The Rise and Fall of 2D Animation!
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The Rise and Fall of 2D Animation!
Back in 1994, when the Lion King was released , it seemd to make rock stars out of 2D artists, and with over $400 million worldwide on the Lion Kind, 2D was in a pretty good position. 10 years later, 2D is virtually nowhere to be seen. With the fact that Disney has no @D animated film on the scheduling books, does this mean that 2D is over for a long time? Disney seems to think that 3D is just is what is appealing to people right now, but that not it. People are resaponding to these pictures, primarily due to their effective storylines. Will the Pixar/Disney split next year help Disney realize this, and revert back to 2d? I use to love going to see a Disney film, and hearing that "hit" song that was featured with it as well. "Someday" by All-4-One captured perfectly the essence one fells when truly alone in this world. "Beauty and the Beast" was a wonderful tune as well. I miss that.
Don't get me wrong, I love 3D animation, but why can't we have both? If we continue to completely ignore 2D, we will also be ignoring a part of the history that made animation so memmorable. Is their any hope for 2D animation in the future?
Don't get me wrong, I love 3D animation, but why can't we have both? If we continue to completely ignore 2D, we will also be ignoring a part of the history that made animation so memmorable. Is their any hope for 2D animation in the future?
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People are resaponding to these pictures, primarily due to their effective storylines.
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It's hard to call. While I think the method of animation is not the problem (2002's Lilo and Stich was quite the success despite its 2d leanings) and more the problem of the films themselves, there is no doubt 3D animation is where the big money is.
So, while it's no surprising that this is where DIsney would put its focus, it is unfortunate that they've completely abandoned 2D. While I do not think 2D has the ability to compete in terms of achieving the consistant mega grosses of its 3D couterparts, I do think they could still turn out good hits. But, apparently that is not their intention. One can hope at some point someone sees the potential in 2D animation, and doesn't just see it as some outdated technology.
So, while it's no surprising that this is where DIsney would put its focus, it is unfortunate that they've completely abandoned 2D. While I do not think 2D has the ability to compete in terms of achieving the consistant mega grosses of its 3D couterparts, I do think they could still turn out good hits. But, apparently that is not their intention. One can hope at some point someone sees the potential in 2D animation, and doesn't just see it as some outdated technology.
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I personally think CG has A LOT to do with it. I wouldn't have ever considered seeing films like A Bugs Life and Shark Tale if they were 2D animation. I also wouldn't go see the upcoming Cars either. Yes, the Pixar stories are great, but I also like to "look" at these films as well.
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Will the Pixar/Disney split next year help Disney realize this, and revert back to 2d?
Oh Dalvin, what wont you post about in the wrong forum.
tHOUGH, I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU DIDN'T POST LIKE THIS.
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I think right now 3D is the "it" thing. It's new. It wows people and it makes it a little eaiser for some people to relate to. I don't think 2D is dead, it's just letting it's younger brother get a little bit of the limelight for a while. In time we'll see some more 2D films. I don't think they will ever be back as big as they were in the early 90's, but they will return. Disney is not the only company to halt 2D production, I believe Dreamworks followed suit as well.
It's not really about the medium, it's the story. Story is key. This is something that I think Pixar has that none of the other companies have right now. The know the difference between telling a story and whoring out a new medium in order to cash in as much and as quickly as possible <cough> Dreamworks <cough>. Pixar doesn't parade their voice actor's names as the reason to see the movie.
Disney used to be all about story, but they have kind of lost their way a bit. I personally think they should go back to quasi-musical films like the Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Beauty and the Beast. They can comeback I think...boot Eisner first though..
It's not really about the medium, it's the story. Story is key. This is something that I think Pixar has that none of the other companies have right now. The know the difference between telling a story and whoring out a new medium in order to cash in as much and as quickly as possible <cough> Dreamworks <cough>. Pixar doesn't parade their voice actor's names as the reason to see the movie.
Disney used to be all about story, but they have kind of lost their way a bit. I personally think they should go back to quasi-musical films like the Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Beauty and the Beast. They can comeback I think...boot Eisner first though..
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Disney can make some semi-musical toons but goddamn almighty, let's not exploit it for the soundtrack, eh? I'm personally sick and tired of "artists" being recruited and singing the most commercialized songs ever, and then of course, you hear the motherfucker on the radio every 5 minutes.
No thanks. It's been nice that Disney has stopped their semi-musical toon crap.
No thanks. It's been nice that Disney has stopped their semi-musical toon crap.
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2-D's day is done, in terms of box-office hits. Since adults are the ones bringing kids, grownups need to see 3-D movies. WHy? They feel they're getting their money's worth since 3-D is rare on TV, and they don't have the imagination kids do. Kids can extrapolate scenes and ideas from 2-D better than adults can, but they're not the one paying for the tix.
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Originally Posted by Timmio
I think right now 3D is the "it" thing. It's new. It wows people and it makes it a little eaiser for some people to relate to. I don't think 2D is dead, it's just letting it's younger brother get a little bit of the limelight for a while. In time we'll see some more 2D films. I don't think they will ever be back as big as they were in the early 90's, but they will return. Disney is not the only company to halt 2D production, I believe Dreamworks followed suit as well.
It's not really about the medium, it's the story. Story is key. This is something that I think Pixar has that none of the other companies have right now. The know the difference between telling a story and whoring out a new medium in order to cash in as much and as quickly as possible <cough> Dreamworks </cough>. Pixar doesn't parade their voice actor's names as the reason to see the movie.
Disney used to be all about story, but they have kind of lost their way a bit. I personally think they should go back to quasi-musical films like the Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Beauty and the Beast. They can comeback I think...boot Eisner first though..
It's not really about the medium, it's the story. Story is key. This is something that I think Pixar has that none of the other companies have right now. The know the difference between telling a story and whoring out a new medium in order to cash in as much and as quickly as possible <cough> Dreamworks </cough>. Pixar doesn't parade their voice actor's names as the reason to see the movie.
Disney used to be all about story, but they have kind of lost their way a bit. I personally think they should go back to quasi-musical films like the Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Beauty and the Beast. They can comeback I think...boot Eisner first though..
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Originally Posted by AndyCapps
They're still doing 2D stuff, just not hand drawn. Pooh's Heffalump Movie and the straight to DVD Bambi movie that's coming out next year come to mind.
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also, it's a lot cheaper, can be made quicker and easier (look at turn around time for something like southpark compared to something like simpsons).
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Originally Posted by Iron_Giant
2D is dead because 3D gives us better color, clearer picture, more realistic visuals (for a cartoon) and a perfect transfer to DVD!
I look at this a being sort of like the move from black and white to color film. The vast majority of films today are color, but B&W is sometimes used very effectively as an artistic choice (e.g. Raging Bull). I hope that we will continue to see 2D features from time to time when the medium is a good artistic fit with the story being told.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
also, it's a lot cheaper, can be made quicker and easier (look at turn around time for something like southpark compared to something like simpsons).