If there was a regular and a special edition version of a DVD, I always used to buy the special edition version. Didn't matter on the price difference, I felt inadequate if I didn't own the superior version.
Just lately, however, I've started asking myself "why?" Most of the time, the most I ever watch of the extras is a quick flick through after I've watched the movie for the first time. After that, I rarely ever even click on them again, let alone watch a second or two.
So I was just about to pre-order the Man on Fire Special Edition DVD, when I suddenly realised that I didn't give a damn about any of the additional extras on Disk 2. Then I went to pre-order Lemony Snicket and realised the same thing.
Why should I shell out extra for stuff that I really don't care about?
Sure, there are movies where I do want all the extras, or I think I might do, but the vast majority of the time I don't.
So now I'm gonna start only buying Special Editions when I really actually want the additional extras on the Special Edition (or it features an extended cut or something like that). Otherwise, single disk release for me.
What's your approach to Special Editions? :)
chileorgullo
02-25-05, 11:57 PM
there's gotta be a difference.
6th day over 6th day se there really isn't any, go for the cheaper one
one flew over the cuckoo's nest I HAD to get the one with the better picture quality and 5.1
can't think of many others now...
NatrlBornThrllr
02-26-05, 12:05 AM
I always buy the Special Edition...but I think I've watched extras on about 3 of my 500 or so DVD's. Yeah, it's just an obsession.
Edit: Typo. If you're really curious, you can play "Where's Typo" (get it, like Where's Waldo? God I'm witty) in the quote below.
-JP
natevines
02-26-05, 12:19 AM
I always buy the Special Edition...but I think I've watched extras on about 3 or my 500 or so DVD's. Yeah, it's just an obsession.
-JP
Exact same situation here. I always have to own the BEST version (in R1, of course), even though I rarely watch extras. Guess we're just marketing pawns :(
chipmac
02-26-05, 12:28 AM
In the beginning of the format I bought the SE or deluxe version of everything I could. If the SE was a release that came out much later it I would only buy it depending on how much I liked the film and what the extras were. Today if I buy the standard version cheap the week of release and the double dip comes out months later I usually only buy it for a different cut of the film and not for any extra bonus material.
KPlummer
02-26-05, 01:04 AM
Its all about the audio and video quality. I buy whatever has the best. I think "Extras" are a waste of possible bitrate whether it be for an improved audio track or more video detail. I think I listened to some of the commentary on Toy Story and a little bit of the extras for Aliens. Not my kind of entertainment. So if SE/UE/etc offers something more in the way of quality, I buy it. Otherwise its whats on sale...
Captain Jackal
02-26-05, 01:07 AM
Its all about the audio and video quality. I buy whatever has the best.
I agree completely. Extra features are always a welcome addition but when it really comes down to it I buy whichever has the better transfer.
justbarelymovin
02-26-05, 01:17 AM
I try to buy SEs when I can afford them. I almost always hold out for the better editions just because I'm snobby like that. DVDs made me this way, I swear. :(
NatrlBornThrllr
02-26-05, 01:24 AM
I try to buy SEs when I can afford them. I almost always hold out for the better editions just because I'm snobby like that. DVDs made me this way, I swear. :(
You can say that again. I bought Eternal Sunshine the day it came out. Then, about a month ago, I walked into WalMart and saw the S.E. on the shelf. Now, every time I look at my DVD collection, I think of how much cooler that shiney 2-disc edition would look in place of the stupid yuckie dumb regular old edition. I swear, I've turned into a primate because of DVD's...I always gravitate toward shiney objects.
PS: What part of Houston?
-JP
Drexl
02-26-05, 01:28 AM
I would agree with those who say it's the A/V quality that's important, but I don't have any hard and fast rules when it comes to DVD buying. I take it on a case-by-case basis and ask myself if spending extra for the SE is worth it. I did get the SE of Raging Bull because it wasn't that much more than the single-disc edition, and because the single disc edition has no extras at all. Also, I knew the extras were of high quality, and it is an important film that I would want extras for. However, I'm sure not going to spend a lot more, like with the Ray LE or the LE of The Shawshank Redemption. I've always been that way, but HD being on the horizon has reinforced my feelings about this. I mean, I don't mind rebuying something that cost me less than $20 later when it is released in HD, but I would hate to spend $30 or more for something and then want to get the HD version.
So, I guess I will say I won't always get the SE, especially when the more fully loaded edition is priced significantly higher than the non-SE, and if the cheaper option has some extras. I've never been one to buy "gift sets" where a regular DVD is packaged with something like a CD soundtrack or a movie cell.
Oh, and about Eternal Sunshine: no way. I'm happy with the single-disc edition I already have with some nice extras, especially considering the SE has no better A/V quality. Besides, I like the keepcase better than the digipak.
NatrlBornThrllr
02-26-05, 01:34 AM
I'm not going to upgrade...not because I don't want to (I'm the exact opposite, prefer the digipak to the keepcase), but because I don't want to support studios that release a SE of a film only months after the initial release. If I ever see it in a pawn shop for $6 or so (like, a year from now) then I'll consider buying it, but otherwise I'll stick with the one I have. It just irks me to know that there's a version out there with more features than the one I have...even if I'll never watch the features. I'm so anal...it's really sad.
-JP
Tandem
02-26-05, 07:27 AM
I buy the first version that comes out - period. The movie is the only thing that matters to me.
visitor Q
02-26-05, 08:02 AM
I buy the first version that comes out - period. The movie is the only thing that matters to me.
B-I-N-G-O
.. unless there are existing versions available when I'm interested in purchasing a title. I have a priority list and if by the time I get around to buying a certain title, I may actually have a choice. Brazil would be one example, albeit maybe not the best example. I slapped down the bills for the thee disk set mainly for both cuts of the film, but that's it. However, I would have been perfectly happy with the bareboned release if it were not for the availability of the second film cut. I think Drexl nailed it though .. it's case by case with heavy leaning towards best quality on top.
As of a month ago, I now own a region free player and I have to say, with respect to available editions, director's, special, ultimate .. so on, the decision making process is going to be that much more problematic.
At least with overseas "bigger" releases, they are done right. The material is spread out over two to three disks on special editions and there are commonly multiple soundtracks, more specifically, DTS tracks. So, with respect to quality and available options, usually the SE versions win out over region 1 releases. The best of both worlds and this SE versus bare question is almost moot ...
Platipus
02-26-05, 08:46 AM
Oh, and about Eternal Sunshine: no way. I'm happy with the single-disc edition I already have with some nice extras, especially considering the SE has no better A/V quality. Besides, I like the keepcase better than the digipak.
I was prepared to buy the Eternal Sunshine SE 2-disc set. When I looked it over, I couldn't justify shelling out the $20+ on it. Much of the bonus material from the single disc is getting recycled on the second disc of the SE. As mentioned, the A/V quality is the same. In my opinion, the SE in this case is just another marketing ploy (*no big surprise*) to get the buyer to shell out another $20+ on the same title. In this case, didn't Universal more or less just break the single disc edition into 2 DVDs, add a little fat to the bonus materials, and slap the banal "Collector's Edition" across the top?
There are some very nice special/collector's editions out there, but likewise it seems studios also use this as a tactic to get people to pay double the price for the same title.
But I could be wrong...
QuiGonJosh
02-26-05, 09:07 AM
I try to only buy Special Editions, if it's Barebones it should at least be anamorphic or a Superbit.
matome
02-26-05, 09:32 AM
I don't care about extras, since I have so many discs I barely have time to watch the movie, much less anything else. I'll only buy an SE if it offers an A/V improvement (anamorphic, DTS, etc.) over the other version or it's one of my all-time faves.
Filmmaker
02-26-05, 09:50 AM
Like natevines, I'm a complete marketing whore--I figure if a movie is worth buying, it's worth getting the biggest, baddest version. And in the case of double dips, Blockbuster (a company I typically loathe) has made getting decent value from trading in my original purchase a reality, so I don't feel like I'm losing out too bad. Ironically, now that I'm a new father of a baby that won't sleep more than 80 minutes at a time, it's easier for me to watch extras than the films to which they're attached...
scott1598
02-26-05, 11:28 AM
i buy the SE because when it comes to a movie i love or really like i usually want to know as much as possible about the movie, how it was made, little tidbits. usually the back up material is more credence to why i liked the movies and is actually interesting, especially if they include the stars or directors i particularly like and admire. when i have a barebones for the enjoyable movie i usually need more.
sure i might only watch the extras once in a lifetime, but it is nice to know they are there!
Dabaomb
02-26-05, 12:04 PM
I try to buy the best edition if possible esp. if I can get a good deal on it.
E.g. I was able to get the I Heart Huckabees SE for $19.99 so I got that instead of the single disc.
I got the Master & Commander 2-disc for $29.99 with a $10 MIR so I got that.
I couldn't find a deal on The Terminal 2-disc or Ray LE so I got the single-disc for both of those.
If a new SE comes out, I usually upgrade esp if I can still get a decent amount for the old version.
paulringodaman
02-26-05, 12:13 PM
I have to have the most special edition of a movie.....period. Funny thing is, I never watch special features either. I owned the Matrix movies (separately), never watched them more than twice and never the special features and I just traded them in to get blockbuster credit towards the boxset. I hate myself. That's 7 discs I am not gonna watch too! (10 disc set, 3 for the movies)
Squirrel God
02-26-05, 12:21 PM
I have to have the most special edition of a movie.....period. Funny thing is, I never watch special features either. I owned the Matrix movies (separately), never watched them more than twice and never the special features and I just traded them in to get blockbuster credit towards the boxset. I hate myself. That's 7 discs I am not gonna watch too! (10 disc set, 3 for the movies)
I double dipped to get the Matrix boxset and I watched every last second of the extras. But then they rank among my favourite movies of all time.
You have to double dip to get the improved transfer and 5.1 on the first movie too - which is really a massive improvement to boot :)
mikewendt
02-26-05, 12:59 PM
I'll, 99% of the time, buy the SE on the intitial release. The only time I question the amount of extras is when it comes to double-dipping. It usually comes down to how many times in the last year I've watched the disc...
Recent upgrades: Get Shorty & Heat.
Recent Pass On: Half Baked (considered it for about half-a-second)
Brian Shannon
02-26-05, 01:14 PM
I buy whatever I want whenever I want it. If a newer version comes along that actually has more content I will buy that too.
DavidH
02-26-05, 01:20 PM
I ONLY buy the SE if the audio and particularly the video is improved.
TomOpus
02-26-05, 01:38 PM
I don't have any real rules but I generally will buy the SE since I like extras. This differs on what's announced and such.
Heartagram
02-26-05, 01:58 PM
I used to buy the SE just so I could have the "best" edition (region 1 only). But now as of late I have realised I dont watch all of the features as well. So I am going to try to just get what I really need (like Blade Runner which I cant wait for).
LikeMiamiVice
02-26-05, 01:59 PM
depends on the movie,like i did it in a heartbeat for Children Of The Corn,Creepshow 2,Day Of The Dead,and countless other flicks,but I ralrely do it for a new release,like i still have the old edition of Resident Evil
Altimus Prime
02-26-05, 02:09 PM
I'm a sucker for special editions, anniversary editions, collectors editions and directors editions. I will more freely buy those than a standard edition.
I'm not big on extras either. I may watch features, trailers and deleted scenes once, but that's it. I almost never listen to commentaries - when I watch a movie, even if it's one I've seen a dozen times, I still want to watch and listen to the movie, not a commentary.
And since I came to DVD just relativelyl recently, within the past two years, double dipping hasn't been much of a problem for me. An example is the Star Trek movies. Nemesis is the only one I have that isn't a special edition. I never bough the earlier releases of the earlier movies because I wasn't in the market then. So I only buy the special editions now.
But besides extras, special editions are usually superior because in most cases they improve the transfer, so you get a better picture and sound.
Iron_Giant
02-26-05, 02:39 PM
SE about 90% of the time and I never Double Dip. Buy once and do not give the studios any more of my money.
I do hate the 2 Spiderman release at the same time. Spiderman 2 with extras, and at the same time Spiderman 2 "Superbit". I bought the SM with extras, but I would have loved to have bought the Superbit SM.
MetalGator311
02-26-05, 03:17 PM
I try to read on here about double dips and what not. I'll buy the SE usually from DDD during the sale. However, this past week I bought Get Shorty SE b/c I don't own the first one and it has the Be Cool ticket. If I already own a good edition, it has to be one of my faves to get me to double dip. I double dipped on Matrix, triple dipped on Terminator 2, but I doubt I'll get xXx DC.
mwj
02-26-05, 05:11 PM
Last year I bought SEs of The Thing, The Iron Giant, The Manchurian Candidate, Goodfellas, and The Shawshank Redemption. I did not buy the SEs of The Untouchables or Predator because I try hard not to double dip. I have done so only once. I purchased MST3k The Essentials and I already owned Manos, The Hands of Fate MST3k DVD.
Filmmaker
02-26-05, 06:07 PM
It's always struck me as funny different people's priorities (and, by saying that, I'm not ranking mine above anyone else's)--some people wear their mandate of not double-dipping like a badge of honor; meanwhile, collectors like myself are looking at their collections and thinking, "Oh how sad, all that dude has are the boring old single-disc releases!" He he...
Spp
02-26-05, 06:39 PM
I'm not really into extras, so I'll usually buy the cheapest edition. Unless it contains poor audio/video quality, which is usually the case with older movies first edition.
Dean Kousoulas
02-26-05, 10:10 PM
Call me crazy, but I ALWAYS buy the SE, limited, special, etc edition when I have a choice, and I double dip on everything. I just gotta have the latest/greatest edition, even if I don't really care about the extras too much. Most of the time, it's just for the packaging or something.
gutwrencher
02-26-05, 10:16 PM
I have no shame when it comes to double, triple or qaud-dipping. If I find the film worthy of adding to my library, and as long as the transfer and audio are free of initial screw-ups, I'll always buy the first release, even if it's bare-bones. I'm not a fan of waiting and going without....I'll take it now. Later, and again depending on the film, I'll have no problem upgrading for features, alternate cuts and so on.
Since it's my personal library of personal fave films, concerts and TV shows...it's essential to have as much of everything as possible. It makes research and enjoyment through study more complete.
So my answer is...No, I am not buying less SE's. And do I always buy an SE? If it's a film I love....usually I do and on the day of it's release. :thumbsup:
Vandelay_Inds
02-26-05, 10:20 PM
I'll buy the most complete version of a film. Extras? I don't give a damn about those. I don't like to have the veil of imagination being lifted off my favorite movies. Learning how a film was made to me its like watching the dissection of a beautiful model.
Atreus
02-26-05, 11:12 PM
I usually get the best edition available at the time I'm buying the film. I don't always double dip just cause a Special edition came out a couple of months after I bought my copy though. It depends on whether I really like the film or how much of an improvement it is. It's got to be something more than deleted scenes or making of features which I probably won't even watch once. If there is much better transfer or a great commentary track then I'll go for the double dip.
Dazed
02-26-05, 11:55 PM
i'll buy the best version I can find (any region) at the time I want to buy the film (unless I know for certain a better version is on the way soon).
These days every dvd claims to be a special edition with only a few of them living upto the 'Special' part.
The Ferret
02-27-05, 12:00 AM
I go on a dvd-by-dvd basis. I always buy the SE if there's better video/audio, which is most of the time. That being said, if I already own a version, i never go out a buy another version. I'm not a big fan of extras, so if that's all a SE has to offer, i won't bother (unless it's the same price).
me12321
02-27-05, 12:15 AM
Of course, if I have a choice between the special edition and single-disc edition I almost always get the S.E., as long as there isn't a huge price difference. For a long time I would double-dip on even the titles I hardly ever watched - but I've started to change that a little. With the impending release of HD-DVD I've decided I'm only going to double-dip on my favorite titles, ones that I feel the need to see the extras.
For quite a while I rarely watched the extras on DVDs, even on my favorites such as "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy and "Vertigo." Recently though, I've started going through my collection, watching all the extras on each DVD - and in a lot of cases they fascinate me. I'm currently trying to learn more about the history of certain films and filmmaking in general, and, depending on the disc, the extras can be quite informative. Over the next few days I'm going to go through all the extras on my Criterion "The Battle of Algiers" DVD, and I'm kind of excited.
nightmaster
02-28-05, 07:20 AM
There are scads of SE titles I've seen on the shelf and passed up; these days I'll almost always opt for the first release, especially regarding movies that have been made within the last 5 years or so, because the movie is what matters to me, and movies made in the last few years are going to look great (to me, anyway) on DVD the first time around.
In the case of some older films getting a new release that have been enhanced, cleaned up, improved upon over what they looked like at the onset of DVD I'm far more likely to double dip, but in the case of something like The Terminal I'm happy with just having the film itself and not the extras. Extras are somewhat lost on me because I seldom watch them; they're cool, sure.....but in most cases they don't warrant me buying a DVD all over again just to have them. If they purposely leave them off the first time around in order to persuade me to buy a title over again, they can forget it- it's not happening. I cheat from time to time; favorites I'll cave in and rebuy.....Raging Bull was a good example of that, and when Kill Bill gets a new release I'll be there on Tuesday with wallet in hand. Otherwise, I'll keep what I have, buy for the movie only, and save my double dipping dollars for the HD era down the road, because really..... how 'special' are these editions that are getting third and fourth DVD releases going to be when an HD version comes out?