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Myster X
03-23-05, 11:58 AM
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20050323/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_2

BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S. and Iraqi forces raided a suspected guerrilla training camp and killed 85 fighters, the single biggest one-day death toll for militants in months and the latest in a series of blows to the insurgency, Iraqi officials said Wednesday.

Politicians helping shape a postelection government expected within days said negotiators are considering a Sunni Arab as defense minister in a move aimed at bringing them into the political process — and perhaps deflate the insurgency they lead.

The U.S. military announced late Tuesday that its air and ground forces backed Iraqi commandos during a noontime raid on the suspected training camp near Lake Tharthar in central Iraq (news - web sites). Seven commandos died in fighting, the U.S. military said. It did not give a death toll for the militants.

Iraqi officials said Wednesday 85 insurgents died in the clash — the largest number killed in a single battle since the U.S. Marine-led November attack on the former militant stronghold of Fallujah left more than 1,000 dead. On Sunday, U.S. forces killed 26 attackers after an ambush south of Baghdad.

Also Wednesday, a mortar shell or rocket struck an elementary school in western Baghdad, killing at least one child and injuring three others, according to a police official who asked not to be identified out of fear of retribution by attackers.

Children fled the schoolhouse, abandoning backpacks and books on desks littered with glass shards. One teacher wept outside as parents rushed to the scene.

Hours later, a policeman trying to defuse a roadside bomb in Baghdad died and another officer was wounded when the device exploded, police Capt. Talib Thamir said.

On the political front, Abbas Hassan Mousa al-Bayati, a top member of the United Iraqi Alliance, said negotiators from his Shiite-dominated bloc and a Kurdish coalition could tap a Sunni Arab to head the ministry of defense, which oversees the Iraqi army battling the insurgency.


"The Defense Ministry will go to a Sunni Arab because we do not want Arab Sunnis to feel that they are marginalized," al-Bayati told The Associated Press. "They will be given one of the four major posts because we want them to feel that they are part of the political formula."


Sunni Arabs, dominant under ousted dictator Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), largely stayed away from the Jan. 30 balloting amid calls for them to boycott and threats against voters by the Sunni-led insurgency.


Political leaders have in the past announced plans on filling Cabinet positions, only to reverse themselves later.


Al-Bayati said his group and the Kurdish coalition, which together won 215 seats in the new 275-seat National Assembly, were expected to name a president Saturday, the next step toward forming a new government. Kurdish leader Jalal Talabani is expected to fill the post.


Fuad Masoum, a member of the Kurdish negotiating team, said no definitive decisions on the 32-member Cabinet have been made. He declined to confirm that a Sunni Arab will be named defense minister but said that was one option under consideration.


Handing the post to a Sunni Arab could help undermine support for the insurgency, while assuaging Sunni fears that the Shiites will dominate all aspect's of the country's upcoming government.


The army chief of staff could be a Shiite, al-Bayati said.


He added that his bloc was pressing for a Shiite to head the Interior Ministry, which oversees the police — Iraq's other main security force — and that a Kurd could become foreign minister.


Amid the political wrangling, top Shiite cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani had been scheduled to talk with Talabani on Wednesday. But the meeting was canceled due to "security concerns," said Meithemn Faisal, an official from al-Sistani's office.

Kurds are thought to number between 15 percent and 20 percent of Iraq's 25 million people, with Sunni Arabs roughly equivalent. Shiite Arabs make up 60 percent of the population.

Thor Simpson
03-23-05, 12:20 PM
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Were they having a wedding party?

DVD Polizei
03-23-05, 07:08 PM
No, actually this was a birthday party. :(

OldDude
03-23-05, 10:28 PM
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Were they having a wedding party?

No, they were celebrating getting to meet Allah, just like the insurgents who ambushed Marines on Sunday and found them more than they had bargained for.

Mutley Hyde
03-23-05, 10:55 PM
No, actually this was a birthday party. :(

Complete with cake-bomb and ricin flavor ice cream? Were they playing pin the tail on the infidel?

Gallant Pig
03-23-05, 11:12 PM
Complete with cake-bomb and ricin flavor ice cream? Were they playing pin the tail on the infidel?

I heard they had Yellow Cake, can anyone confirm this?

Mutley Hyde
03-23-05, 11:32 PM
All the yellow cake mix was shipped to Syria before the war. :(

mikehunt
03-23-05, 11:48 PM
5.56mm of justice

bhk
03-24-05, 02:16 PM
That's 6120 Helen Thomas-lookalike virgins that Allah has to compe up with now.

Jam Master Jay
03-25-05, 11:43 AM
I heard they had Yellow Cake, can anyone confirm this?

As long as they had a special CIA napkin to hold it :D

Pharoh
03-25-05, 01:05 PM
It is believed that at the most only 40 to 45 "insurgents", (I hate the use of that word), were killed at Lake Tharthar. Other reports put the death toll closer to twenty.

Tommy Ceez
03-25-05, 01:38 PM
It is believed that at the most only 40 to 45 "insurgents", (I hate the use of that word), were killed at Lake Tharthar. Other reports put the death toll closer to twenty.

Its not how many insurgents die...Its how many insurgents the Iraqi people THINK that thier security forces can kill.

bhk
03-26-05, 12:14 PM
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-03-26T114205Z_01_DOB638493_RTRUKOC_0_IRAQ-RAID.xml

Iraqi forces seize suspected insurgents
Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:42 AM GMT
By Omar Anwar
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi soldiers backed by U.S. helicopters have killed several suspected insurgents and seized 131 more in a dawn raid, capturing tons of explosives earmarked for attacks on the holy city of Kerbala, officials say.

"It was a surprise operation based on intensive surveillance by military intelligence," Defence Minister Hazim al-Shaalan told Reuters on Saturday. "It was very successful."

Earlier this week Iraqi police commandos said they killed 85 militants in a raid on a suspected insurgent training camp near Baghdad, hailing it as a breakthrough against the insurgency.

Shaalan said several suspected militants were killed in the latest operation, which began late on Friday and culminated in the dawn raid just outside Kerbala, about 100 km (60 miles) southwest of Baghdad.

The vast majority of the 131 captured were Iraqis, although officials said many faked Iraqi identification papers were also found. It was not clear how many people were killed.

"We carried out this operation so that visitors to Kerbala can go there in peace," Shaalan said.

Kerbala, an important Shi'ite Muslim holy city, has been targeted by militants several times in the past. Next week it will draw hundreds of thousands of pilgrims from throughout the region for Arbain, a major mourning ceremony.

Another defence ministry official said many of those detained were from Ansar al-Sunna, a militant group based in northern Iraq, near the border with Iran, that has carried out several high-profile attacks over the past 18 months.

"This group was intending to attack Kerbala," he said.

Seized along with the suspects were three tonnes of TNT explosive, at least three ready-made car bombs, hundreds of rocket-propelled grenades, several Katyusha rockets, more than 250,000 rounds of ammunition and other equipment.

In terms of the number of people detained and the amount of weaponry seized, it marks one of the most successful Iraqi-run operations in the past two years.

Iraqi officials say their intelligence network is improving, while Iraqi security forces are also growing stronger, giving them fresh impetus in the battle against the two-year-old insurgency.


I bet that when the Iraqis get done with them, the terrorists are going to wish that they had gone to Abu Ghriab and had women's panties put on their head instead.

Mutley Hyde
03-26-05, 03:47 PM
Wow, nice haul.

Thor Simpson
03-26-05, 10:36 PM
Whoa. That's even better. Amazing, actually.

Tommy Ceez
03-26-05, 10:50 PM
The only plausible explination from these two events is that more Iraqi citizens are jumping in with good tips...If it was just pure detective work, this could have happened any time in the past 2 years.