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Old 02-06-05, 12:53 PM
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Shark Tale DVD reviews - can't find any

Hello, everyone. I need some help here. I figure I must be doing something wrong because I searched Google for "Shark Tale DVD review" and came up with absolute zero DVD reviews. I found tons of reviews of the movie itself (which I don't want to read), but not a word about the details of the R1 DVD release this Tuesday (only 2 days away). I went to various sites like DVD Talk (here), DVD File, DVD Review, dvdmg.com, and DVD-Basen DVD review search engine and typed in "Shark". Not a single Shark Tale DVD review showed up! I went to Amazon.com and the technical details for the DVD were utterly useless, and IMDB doesn't have any DVD details yet.

So I'm in shocked amazement how a well publicized Dreamworks animated feature like Shark Tale has absolutely no reviews on the Internet. I figure this cannot possibly be true, so I must be doing something seriously wrong. Could someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong and the right steps to follow when looking for a DVD review like this? Thanks.

By the way, I've come to expect unpopular, old movies like Anchor Bay's recent release of "Death Hunt" (an old Charles Bronson action flick) to take weeks or months for the reviews to show up, but not a major release like Shark Tale! I just wanted to read a couple DVD reviews to see the DVD specs and if the extra bonus content looked worthwhile or rather weak (like Shrek 2).
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Usually when you can't find reviews, it's because they haven't received their review copy yet.

Not sure why they would do this with Shark Tale but maybe there's a problem and they don't want the news to affect release day.

Who knows...
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Originally Posted by Manzana
Hello, everyone. I need some help here. I figure I must be doing something wrong because I searched Google for "Shark Tale DVD review" and came up with absolute zero DVD reviews. I found tons of reviews of the movie itself (which I don't want to read), but not a word about the details of the R1 DVD release
Use this site to search for DVD reviews:

http://www.dvd-basen.dk/uk/home.php3

Regarding Shark Tale, Dreamworks is hit or miss about whether they feel like sending advance screeners to critics.
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I tried that site (DVD-Basen) for Shark Tale reviews. In fact, I usually start there and then go to the separate review sites if I can't find anything. I still don't see any listing for Shark Tale.

So it sounds like the point is that I'm searching all the right places, and the problem is that Dreamworks hasn't sent out early review copies. I can't remember any other instances of a major new release title not having several reviews before release date, but maybe I just didn't notice past Dreamworks titles. Pixar and Dreamworks animated features are one of the few things I typically "blind buy", but I did want to see the DVD specs first, if possible.

My point in posting was to make sure I wasn't looking or searching the wrong places for reviews as I figured somebody must have reviewed it, but now I know I'll just have to wait. Does that mean the Shark Tale reviewers have to BUY their copies or just that Dreamwork doesn't ship them until release date? I wonder what Dreamworks is so worried about shipping review copies early that other studios don't seem to be worried about. I mean even Disney (a very paranoid company, in my opinion) sends out review copies early. I know that because I saw reviews for Mulan and several other titles before release date.
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A friend who's a freelance reviewer says that Universal has gotten really stingy/paranoid about sending out screeners and he had to get "Ray" from a street-date-breaking video store since the screener wasn't in hand unitl the day before street date and that "Shark Tale" isn't supposed to go out until street date, too.

Whether it's fear of screeners getting pirated or trying to prevent negative reviews from supressing release day sales is unknown (not a problem if they do good products), but as long as the studios want to control advance copies, everyone's gonna have to lump it.
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There is a french review on the R1(from canada), but on a "non free" site...

vidéo: 1.85:1 16.9 anamorphic
audio: english 5.1 and 2.0; french 5.1; spanish 2.0 subtitles in french, spanish and english.

The one who made this review dont really like the movie:"Le cas 1001 Pattes vs Fourmiz aura au moins fait jurisprudence. Avec seulement un mois d’intervalle, la sortie en 1998 de ces deux dessins animés sur la vie des insectes s’était soldée par la mise à mort de l’un par l’autre. On ne se risquera pas dans ces lignes à pronostiquer l’éventuel gagnant de ce nouveau duel (quoique les 340 millions de dollars de recette de Nemo semblent difficilement égalables), mais on notera seulement qu’en sortant un an après le poisson-clown, les producteurs de Gang de requins prouvent qu’ils ont retenu une leçon.
Dommage qu'il ne s'agisse pas de la plus importante. À l’époque, concurrencé par la féerie Disney et le talent de Pixar, Dreamworks avait en effet dû se résoudre, pour son premier long métrage animé, à jouer la carte des adultes en engageant Woody Allen et Sharon Stone dans une ironique histoire de fourmis prolétariennes. Cette stratégie, payante pour Shrek, justement parce qu’il était une parodie du monde de l’enfance, aboutit toutefois à un résultat très faible car l’histoire existe seulement à travers la culture du spectateur. Avec Gang de requins, les réalisateurs poussent jusqu’à la nausée ce procédé d’anthropomorphisme référentiel.Cette histoire à l’eau de mer s’évertue malheureusement à puiser dans un registre comique limité, pour qui n’a pas le talent du dessinateur Gary Larson ou du comique Eddie Lizzard. Le premier philosophe avec génie sur les hommes à travers les animaux, et le second dépeint avec un juste non-sens le quotidien humain vécu par des animaux. Mais que peut-on faire avec un humour pataud et un premier degré navrant ? Seulement montrer sans imagination un corail encombré d’immeubles, de panneaux publicitaires et de télévisions géantes. Animer des petits poissons avec des casquettes. Faire tenir le micro à des carpes. En reproduisant le monde des humains à l’identique dans un bocal hermétique, les réalisateurs semblent avoir oublié d’y mettre une dose de finesse ou d’émotion. Là où Pixar avait eu le génie de raconter une aventure animale dans laquelle l’homme pouvait se projeter, Dreamworks a la mauvaise idée de narrer une navrante comédie humaine dont les personnages sont des animaux.Ne sachant pas exploiter le charme et l’intérêt du monde sous-marin, les réalisateurs multiplient alors les références. Les requins sont des mafieux, les méduses, des hommes de main, les bernard-l’hermite, des clochards, et les petits poissons, des gogos auxquels Will Smith, Robert De Niro, Martin Scorsese ou Angelina Jolie prêtent leurs voix (en VO) et leur apparence. Renvoyant constamment à une culture cinéphilique, les réalisateurs érigent même en principe humoristique le clin d’œil. Mais Scorsese et De Niro parlant comme au bon vieux temps de Mean streets, ou Will Smith rappant comme à l'époque du Prince de Bel-air oxygènent trop peu une comédie mafieuse finalement asphyxiante.

Bonus:Ainsi, dans Club Oscar, on découvre une très sympathique séquence supplémentaire où tous les principaux protagonistes du film viennent montrer leurs talents sur la piste de danse (3min 36s, VOSTF et VF DD 5.1) mais aussi un insupportable cours de danse à la mode américaine (17min 19s, VOSTF et VF

Fin-Filled Scenes est une section qui laisse perplexe : après l’avoir parcouru en long et en large, on en vient à la conclusion qu’il ne s’agit que de simple accès à des scènes du film sous forme thématique.
La section suivante, Rock the Reef , est du même acabit puisqu’il s’agit également d’accès direct à des séquences du film (10 en tout) mais ici tout est orienté autour des chansons. Petit bonus en prime, le clip vidéo, Car Wash (VOSTA, DD 2.0, 3min 53s).
Dernière série de bonus de cette section Dreamworks Kids, un panel de jeux interactifs qui permettent soit de déguiser Lenny par rapport à l’environnement où il se trouve, soit d’en savoir plus sur l’ordre de la chaîne animale aquatique (qui mange qui dans l’océan ?), soit pour finir de miser sur un hippocampe et assister à la course (dommage que rien ne se passe si on a misé sur le bon « cheval »).

Rough Waters (1min 42s) est une sorte de bêtisier montrant les délires des animateurs mais dans le même style, on a déjà vu bien plus drôle ailleurs.
Star Fish (11min 25s) constitue une bien belle déception. Si on se réjouissait de voir les stars hollywoodiennes derrière leur micro, les images de leurs enregistrements se font rares et il faut se contenter de leurs interventions promotionnelles (ils expliquent quel personnage ils interprètent : génial !) assorties de compliments les concernant (« Angelina Jolie est superbe, Will Smith est très fort… »).

On n’élève pas non plus les débats avec The Music of Shark Tale (4min 24s) qui là aussi est un défilé de stars de la musique cette fois (Christina Aguilera...) venues justifier leur présence sur la BO du film.
A Fishified World (5min 48s) joue le rôle du seul bonus explicatif sur la manière dont a été créée une partie du look du film. Seulement voilà, les explications se limitent à quelques phrases bien senties (on a voulu tout « poissonnifier ») et concrètement, on reste dans le noir.
Gigi the Whale (1min 18s) est quant à lui un bonus totalement anecdotique dont on cherche encore l'utilité (ce n’est même pas amusant !).

Finalement, les seuls suppléments quelque peu convaincants sont A Tour You Can’t Reef-Use !!, une balade dans les croquis et dessins de préparation du film et le commentaire audio des trois réalisateurs de Shark Tale (disponible en VOSTF). Non pas que ce dernier soit passionnant (on s’ennuie relativement vite, regrettant que quelques unes des stars vocales n’aient pas fait le déplacement) mais il permet au moins d’appréhender un tant soit peu la conception du film au détour de quelques anecdotes détaillées.

Video: nothing to say but perfect!
audio: great

Sorry I did not translate all the review, but I can try to answer if necessary.

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Ummm...i dunno if this is so great of a "blind buy." Pixar movies, I'd say you were good with (but why didn't you see them in the theater!!) This one? Stinky-poo.
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Can't speak for other sites, but we didn't even bother requesting it because it's truly an awful film.

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it's truly an awful film.
agreed. even my 7 year old was disappointed.

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DreamWorks is not giving these out early for fear of piracy.
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As far as I know, Dreamworks does not send out any screeners, or at least they do not send them out before street date.
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Maybe after today there will be some reviews of the dvd. The movie it self was great! My wife, son, and I loved it!
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Originally Posted by Big Worms
Maybe after today there will be some reviews of the dvd.
...erm... and...

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I already bought it and watched it. It looks amazing!
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"Shark Tale" isn't a "truly awful film." Come on. I'm not saying it's wonderful or compares at all with anything Pixar does, but it's mildly diverting and has some genuinely funny moments. And yes, image quality (from the few scenes I've watched on the DVD) is spectacular.

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