Didn't know where to post this, so I hope this is right.
first this from www.comingsoon.net the other day:
Lucas & Cameron to Highlight Digital & 3D
Source: Texas Instruments DLP Products
March 15, 2005
Texas Instruments today announced it will unveil the future of digital cinema and 3D movies at ShoWest, the largest annual convention for the motion picture industry, taking place March 14 - 17 in Las Vegas, NV. Texas Instruments has planned a landmark demonstration with "Star Wars" creator George Lucas and Academy AwardŽ-winning director James Cameron on Thursday, March 17 to showcase 3D theatrical entertainment with DLP Cinema(TM) technology. TI will for the fourth consecutive year serve as the corporate sponsor of ShoWest.
The new 3D experience enabled by DLP Cinema(TM) projectors will be demonstrated and discussed by Lucas and Cameron, both pioneers in digital movie making. A Christie CP2000 DLP Cinema(TM) projector will be utilized to showcase scenes in 3D from Fox's Star Wars: Episode IV, Disney's Aliens of the Deep and many other movies from various genres, including live action and animation. DLP Cinema(TM) projectors provide exhibitors with the first ever opportunity to give moviegoers a pure 3D experience with simple adjustments to a standard installed DLP Cinema(TM) projector. Moviegoers watching a 3D movie projected with DLP Cinema(TM) technology can immerse themselves in an unparalleled viewing experience with incredible color reproduction and 3D imaging.
"With digital 3D projection, we will be entering a new age of cinema. Audiences will be seeing something which was never technically possible before the age of digital cinema -- a stunning visual experience which 'turbocharges' the viewing of the biggest, must-see movies," said Academy AwardŽ-winner James Cameron, director of Aliens of the Deep. "The biggest action, visual effects and fantasy movies will soon be shot in 3D. And all-CG animated films can easily be converted to 3D, without additional cost if it is done as they are made. Soon audiences will associate 3D with the highest level of visual content in the market, and seek out that premium experience."
DLP Cinema(TM) technology is deployed in more than 310 theatres worldwide through manufacturers Barco, Christie Digital and NEC.
And then today this:
George Lucas is planning to remaster all of the "Star Wars" films for rerelease in 3-D, says The Hollywood Reporter.
The director, who is releasing Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith on May 19th, said he hadn't yet committed to a precise schedule but hoped to have the first film ready for the 30th anniversary of the original Star Wars movie in 2007 and that he would then rerelease one "Star Wars" film per year in 3-D.
I'll be there!
So what kind of technology is this anyway? Do you have to use classes? Anybody knows?
Squirrel God
03-18-05, 07:05 AM
fist this
Moving to Adult...
johnglass
03-18-05, 08:12 AM
So what kind of technology is this anyway? Do you have to use classes? Anybody knows?
I don't care how impressive it is, the day I have to take a class to watch a movie is the day... um... well ok I would probably take it if it was a short class.
Giles
03-18-05, 09:05 AM
Lucas is such a megalomaniac
rennervision
03-18-05, 11:16 AM
Does this mean by 2007, the 2D versions of the films will no longer be available because 3D is "the way Lucas always wanted them"?
Lucas also mentioned that he wants the fourth Indiana Jones film to be made in 3D, but first must turn Steven Spielberg to the 3D side of The Force.
rotfl
Cygnet74
03-18-05, 01:37 PM
Lucas and Cameron should be concentrating on making three-dimensional characters first. ;)
whaaat
03-18-05, 01:46 PM
Zing!
basaro
03-18-05, 02:59 PM
Here's another article: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=509&ncid=509&e=26&u=/ap/20050318/ap_on_bi_ge/film_digital_3_d_1
Lucas is such a loser. Can't he do something new already!?
Cygnet74
03-18-05, 03:05 PM
Lucas said he hopes eventually to release all six of his "Star Wars" movies in 3-D format that can be shown in regular moviehouses, not specialty theaters such as IMAX.
"It looks better than the original, to be honest with you," Lucas told theater owners Thursday at their annual ShoWest convention.
Squirrel God
03-18-05, 03:26 PM
Cameron's such a loser too
"I can't shoot in a lesser format," said Cameron, who is filming the science-fiction adventure "Battle Angel," in 3-D. "I believe that 3-D is absolutely the future. ... They'll have to pry my glasses out of my cold, dead fingers."
:rolleyes:
Cygnet74
03-18-05, 03:32 PM
Cameron's such a loser too
:rolleyes:wow, he's essentially saying that form (style) over content (substance) is the wave of the future. what a jackass.
jaeufraser
03-18-05, 03:33 PM
Having seen The Polar Express in 3D, I for one look forward to seeing these films this way. But, this is still in many ways just a gimmick, and hopefully they realize that these films need to work flat also. Obviously Lucas doens't have an issue, his films are 2D to begin with (and I have no problem with him releasing 3D versions) but I hope Cameron keeps this in mind. I don't 3D is going to sweep theaters the way these guys think.
Hendrik
03-18-05, 03:52 PM
Having seen The Polar Express in 3D, I for one look forward to seeing these films this way. But, this is still in many ways just a gimmick, and hopefully they realize that these films need to work flat also. Obviously Lucas doens't have an issue, his films are 2D to begin with (and I have no problem with him releasing 3D versions) but I hope Cameron keeps this in mind. I don't 3D is going to sweep theaters the way these guys think.
...and how do you think Lucas will re(re)(re)-release his (2D) Star Wars movies in 3D, pray tell...?... he asked, innocently
. . . :o . . .
jaeufraser
03-18-05, 04:40 PM
...and how do you think Lucas will re(re)(re)-release his (2D) Star Wars movies in 3D, pray tell...?... he asked, innocently
. . . :o . . .
Well, as far as I've read, they've been developing ways to take a 2D live action film and convert it into 3D. I haven't actually seen one successfully done, but I imagine they're getting there.
Terrell
03-18-05, 08:04 PM
The only successful and WOW inducing 3D I've seen is on my vacation to Disney World. However, those shows include much more than just 3D films. They include all sorts of atmospheric effects and other tricks, as well as killer sound.
Cameron
03-18-05, 09:19 PM
Polar Express 3-D looked pretty good...I have reservations about how well 3-d will work, but do believe that the industry will have to do something to keep people coming back...dvd and downloading are to good these days...you need something big.
I skipped ghost of the abyss is theaters, and wish i wouldn't Have. Spy Kids was fun, and I think Robert Rodriguez is going to be the guy who helps move the industry into digital film making. We'll see how it works...and I'll buy a ticket to star wars 3-d...just hope that they release it flat for the 30th Anniversary as well.
Abob Teff
03-18-05, 11:27 PM
Great . . . now when Greedo shoots first I have to duck . . .
ivelostr2
03-19-05, 02:28 AM
Does this mean by 2007, the 2D versions of the films will no longer be available because 3D is "the way Lucas always wanted them"?
rotfl
Lucas and Cameron should be concentrating on making three-dimensional characters first. ;)
rotfl rotfl
Great . . . now when Greedo shoots first I have to duck . . .
rotfl rotfl rotfl
This is why i love you guys, one thread, and i laughed loud enough to wake up my fiance 3 times.
Spectacular...
Jason
03-19-05, 10:32 AM
As a person who wears glasses, I am really not to thrilled with this. Those cheapo paper 3D glasses are never big enough to fit over my glasses and never small enough to fit under them.
Giles
03-19-05, 10:40 AM
well lets see if Lucas can front up the money to theatres that want to project and display polarized 3D films - hmmm me thinks not.
Hendrik
03-19-05, 11:33 AM
Well, as far as I've read, they've been developing ways to take a 2D live action film and convert it into 3D. I haven't actually seen one successfully done, but I imagine they're getting there.
...take it from me: there is NO way on earth 'they' can ever "take a 2D live action film and convert it into 3D." 'They' can fake it, by providing the viewer with special glasses, but that is all they can do (and the result is disappointing, to say the least - as well as painful for the eyes)...
. . . :o . . .
chanster
03-19-05, 11:34 AM
I found this picture funny for many reasons..Geeks in 3d!!!! Is that Bill Gates off to the left??
...take it from me: there is NO way on earth 'they' can ever "take a 2D live action film and convert it into 3D." 'They' can fake it, by providing the viewer with special glasses, but that is all they can do (and the result is disappointing, to say the least - as well as painful for the eyes)...
. . . :o . . .
Click the link to the Yahoo News article in post 13.
Apparently this new method shouldn't result in eye strain. Those who saw some of the scenes from Star Wars also seemed quite impressed by the depth of the image.
It's still nothing more than a gimmick to me though.
Hendrik
03-19-05, 01:33 PM
Click the link to the Yahoo News article in post 13...
...well... I'll believe it when I see it...
(signed) Skeptic
. . . :o . . .
duff beer
03-19-05, 02:16 PM
I can't believe I am about to write this: From "Star Wars" in 1977 to "Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope" in 1981 to "Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope: The Special Edition" in 1997 to "Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope: The Special Edition: DVD Version" in 2004 to "Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope: The Special Edition: Ultimate 3D Version" in 2007. What. A. Joke.
Terrell
03-19-05, 02:55 PM
Somehow I'm not surprised Lucas is getting sh*t on the most, even though Cameron, Rodriguez, and Zemeckis are pushing this just as much. In fact, Cameron is pushing it the most. Yet Lucas takes the beating. I wonder why! -rolleyes-
Lucas is such a loser.
:lol: Some joe chatting on an internet message board calling a multi-billionaire filmmaker and businessman a loser!
Let me ask you a simple question. Why are you so interested and so attached to what Lucas does? Do you plan your life around what some filmmaker you don't even know does? For the life of me, I'll never understand why people are so personally interested and involved what Lucas does?
milo bloom
03-19-05, 03:03 PM
Somehow I'm not surprised Lucas is getting sh*t on the most, even though Cameron, Rodriguez, and Zemeckis are pushing this just as much. In fact, Cameron is pushing it the most. Yet Lucas takes the beating. I wonder why! -rolleyes-
Terrel, two things, first: I'm an old school fan myself (born in 74, been there from the beginning), second: I usually agree with your SW arguments*, I just don't post in SW threads a lot (I probably should though).
But here I have to agree with the others: Lucas has shown a precedent for this kind of thing before. Never satisfied with what a lot of people considered perfection for 20-some years. This just seems like another thing in a long list of grievances people have with Lucas for whatever reasons. I have to agree that it does seem kinda gimmicky, and I thought Lucas was going to get away from SW for a while after ROTS. I was really looking forward to seeing his "little art films" and this just seems like something else to take time away from that.
I'm not too interested in seeing older films by the others in 3D either, so I'm not playing favorites.
Now, if Lucas wants to film Eps 7-9 and they happen to be in 3D, well...
*your LOTR comments however are a bit high-blood-pressure-inducing. ;)
Let me ask you a simple question. Why are you so interested and so attached to what Lucas does? Do you plan your life around what some filmmaker you don't even know does? For the life of me, I'll never understand why people are so personally interested and involved what Lucas does?
Because he does interesting things. Sorry, but when people get into an artform that involves mass showings to the public, then you become a public figure, that's just the sad truth of celebrity and art and the bastard child that combination creates. Now, I hate paparazzi, they should all be hung by their genitals and flogged, but if you're in the public eye, you can't expect to live a normal life.
Terrell
03-19-05, 03:12 PM
Now, if Lucas wants to film Eps 7-9 and they happen to be in 3D, well...
Um, you obviously didn't watch 60 minutes did you milo? ;) Lucas has already put this to bed. There will be no more Star Wars films, ever. Leslie Stahl even asked you, you are without a doubt shutting the door on new Star Wars films, with no wiggle room. He stated absolutely.
I have to agree that it does seem kinda gimmicky
I would agree, but according to reports from Showest, the presentation of this technology was pretty incredible. If Cameron, Lucas, Zemeckis, and Rodriguez are behind it, there has to be at least a little something to it.
and I thought Lucas was going to get away from SW for a while after ROTS.
Milo, people assume that Lucas is going to be heavily involved in the process and be involved with it for years. I doubt this is the case. The company that would do this was named in the article. Lucas probably wouldn't be involved much at all. He'd send the films to be remastered to the company that specializes in it. Lucas wasn't all that involved in the restoration of the films for DVD. He wasn't involved much in the production of the DVD. Maybe that was why there were some glitches in that DVD.
Just because Lucas is doing this, doesn't mean he's spending the next 7 years with Star Wars. He'll probably have plenty of time for his art films. He's already mentioned he'll be producing some film about black pilots in WWII.:)
Squirrel God
03-19-05, 03:16 PM
Why I point a finger at Lucas and laugh is because all the other directors cited are working on NEW 3-D projects. Lucas is the only one to say, "Hey, yah, let's go back and do it to Star Wars!" I mean, for god's sake man, change the fecking record!
he'll be producing some film about black pilots in WWII.:)
In 3-D ... :D
milo bloom
03-19-05, 03:16 PM
Um, you obviously didn't watch 60 minutes did you milo? ;) Lucas has already put this to bed. There will be no more Star Wars films, ever. Leslie Stahl even asked you, you are without a doubt shutting the door on new Star Wars films, with no wiggle room. He stated absolutely.
Let me have my dreams Terrell, let me have my dreams...
:)
Squirrel God
03-19-05, 03:17 PM
I found this picture funny for many reasons..Geeks in 3d!!!! Is that Bill Gates off to the left??
1. Taking a break before filming the next Cheech & Chong movie.
2. Wanted in 15 states.
milo bloom
03-19-05, 03:18 PM
Anybody still kinda want to see what Blue Harvest could be? Horror beyond your imagination might be interesting in 3D.
Terrell
03-19-05, 03:20 PM
Because he does interesting things. Sorry, but when people get into an artform that involves mass showings to the public, then you become a public figure, that's just the sad truth of celebrity and art and the bastard child that combination creates.
But see milo, you're much more reasonable and pragmatic about this situation. You didn't get mad about this news. I mean some guy literally called Lucas a loser, which is funny coming from chatters on chat rooms, and got mad about it.
It's okay to be interested in a filmmaker's work, but to get so attached to a filmmaker that you get mad at certain things he does, it is a bit much. These kinds of people don't have much to worry about.
Besides, there are many, many more filmmakers out there doing interesting things beside Lucas. These people don't have to invest so much of their time in on filmmaker. There are lots of them. Me, I just defend Lucas when people make such outlandish claims and criticize him in unfair ways. It's probably something I should learn to stop doing. Maybe I need to invest more time on a hobby.:D
Terrell
03-19-05, 03:23 PM
By the way milo, you're probably too sane to get involved in Star Wars threads all that often.;) Those threads are where we lunatics hang out.
Cygnet74
03-19-05, 04:25 PM
As a person who wears glasses, I am really not to thrilled with this. Those cheapo paper 3D glasses are never big enough to fit over my glasses and never small enough to fit under them.http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images/000/295/386_Dr%20Jacoby.jpg
Squirrel God
03-19-05, 04:41 PM
Don't see David Lynch playing about with gimmicks like 3-D do you? :D
jaeufraser
03-19-05, 06:09 PM
...take it from me: there is NO way on earth 'they' can ever "take a 2D live action film and convert it into 3D." 'They' can fake it, by providing the viewer with special glasses, but that is all they can do (and the result is disappointing, to say the least - as well as painful for the eyes)...
. . . :o . . .
Well, 3D is still about special glasses and and special methods. Yes, they can convert a 2D movie into 3D, as if you do some more reading on this very presenation, you'll know they showed 8 minutes of a New Hope in 3d, along with clips from Lilo and Sticth, LoTR and Attack of the Clones. Is it true 3D, ala holographic projection? No, but nobody said it was. I don't know how the tech works, but I doubt these guys would be presenting it (and getting some rave reviews) if it didn't look pretty damn good.
If you've seen these converted 3D films, I'm all ears to what you think of the quality. And then compare it to Imax 3D. But saying it's impossible when it's already been done is...obviously incorrect. Wearing glasses isn't "faking" the process.
Hendrik
03-21-05, 12:19 PM
...erm... a 2D image is a single (=one) 2D image... for an image to be 'real' 3D (i.e. stereoscopic), you actually need two almost-but-not-quite-the-same images, one for the left eye, one for the right eye,
(for instance: Columbia's Miss Sadie Thompson, Warner's Dial M For Murder, MGM's Kiss Me Kate) and... oh, but why am I going on like this... fuggetit (http://www.stereoscopy.com/)!
(signed) Charter Member of the Swiss Society for Stereoscopy (http://www.stereoskopie.ch/deutsch/home_d.htm)
. . . :o . . .
Numanoid
03-21-05, 12:30 PM
Great news! Now we can get that 3-D version of Howard The Duck that we've all been clamoring for.
Dansize
03-21-05, 06:12 PM
Great news! Now we can get that 3-D version of Howard The Duck that we've all been clamoring for.
No, it's the next generation. . . Jar-Jar in 3D!
Actually I am intrigued by the technical aspects but unfortunately am jaded by the usual Lucas-bashing.
Gerry P.
03-22-05, 12:35 AM
...erm... a 2D image is a single (=one) 2D image... for an image to be 'real' 3D (i.e. stereoscopic), you actually need two almost-but-not-quite-the-same images, one for the left eye, one for the right eye,
(for instance: Columbia's Miss Sadie Thompson, Warner's Dial M For Murder, MGM's Kiss Me Kate) and... oh, but why am I going on like this... fuggetit (http://www.stereoscopy.com/)!And you don't think they can simulate this with CGI?
UAIOE
03-22-05, 01:09 AM
Aww yeah...pretty soon...."Captain EO" in glorious 3D on DVD!!!
Cygnet74
04-11-05, 04:51 PM
from DVDfile.com...
"In related Star Wars news, reports are popping up all over the net about an amazing development. A company called In-Three located in Agoura Hills, California has perfected image-processing software it calls the Dimensionalization Process. It's apparently capable of transforming 2-D images into 3-D images. So impressive is this technology that at ShoWest last week, a panel of prominent filmmakers appeared to announce embracing the process. The panel was hosted by Business Development Manager for TI DLP Cinema Doug Darrow and composed of filmmakers George Lucas, James Cameron, Robert Zemeckis, Robert Rodriguez, and Randall Kleiser.
The panel presented a collection transformed 3-D clips from Attack of the Clones, A New Hope, and several other films. Reports from the show indicate that the 3-D effect is very impressive and very natural. Lucas announced that he plans to re-release the entire Star Wars saga - all six episodes - in 3-D starting in 2007 with A New Hope on its 30th anniversary; he then plans to re-release one transformed Star Wars film in each succeeding year. And Lucas was reported to have said that he wants to convince Steven Spielberg to shoot the fourth (and presumably last) Indiana Jones film in 3-D.
The other filmmakers are embracing 3-D for new productions. Cameron (who has released two IMAX films in 3-D) is in preproduction on a 3-D film called Battle Angel, scheduled for a 2007 release. Zemeckis has two 3-D features in production (The Polar Express was released in IMAX 3-D). Rodriguez is in postproduction for The Adventures of Shark Boy & Lava Girl, a 3-D film set for summer release. And rumor has it that Peter Jackson may shoot The Hobbits (the prequel to the Ring trilogy) in 3-D; he's reported to have installed a 3-D master suite in his production offices in New Zealand. Since ShoWest is a venue to reach exhibitors, the panel seemed to be reaching out to the community, encouraging them to install the digital cinema products that would support these new 3-D presentations.
The impact of this development on Home Theater is no less significant. HD's 720p60 (or perhaps better yet, 1080p48) is a logical choice for conveying of high-resolution 3-D images to the home. All that's needed is a fast display with low image lag and synchronized LCD glasses for a full color presentation. HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc could be a wonderful source of high-resolution 3-D images, and I suppose it might be equally possible to create 3-D images in a similar manner with standard resolution progressive video (480p60). But very likely, to support 3-D will require firmware changes in the players.
The potential for such remarkable technology coming to Home Theater relatively soon is truly impressive, but I can't help wonder if 3-D might be withheld from the consumer market. 3-D might turn out to be the filmmakers' last remaining lure to tempt us to shut our DVD players off and draw us back into the motion picture theater. Then again, I suppose this could be the foretaste of high definition double-dips to come: buy the 2-D HD-DVD or Blu-ray Disc now, and be expected to buy the 3-D version later."
paulringodaman
04-11-05, 04:54 PM
Wow......I just happened upon this topic.........Wow, I am calling all my dork friends!!!!
This is a perfect excuse to rerelease any SW movies!!! YEAH!
gabeon
04-12-05, 03:21 PM
Lucas said he hopes eventually to release all six of his "Star Wars" movies in 3-D format that can be shown in regular moviehouses, not specialty theaters such as IMAX.
"It looks better than the original, to be honest with you," Lucas told theater owners Thursday at their annual ShoWest convention.
Does Lucas even remember what the originals look like???
Abob Teff
04-14-05, 12:23 AM
Just because Lucas is doing this, doesn't mean he's spending the next 7 years with Star Wars. He'll probably have plenty of time for his art films. He's already mentioned he'll be producing some film about black pilots in WWII.:)
Great . . . I've heard that Pearl Harbor shoots first.
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