to draw the call from the refs. He's not dramatic enough.
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:12 PM
Fuck Carolina! Let's go Illini!!!!
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 11:13 PM
Double Ditto Ba!!!
the aftermath
04-04-05, 11:14 PM
Finally home from work, looks like I've missed a hell of a game so far.
Dabaomb
04-04-05, 11:14 PM
amazing comeback by Illinois.
But wtf is up with that ugly organge blazer that Bruce Weber is wearing? :lol:
the aftermath
04-04-05, 11:15 PM
Illinois - team of destiny. No doubt about it!
Quake1028
04-04-05, 11:15 PM
Tie game!
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 11:15 PM
Tied Baby!!! We Need More Luther Head!!!!!
:)
Go Illini!!
Hail To The Orange!!!
Once You Go Orange-- You Don"t Go Back!!!!
Red Dog
04-04-05, 11:16 PM
amazing comeback by Illinois.
But wtf is up with that ugly organge blazer that Bruce Weber is wearing? :lol:
Is this the first Illinois game you've watched this year? ;)
But wtf is up with that ugly organge blazer that Bruce Weber is wearing? :lol:
Is this the first Illini game you have ever seen?
:hscratch:
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:20 PM
I-l-l
Darq
04-04-05, 11:21 PM
fuck
the aftermath
04-04-05, 11:21 PM
Huge Steal!!!!! Huge miss!!!!
Quake1028
04-04-05, 11:21 PM
Yes!
Dabaomb
04-04-05, 11:22 PM
wow, what a steal!!!
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:22 PM
Not a good time to have your first turnover this half.
Mopower
04-04-05, 11:22 PM
Williams or Head will hit a 3 and then it will be OT.
the aftermath
04-04-05, 11:23 PM
Tarheels!
Dabaomb
04-04-05, 11:23 PM
Is this the first Illini game you have ever seen?
:hscratch:
Living in NYC, we don't see a ton of Big Ten games. Plus, I don't think that I've ever payed attention to it.
Game over.
Quake1028
04-04-05, 11:23 PM
Live by the 3....
Red Dog
04-04-05, 11:24 PM
Illinois sure got cold in a hurry.
brizz
04-04-05, 11:24 PM
Unfortunately, that's the problem with living by the three....you also die by it eventually.
welb25
04-04-05, 11:24 PM
cannot make open shots, wow. wide open ,too.
Darq
04-04-05, 11:24 PM
go cubs.. :(
Daryl
04-04-05, 11:24 PM
looks like Huckleberry Hound will finally win one
brizz
04-04-05, 11:25 PM
And yes...Weber's jacket is just plain awful. It's all his fault. ;)
Bloomiesgirl
04-04-05, 11:25 PM
There goes my good mood for the day. :(
Darq
04-04-05, 11:25 PM
What was that stat? 48-1 if we score over 70? Too bad we can't get point number 71..
the aftermath
04-04-05, 11:25 PM
Congrats to the Tarheels!!!!!!!1
Quake1028
04-04-05, 11:25 PM
U N C!
Nazgul
04-04-05, 11:25 PM
Boooo. I hate seeing that these punk ass Cackalackie players will win a title.
fumanstan
04-04-05, 11:26 PM
Not a big fan of college ball, but UNC :up:
Jericho
04-04-05, 11:26 PM
Just my opinion, but Illinois might have won if they had an offense other than to jack threes. Not that many of them were bad shots per se, but it is difficult to consistently make threes, even open threes. Just a few drives would have helped. Congrats to UNC!
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:26 PM
looks like Huckleberry Hound will finally win oneFuck him.
This sucks. Nice second half, Illini, but you missed too many open looks. At least they made it interesting.
the aftermath
04-04-05, 11:26 PM
Boooo. I hate seeing that these punk ass Cackalackie players will win a title.
What makes them "punk ass"?
brizz
04-04-05, 11:26 PM
what the fuck is that? the UNC fight song?
Dr_Evil
04-04-05, 11:26 PM
Congrats to Roy Williams and the Tar Heels. Sean May is an absolute beast.
Dabaomb
04-04-05, 11:26 PM
I H8 Carolina!!!!!!
Congrats to them though.
Nazgul
04-04-05, 11:27 PM
What makes them "punkass"?
Stab your coach in the back and threaten to transfer.
Quake1028
04-04-05, 11:27 PM
What makes them "punkass"?
They stole his coach and took him farther than KU ever could?
Daryl
04-04-05, 11:27 PM
Fuck him.
Believe me, I'm no fan of his, either
welb25
04-04-05, 11:27 PM
great game. Down the stretch Illinois coudn't make the open 19 footers they have made all year.
the aftermath
04-04-05, 11:28 PM
They stole his coach and took him farther than KU ever could?
:lol: :up:
Red Dog
04-04-05, 11:28 PM
Damn - you couldn't hit that meaningless 3 to give me a push. :down:
Oh well, I can't complain too much. I've had a quite a run since March 1: 17-6 and up 34 units.
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:28 PM
If Matt Doherty has any more trouble finding a job, all he needs to say is that he recruited the national champs. It's got to get him something better than a mid-major. Everyone deserves a second chance.
Jeremy517
04-04-05, 11:28 PM
People I want shooting for my team, with the championship on the line:
<s>Anyone from Illinois</s>
Aw, who am I fooling. None of my teams, college or pro, in any sport, will be playing for the title any time soon.
brizz
04-04-05, 11:29 PM
Stab your coach in the back and threaten to transfer.
Someone's bitter :D
Have a drink!
http://www.bweather.com/albums/oct1703_500/116_1615.JPG
Daryl
04-04-05, 11:29 PM
It's Doherty's weird looking hair that is preventing him from finding a job ;)
Patman
04-04-05, 11:30 PM
Well, I guess I can take solace in knowing my team, GT, was the last team to beat UNC this year. :D
Congrats to UNC for bringing the National Championship back to the ACC!
brizz
04-04-05, 11:31 PM
One Shining Moment!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:31 PM
And my recent sports jinx continues...
Actually this loss shall forever be blamed on my former friend who had been here to watch the last two Illini victories, but for some reason or other went to Krieger's tonight w/ some other people. Kevin - you are a shit-fuck.
Red Dog
04-04-05, 11:32 PM
And my recent sports jinx continues...
Actually this loss shall forever be blamed on my former friend who had been here to watch the last two Illini victories, but for some reason or other went to Krieger's tonight w/ some other people. Kevin - you are a shit-fuck.
Yeah. Hanging out with Lon Kruger can't be good for the mojo.
B.A.
04-04-05, 11:33 PM
One Shining Moment!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!Am I the only who has hated that song for years?
Buy: