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Barry Woodward
12-14-04, 03:01 PM
BUFFY's Whedon Pursued For Fox’s X-MEN 3 After All?? But Negotiating To Do WB’s WONDER WOMAN Instead?? HowButWhat????

I am – Hercules!!

“Buffy the Vampire Slayer” mastermind Joss Whedon may write and direct a big-screen “Wonder Woman”? While Fox is still secretly pursuing Whedon for “X-Men 3”??

I tell you it’s crazy enough to be true!

This could be a hoax, but I find it at least a little hard to believe anyone would go to the trouble of making up something this unbelievable!! Moreover, this source seems to have the knowing of much, and is aware that, back in October, Whedon told the world that Fox never approached him about directing a third X-Men feature.

Of course, October was a long time ago. Simon Kinberg (he’s the fellow who did those uncredited rewrites for “Catwoman” and “Charlie’s Angels: Full Throttle”) has probably had time to turn in his draft of the “X-Men 3” script.

So file this under “rumor.” But if it turns out to be true, remember you heard the Whole Whedon Wonder Woman What here first …

Dear Moriarty, Harry and Herc:

I've sent in the odd movie review to Harry before, but never something like this. This is so good, so COOL - and so confirmed by multiple sources (hey, people hang out with work friends), that I wanted to give Ain't It Cool the world exclusive on this.

Joss Whedon is in final negotiations with Joel Silver and Warner Bros. to write and direct WONDER WOMAN for Summer 2006. Joss Whedon. Joel Silver. WONDER WOMAN. 2006. That's right, baby!!! Ain't it cool?

The only possible thing standing in this picture's way is X-MEN 3. I know what's been said, but Fox is still coming after him hard to direct that, and that's a tough thing for a guy like Joss to pass up. But he probably will. For WONDER WOMAN.

Call Joel Silver and ask him about it. I'm serious, this is very real. Negotiations are ongoing, but this could break in the trades any day. Guys, I'm giving you the exclusive because I'm such a fan of your site, but in a day or two, I'm going to send the info to other places as well...I'm that psyched about it, and I think that Joss's legions of fans should know how close they are to to gold-braceletted greatness.

So anything else I can do to prove my rightousness, email me back and I'll do it. Do your due diligigence, call Joel Silver, call anyone you want, and get this news out there. Because you guys deserve the exclusive, and the world deserves Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman.

Keep up the great work!

[spy name withheld]Source (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=18989)How cool would it be if Joss worked out a deal to write and direct both X-Men 3 and Wonder Woman?

Jay G.
12-14-04, 04:15 PM
Someone has a bit of a Joss Whedon obsession I see. :)

I don't know if this topic needed a separate thread, as it's still solidly nothing but a rumor. At least the X3 rumor had some credibility to it, since Joss has been involved with the X-Men movies and comics before, and has a working relationship with Fox. This WW thing is just out of left field though. I'm not buying it.

Rogue588
12-14-04, 04:28 PM
deja vu?

I swore I read this somewhere...

oh wait. should I have said Joss Whedon's Deja Vu?

Dr. DVD
12-14-04, 06:58 PM
From our buddy's at AICN, the ultimate source of all truth in the universe. ;)

Barry Woodward
12-14-04, 07:20 PM
How about Morena Baccarin as Wonder Woman?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/mutantenemy/morena-baccarin-01.jpg

Dr. DVD
12-14-04, 07:59 PM
If Whedon writes it, I think he will try to push for Charisma Carpenter.

Barry Woodward
12-14-04, 08:06 PM
I'm not so sure. There were reports that there was a bit of falling out between Joss and Charisma over her getting dropped as a regular from Angel at the end of season 4. Whether or not it's true I can't say but aside from that she's 34 and not to sound ageist but I'm thinking they'll want to cast a bit younger than that. At 25, Morena is just the right age and considering Whedon recently worked with her on Serenity, it's a good fit.

DRG
12-15-04, 11:21 AM
I still think the BEST for the role would be Rebecca Romjin Stamos with a dye job, though. She's pretty tall, has the athletic build, has comic movie experience, and actually has decent acting chops. Otherwise, I think Evangeline Lilly and Kate Beckinsale would make good Wonder Women.

LorenzoL
12-15-04, 12:03 PM
I think Charisma has the right build to play Wonder Woman, whether she gets it or not, that's a different story.

I'm not too sure if Rebecca Romjin has the "look" to be Wonder Woman.
But nobody, no matter who they get, can replace the "original" Wonder Woman: Linda Carter.

Fartface
12-15-04, 12:16 PM
Well, when 'Serenity' bombs, and it WILL bomb, of that I have no doubt, he may have trouble finding a job.

Jackskeleton
12-15-04, 02:17 PM
I'm not so sure. There were reports that there was a bit of falling out between Joss and Charisma over her getting dropped as a regular from Angel at the end of season 4.

Joss asked Charisma to come back for the 100th episode, and she agreed to it. And what did Joss do? He rewrote You're Welcome so that we learn Cordelia dies without having Cordelia actually on-screen. As I believe it, Charisma didn't find out that Cordelia died until David told her, and she's more or less disliked Joss ever since.

Morena is just the right age and considering Whedon recently worked with her on Serenity, it's a good fit.

Ugh. She is good looking, but she is not material for wonder women. There was a thread a while back and I think the best choice in there was for Monica Bellucci. Had the looks and the muscle to play the role great.

FinkPish
12-15-04, 02:23 PM
I'm still gonna have to go for Bridget Moynahan.
http://img155.exs.cx/img155/9210/bridgetmoynahan066qf.th.jpg (http://img155.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img155&image=bridgetmoynahan066qf.jpg)

(Not my photoshop job, BTW.)

sabre
12-15-04, 02:41 PM
I hated the way Joss handled the end of buffy, firefly sucked. Angel, he took cordelia from being one of the most fun parts of buffy to destroying her character on angel. whedon is overrated big time. charisma carpenter should be pissed off. but i don't think she is right for wonder woman, too much comedy element to her acting.

darqleo
12-15-04, 04:14 PM
There was a thread a while back and I think the best choice in there was for Monica Bellucci. Had the looks and the muscle to play the role great.

And the Amazonian height too. She's 5'10".

bigsoos
12-15-04, 04:29 PM
they'll prolly just get Jennifer Garner

DRG
12-15-04, 05:05 PM
they'll prolly just get Jennifer Garner

Or Halle Berry.

Jackskeleton
12-15-04, 07:15 PM
I will fire bomb a studio if they pick Berry. Not because I'm racist... just cause I hate hate hate hate HATE Berry.

darqleo
12-15-04, 08:40 PM
I will fire bomb a studio if they pick Berry. Not because I'm racist... just cause I hate hate hate hate HATE Berry.

Not to mention she's already ruined two comic book heroines already.
:D

Patman
12-15-04, 10:02 PM
Taylor Cole (http://www.taylor-cole.com/) is young enough to do a franchise of films if the first one proved successful.

DonnachaOne
12-15-04, 10:09 PM
Heavens, this has already turned into the THIRD "who should play wonder woman" thread?

LorenzoL
12-16-04, 02:20 PM
Not to mention she's already ruined two comic book heroines already.
:D

Well said.

Jackskeleton
12-16-04, 02:54 PM
Heavens, this has already turned into the THIRD "who should play wonder woman" thread?


well what did you expect it to be about? Who should write it? :p

Shannon Nutt
12-16-04, 03:16 PM
If Joss Whedon directs, it's obvious who should play Wonder Woman!

http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!AB!F1!305A889FE315/eddie138/WW4/scrapbookFiles/importD27.jpg

Rogue588
12-16-04, 07:02 PM
Heavens, this has already turned into the THIRD "who should play wonder woman" thread?Hey Mr. Smartypants? This is the "Who should play Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman" thread.

Get it right.

Rogue588
12-16-04, 07:04 PM
Shannon, I really hope that red X isn't a picture of Gellar..

If so, :yack:

Jackskeleton
12-16-04, 09:14 PM
I concur with that Rogue. No way should Buffy be WW.

Patman
12-16-04, 10:49 PM
SMG is like 5'3" tall. They'll have to cast the Hobbits as extras to make her look tall and imposing.

RayChuang
12-17-04, 12:39 AM
The actress that will play Diana/Wonder Woman in the new movie version will likely be a relative unknown. After all, Lynda Carter was a total unknown when she got the role in 1976, it worked perfectly because Carter's looks were pretty close to how WW was drawn at the time.

I'd like to see an actress that would look something like how George Peréz drew her back in 1986 when DC Comics "restarted" the series.

Jackskeleton
12-17-04, 12:55 AM
I like the way adam hughes draws her. And she does look like monica in his redentions.

riley_dude
12-17-04, 04:49 PM
If Whedon writes it, I think he will try to push for Charisma Carpenter.
I thought Joss was mad at Charisma and helped make sure she was a gonner from "Angel."

Barry Woodward
12-18-04, 12:03 AM
Here's a video interview with Summer Glau where she confirms that Joss is interested in Wonder Woman and she picks who she would like to see play the title role.

http://www.iesb.net/video/glautaketwo.wmv

areacode212
12-18-04, 02:34 PM
Joss asked Charisma to come back for the 100th episode, and she agreed to it. And what did Joss do? He rewrote You're Welcome so that we learn Cordelia dies without having Cordelia actually on-screen. As I believe it, Charisma didn't find out that Cordelia died until David told her, and she's more or less disliked Joss ever since.

Is there a source for this story? Such as a quote or interview with the people involved? If there's any JW/CC friction, it probably stems from long before "You're Welcome". Once she was dropped from the show, she's seemed pretty eager to move on from the role of Cordelia. I tend not to believe that they pulled this cloak-and-dagger routine and tried to hide the "real" ending from CC.

he took cordelia from being one of the most fun parts of buffy to destroying her character on angel. whedon is overrated big time.
I think it was David Greenwalt's idea to do this with Cordelia's character.

Back OT, I agree that Monica Bellucci would be a good choice...plus I've always thought that WW should have a more European look, seeing as how she is Greek, after all. Beckinsale/Lilly also have a good WW "look".

Barry Woodward
12-20-04, 04:15 PM
From TV Guide Online:THE CHOSEN ONE: Joss Whedon is staking his claim to another female superhero. Warner Bros. is on the verge of lassoing the Buffy the Vampire Slayer mastermind to write and direct the studio's long-gestating Wonder Woman feature film, TV Guide Online has learned. The almost-done deal comes just two months after Whedon announced that he was getting out of the TV biz to focus on making movies, beginning with his forthcoming Firefly flick, Serenity. Meanwhile, there's no word on who Whedon may tap to fill Lynda Carter's satin tights, but I'm going to go out on a limb and throw Sarah Michelle Gellar's name into the mix. (Yes, this is how rumors get started, folks.)

Source (http://www.tvguide.com/news/entertainment/041220.asp)

darqleo
12-20-04, 04:19 PM
I really don't want anybody from the Buffy-verse to be Wonder Woman.

Original Desmond
12-20-04, 05:31 PM
Rachel Bilson ! (Summer from the OC), she looked hot as all fuck in a Wonder Women costume in the OC !

Barry Woodward
12-21-04, 02:20 AM
From Ain't It Cool News:TV Guide: Whedon WONDER WOMAN A Weality??

I am – Hercules!!

“TV Guide has learned …”

TV Guide’s Mike Ausiello appears to confirm Monday the rumor we reported last Tuesday regarding Joss Whedon being close to a deal to write and direct a “Wonder Woman” feature for Warner Bros. and producer Joel Silver.

(Hey, I just remembered something. On a visit to the fabulous “Serenity” set last summer, Ain’t It Cool asked Whedon what his favorite movie was, and the Buffiverse mastermind said it was probably Warner Bros. and Joel Silver’s “The Matrix.” Hey now.)

“Meanwhile, there's no word on who Whedon may tap to fill Lynda Carter's satin tights,” continues Ausiello, “but I'm going to go out on a limb and throw Sarah Michelle Gellar's name into the mix.”

Mike, if you’re reading this (and something tells me you might be), I’ll bet you $200 Gellar’s dainty toes do not find their way into Princess Diana’s big-screen boots. I could be wrong, but I think fans might be skittish if the actress playing the famed Amazon warrior weighed less than 99 pounds.

5’8” “Serenity” star Summer Glau, 23, seemed less than shocked to hear word of Whedon Wonder Woman when the folks at Inland Empire Strikes Back interviewed her last week at Universal’s “Meet the Fockers” premiere. Glau even came prepared to name her choice to play WW: her 5’10” 35-year-old “Serenity” co-star Gina Torres. Another veteran of that “Matrix” trilogy. Hey now.

I could spend the rest of the day imagining hot actresses doing one-footed spins.

Those latter-day “Matrix” movies also co-starred 5’10” 40-year-old Italian hottie Monica Bellucci.

5’11” Netherlands native Famke Janssen just turned 39, but she got away with playing the girlfriend of James “Cyclops” Marsden, who’s eight years younger.

5’10” Charlize Theron (29) and 5’11” Nicole Kidman (36) are also bona fide foreigners, but expensive bona fide foreigners.

Charisma Carpenter (34), the tallest of the Scooby girls at 5’7 and change, has big American breasts, and to me looks more like Wonder Woman than any of these movie actresses.

Speaking of Americans, 6’ Uma Thurman (34) and 5’9” Jennifer Garner (32) have been depicted beating up boys in the past.

Brazilian "Serenity" star Morena Baccarin (25) also looks perfect for role, save for being maybe a little shrimpy.

Does Canadian Evangeline Lilly (25) have any plans for her “Lost” hiatus? She’s only 5’6” - but there was that bathing scene in the pilot that convinces me she’d fit the role.

I’ll be in my bunk.

Source (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=19012)From Dark Horizons:"Buffy" Catfights "Wonder Woman"

Ex-Buffy stars Sarah Michelle Gellar and Charisma Carpenter are allegedly competing for the lead role in forthcoming superhero movie Wonder Woman according to online celebrity zine Teen Hollywood.

The pair, who played Buffy Summers and Cordelia Chase respectively in the hit show, are battling for the iconic role after their former boss Joss Whedon agreed to direct the movie remake of the 70s television show says British tabloid The Daily Record.

An insider told the paper "Joss has told the studio that Sarah is his first choice followed by Charisma. Sarah expressed an interest, but the producers are more interested in Charisma because she is less well known."

Source (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news04/041220c.php)

Jackskeleton
12-21-04, 04:41 AM
Dark horizons rumors... I laugh at them. No way will SMG be cast as buffy. Like the above article said it.. a 99 pound amazon women.. No fuck'n way.

Monica seems like the perfect choice.

http://img76.exs.cx/img76/9190/Untitled-219.jpghttp://img2.exs.cx/img2/2/mon265.jpg
http://img2.exs.cx/img2/8946/WW164.jpghttp://img2.exs.cx/img2/9915/1090415_Monic_Grani.jpg
http://img2.exs.cx/img2/5835/ww150.jpghttp://img2.exs.cx/img2/7152/mon105.jpg

the defense rest.

Patman
12-21-04, 07:02 AM
10 years ago, sure, Monica's a shoo-in, now, she's too old (40 years old) if you take into account sequels. My pick is still Taylor Cole due to her age (low-20's) and looks. She's 5'8.5" and athletic.

http://www.taylor-cole.com/taylor%20tigerbeat.jpg

And just take a gander at this page of photos of Taylor (http://www.taylor-cole.com/taylor_cole_gallery.htm), and the second page of photos (http://www.taylor-cole.com/taylor_gallery_two.htm).

darqleo
12-21-04, 11:20 AM
JackSkeleton's right, everyone. Listen to him. That goes for you too, Joss and WB execs.

Red Dog
12-21-04, 03:34 PM
SMG as Wonder Woman? No thank you.

Patman
12-21-04, 05:16 PM
BTW, if you wanted a buxom, exotic Italianesque candidate, how about Sonia Aquino (http://www.allcelebrity.it/Aquino/). WARNING, link is NOT WORK-SAFE, you have been warned.

Barry Woodward
12-31-04, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Joss Whedon at Whedonesque:Well, the great thing about nobody posting on comic book threads is now I can be first or nearfirst, and this can be like my own personal thread made up by me.

As the new year comes tumbling at us like a giant, heaving sack of meat, gristle and hoof-parts, making some kind of horrible screeching and staring at us with its one bloodsoaked eyeball, the joys of Christmas and family make one reflect mellowly on what we've learned in this year. I'd like to share a little of that with you all, unless you are under the age of eleven or between the ages of twenty four and twenty six. (These yuletide musings contain violence, partial nudity, and strong and often incoherent language.) (May contain peanuts.)

Movies: They're hard to make. You have to work for a long time and have a lot of thoughts. And you can't just make Tim do everything for you like before.

Flans: They keep us going. And they retain the shape of the ramekin when you turn them over, like jello does.

Stalin: Killed maybe twenty million people, but the last four million he was just phoning it in.

Compassion: It's the thing where other people talk and you care about their stuff or something -- my wife tried to explain it, but I was in and out.

Happiness: Nothing is more wonderful than the sight of your own baby in your arms. And nothing is more annoying than people who tell you that.

Kill Bill: Long.

J.J. Abrams: Mysterious. Has taken my writers but made no demands, not even a note. He did send me Drew's ear, but I just think Drew was finished with it.

Cheese popcorn: Still important.

Serenity: uhh... nothing comes to mind. Doesn't it mean, like, peacefulness or something?

April: Amazingly enough, actually IS the cruelest month.

Resolutions: Too many to tell, and some are federally incriminating. I'm not perfect (I'm prefectly PROPORTIONED, which is where that confusion comes in) and I've taken a cold hard look at my self in the wane of aught four. There's changes. Work to be done. I plan to be a better, more focussed person next year, and if at all possible, have a bionic arm.

I also resolve to write more. Not like, BENDIS more, but a lot. And maybe have some protien shakes, so my body stays in good enough shape to hold up my bionic arm, which will probably be heavy.

Santa Claus: A vicious lie. (But A Christmas Carol really did happen, with the ghosts and all.)

Wonder Woman: Hmmmm....

Well, kids, the fire is slowly dying, like my kidneys, so let's call it a night. Tomorrow I put on a little hat and raise a glass of champagne for another rotation around the sun. I may stay up till ten. Thank you all for a great year made greater by your community. And remember, stay in school. But after all, isn't the circus a kind of school? A school of life, with dwarfs and sweaty carnies and elephants instead of learning. Stay in school or at the circus. Or in a parking lot. Or somehwere with plants, and ferns. Please leave.

Happy holidays! -- The Remains of Joss Whedon.

dstrauss
01-01-05, 02:12 PM
Gotta say, I love the idea of Charisma Carpenter as WW. (Yeah, I know, it's five minutes in Photoshop, but I didn't want to spend actual *time* on this.)

http://www.replayer.com/temp/charisma-as-ww.jpg

Barry Woodward
02-07-05, 01:52 PM
From Lost Colony Entertainment:Satu Rautaharju as Joss Whedon's 'Wonder Woman'?

Hollywood sources report that they've seen "Communication Breakdown" star Satu Rautaharju's name mentioned in regards to playing the DC Comics amazon on the big screen. The Warner Brothers project, from super producer Joel Silver, will be helmed by "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" head honcho Joss Whedon, who's big screen directorial debut, "Serenity," hits theaters in September. Such names as Catherine Zeta-Jones, Angelina Jolie, Mini Driver, and Charisma Carpenter have been bandied about, but insiders speculate that the studio will attempt to build a new franchise on a lesser known, younger star. The exotic twenty-two year old Rautaharju, a Canadian of Finnish and Trinidadian descent, has appeared on such television programs as "Dawson's Creek" and "One Tree Hill" and provides the English-speaking voice for the character of Benten in the animated "Urusei Yatsura" series.

Source (http://www.lostcolonyentertainment.com/main.html)

Chew
02-07-05, 01:58 PM
Pic?

devilshalo
02-07-05, 02:26 PM
http://www.forsakken.com/images/satu01.jpg

devilshalo
02-07-05, 02:28 PM
http://www.maultsbytalent.com/images/FemaleModels/SATURB~1.jpg

B.A.
02-07-05, 02:46 PM
Based upon that second pic - hell no.

Barry Woodward
02-07-05, 02:48 PM
The site that posted this is also the production company behind "Communication Breakdown" so I'm thinking it's an attention grab.

Barry Woodward
02-19-05, 11:12 PM
From SciFiWire:Whedon Wooed For Wonder

Producer Joel Silver confirmed to SCI FI Wire that he is wooing Buffy the Vampire Slayer creator Joss Whedon to write and direct a new film version of Wonder Woman. "I'm trying," Silver said in an interview at WonderCon in San Francisco on Feb. 19. "I'm trying to work a deal with Joss. ... I was just in the other room [where Whedon was talking about his upcoming SF movie, Serenity]. I don't know if I could work that out. It's a complicated deal to do, but I would love him to do it. It would be great if he could do it."

Silver (the Matrix films and the upcoming House of Wax) said that Whedon, an avowed comic fanatic and current author of Marvel's Astonishing X-Men series, came to him with a new twist on the venerable character. "It's just a great, legendary comic-book hero, and it's one that has never been kind of brought back to life after Lynda Carter [who starred in the 1970s Wonder Woman TV series]. I mean, it's a reinvention. ... Tim Burton reinvented Batman after Adam West, and ... [director Richard] Donner reinvented Superman after George Reeves. It's time to do that to Wonder Woman. It's a thing that could be great if it's done great. ... The idea is to try to find a way to make it, and I thought Joss has a great idea, because he understands a kind of female superhero character, and also he's great at what he does. So I'm trying to find the best way to do it. ... We're working our way through it."

Source (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?id=30440)

RayChuang
02-19-05, 11:34 PM
Barry,

That article from SciFi Wire sounds interesting, but I think given that 1) DC Comics is extremely protective of their copyrights and 2) due to an unusual agreement with the estate of William Molton Marston (the creator of Wonder Woman), don't expect drastic changes in the WW costume design if they decide to do a movie version of the character.

costanza
02-20-05, 01:02 AM
Simon Kinberg (he’s the fellow who did those uncredited rewrites for “Catwoman” and “Charlie’s Angels: Full Throttle”) has probably had time to turn in his draft of the “X-Men 3” script.

please tell me this guy isn't really going to be writing x3. i wouldn't want to be credtied for writing catwoman or chalies angels 2 either.

costanza
02-20-05, 01:05 AM
i don't see monica as wonder woman either. she's supposed to be hard and athletic not soft an vulumptuous. she had cottage cheese in her upper arms in a pic in mature awhile back. i can't get behind that.

Trigger
02-20-05, 04:42 AM
It's Wonder Woman, not Wonder Teen. Monica would make a good choice. Regardless, maybe this discussion should head back to the 'who should play her' threads.

Barry Woodward
03-03-05, 02:05 PM
From the UW Daily Online:Wonder Woman Returns by Jennifer Stuller

Last week SciFi.com reported a delicious rumor that Joss Whedon, creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel and Firefly, is in talks to write and direct a Wonder Woman movie.

To say I'm tickled pink (or is it red, white and blue?) at this prospect would be an understatement. It's about time the superhero genre's own Princess Di had her feature-film debut. And if the Fates have their way, it's Whedon's destiny to bring this about.

Most people are familiar with the 1970's TV version of Wonder Woman. Personified by Lynda Carter, the theme song reminded us that our hero was "fighting for her rights, in her satin tights." But devoted geeks know that the Amazon princess has been around far longer than Carter's satin-wrapped legs.

Created in 1941 by psychologist William Moulton Marston, Wonder Woman was a contemporary of Batman and Superman in a time that historians now refer to as the "golden age" of comics.

Marston was a renaissance man; as a doctor, lawyer, writer, consultant and inventor of the lie detector test, he proved to be a savvy and unconventional intellectual. After paying tribute to Detective Comics (aka DC) executive M.C. Gaines in an article for the women's magazine Family Circle, Gaines hired the psychologist as an editorial advisor for DC -- a position that ultimately led to the birth of Wonder Woman.

The psychologist had fairly radical ideas about sex and gender -- ideas that were subversively expressed in the comic itself and overtly expressed in his other publications. Marston believed that women were the superior sex and that men should submit to what he called "their loving dominance."

"Frankly," he wrote in a letter to comic historian Coulton Waugh, "Wonder Woman is psychological propaganda for the new type of woman who should, I believe, rule the world."

Though the ideology was delightfully bizarre, he practiced what he preached. Marston willfully submitted to the women in his life and lived quite happily with his two wives and their four children until his death in 1947. Both "wives" claim to be the inspiration for Wonder Woman. They probably both were.

But beyond the unconventional nature of his personal life, Marston recognized the power of stories to influence children. He believed that the accessibility of the comic medium could be utilized as a method for building self-confidence in women -- and as a way of changing male ideas about societal roles for women.

His self-proclaimed formula for the Wonder Woman series consisted of a beautiful woman with both physical and emotional strength -- a woman who fought for the greater good of humanity through an altruistic love.

Marston wanted to show that any young girl could become a "Wonder Woman," but his peculiar social agenda makes a clear feminist reading of Wonder Woman difficult, at best. That does not mean, however, the icon can't be utilized as a role model in ways that are fitting for contemporary times or for feminist values. In fact, Gloria Steinem adopted the super heroine as a champion of the feminist movement, stressing the connection between modern feminist values and those the original Wonder Woman encouraged in her adventures with other women.

The values of strength, self-reliance, peacefulness and support are relevant for any age, and here is where Whedon comes in.

Few creators of popular culture seem to understand the female hero as well as he does. Whedon recognizes the cultural need for women and men to see a heroic female warrior on screen (just as Marston recognized a similar need for the comic medium). He also has an uncanny ability to reflect and refract our cultural ideas back at us through the various mediums of popular culture.

"Each generation makes the fictional heroes it needs," writes Danny Fingeroth in his book Superman on the Couch: What Superheroes Really Tell Us about Ourselves and Our Society.

Like Marston before him, Whedon had a social agenda for his generation with the creation of Buffy (though where Whedon's agenda is altruistic and empowering, Marston's bordered on kink). Both these brilliant men wished to create a heroic archetype that could upend constrictive and stereotypical views about women.

A return to the mother of feminine heroism -- especially as envisioned and directed by Whedon -- would be a welcome and empowering full- circle enterprise. Especially because it was the creation and intention of a Wonder Woman that enabled an evolution of the female superhero that resulted in a Buffy. Wonder Woman is a role model that can be re-imagined to fit with our time, to be relevant to changing attitudes about gender roles and female heroism. I can think of no one more capable of this endeavor than Whedon. I can also think of no one more worthy.

And hey, it's only taken 65 years to make it to the big screen.

Source (http://thedaily.washington.edu/all.lasso?-database=DailyWebSQL&-table=Articles&-response=opinionpage.lasso&-keyField=__Record_ID__&-keyValue=12234&-search)

Barry Woodward
03-15-05, 02:26 AM
From Ain't It Cool News: ‘Two Days!’ WONDER WOMAN Producer Joel Silver Tells Herc!!

I am – Hercules!!

I just got back from the Museum of Television and Radio’s Monday night “Veronica Mars” event. They screened the March 29 episode, which has lots of stuff with Veronica’s mom, Veronica’s parentage, what Leann was doing with Jake in that hotel, and it’s all great. Rob Thomas revealed what 1.21 is about. I'm confident "Moonshine" will have a full recap on all this for the TV side of the site presently.

So anyway, at the end of the event, as dozens of teenyboppers rushed Kristin Bell and Teddy Dunn, I had a really brief chat with Joel Silver, who produces the show.

Now to understand this stupid conversation, you have to know that on Dec. 14 Ain’t It Cool broke the news Silver was pursuing Joss Whedon to write and direct a “Wonder Woman” movie. Silver finally confirmed as much to SciFi Wire on Feb. 20. "I'm trying to work a deal with Joss,” he told SciFi. “I don't know if I could work that out. It's a complicated deal to do, but I would love him to do it. It would be great if he could do it."

Cut to tonight:

HERC: Joel Silver!!! (Silver hears me and leaps from his seat. I wave him over. Shockingly, he wanders over and shakes hands.) I’m with Ain’t It Cool News.

JOEL SILVER: (all smiles): Oh yeah!

HERC: I want to ask you what’s going on with Whedon!

JOEL SILVER: (smile vanishes; pulls away hand; he begins to retreat to backstage): Two days!

HERC: You’re announcing something in two days? (Silver stops, nods, continues toward the backstage area.) Do you want to say anything about what’s holding things up?

JOEL SILVER: Two days!

HERC: This week? (Silver nods and disappears backstage.)

Lame, right? Maybe Silver just says “two days” to any stranger who asks him about something he doesn’t want to talk about.

So I get home and what’s the first thing I see on Ain’t It Cool? Moriarty’s story about the “Layer Cake” guy getting the “X3” directing job that every X-Men fan on this planet thought Whedon should get.

Stay with me. Here’s the exact words the guy – the guy who first gave us the Whedon Wonder Woman scoop - used way back on Dec. 14:

Joss Whedon is in final negotiations with Joel Silver and Warner Bros. to write and direct WONDER WOMAN for Summer 2006. Joss Whedon. Joel Silver. WONDER WOMAN. 2006. That's right, baby!!! Ain't it cool?

The only possible thing standing in this picture's way is X-MEN 3. I know what's been said, but Fox is still coming after him hard to direct that, and that's a tough thing for a guy like Joss to pass up. But he probably will. For WONDER WOMAN.Remember now: prior to AICN getting this missive, we hadn’t heard anything about any Whedon involvement in Wonder Woman. Nobody had.

“Two days.”

Source (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19647)

Jackskeleton
03-15-05, 02:43 AM
And just in time for Joss to get a slew of questions about this at wizard world.

RayChuang
03-15-05, 10:14 AM
....I would suggest that he work with George Peréz (the creator of the "modern" Wonder Woman in 1986) to create a great character. Peréz's design of Wonder Woman is the one that works the best, and it would be fun to recreate some of the great stories from Peréz's run of the comic, especially the unfortunate career of Mindy Mayer. :up:

Barry Woodward
03-17-05, 02:29 AM
From Ain't It Cool:Whoop, There It Is!! Joss Whedon Officially Writing And Directing WONDER WOMAN!!

I am – Hercules!!

The Hollywood trade papers report Thursday morning that it’s a done deal, though no start date has yet been set, and no one has been cast. AICN sources have long maintained that Warner Bros. hopes to have its big-screen "Wonder Woman" in the cinemas by summer 2006.

"Wonder Woman is the most iconic female heroine of our time, but in a way, no one has met her yet," Whedon said in a statement. "What I love most about icons is finding out what's behind them, exploring the price of their power. When ["Wonder Woman" producer Joel Silver] and I began discussing the character, I realized there is a woman behind the legend who is very fascinating, very uncompromising and in her own way almost vulnerable. She's someone who doesn't belong in this world, and since everyone I know feels that way about themselves, the character clicked for me."

For those new to the site, Whedon masterminded "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," "Angel" and "Firefly," three of the finest entertainments ever televised. He made his feature directorial debut last summer with "Serenity," the big-screen sequel to "Firefly," which hits movie screens in September. He also co-wrote "Toy Story" and created a really great script called "Alien: Resurrection," which was directed by a guy who didn't speak much English and the movie itself didn't turn out so good.

Source (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=19667)From Devin Faraci @ CHUD:IT'S OFFICIAL: WONDER WHEDON

Joss Whedon will be following up this fall's Serenity by writing and directing Wonder Woman for Joel Silver and Warner Bros.

"Wonder Woman is the most iconic female heroine of our time, but in a way, no one has met her yet," Whedon said. "What I love most about icons is finding out what's behind them, exploring the price of their power. When Joel and I began discussing the character, I realized there is a woman behind the legend who is very fascinating, very uncompromising and in her own way almost vulnerable. She's someone who doesn't belong in this world, and since everyone I know feels that way about themselves, the character clicked for me."

As you may know, Wonder Woman is an Amazon princess who comes from the all-chick Paradise Island to Man's World to teach the ways of peace through copious ass kicking. She was created by William Moulton Marston, a bondage pervert and the inventor of the lie detector, in 1941.

Editorial content follows: Wonder Woman is a fine character who keeps getting her own comic book because she's always had her own comic book. She's like the Silver Surfer that way. She's the weird top tier superhero who nobody reads. When she's most interesting she's dealing with her mythological background, but I doubt the movie will deal much with that.

Honestly, I'm not all that excited about this project, but I wish Joss well. I've made my thoughts on female superheroes clear - fanboys don't like them and their solo books don't sell, but at least America on the whole is a touch more comfortable with female action characters.

Source (http://chud.com/news/1941)

Sessa17
03-17-05, 10:10 AM
At least with Whedon at the helm you know this movie won't go the way of Catwoman, but at he same time IMO this is a very tough movie to make. The good is it sure doesn't have to be like the comics at all. I'm a huge Wonder Woman fan but I know that even the average comic book fan doesn't read the comic or probably never has. It's not a comic with a great iconic villain (although she has some fantastic ones) & it's not a comic that translates that well to the big screen so a lot of liberties will have to be taken unless he is making a big budget campy movie.

Now let the endless speculation on who to cast begin.

redinger
03-17-05, 11:36 AM
At least with Whedon at the helm you know this movie won't go the way of Catwoman


Sessa? :hscratch:

Sessa17
03-17-05, 01:21 PM
Sessa? :hscratch:

I just meant that its not going to be a cheezy, campy, anti-comic book roots, critically & publicly bashed film that is a flop before it even hits theaters like Catwoman was. Whedon automatically brings a huge fan base to the project, gives it geeky comic book cred, & has a proven track record of being a solid writer.

devilshalo
03-17-05, 01:33 PM
Just start here:

http://vu.morrissey-solo.com/moz/perez/cv/ww1.jpg

;)

Jackskeleton
03-17-05, 01:54 PM
Lets just hope he does the Right* thing and cast Monica. ;)




*in my opinion

Jackskeleton
03-17-05, 01:56 PM
Don't mind me, I just like links to *REAL* news sites statements on this

http://hollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000845143
Whedon lassos 'Wonder' helm for Warners

By Borys Kit
Joss Whedon is preparing to bring to life another formidable female character in his latest movie endeavor.

The creator of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" has signed to write and direct "Wonder Woman," a live-action film adaptation of the DC Comics character for Warner Bros. Pictures. Joel Silver and Leonard Goldberg are producing.

"Wonder Woman is the most iconic female heroine of our time, but in a way, no one has met her yet," Whedon said in a statement. "What I love most about icons is finding out what's behind them, exploring the price of their power. When Joel and I began discussing the character, I realized there is a woman behind the legend who is very fascinating, very uncompromising and in her own way almost vulnerable. She's someone who doesn't belong in this world, and since everyone I know feels that way about themselves, the character clicked for me."

According to the lore of the comic book, Wonder Woman is the superhero name of Diana, an Amazonian princess from Paradise Island, an uncharted island to which the Amazons fled to escape domination by the ancient Greeks and Romans. She has super strength, bracelets that deflect bullets and a golden lasso that ensnares victims and forces them to tell the truth. She has, at times, even had her own super vehicle, an invisible plane.

"There's no one better than Joss to adapt the legendary Wonder Woman comic book character created in the 1940s into a dynamic feature film for 21st century audiences," Silver said. "Wonder Woman was the first great female superhero to emerge from comic books and later inspire millions of fans in her television incarnation, but unlike her counterparts Batman and Superman, this groundbreaking heroine has yet to be reinvented for the feature film arena."

Wonder Woman was created by educational consultant William Moulton Marston and first appeared in All Star Comics in 1941. Because of her popularity, she got her own self-titled series six months later. The heroine was played by Lynda Carter in the TV series that ran on ABC and CBS from 1976-79.

Warner Bros. is known to have been eyeing a Wonder Woman feature for some time.

"We are excited about working with Joss," Warner Bros. Pictures president Jeff Robinov said. "He brings great energy and creativity to the process. His work on 'Buffy' makes him uniquely qualified to handle the Wonder Woman character."

Whedon created the influential WB Network/UPN drama series "Buffy" and its spinoff, "Angel." He is in postproduction on the Universal Pictures feature "Serenity," which he wrote and directed based on his short-lived Fox drama series "Firefly." His other writing credits include "Toy Story" and "Alien: Resurrection."

Whedon, who also is penning the Marvel comic "Astonishing X-Men," is repped by CAA and attorney Sam Fischer.

Barry Woodward
03-17-05, 03:38 PM
Wonder Woman teaser poster:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/mutantenemy/wonder-woman-teaser.jpg

devilshalo
03-17-05, 03:39 PM
Is that an add for the Wonder Bra? :confused:

Rogue588
03-17-05, 04:28 PM
Just start here:

http://vu.morrissey-solo.com/moz/perez/cv/ww1.jpg

;)Amen.Lets just hope he does the Right* thing and cast Monica. ;)




*in my opinionAnother Amen.Wonder Woman teaser poster:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/mutantenemy/wonder-woman-teaser.jpg:hscratch: Are you sure about this? And, why did Adam sign it in the wrong place?!?

Zodiac_Speaking
03-17-05, 09:47 PM
Can't say I'm thrilled at the news. Hell, when I was into comics, WW wasn't even anything I ever thought about reading. BUT Joss Whedon is awesome, so I'll cut him, and only him, slack for this project. Hell, he's the only reason I'm in this topic. I'm sure the writing and casting will be top-notch, but will the general public even care? I'm beyond glad he's done Serenity, but after this, please Joss, give us an Angel movie.

Barry Woodward
03-17-05, 11:32 PM
MTV News:An Open Letter To 'Wonder Woman' Director Joss Whedon
Just a few words of advice ... from a fan.

To: Joss Whedon
From: Larry Carroll, MTV News
Re: The new gig

Joss,

Congratulations on your recent selection as the director of Warner Bros./DC Comics' next superhero flick, "Wonder Woman". After a lengthy courtship, producer Joel Silver took one last look at your "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Firefly" genre credentials and decided to make you his date for the prom. Sit back, put your feet up, and feel free to pat yourself on the back.

Done? Good, because now it's time to panic. Have you ever heard of Rob Bowman, Rachel Talalay, Jeannot Szwarc, Pitof or David Hogan? No, of course not, because they directed "Elektra," "Tank Girl," "Supergirl," "Catwoman" and "Barb Wire," respectively. If you want to seek out their advice, they can probably be found pumping gas at your local Chevron or, worse, directing television. The sad fact is that female superheroes have never worked on the silver screen, and many believe that they never will.

Now that the dotted line has been signed, you've inherited the most iconic of female heroes, a character that has captured the imagination of comic-book fans ever since she was suggested by a psychiatrist concerned with the unbalanced messages that male-dominated comics send. We already think of Wonder Woman as the female Superman, a member of the Super Friends who spawned a classic live-action show in the '70s and came to embody the feminist movement to the point where she appeared on the cover of the first issue of Ms. Magazine. It's a lot of pressure, but don't sweat it: As a fan of the movies and of comics, I've made a list of ways you can make the Golden Lassoed goddess work:

Cast Wonder Woman, Not Just A Famous Woman - Halle Berry, Alicia Silverstone and Jennifer Garner may have been riding red-hot careers when they were cast, but they were all woefully inappropriate for the suits they inhabited. True Elektra fans knew that she was an olive-skinned Greek woman who would most likely possess an accent. Catwoman geeks knew that the name Patience Phillips meant nothing to them, and that her back story would probably mean even less. Batman loyalists are still rubbing their eyes to try and erase the image of Silverstone shoehorned into that Batgirl suit. Casting an actress who is physically appropriate and then holding on for dear life to the character details shows the fans that you intend to take seriously that which means so much to them.

Don't Waste All Your Creativity On The Uniform - Pam Anderson looked great in that Barb Wire outfit; Halle Berry was every bit as sizzling in that ripped-apart cat suit. If either had been simply selling something in a magazine, we surely would have bought it. But an actress needs to deliver lines, emote, and it sure would be nice if she could make us care about her character. Give the character a soul-baring monologue, a revealing moment of self-doubt, maybe some clashes with the everyday world that surrounds us. Don't be afraid to think outside the box, but just be sure that you always ...

Take The Legend Seriously - Spider-Man's Aunt May making an off-the-cuff reference to Superman? Funny stuff. Richard Pryor upstaging our hero with slapstick? Disrespectful. Comic books are our modern-day mythologies, permitting us to dream about powerful derivations of ourselves who will protect, amaze and point us in the direction of virtue most of the time. When we buy a movie ticket, we want to be immersed in a superhero's story while feeling as though that hero could be walking among us. Humor is welcomed as long as it is appropriate. Many of our favorite heroes (Wolverine, Flash) have gotten us through tough times with their senses of humor. Putting nipples on the Batsuit, or throwing in Rob Schneider as a smart-mouthed sidekick, is the modern-day equivalent of an ancient Greek writing a play that has Zeus passing gas on his Mount Olympus throne.

Keep Your Wits (And Your Roots) About You - You were hired, Joss, because your "Buffy" so brilliantly walked the tightrope between camp humor and credibility for seven memorable seasons. With the exception of that musical episode, you can simply glance back at those old formulas to achieve that "X-Men"-type combination of not veering too far toward the camp that sank "Batman & Robin" or the self-importance that dragged down "Hulk."

Treat Your Woman Like A Man - As an icon of feminism, all Wonder Woman has ever wanted is equal opportunities. Don't pander to the Oprah crowd to get women into the theater; but don't skank her out for the "Maxim" readers, either. Ignore her gender and concentrate on making a great superhero movie.

Listen To The Woman Who Nearly Was Wonder Woman - "I talked about it at the beginning with Joel Silver, before the script was even written," Sandra Bullock said recently. "I said if it goes in this direction I'd like to do it, if it goes in this direction I don't feel comfortable doing it. It's more interesting when the superheroes are human. You see the antihero and you see the cracks in the veneer. I don't think, as human beings, we can relate to a true superhero, that's why Spider-Man does so well, that's why Batman does so well, because they're fraught with pain and insecurities and human elements rather than being invincible. Being invincible is uninteresting — who can identify with that?" Make her bleed. 'Nuff said.

When In Doubt, Go To The Source - One of the "Catwoman" writers toiled on Bill Cosby's sitcom ... the lame one from the '90s. At the time of "Barb Wire," one of its writers was best known for the Charlie Sheen clunker "Navy SEALS." You have 60-plus years of classic Wonder Woman plotlines to plunder as you see fit — if somebody suggests hiring the writer of "Cheaper by the Dozen 2" to do a script polish, run away as fast as you can. There are at least two comic book shops on the same street as the Warner Bros. lot — let me know if you want me to MapQuest directions for you.

Best of luck, Joss — a lot of us fans are hoping you can deliver an instant classic and bring us all to Paradise Island. Oh, and please, give your security guards a headshot of Sharon Stone and tell them to tackle her if she gets anywhere near your set.

— Larry Carroll

Source (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1498268/03172005/story.jhtml)

Barry Woodward
03-20-05, 09:49 PM
An excerpt from SoddingNancyTribe's report of the Serenity panel @ Wizard World:Everyone applauded a question seeking more info about Wonder Woman. Joss said he “really liked” WW, and seemed totally happy about it. Both Jewel and Morena had their hands up, apparently wanting to be part of the movie. Jewel then said, ever so sweetly, “can I be in your Wonder Woman movie?” Joss, looking meaningfully at Morena, then proclaimed, “where will I find a dark-haired olive-skinned beauty?”

Jackskeleton
03-20-05, 10:20 PM
That is blowing it out of context. Joss was joking about everything during the panel and at that point in time Nathan, who was sitting between Morena and Joss started posing as if that whole thing was a gag/joke. So I wouldn't read to much into that comment at all.

Barry Woodward
03-21-05, 04:26 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/mutantenemy/baccarin-whedon.jpg

From IESB.net:Our friends over at Universal Pictures were kind enough to arrange a quick interview with Joss Whedon and Morena Baccarin after their Serenity signing over at Wizard World this Sunday.

Joss was able to give us some insight on Serenity and of course we had to take the opportunity to ask him about Wonder Woman. Will we see the lasso? What is going on with the invisible jet? Who is the ideal Wonder Woman? Will it be an origin story? These questions and more are answered by Joss in this very funny interview.

You might be surprised in how Morena Baccarin reacts when we ask Joss who would be the ideal Wonder Woman.http://www.iesb.net/video/josswhedonwwint.wmv

RayChuang
03-21-05, 10:19 AM
Barry,

I think it's likely that Joss Whedon--being a top-notch writer and producer himself--will likely try to do a Wonder Woman movie that will be faithful to what George Peréz did when Peréz re-envisioned the character in 1986, a creation that has gotten a lot of plaudits from comics fandom. Whedon is well-aware of the fandom surrounding the character and wants to make sure it doesn't end up like the Elektra and Catwoman movies.

This is why I am hoping that Whedon closely work with Mr. Peréz on creating the script for the movie. If Adam Hughes' teaser poster is correct, then Whedon will probably use the WW costume design almost identical to how Peréz envisioned it--not the current costume design. :up:

Finally, I have this feeling that Whedon--as I said earlier--will likely use an unknown actress about 5' 10" tall with a slightly muscular build for the role of Diana/WW. After all, if the producers of the TV series back in 1976 could use a then-unknown Lynda Carter (who had the right physical "presence" for the role almost perfectly), Whedon would go the same route also.

Rogue588
03-21-05, 10:21 AM
According to Entertainment Weekly, Whedon said no star spangled panties..

riley_dude
03-21-05, 11:54 AM
Barry,

Whedon is well-aware of the fandom surrounding the character and wants to make sure it doesn't end up like the Elektra and Catwoman movies.



I think a lot of people have said they dont want to have another Electra and Catwoman, which is invitable, but I think those didnt do well because they were poorly done. If Whedon does some of his magic, we could have a hit on our hands.

devilshalo
03-21-05, 01:20 PM
MTV News:

How is this news? I think we've all come to understand that Joel Silver and Warner Bros. have now hired Joss Whedon to write and direct the Wonder Woman feature. I come into this thread for information. Not some ranting from some outside source about what they want in the Wonder Woman movie. (We have enough input here about what we want to see. :p)

http://www.hollywoodlegends.com/images/webb-adalat.jpg
Can we please just stick to the facts, man. Just the facts.

Jackskeleton
03-21-05, 01:24 PM
It's news to barry. ;) I also wouldn't put much faith in any of MTV's articles because...well.. they're MTV.

Though being there, I really do think the news sites are taking the statement totally out of context. At the same moment he was doing the description Nathan was between them and he was doing girly poses and showing off that he has the wonderwoman stuff so if anything, it was Joss continuing to joke. The entire panel was a pretty big laugh fest. In reality, very little was said about WW and he said he couldn't talk about it.

Barry Woodward
03-21-05, 07:24 PM
From Zap2it:Whedon Feeds 'Wonder Woman' Casting Rumors

http://images.zap2it.com/20050321/morenabaccarin_240_001.jpg

Now that "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" creator Joss Whedon has been tapped to direct Warner Bros.' long-gestating "Wonder Woman" movie, speculation about casting has begun with a vengeance.

The scruffy writer-director caused a frenzy on Sunday, March 20 with a mere glance during his Wizard World Los Angeles Q&A to promote his upcoming sci-fi adventure "Serenity" when talk turned to the superhero project.

After listening to how Whedon signed on for "Wonder Woman," actress star Jewel Staite, who plays mechanic Kaylee Frye in "Serenity," raised her hand tentatively.

"Can I be in your 'Wonder Woman' movie?" asked the sandy-haired blonde, to which Whedon quipped, "I'll tell you, if Morgan Freeman says 'No,' you are second."

The audience laughed accordingly until he swiveled to look at Morena Baccarin -- a brunette "Serenity" cast member sitting to his left -- and added, "Where will I find a dark-haired, olive-skinned beauty?"

The hundreds of fans crammed into the Long Beach Convention Center's ballroom went wild.

Whedon strengthened the message that Baccarin was a contender to play the heroine, when afterwards he was seen discussing "Wonder Woman" with her at his side.

Whedon has been known to reuse stars from "Firefly" -- the FOX sci-fi series that launched the big-screen "Serenity" -- in "Buffy" and its spin-off "Angel." He's also known, however, to be a master of shiny objects, distracting fans with dazzling plot lines, snappy dialogue, colorful monsters or the occasional apocalypse.

Whether Whedon's apparent preference for Baccarin will bear fruit or is a merely a ploy to mislead fans remains to be seen, especially if the folks at Warner Bros. insist on a big-name star. Nevertheless, online followers have already debated the possible casting choice on message boards. Some support Baccarin, who is of Brazilian ancestry, while others claim she's too "elfin" to portray the kick-butt superhero.

Later in the Q&A, Whedon admitted to Zap2it.com that he wasn't a fan of the '70s "Wonder Woman" series starring Lynda Carter, although he wasn't "a non-fan, picketing the show." He just felt that the star-spangled incarnation "was not as strong as she's going to be [in his film]."

When asked if he'd consider casting Carter in a small cameo for the film, he merely joked, "Lynda and I haven't spoken for a while, so I'm not sure."

While the fans are left guessing, Whedon and Baccarin are busy building up hype for "Serenity," which will blast across movie screens beginning in September.

Baccarin, 25, recently celebrated the premiere of her ensemble indie film "Way Off Broadway," which is currently screening at the Laemmle Fairfax theater in Los Angeles.

Source (http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,---25139,00.html)

Rogue588
03-21-05, 07:54 PM
:lol:

Jericho
03-21-05, 07:56 PM
Although the connection is obvious, I'm a little surprised there hasn't been more talk about Eliza Dushku instead of Morena Baccarin in the role since Whedon was confirmed. But it will probably end up being neither, so who cares?

Jackskeleton
03-21-05, 08:09 PM
Later in the Q&A, Whedon admitted to Zap2it.com that he wasn't a fan of the '70s "Wonder Woman" series starring Lynda Carter, although he wasn't "a non-fan, picketing the show." He just felt that the star-spangled incarnation "was not as strong as she's going to be [in his film]."

:lol: I love the way these sites use the words to make it seem like they had a one on one interview with Joss for some reason.

This is a case like Jason Vs Freddy Vs Ash and exactly like the Tarantino rumor floating around the internet. It just takes one person to take something out of context or read into something to much and then spread it out.

You should take that news piece with a grain of salt.

LorenzoL
03-21-05, 09:25 PM
Although the connection is obvious, I'm a little surprised there hasn't been more talk about Eliza Dushku instead of Morena Baccarin in the role since Whedon was confirmed. But it will probably end up being neither, so who cares?

I love Eliza Dushku but I can't picture her as Wonder Woman. I don't think she will be the right choice for the role.

I think this movie will be served better to go with an unknown actress instead of going with someone who has a "name" appeal. The most important thing will be that whoever they choose for the role, looks the part of Wonder Woman.

Patman
03-21-05, 11:02 PM
Just found another nice pic of my current choice for WW:

http://www.patcave.com/sl15.jpg

RayChuang
03-21-05, 11:24 PM
I think this movie will be served better to go with an unknown actress instead of going with someone who has a "name" appeal. The most important thing will be that whoever they choose for the role, looks the part of Wonder Woman.

That's why it's too bad Monica Bellucci isn't ten years younger--a younger Ms. Bellucci would have been perfect to play Diana/WW, especially considering how the DC Comics artists are drawing WW nowadays.

I would definitely go with an unknown--preferably a dark-haired woman about 28-32 years old with a slightly muscular physical build about 5' 9" to 5' 11" tall. Alas, I don't know of any famous actresses that fit this description nowadays.

CaptainMarvel
03-22-05, 04:01 PM
:lol: I love the way these sites use the words to make it seem like they had a one on one interview with Joss for some reason.

This is a case like Jason Vs Freddy Vs Ash and exactly like the Tarantino rumor floating around the internet. It just takes one person to take something out of context or read into something to much and then spread it out.

You should take that news piece with a grain of salt.

Does it make you tingly to rag on every piece of information Barry Woodward posts?

Some of the criticisms are well taken, but it's crossed from cute to creepy and now into just plain obnoxious. I, for one, hope your comments only serve to spur him into posting even more.

Jackskeleton
03-22-05, 04:09 PM
Funny, I don't see anywhere in my quote there that I bash Barry. I'm bashing or defusing the news article. unless you are reading my text as "these" being Barry. In which case, you are reading it all wrong.

I'm providing some counter claim to the NEWS ARTICLE that barry posted because, as I said, it is taking a situation out of context and creating false rumors that will just blow up much like the tarantino situation.

So... would you rather just eat up every piece of rumor that shows up on the internet or would you rather have a balanced sort of news? As for the barry situation. He post a lot of articles. Some hit the mark perfectly and provide very useful information and some don't. That is what happens when you post every article that comes across your path. I don't see how I was bashing barry in this situation at all.

CaptainMarvel
03-22-05, 04:34 PM
Funny, I don't see anywhere in my quote there that I bash Barry. I'm bashing or defusing the news article. unless you are reading my text as "these" being Barry. In which case, you are reading it all wrong.
Nearly every time he's posted something, you respond either attacking the information ("it's news to Barry") or attacking the source of his information (ex. "Don't mind me, I just like links to *REAL* news sites statements on this" in response to his linking AICN). 6 of your 13 posts in this thread have been directed either at Barry or the unreliability of Barry's posts (with 5 of the others being single line/sentence posts). You can go count for yourself how many have been directed at him in the two Serenity threads. Following through three different threads now, one of which was locked due to your squabbling, it's started to seem to me like you've taken it as a mission to attack everything he says.

I'm providing some counter claim to the NEWS ARTICLE that barry posted because, as I said, it is taking a situation out of context and creating false rumors that will just blow up much like the tarantino situation.

So... would you rather just eat up every piece of rumor that shows up on the internet or would you rather have a balanced sort of news? As for the barry situation. He post a lot of articles. Some hit the mark perfectly and provide very useful information and some don't. That is what happens when you post every article that comes across your path. I don't see how I was bashing barry in this situation at all.

I think most of us can hopefully realize, on our own and without your help, to take sites like AICN with a grain of salt. If you kept posting information from sites like AICN, and I kept jumping in to point out "aw, that's just AICN... here's the REAL news", and continued that behavior over a period of months and several threads, it would look like I was trying to harass you. Especially if we had a history of squabbling, as you do with Barry.

Jackskeleton
03-22-05, 05:12 PM
one of which was locked due to your squabbling

Yes, because I'm the only one to be blamed for that. Notice how when push came to shove and admin/mod action came down I stopped. It wasn't my doing that the thread was closed. Was the fight between me and him? Yes. There is a long history. Then again, you and I have had some run ins. But should I jump to a conclusion that you are harassing me? Then again, does it make you tingle when you rag on every post of mine? ;)

You and I may know AICN and these other sites are known for rumor spreaders, but not everyone who reads the boards does and in many cases, they believe these lies. Look at how the examples went off like wildfires. So just because it's a given to you, doesn't mean it shouldn't be said to do any sort of rumor control.

Besides, this is the sort of off topic crap that lead to the events of the serenity thread being closed. I'm sure I can agree with Barry when I say that it would be better left out of the thread. Want to ask me if I get off on doing stuff. You can always aim me.

devilshalo
03-22-05, 05:54 PM
Do I really need to wade thru 5 - 6 long winded articles from internet sources that basically say, "...at Wizard World, Joss said nothing."? Rumormilling is fine, but I don't need it to be rehashed in 4 other internet articles.

It's like the boy who cried wolf. After a while, I won't want to come in here for fear that "there's nothing new said by joe schmo internet website" yet, I'd probably miss out on something tangible when there is new news.

CaptainMarvel
03-22-05, 05:55 PM
Yes, because I'm the only one to be blamed for that. Notice how when push came to shove and admin/mod action came down I stopped. It wasn't my doing that the thread was closed. Was the fight between me and him? Yes. There is a long history. Then again, you and I have had some run ins. But should I jump to a conclusion that you are harassing me? Then again, does it make you tingle when you rag on every post of mine? ;)

We have? I may have disagreed with you in the past, but I don't remember any serious "run ins." And I honestly can't remember a situation where I was following you from thread to thread trying to dissect everything you post, but it's completely possible that I'm forgetting it.

Even if it's a good idea to point out the unreliability of AICN and Dark Horizons, isn't that something that has diminishing returns at some point? Don't you think repeatedly doing it in the same thread might be more detrimental than informative?

Jackskeleton
03-22-05, 06:24 PM
where I was following you from thread to thread trying to dissect everything you post

Ok, so now I'm not allowed to go to any thread that I find the topic to be interesting? It may look like I'm following Barry around. But the case is anything but. I had some info regarding this topic. Should I not go in because Barry and me have had run ins? What kind of logic is this? Perhaps you should stop reading between lines that aren't even there.

If you saw an accident and were asked to be a witness, then the person at fault said that the other driver had shifty eyes and was really at fault you would want to come out and defend the other side right? Same situation here. Being someone who was at the panel I'm trying to stomp the rumor of Morena being dead locked based on the events of the panel.

Besides, I'm all over the place on the board. It's very common that my post will be in a lot of Barry's threads because there is a lot of Barry threads. Three "Joss Whedon's ______" threads floating around and since I'm interested in those franchises I'm posting in them. Does that mean I'm e-stalking him? No. Dalvin on the other hand, I'll admit to keeping an open eye to whatever he post.

Devil has the right idea. The article was point out already that Joss made this sort of comment. The rehashing and reinforcing it with a few other articles that say the same thing does sort of put that impression that their is some truth to it. So what is the problem with me trying to set the record straight as someone else who was there?

CaptainMarvel
03-22-05, 06:39 PM
Ok, so now I'm not allowed to go to any thread that I find the topic to be interesting?...
Do you like to selectively read sentences?

What I said (and what you quoted) was:
I honestly can't remember a situation where I was following you from thread to thread trying to dissect everything you post

You responded as if I said:
I honestly can't remember a situation where I was following you from thread to thread
It's not only what you're saying in this thread and others (which in isolated incidents wouldn't even pop up on my radar)... it's also your tone and the fact that your comments are usually directed at the same person.

You and devil keep ragging on the guy, telling him what to post and what not to post. I for one enjoy reading what he posts, as it saves me the trouble of searching the internet. If he really bothers you, I really wish you'd both learn to put him on Ignore instead of trying to dissuade him from posting. You don't speak for everybody.

Jackskeleton
03-22-05, 06:45 PM
Now you're dragging Devil into this? He's made two comments so far. If that's all it takes to get on your radar then you crossed from "cute to creepy and now into just plain obnoxious".

I love how folks stamp that "put him on ignore" option. How about you put me on your ignore list? Folks like to pass the buck on to others. I like some of the articles posted. But I'm not going to agree with everything and I will express my opinion when I disagree. I've stated that I do enjoy the updates when they are backed by a good source. It's just those few that are pure rumormill out of left field post that I disagree with and will express it. Besides that, I've suggested to Barry that he add his own opinion to his post because I want to read it. Does that sound like something that would be productive if I put him on ignore? You also make the mistake you claim I'm doing. Which is you believe you yourself are speaking for everyone. It's an opinion. As shocking as it may sound, people differ when it comes to them.

As for the dissecting. I'm dissecting only those articles that I disagree with and posting why. You really are nitpicking about this.

P.S. You must also suffer from selective reading since you've missed this
Besides, this is the sort of off topic crap that lead to the events of the serenity thread being closed. I'm sure I can agree with Barry when I say that it would be better left out of the thread. Want to ask me if I get off on doing stuff. You can always aim me.

CaptainMarvel
03-22-05, 07:10 PM
Now you're dragging Devil into this? He's made two comments so far. If that's all it takes to get on your radar then you crossed from "cute to creepy and now into just plain obnoxious".
Look about two posts up to where you said "Devil has the right idea." That's what "dragged" Devil into this. You mentioned him. Thanks for the cute misuse of my own words, though.

I love how folks stamp that "put him on ignore" option. How about you put me on your ignore list? You also make the mistake you claim I'm doing. Which is you believe you yourself are speaking for everyone.
I'm not concerned about the effect your "helpful" insights have on me. I'm concerned about whether your comments will drive Barry off, which will have an effect on me.

If putting you on ignore would solve my gripe, I would happily do it. My gripe is that you're going out of your way to correct and make snippy remarks at Barry. I'm afraid that's going to eventually discourage him from posting useful information. If I put you on ignore, and you keep on, I end up losing the content I enjoy (ie. Barry's posts).

If you put Barry on ignore, how is your problem not solved? You don't like what he posts? Don't read it.


Is there folks who like some of the things Barry says? Yes, even though I bash some of the articles, the ones that are reliable are actually ones that I enjoy. But does that mean I need to agree with everything anyone says? No. It's an opinion. As shocking as it may sound, people differ when it comes to them.
Thanks for more "helpful" insight. I wasn't aware that people could come to different opinions. :rolleyes:

The fact that I'm having to tell somebody, who back when post counts were king spammed the forum with years of one line replies in a race to have the highest post count, that another poster shouldn't be hushed for posting articles is amazing to me. It's not my problem to deal with though, and I shouldn't have posted anything. I'll just do what I should have done and use the "report this post" feature from now on, rather than derail this thread any further.

Barry, I enjoy your posts. I hope you disregard the naysayers.

Barry Woodward
03-22-05, 09:12 PM
The Buzz Index @ Yahoo!What a Wonder-ful World

Going to the movies can be a chore. Ticket prices are rising. Parking is a pain. And don't get us started on the "pre-show entertainment." Fortunately, the prospect of seeing a well done (and well hyped) flick helps make up for the sticky floors. Judging from the sudden spike in searches, many movie buffs have high hopes for Wonder Woman. Interest in the Amazon Princess jumped 64% once news broke that Joss Whedon of Buffy fame had been signed to direct the project. Naturally, searches on Whedon surged as well, up 123%.

Now that the director is in place and fans are beginning to salivate, rumors are swirling as to which Hollywood starlet will swing the golden lasso. Whedon implied Morena Baccarin may have the inside track, but will filmgoers go for an unknown? After all, bringing to life the most ogled superhero of all time is a responsibility on par with saving the world.

Source (http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz_log/entry/2005/03/22/1300/)I'm providing some counter claim to the NEWS ARTICLE that barry posted because, as I said, it is taking a situation out of context and creating false rumors that will just blow up much like the tarantino situation.With Joss, it's often hard to tell whether or not he's telling the truth because he wraps most of his comments in jokes. I've read reports of the panel from people I trust that thought there might have been something there even though he was joking around. Of course no one's been picked yet but it's entirely possible that his hints in the panel and in interviews afterward are meant to get Baccarin's name out there in the fan community to gauge their reactions. Either way, she's getting some good press.Barry, I enjoy your posts.Thanks.I hope you disregard the naysayers.I will.

Dead
03-23-05, 07:19 AM
...
If you put Barry on ignore, how is your problem not solved? You don't like what he posts? Don't read it.
...

Jack, this really might be a good idea. It would have kept the previous thread, and probably this one, from spiraling out of control. If you don't like what Barry posts, then just don't read it.

Meatpants
03-23-05, 11:04 AM
:rolleyes:

Anyway..................

http://www.tvguide.com/news/askausiello/

Whedon is months away from finding his ideal Woman. "Everybody is in agreement that casting is not an issue right now," he says. "It's not a vehicle to be built around a particular star. We want to write the thing, find the right character and then figure out who should play her. There are various famous people whose names have come up, because that always happens, but you know, we're talking about Wonder Woman here. Those are tough booties to fill." That said, it sounds like Whedon knows enough about Lynda Carter's successor to rule out Lawless and (sigh) Graham. "I think we will go a little younger than the traditional idea of Wonder Woman," he says, adding that the new Princess Diana will likely be in her early twenties and played by someone outside the Buffyverse. "It's a movie, not a party for my friends."

devilshalo
03-23-05, 12:08 PM
"It's a movie, not a party for my friends."

Hmm.. is this a jab at Kevin Smith? ;)

:lol:

eujin
03-23-05, 03:08 PM
Well, I'm going to throw out a name that has, thus far, gone unmentioned: Alexa Davalos.

+ Points: She's got the right hair color and is ultra-uber-hot. She's a relative unknown and fits Joss's younger Princess Diana comment. She's no stranger to action scenes. And she's also got more of a goddess-like air about her.

- Points: No one's heard of her. Heck, even fanboys haven't mentioned her. She's also from the Buffyverse (ok, Angelverse), although only barely.

Don't get me wrong, if Morena is WW, I'll be thrilled--LOVE that girl. But I think Alexa Davalos would be awesome.

Barry Woodward
03-23-05, 04:20 PM
From MTV News:Joss Whedon Vows He Won't Do Anything Silly With Wonder Woman

"Can I be in your Wonder Woman movie? I'll love you forever."

Joss Whedon had better get used to hearing it, because that question is bound to be ringing in his ears for months to come. It was announced last week that Whedon, whose "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" series paved the butt-kicking babe path for everything from "Underworld" to "Alias," would write and direct the big-screen debut of comicdom's most beloved female superhero.

This time, the question came from actress Jewel Staite at last weekend's Wizard World Los Angeles comic book convention. Waitresses, distant relatives and A-list actresses alike are no doubt practicing their sales pitches as well.

"Originally, I was hesitant," said Whedon, a self-proclaimed comic-book geek. "But then it's also sort of why I became really interested, because she doesn't have so much baggage for me, the way, say, Spider-Man would."

Whedon, selected by über-producer Joel Silver ("The Matrix," "Die Hard") after what seemed like a lifetime of contemplation, admits he's been handed a bicycle with training wheels attached.

"It's been in development for a lot of years. [Silver] called me, and I came in, and when he pitched it, he had a very clear idea of what he wanted to do, which I thought was really smart," Whedon said. "But it was very unformed, and it sort of formed in my brain, and what I began to realize is I had no choice but to write it. Which is a little annoying — I'd like to make my own decisions once in a while, but I couldn't."

Nevertheless, the 40-year-old director of the upcoming "Firefly" rebirth film "Serenity" said he's excited to tackle the back story of the woman in star-spangled panties.

"I think she sort of sprang out fully formed, much like Athena herself. And, you know, it's a question of really getting behind that. ... In the '40s, when it was first done, she came to the world from Paradise Island and then went about her business, and so that experience, which is really a rite of passage, which is the same as any hero has to go through, has never really been investigated the way I want to. So, to take it back to the beginning and really say, 'Well, really, what was it like for an Amazon princess to come amongst us?' "

As for how much he'll draw from the comic books that have been publishing steadily for more than 60 years, well, Whedon says he's never been a huge fan. His superhero familiarity, however, should instill some hope in loyalists. "I mean, I've seen some really good books, some really great work by people — [late-'80s artist/writer] George Perez and [1995-1998 artist/writer] John Byrne, a lot of guys. Obviously, I've seen the [famed female superhero artist] Adam Hughes covers, because who hasn't? But I've seen her more with the [Justice League of America] and stuff like that."

When pressed for details on the iconic Wonder Woman accessories, Whedon acknowledged several, but avoided mention of the invisible jet that was phased out of the comic books years ago. "I have a take on all of them. It has to do with who she is, and they have a certain integrity. I'm not going to do anything silly.

"There's a reason why she has those bracelets," Whedon said, referring to the Amazon wrist armor that represents her tribe's enslavement under Hercules. "There's a reason why she's got the lasso. I think it's going to work out really well."

As for Staite's plea, Whedon wants to tell her and everyone else that he isn't leaning toward any particular actress yet. "No leaning," he promised with a mischievous smile. "I'm standing straight."

Source (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1498869/03222005/story.jhtml)

Jackskeleton
03-24-05, 01:45 AM
Talked to Whedon again tonight and asked him point blank about the Morena situation from the con. He said that at this point he's got no one set for WW and the tie in with Morena was just more of his usual playfulness and he has serenity on his plate for now to worry about before getting into casting.

So. that's my personal take on it. Morena may make a decent choice, but that phase is far from being close.

Rogue588
03-24-05, 02:17 AM
And you did insinuate that he should rethink his twentysomething notion of Diana and it should be a real woman [like Monica] and not some MTV-neophyte...

...right?

Jackskeleton
03-24-05, 04:19 AM
damn straight!

RayChuang
03-25-05, 01:10 AM
Meatpants,

From the article you mentioned, this means Whedon is looking for an unknown actress to play Diana/WW. In my humble opinion, SMART MOVE! :up: Using an unknown actress will ensure that the WW we see on screen will actually be something like we see in the current comics run.

I also agree that since Whedon has mentioned George Peréz's stint as writer for the WW comic book from 1986-1991, that means Whedon may be very interested in doing a WW movie that closely follows Peréz's storyline, another very smart move given some of the very, very best WW comic book issues were done back then. :up: It would be especially fascinating to see the back story of Mindy Mayer, the publicist for WW that met an unfortunate demise due to the demands of Mayer's job.

Rogue588
03-25-05, 03:03 AM
It would be especially fascinating to see the back story of Mindy Mayer, the publicist for WW that met an unfortunate demise due to the demands of Mayer's job.pssst...it's called "Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman". Not "Joss Whedon's Mindy Mayer". :p

Though, I will agree it was a story. Hell, what Peréz did with his entire run was pretty damn good...

RayChuang
03-25-05, 09:54 AM
pssst...it's called "Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman". Not "Joss Whedon's Mindy Mayer". :p


I think that sub-plot story should be in the movie. For one good reason: Whedon has said this movie is about how Diana/WW "adjusts" to the real world, and the Mindy Mayer subplot would make for a fascinating look at how public relations works and how it can all go out of control....

redinger
03-28-05, 11:59 AM
Joss threw another name into the hat.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s4i7743

In a bold move by newly announced writer/producer of the Wonder Woman movie, Joss Whedon revealed he's considering Ben Affleck for the leading role.

"It's no secret that female superhero movies don't fare well at the box office, " commented Whedon at the Comic Book Convention in Los Angeles. "We have to take movies like 'Elektra' and 'Catwoman' and learn from them."

Whedon, who has been approached by every actress from Brittany Murphy to Lucy Lawless to play the role of America's most beloved female superhero, says they're not ready to make the final decision.

"Obviously, we're looking for an Amazonian Princess, so that rules out most of the female actors in Hollywood. We need someone who's big and strong. I see no other option than to cast Ben Affleck. Besides, he was fantastic in DareDevil." said Whedon as he doodled Affleck in red, gold, and blue spandex.

Not everyone is excited about the prospect of Affleck playing Wonder Woman. In fact, some people are downright skeptical.

"I don't see how they're going to make Ben look like a woman." commented David Boreanaz. "There are tons of possible actors that could play Wonder Woman. Take, for example, me. I'm big and tall, too. I could be Wonder Woman. I could, I really could."

Warner Brothers has been considering a Wonder Woman movie for several years; however, they were not able to come up with a plot.

"I want to bring a new approach to the Wonder Woman adventures. Maybe something a little more 'in the now'." explained Whedon. "I'm still working out the details, but maybe Ben, or whoever we choose, doesn't have to look like a woman. Maybe Wonder Woman was really a woman trapped in a man's body. Maybe Wonder Woman is a gorgeous six-foot transvestite. All I know is we have a ways to go on the script."

Affleck's agent refused comment at this time, but did say they will contact us if Ben accepts the role.

Also considered for the leading role are Josh Hartnett, Keanu Reeves, and Morgan Freeman.

Patman
03-28-05, 12:02 PM
"Project Nip/Tuck" anyone?

Xander
03-28-05, 12:32 PM
Joss threw another name into the hat.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s4i7743

In a bold move by newly announced writer/producer of the Wonder Woman movie, Joss Whedon revealed he's considering Ben Affleck for the leading role.

"It's no secret that female superhero movies don't fare well at the box office, " commented Whedon at the Comic Book Convention in Los Angeles. "We have to take movies like 'Elektra' and 'Catwoman' and learn from them."

Whedon, who has been approached by every actress from Brittany Murphy to Lucy Lawless to play the role of America's most beloved female superhero, says they're not ready to make the final decision.

"Obviously, we're looking for an Amazonian Princess, so that rules out most of the female actors in Hollywood. We need someone who's big and strong. I see no other option than to cast Ben Affleck. Besides, he was fantastic in DareDevil." said Whedon as he doodled Affleck in red, gold, and blue spandex.

Not everyone is excited about the prospect of Affleck playing Wonder Woman. In fact, some people are downright skeptical.

"I don't see how they're going to make Ben look like a woman." commented David Boreanaz. "There are tons of possible actors that could play Wonder Woman. Take, for example, me. I'm big and tall, too. I could be Wonder Woman. I could, I really could."

Warner Brothers has been considering a Wonder Woman movie for several years; however, they were not able to come up with a plot.

"I want to bring a new approach to the Wonder Woman adventures. Maybe something a little more 'in the now'." explained Whedon. "I'm still working out the details, but maybe Ben, or whoever we choose, doesn't have to look like a woman. Maybe Wonder Woman was really a woman trapped in a man's body. Maybe Wonder Woman is a gorgeous six-foot transvestite. All I know is we have a ways to go on the script."

Affleck's agent refused comment at this time, but did say they will contact us if Ben accepts the role.

Also considered for the leading role are Josh Hartnett, Keanu Reeves, and Morgan Freeman.


:lol: Joss cracks me up.

riley_dude
03-28-05, 05:03 PM
"It's no secret that female superhero movies don't fare well at the box office, "

They don't do badly because people don't want to see them. They do bad because the scripts are terrible Joss.
Oh and Joss, we don't need Ben to stink up another Superhero movie!!!

Barry Woodward
04-05-05, 04:43 AM
From Superhero Hype:Elfman to Leave Spider-Man Hanging?

Looks like Elfman will follow suit with John Dykstra (who left Spidey3 earlier this year) and take his leave from the Spider-Man franchise. Composer Danny Elfman has cued up much work for 2007 (the year of Spider-Man 3's anticipated release), including the rumor of scoring the movie adaptation of the adventures of the superheroine: Wonder Woman.

After much creative differences between Sam Raimi and Danny Elfman during the post-production of Spider-Man 2, Raimi brought in other composers to complete the unfinished score. One of those composers was Christopher Young, and according to sources close to Raimi and Elfman, it appears that Young will be hired for the job. (on Spidey3)

Elfman is currently working on: The Corpse Bride & Charlie and The Chocolate Factory for Tim Burton.

Source (http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=2806)

devilshalo
04-05-05, 08:49 AM
From Superhero Hype:
Good riddance to Elfman... I got tired of hearing his Bat-tlejuice score on Spidey. Sorry I'll have to hear it now on the Wonder Woman score. :mad:

Barry Woodward
04-22-05, 10:18 PM
From CHUD:WONDERING ABOUT WONDER WOMAN?

You're probably saying to yourself, "Hey self, what's up with Wonder Woman these days?" Thanks to Mr. Russ Fischer, in LA for the House of Wax junket, you now have some small modicum of an answer.

Joel Silver was there, since he produced House of Wax, and he also happens to be producing Wonder Woman, so our intrepid journalist took an opportunity to pick the man's brain about the Amazonian adaptation:

Q: Can you give us a quick update on Wonder Woman?

Joel Silver: We made a deal with Joss Whedon, he's on board. He's finishing Serenity, and when that's done, he's going to start writing the script. He has fantastic ideas, and the things he's told me I can't wait for. He really has a feel for the character. it's a full-on origin story, and it's really good. when we have a script, then we'll deal with the casting.

Q: Will it be an unknown?

Joel Silver: I don't know which way we're going to go, but when we see a script, we'll make a decision.

A full-on origin story is interesting, since that would seem to indicate that some reasonable amount of time is going to be spent on Paradise Island, at least going by the more modern iterations of Wonder Woman's origin. More of a focus on the fantasy/mythology element of the character would be interesting, and definitely set it apart from the recent failed sister superheroes.

Source (http://chud.com/news/2616)

Fok
04-23-05, 03:09 AM
hopefully he doesn't fuck it up

Gizmo
04-23-05, 10:55 AM
Well, considering how well written Serenity was (And Buffy/Angel/Firefly), I don't think he will 'fuck this up'. What script has he actually written besides Serenity? I know Alien Ressurection, but didn't he have VERY little input in it?

Jay G.
04-23-05, 04:38 PM
What script has he actually written besides Serenity? I know Alien Ressurection, but didn't he have VERY little input in it?
He did extensive rewrites for the movie Speed, although he wasn't credited. He also did a little writing for Toy Story.

He did a draft for the film X-Men, although very little of it ended up in the final film. Likewise with his rewrites for Titan AE.

Of course, he also wrote the screenplay for the Buffy, The Vampire Slayer film, although he is unhappy with the way his script was handled, especially how Donald Sutherland rewriting all his character's lines.

Joss's first script for Alien Ressurection was supposidly pretty good. Unfortunately studio meddling demanded several rewrites, while Director Jean-Pierre Jeunet played liberally with it during shooting.

So far, we haven't really had a film that's really representative of his writing abilities.

Third Baseman
04-24-05, 01:46 PM
Ben Afflack for Wonder Woman!

redinger
04-25-05, 11:27 AM
Ben Afflack for Wonder Woman!

Joss is a very progressive thinking individual.

B4Bishop
04-25-05, 03:21 PM
doesn't matter, the suits will take control and Wonder Woman will be a lesbian with a pet turtle that she takes from Paradise Island. It'll be ALL about the toys.

Jackskeleton
05-04-05, 05:55 PM
Got this reaction from the latest wizard and Joss from the last serenity screening..

http://img105.echo.cx/img105/2460/wizardwhedon3ug.jpg

So you can rule out the following

Eva Longoria
Catherine Bell
Mischa Barton
SMG
Monica Bellucci :(
Evangeline Lilly (while hot, doesn't have her bust or an open schedule to shoot)
Jessica Biel
Taylor Cole
Morena Baccarin

devilshalo
05-04-05, 06:18 PM
Hahahaha :lol:

Super X
05-05-05, 07:43 PM
Got this reaction from the latest wizard and Joss from the last serenity screening..

http://img105.echo.cx/img105/2460/wizardwhedon3ug.jpg

So you can rule out the following

Eva Longoria
Catherine Bell
Mischa Barton
SMG
Monica Bellucci :(
Evangeline Lilly (while hot, doesn't have her bust or an open schedule to shoot)
Jessica Biel
Taylor Cole
Morena Baccarin

Sure he wasn't just talking about the cover girls?

Jackskeleton
05-05-05, 08:05 PM
Well he told me when I asked him about it that he saw the magazine on the wednesday before when it was released and never got any phone call about the article or anything like that. Add to that the "but you're all very nice" comment was made when he flipped through the section again shaking his head.

So I would say he was refering to everyone that wizard pointed out.

Rogue588
05-05-05, 10:29 PM
Yes, but the page with Monica was sticky....right? ;)

clemente
05-05-05, 10:44 PM
I hadn't even thought about Catherine Bell...except for the fact that she may be too old to build a franchise around, she would('ve?)' be a solid choice.

I'm sure Whedon will get some say, but I don't think Silver's the kind of guy to defer to someone else if he sees something a certain way, so it could very well be someone that Whedon has nixed publically.

Gil Jawetz
05-08-05, 09:59 PM
All the picks so far have been lame. I can't remember if I said it in here or not but the best choice for a really awesome, different, fun and funny Wonder Woman is Lauren Graham.

http://www.tccandler.com/images/actresses/lauren_graham_HQ_headshot_3.jpg

Patman
05-08-05, 11:50 PM
Not enough in the physicality department, but 5 years ago, she'd been a cool Lois Lane, though.

Barry Woodward
06-15-05, 06:56 PM
An interesting interview of Morena Baccarin:

http://www.iesb.net/video/morenabaccarintpm.wmv

HN
07-10-05, 04:16 AM
another vote for lauren graham

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1704/laurengraham010ps.jpg

RogueScribner
07-10-05, 06:46 AM
Isn't she a bit old?

Gil Jawetz
07-10-05, 11:03 AM
ha! Not at all. If they had vision and didn't go the same route as every other cookie-cutter superhero movie being made now, they could really make something unique and fun with Graham. And when they announced this project a while back they said that one of the directions they might go would be to do a slightly older WW with Kim Basinger. Well! She's no fun and she has no fans. They might as well go with Graham in that case! It would be awesome.

scott shelton
07-10-05, 12:01 PM
Isn't she a bit old?

I'm sure to the studios. But she's a perfect choice.

Jackskeleton
07-10-05, 02:07 PM
exactly. the studios may want to appeal to a younger demo, but really... even if she's older, who wont think she's hot in WW's outfit?

Gil Jawetz
07-10-05, 03:09 PM
:lol: I love that I posted LG in this thread back in May and now all the closet fans are coming out of the woodwork. Well, considering that that was just dream casting and not based on any actual rumors, prepare to be disapponted.

LivingINClip
07-10-05, 05:37 PM
She's beyond yummy.

Red Dog
07-10-05, 06:11 PM
I see Lauren Graham dispensing one-liners about 80s pop culture, not throwing magic lassos. I still say Catherine Bell.

Patman
07-10-05, 06:31 PM
Catherine Bell is closer to 40 than she is to 30. It'll probably never happen.

The same holds true for Lauren Graham.

LorenzoL
07-10-05, 09:50 PM
I believe that the role of Wonder Woman has to go to an "older" actress for this role. They can't make the mistake of making this character younger like they did with the Invisible Woman role in Fantastic Four.

Rogue588
07-10-05, 10:09 PM
With the way everything seems to be mass marketed to the "young'uns", I would expect one of the Olsen twins to play Diana.

Other than that, any suggestions other than Monica is just crazytalk.

Terrell
07-10-05, 10:45 PM
http://img2.exs.cx/img2/8946/WW164.jpg

The day I see a woman look this hot, I'm proposing. I've seen many stunningly beautiful women, but comic book women like that just take hotness to an entirely new level.

As for the film, this will be incredibly difficult to pull off well.

Giantrobo
07-10-05, 11:18 PM
I read in Wizard magazine July 2005 #165 pg. 71 that Whedon isn't going to give her the traditional costume. He said that he's going to take away the "Stars and Stripes", "put more Greek and leather", and no panties. He did say he'll keep the color and basic elements....

Jackskeleton
07-27-05, 12:20 PM
Looks like someone made her intentions known


http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/story.asp?j=150815014&p=y5x8y57zx
Beckinsale wants to play Wonder Woman


27/07/2005 - 11:43:43 British actress Kate Beckinsale wants to play Wonder Woman in the upcoming movie adaptation of the classic 1970s TV series.

British actress Kate Beckinsale wants to play Wonder Woman in the upcoming movie adaptation of the classic 1970s TV series.

The Van Helsing beauty has been practising - she dressed up as the superheroine last year for Hallowe'en - and she hopes Buffy the Vampire Slayer creator Joss Whedon will cast her in the prestigious role.

She says: "I dressed up as her last Hallowe'en so it would be good to do it again."

LorenzoL
07-27-05, 12:22 PM
I'm not sure if Beckinsale has the "right" look to play an Amazon princess.

Cellar Door
07-27-05, 12:36 PM
I think Kate would be great!

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/186/984/1024/Kate_Beckinsale.jpg

Kal-El
07-27-05, 12:43 PM
Isn't she too petite to play an Amazon?

Jackskeleton
07-27-05, 01:02 PM
But dude, she dressed up as wonder woman for Halloween. That alone qualifies her... -rolleyes-

Kal-El
07-27-05, 01:06 PM
:lol: at Jack.
Well, it did work for this guy:
http://routh-brandon.celebrityblog.net/manual/routh-brandon/routh-brandon-2-high.jpg

darqleo
07-27-05, 02:24 PM
Kate's too short (although she is 5'8", but looks petite and fragile) and looks uncomfortable doing action scenes (re: UNDERWORLD).

Stop the nonsense, sign Monica Belucci already, geezus....

The Valeyard
07-27-05, 03:58 PM
Kate's too short (although she is 5'8", but looks petite and fragile) and looks uncomfortable doing action scenes (re: UNDERWORLD).

Well, Elijah Wood was too tall to play a Hobbit and that didn't stop 'em.

:)

Stop the nonsense, sign Monica Belucci already, geezus....

Yeah. She does fit the look....

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/3462/detailww8ol.jpg


But my first pick is always gonna be.....

http://home.iprimus.com.au/rennyr/catherineasWW.jpg


Andrew

mrhan
07-27-05, 04:31 PM
I read in Wizard magazine July 2005 #165 pg. 71 that Whedon isn't going to give her the traditional costume. He said that he's going to take away the "Stars and Stripes", "put more Greek and leather", and no panties. He did say he'll keep the color and basic elements....

That reminds me of that damn WW TV from 1974 where they changed everything.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072419/

riley_dude
07-27-05, 06:34 PM
Lynda Carter was recently interviewed on Darkhorizons and her thought was Zeta Jones and Sandra Bullock were too old.

I think they should cast Carter as Diana's mother on Paradise Island.

Xander
07-28-05, 12:29 PM
(snip) ...and no panties.

Woo-hoo! Diana's going commando.

Rogue588
07-28-05, 02:40 PM
Stop the nonsense, sign Monica Belucci already, geezus....For real, man.

It's amazing this fascination Hollywood has with selling things to "Youth" [yes, I realize about "marketing", "demographics", blah, blah, blah..], but it's amazing that films were able to do well before execs intentionally started skewing youthful. Here's a hint at what age the MAIN character should be:

Her name is Wonder WOMAN.

If you want a young chick, starring any of these chicks being named, make a Donna Troy movie [Wonder Girl, for those of you that might not know...].

Jago
07-28-05, 04:53 PM
It's definitely going to be a younger actress. Expect someone still in their 20's. The studio will be planning for a franchise so older women are out of the question. It's the same reason Bryan Singer cast Bosworth as Lois.

Jackskeleton
07-28-05, 06:54 PM
You have to look at the demo of who is actually going to the movies and then you can easily assume that it dictates that Wonder Woman be younger than Monica (which is sad, since she's great) besides that, WB is thinking franchise and you really can't do that with older actors and still maintain the whole age look.

mrhan
07-28-05, 09:26 PM
Maybe this is the look Whedon is going for with her costume.

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=96911632384%20198

Giantrobo
07-28-05, 11:06 PM
Jenniffer Connelly as WW....

http://www.enworld.org/Pozas/Pictures/Superheroes/ww_connelly.jpg

Giantrobo
07-28-05, 11:14 PM
... but it's amazing that films were able to do well before execs intentionally started skewing youthful.




Uhm, sorry but when was that? Since its beginning Hollywood, just like Society in general, has always put BEAUTY on a pedestal and YOUTH is generally associated with beauty.

Jackskeleton
07-29-05, 01:17 AM
They also put being thin on the pedestal of Beauty, g-robo. ;)

MartinBlank
07-29-05, 02:03 AM
Not to mention she's already ruined two comic book heroines already.
:D


Third time's the charm?;)

Giantrobo
07-29-05, 05:54 AM
They also put being thin on the pedestal of Beauty, g-robo. ;)

:grunt: :p

LorenzoL
08-01-05, 10:51 AM
Here's a link to an interview with Josh Whedon for In Focus magazine. A lot of topics covered including Wonder Woman. I have quoted the Wonder Woman part.

http://www.infocusmag.com/05augustseptember/whedonuncut.htm

V. WONDER WOMAN:
Flight and Height

- I understand you’ve not yet written a word of the “Wonder Woman” screenplay.
Not too many words.

- Did you tell Warner Bros. you weren’t keen to deal with it until “Serenity” enters release?
Not release. It’s not that I haven’t been working on it.

- You have been working on it?
The way I work, I’m like a vulture. I circle and circle and then I dive. I usually don’t actually write anything until I know exactly how it’s going to turn out. I don’t “let the computer take me away.” I’m an absolute Nazi about structure. I make outlines. I make charts and graphs with colors.

- You’ve done that for “Wonder Woman”?
Not for “Wonder Woman,” because I’m still working out the plot. But I’m finding the moments that matter; I’m finding the things that make the story really resonate; the things that I just can’t wait to film. I have great big questions to answer, but I’m in that beautiful, free-form poetical place where you just get to think up moments and see if they fit in your movie. And that’s almost more fun than anything. And that work, which is a vital part of what got me interested in doing the job in the first place, is being done.

But I do have to see “Serenity” through. I’ll be finished with the movie within a month but I have to make sure it gets taken care of all the way through release. I have, in the past, found that I was able to do more than one thing at a time.

- Will Diana be able to fly under her own power, or will an invisible plane be involved?
I do not believe she will be flying. I think we have a guy who flies. I don’t see her flying. She might jump. There could be some hopping. And there may in fact be an invisible plane. But if there is, it will be because it came out really cool. And I have theories about how to make that work.

- You’ve said there will be “no star-spangled panties” like the ones Lynda Carter wore in the old TV series. Are you ruling out star-spangled miniskirts?
Not exactly. The look that she’s sporting in DC Comics right now is closer to where I’d have her than the TV series, or the old look. The color scheme and the silhouette have to remain because they’re her. But the American flag is not what she’s going to be wearing.

- So you’re not ruling out minis?
No. She’s still going to look like Wonder Woman. She’s not going to look like Trinity. She’s going to look like Wonder Woman, but she’s just not going to be hokey.

- In the teaser poster the eagle remains on her chestplate.
The eagle is OK with me. Because it’s not like we invented them. It’s a lot less to swallow than the fact that Jor-El wears a big “S.” That bugged me.

- As you go about casting Diana, do you set a height requirement? How important is it that the Amazon princess be tall?
It’s important. I’m looking for somebody statuesque, regal, beautiful, who can really act and do a lot of stunts with no elbow or knee pads. I’m asking a lot. So if I happen to find all those qualities in somebody who does not quite meet my height requirement, I will be casting some really short love interest. The height is definitely a part of the package. But the most important part? No. And the fact of the matter is, a woman stands as tall as she makes you think she is. For example, I always thought [“Buffy” writer-producer] Marti Noxon was four inches taller than she actually was. I just found that out last week.

- “Wonder Woman” producer Joel Silver prides himself on his casting acumen. Has he yet offered any suggestions?
No. You know, we talked specifically about that. And the idea was always, “Write the part, and then we’ll figure it out.”

- You’ve also talked about her being very young. Are you thinking college-age? Teen-ager?
I’d say that’s a pretty flexible thing because it’s her first time setting foot in the world of men. But that doesn’t necessarily mean she has to be a teen-ager. So, yes, they are thinking of a young woman. They’re thinking, I expect, of something franchise-able.

- Will it be appropriate to describe the “Wonder Woman” movie as a fish-out-of-water tale?
I would say very much so.

- Will this be one of the key ways it distinguishes itself from other superhero movies?
Yes, I think so. Ultimately, structurally, yes, that’s a big distinguishing factor, but I think there will be other elements that are specific to her. But then again, I haven’t seen the new “Batman” and I haven’t seen the script for “Supes” [Warner Bros.’ upcoming “Superman Returns” feature].

- Will Diana contend with a print-derived supervillain?
At this point I’m looking at creating something a little different. I don’t think her rogues gallery necessarily offers me what I need. But that’s not a final decision, that’s just my instinct.

Barry Woodward
07-22-06, 11:22 PM
From SuperHeroHype.com:Exclusive: Joel Silver on Wonder Woman

We've already heard repeatedly from producer Joel Silver that Joss Whedon had turned in an approved script for Wonder Woman, but we never have learned why Silver decided to pursue the rights to the DC Comics character created by William Marston, or why he picked Joss Whedon to direct it, for that matter.

In this exclusive interview with ComingSoon.net/SuperheroHype.com from the San Diego Comic-Con, where Silver was promoting his latest horror thriller The Reaping starring Hilary Swank, we asked him some of those unasked questions.

"It was after I made 'The Matrix' when I saw the response of the first tests and I realized the Trinity character was the highest-tested character," he told us. "This was before they had done 'Charlie's Angels' or 'Elektra' or any of these movies, and I thought, 'Let's just go out and try to make Wonder Woman work,' and I could never find a script that I liked, but we're close now."

And what made him think of getting Joss Whedon to write and direct it? "I just thought he would be the perfect guy to write it. I love Buffy and he's a great writer. I sat down with him and asked if he'd do it, and he wrote me a note where he passed, and in the note, he explained what the movie had to be. There was no way I was going to let him pass, so I hammered him until he said, 'Yes.'"

When asked about the general take that Joss took with the movie, Silver explained, "It's the origin story. It has mythology. Steve Trevor crashes on the island and they go back to Man's World."

"We have a script and we know where we're going," he responded when asked about where they are in the casting process. "She'll probably be someone you never saw before, because she's very young, but I think we'll have a good time with it."

Silver also responded to whether he has any worries about making the movie after the weak box office openings for other movies based on the big DC characters like Batman Begins and Superman Returns. "I love Batman and Superman, I love them both," he said. "I'm just trying to get the best version of the movie that I can. It's the trifecta. Those are the three oaks of DC Comics. I mean, Marvel Comics have tended to be hipper and cooler in many ways because they were designed to react against the DC Comics, but the DC Comics characters were the real deal, so we're trying to get this right."

Source (http://superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4543)From Empire Online:Comic-Con: Joel Silver On Wonder Woman
Project is going ahead, says producer

So… Batman’s Begun. Superman’s Returned. Now, we’re all wondering when we’re going to see, erm, Wonder Woman Begin To Return to the silver screen. OK, let’s just make that plain old Wonder Woman, the last member of DC’s Big Three (sorry Green Lantern) to be turned into a movie.

It seems like Joss Whedon has been working on the script (which he plans to direct) forever. But lately some rumours have sprung up that all was not well on the project, that Warner Bros. were not overly happy with the direction in which Whedon was taking the character… and that the plug might be pulled.

Not so, though, according to producer Joel Silver, who spoke briefly with Empire about the project at the San Diego Comic-Con.

“It’s real, but it’s not real yet. Joss has done a great job on the draft and now he’s tweaking it a little bit so we can give it to the studio in two weeks,” said Silver. “And if they believe in it in the way that we think they will, then we’ll be talking about that movie next year.”

All of which means that it’s early days – didn’t stop us asking about casting, though, especially with Hilary Swank, who’d be a good choice to fill the hotpants of the super-powered Amazonian princess, present in the room at that time (she was there with Silver to promote their new horror movie, The Reaping). But Silver says that he’s looking for a younger star, a la Brandon Routh in Superman Returns.

“We’re not there yet,” he added. “It’s an origin story so it’s gotta be a young girl. I don’t know if you’ll have heard of her before, but she’s gotta be young. But I don’t think Linda Carter’s available!

“I think that Wonder Woman is one of the three original oaks of the firmament of superheroes,” continued Silver. “Marvel Comics are a whole another arena – but I think we can pull it off. I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t think we could.”

Source (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=19175)From iFMagazine:JOEL SILVER TALKS WONDER WOMAN
The producer hopes to be at Comic-Con next year to talk about moving forward with Joss Whedon's production on the Amazonian comic book adaptation

The new horror film THE REAPING starring Hilary Swank and directed by Stephen Hopkins is due out November 8, and producer Joel Silver talked about this highly unusual Dark Castle film at Comic-Con today.

However, conversation quickly turned to another female driven film Silver is guiding – the movie adaptation of WONDER WOMAN by Joss Whedon.

"Joss is getting closer on the script," reveals Silver. "When we have a good script we all like, at that point the studio will agree to make it and we’ll go from there. He’s doing a good job. He’s utilizing the lore of the material and it’s an origin story, so you’re dealing with the origin of the story. He’s a very talented writer and he has a great story and ideas and moving our way toward making the movie and maybe next year we can start talking about the movie here."

For Silver, the biggest challenge of bringing WONDER WOMAN to the screen is finding a movie that works not only for fans, but for mainstream audiences as well.

"It’s finding the kind of movie that will appeal to everyone," says Silver. "It has to work , and it has to have a good character in WONDER WOMAN and be clever and it has to draw you in. Of these three [D.C.] characters. Superman is an alien, Batman is a tough guy and Wonder Woman is a goddess, so you have to work your way through the process."

And while speculation as to who will play the Amazonian goddess has been heating up even before a script is delivered, Silver reveals that there are more benefits to casting an unknown in the lead.

"Probably," he says. "She’s young, I don’t think it can be someone you’ve heard of. Once we have the template of the girl, we’ll be able to find her."

Source (http://www.ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=1583)

The Cow
07-22-06, 11:50 PM
From SuperHeroHype.com:From Empire Online:From iFMagazine:
All of that seems to go into a "blah, blah, yadda, yadda". Essentially saying nothing. I'll be surprised if this ever happens.

Peep
07-23-06, 12:08 PM
All of that seems to go into a "blah, blah, yadda, yadda". Essentially saying nothing. I'll be surprised if this ever happens.

Well, it's not like he approached the press with news to tell. A bunch of comic book geeks pressured him for news and he gave them all he had. The movie will eventually get made. The studio is in no real hurry. They need a "good" script that they can get done cheap.

clemente
07-23-06, 11:58 PM
It could be several years before we see this one, I only wish Joss Whedon wasn't so tied to it, so he could do something in the meantime.

Duh Vuh Duh
09-06-06, 11:56 AM
Some casting rumors, didn't know who she was then googled her and damn...

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/?cmsGuid={E882AF71-8A9B-4A2C-8781-2F480C8A38E5}



edit: don't know why the link wont work, just copy and paste.

Jay G.
09-06-06, 12:53 PM
edit: don't know why the link wont work, just copy and paste.
Here's a working version of the link:


http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/?cmsGuid={E882AF71-8A9B-4A2C-8781-2F480C8A38E5} (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/?cmsGuid={E882AF71-8A9B-4A2C-8781-2F480C8A38E5})

Obey The D
09-06-06, 01:24 PM
When I saw this got bumped I figured it would be people talking about the McPhee (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,211216,00.html) rumors. That would be an absolute joke if it came to fruition.

LorenzoL
09-14-06, 11:03 AM
I don't know if this is a reputable source (bangshowbiz.biz???) but they are indicating that Rachel Bilson (The OC) will play Wonder Woman in the new feature movie.

http://www.pr-inside.com/the-o-c-star-rachel-bilson-is-reportedly-set-to-play-wonder-woman-in-the-new-r18553.htm

Just let me say that if true, I love Rachel Bilson and her character of Summer was the only reason that I watched the first two seasons of the OC but there is no way that she can be described as an Amazon Princess. She's tiny!!!

Link to youtube which feature her scene as Wonder Woman in an episode of the OC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FppQWpJImos

Jay G.
09-14-06, 12:20 PM
I don't know if this is a reputable source (bangshowbiz.biz???) but they are indicating that Rachel Bilson (The OC) will play Wonder Woman in the new feature movie.

http://www.pr-inside.com/the-o-c-star-rachel-bilson-is-reportedly-set-to-play-wonder-woman-in-the-new-r18553.htm

From that article:
"Producers Warner Bros. have so far refused to confirm reports Bilson has landed the role."

So nothing official so far.

leacha
09-14-06, 12:22 PM
It's gotta be wrong. She's going to have 6 inch heals on her boots to at least be tall enough!

Iron_Giant
09-14-06, 04:59 PM
I don't know if this is a reputable source (bangshowbiz.biz???) but they are indicating that Rachel Bilson (The OC) will play Wonder Woman in the new feature movie.

http://www.pr-inside.com/the-o-c-star-rachel-bilson-is-reportedly-set-to-play-wonder-woman-in-the-new-r18553.htm

Just let me say that if true, I love Rachel Bilson and her character of Summer was the only reason that I watched the first two seasons of the OC but there is no way that she can be described as an Amazon Princess. She's tiny!!!

Link to youtube which feature her scene as Wonder Woman in an episode of the OC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FppQWpJImos
5' 3½" Tall, now that is not the Wonder Woman I know of in the Comics or on TV in the 70s.

Iron_Giant
09-14-06, 05:04 PM
When I saw this got bumped I figured it would be people talking about the McPhee (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,211216,00.html) rumors. That would be an absolute joke if it came to fruition.
She does has the Size for the role and would fill out the custome in a nice way, and I say that as a complement to her.

No would take her serious in the role, it would be the Kiss of death for the movie (dare I say Catwoman type of Death).

It should be somewhat unknown for the role.

Patman
09-14-06, 07:34 PM
Maybe in "Wonder Woman: The Musical" would McPhee be a viable candidate.

clemente
09-14-06, 08:00 PM
If they cast the entire with midgets than maybe....I'm not a member of the comic book-istas who insist that every detail be perfect (get over the fact that Hugh Jackman is tall, he owns that role), but that chick is to short.

Wonder Woman has to be a physical presence. You can cheat thing some, see any Tom Cruise action movie, but you can't cheat 5'3" - unless you have lots of midgets.

devilshalo
02-02-07, 06:12 PM
February 03 2007
SATIN TIGHTS NO LONGER. Joss will not be fighting for our rights after all.

You (hopefully) heard it here first: I'm no longer slated to make Wonder Woman. What? But how? My chest... so tight! Okay, stay calm and I'll explain as best I can. It's pretty complicated, so bear with me. I had a take on the film that, well, nobody liked. Hey, not that complicated.

Let me stress first that everybody at the studio and Silver Pictures were cool and professional. We just saw different movies, and at the price range this kind of movie hangs in, that's never gonna work. Non-sympatico. It happens all the time. I don't think any of us expected it to this time, but it did. Everybody knows how long I was taking, what a struggle that script was, and though I felt good about what I was coming up with, it was never gonna be a simple slam-dunk. I like to think it rolled around the rim a little bit, but others may have differing views.

The worst thing that can happen in this scenario is that the studio just keeps hammering out changes and the writer falls into a horrible limbo of development. These guys had the clarity and grace to skip that part. So I'm a free man.

Well, sorta. There is that "Goners" movie I can finally finish polishing, and plenty of other things in the hopper I've wanted to pursue. I'm as relieved as I am disappointed, and both of those things lead to drink, so that's a plus. Truly, you may be hearing some interesting things brewing in the coming months. But all potential jets therein will be visible.

But most importantly, I never have to answer THAT question again!!!! And you don't have to link to every rumor site! Finally and forever: I never had an actress picked out, or even a consistant front-runner. I didn't have time to waste on casting when I was so busy air-balling on the script. (No! Rim! There was rim!) That's the greatest relief of all. I can do interviews again!

Thanks for your time. You are the people who make the world go 'round. Or, no, science does that.

-j.

ps All right, it was Cobie Smulders. Sorry, Cobes.
--------------------------------

Mods, I guess we can remove the Joss Whedon part from the thread title...

RichC2
02-02-07, 06:52 PM
Can't say I'm too sad, always found the guy's writing a bit... amateurish.

But do realize he has his fans.

Rizor
02-02-07, 07:12 PM
Hmmm. Interesting. I like Whedon's work. No, actually I love most of his stuff, I'm just not as rabid as some of his other fans. Anyway, the sense of loss has not really hit me since I never really heard any rumors regarding plot or anything. It just sounds like something that didn't pan out. It would've been interesting to see Whedon's take, but it's all good. Hopefully they don't bring someone like Brett Ratner in though. :)

DVD Josh
02-02-07, 07:44 PM
Can't say I'm too sad, always found the guy's writing a bit... amateurish.

But do realize he has his fans.

I find it funny that someone could be looking forward to "wonder woman" and have the complaint that the writer is "amateurish".

Patman
02-02-07, 09:28 PM
I wouldn't mind Cobie Smulders as WW, she was on my short list as well. She's got a good face for WW (with proper make-up, etc.)

RichC2
02-02-07, 09:35 PM
I find it funny that someone could be looking forward to "wonder woman" and have the complaint that the writer is "amateurish".

I'm actually not particularly looking forward to it :P Just commenting that it doesn't sway me in either direction.

Giantrobo
02-02-07, 11:45 PM
No loss to me.

madcougar
02-03-07, 06:19 PM
I seriously thought I was the only person who thought Smulders would be an incredible WW.

Ranger
02-03-07, 06:56 PM
When I first heard that Whedon was on the project, I always had a hard time believing that he would be able to pull it off somehow.

Whedon has more important things to work on - his comics. :)

riley_dude
02-05-07, 11:28 AM
Can't say I'm too sad, always found the guy's writing a bit... amateurish.

But do realize he has his fans.
And what are you basing this opinion on? I am curious? Have you watched other projects of his or is this just an assumption?

Sorry to hear Joss won't be involved with the project. I am sure the studio will be more comfortable with some conventional stuff like Fantastic 4 or Daredevil. Stuff that plays better to the mass markets.

Kal-El
02-05-07, 11:57 AM
No big loss.

devilshalo
02-05-07, 12:15 PM
Whedon exits 'Wonder' picBy Borys Kit and Tatiana Siegel

Feb 5, 2007

Joss Whedon, who had been developing a big-screen adaptation of DC Comics superhero Wonder Woman for Warner Bros. Pictures and Silver Pictures, parted ways with the studio and production company on the project.

Whedon announced the news Friday on a fansite, chalking it up to creative differences. "I had a take on the film that, well, nobody liked," he wrote on www.whedonesque.com. Studio and agency sources confirmed the development.

The latest setback on "Wonder Woman," which has gone through a long gestation process, underlines the difficulties studios encounter when developing such marquee pop culture titles.

Over at Paramount Pictures, for example, there is now a question whether J.J. Abrams will direct "Star Trek XI." The studio insists that the "Lost" creator was never officially attached to direct the film, only to produce it. However, in July, upon announcing Abrams' film production pact with Paramount, then-studio president Gail Berman said Abrams was on board to direct the next installment in the sci-fi franchise and that it would be his first project under the new feature deal.

Although Paramount is hopeful that Abrams will captain the Starship Enterprise, sources said the director likely will make his decision later this week.

Several directors -- Tim Burton, Brett Ratner and McG -- were involved in developing what ultimately became "Superman Returns" before Bryan Singer took the helm. More recently, Jon Favreau surrendered the reins of Paramount's "John Carter of Mars," which has since landed at Pixar, in favor of Marvel's "Iron Man." And Shawn Levy has just stepped in to direct "The Flash," with which David Goyer had been involved.

In the case of "Wonder Woman," "We just saw different movies, and at the price range this kind of movie hangs in, that's never gonna work," Whedon said in his post to his fans. "Non-sympatico. It happens all the time. I don't think any of us expected it to this time, but it did. Everybody knows how long I was taking, what a struggle that script was, and though I felt good about what I was coming up with, it was never gonna be a simple slam-dunk. I like to think it rolled around the rim a little bit, but others may have differing views."

Whedon, who came on board the project in March 2005, was paid $2 million-$3 million to develop and write the adaptation, which Joel Silver is producing. He also was attached to direct. His involvement had looked like it would finally move the project forward. Whedon, the creator of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," was seen as someone who could crack the challenge of making a female superhero movie work, especially one that involved a magic lasso, bullet-deflecting bracelets, an invisible jet and a bathing suit-like costume.

But rumors of script issues intensified last week when Warners bought a "Wonder Woman" spec script from newcomers Matthew Jennison and Brent Strickland that the two wrote on spec as a writing sample to win other assignments. Even though the studio said it was taking the spec off the market to protect itself against the possibility that any similarities between the scripts could be fodder for future legal action, it clearly liked certain elements in the new screenplay (HR 2/1).

Whedon's take on the Amazonian princess set the tale in the present. In contrast, Jennison and Strickland's script is set during World War II, the era when the character was created. However, sources said that Silver and the studio are not interested in making a period picture.

"The worst thing that can happen in this scenario is that the studio just keeps hammering out changes and the writer falls into a horrible limbo of development," Whedon wrote. "(Warners and Silver) had the clarity and grace to skip that part. So I'm a free man."

CAA-repped Whedon still has plenty to keep him occupied. He is working on "Goners," a thriller he is attached to direct for Universal Pictures; will be taking over writing chores on "Runaways," a comic series about super-powered teens, for Marvel Comics; and is overseeing a new story line of "Buffy" for Dark Horse Comics.

Puzznic
02-05-07, 02:47 PM
I hope whatever Joss wrote up to this point is leaked somehow. I would love to read it.

Groucho
02-05-07, 02:53 PM
I like the WW2 era idea a lot.

MrE
02-05-07, 03:01 PM
Think "Sky Captain ..." and you're halfway there.

JIF
02-07-07, 01:26 PM
I hope that they seriously think about Cobie Smulders for Wonder Woman. She definitely has the look. So does Rachel Weisz for that matter, but she comes with a big price tag.

Breakfast with Girls
02-07-07, 05:51 PM
I like the WW2 era idea a lot.That's what Captain America is for.

devilshalo
11-10-08, 01:40 PM
Beyonce: I Want To Play Wonder Woman!
November 7, 2008
LOS ANGELES, Calif. --

Beyonce wants to be a superhero.

The pop star, whose new album, “I Am… Sasha Fierce,” is due Nov. 18, has told the Los Angeles Times that she wants to play Wonder Woman on the big screen.

“I want to do a superhero movie and what would be better than Wonder Woman?” she asked the newspaper. “It would be great. And it would be a very bold choice. A black Wonder Woman would be a powerful thing. It’s time for that, right?” -rolleyes-

And she’s not just talking about it – the “Cadillac Records” and “Dreamgirls” star has reportedly met with representatives of DC Comics and Warner Bros. regarding the iconic comic book character, an Amazon warrior who wields a golden lasso that makes tied-up villains tell the truth.

“I love Wonder Woman and it’d be a dream come true to be that character,” she said. “It sure would be handy to have that lasso. To make everybody tell the truth? I need that. It would come in very handy.”

According to Beyonce, her recent dramatic roles have made her interested in donning Wonder Woman’s red-white-and-blue bathing suit.

“After doing these roles that were so emotional I was thinking to myself, ‘OK, I need to be a superhero,’” she said. “Although, when you think about the psychology of the heroes in the films these days, they are still a lot of work, of course, and emotional. But there’s also an action element that I would enjoy.”

While Wonder Woman has never reached the big screen, Beyonce said the Lynda Carter-starring ‘70s TV series inspired her.

“I would definitely have to keep it right for that costume,” she said of Lynda’s legendary outfit.

Getting Wonder Woman to the movies would be another breakthrough for Beyonce — while “The Dark Knight” broke box office records this year with another DC hero, Batman, the superhero genre has been dominated by men, with “Catwoman” and “Elektra” both box office disappointments despite star power from Halle Berry and Jennifer Garner, respectively.

The Valeyard
11-10-08, 02:40 PM
-ohbfrank-

Sanjuro37
11-10-08, 03:06 PM
“I would definitely have to keep it right for that costume,” she said of Lynda’s legendary outfit.


Yes, Beyonce, the costume is what makes the movie.

Sanjuro37
11-10-08, 03:06 PM
“I would definitely have to keep it right for that costume,” she said of Lynda’s legendary outfit.


Yes, Beyonce, the costume is what makes the movie.

stingermck
11-10-08, 03:13 PM
Damn, she can't even keep it real?

OldBoy
11-10-08, 03:39 PM
i don't understand, isn't Wonder Woman a traditonally white character and isn't Beyonce traditionally black?

Kocheese99
11-10-08, 04:35 PM
i don't understand, isn't Wonder Woman a traditonally white character and isn't Beyonce traditionally black?

Well i guess they could just use some CGI, somebody get Lucas on the phone!

fumanstan
11-10-08, 04:37 PM
i don't understand, isn't Wonder Woman a traditonally white character and isn't Beyonce traditionally black?

It's ok, we have a black president now.

riley_dude
11-10-08, 04:40 PM
Bad idea. Horrible idea. She going to sing the theme song too?

OldBoy
11-10-08, 05:46 PM
It's ok, we have a black president now.

so that means we have to change the landscape of beloved comic book characters?

dx23
11-10-08, 05:51 PM
Bad idea. Horrible idea. She going to sing the theme song too?

And the entire soundtrack and score too.

She should stick to what she knows best, and that is bend over in front of Jay Z.

devilshalo
11-10-08, 06:24 PM
i don't understand, isn't Wonder Woman a traditonally white character and isn't Beyonce traditionally black?
In truth, she's of Grecian decent. However, she ain't that olive brown in skin color.

PopcornTreeCt
11-10-08, 07:39 PM
I never thought I'd want to see Megan Fox in a movie... but I certainly would like to see her over Beyonce.

toddly6666
11-10-08, 07:44 PM
Megan Fox and Beyonce should both NOT be Wonder Woman:

First of all, Megan Fox is a skinny ditzy girl, who is teen hot, not woman hot, and not even a good actress.
Second of all, Beyonce is black, not a great body, and not the greatest actress either.

Wonder Woman needs to be played by a 30-year old white actress with a shapely body and is a good actress.

Casting Megan Fox is the equivalent of casting Zac Efron as Superman.
Casting Beyonce is the equivalent of casting Will Smith as Captain America.

BOTH MISTAKES!


In the Green Lantern movie, Beyonce can star as Green Lantern's superheroine girlfriend "Vixen." And then they can do some stupid Elektra spin-off movie starring Vixen.
http://pics.livejournal.com/zauriel_mu/pic/0000dr2d

And Megan Fox would make a good Wasp for the Avengers movie.
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/f/f2/Waspers.jpg/440px-Waspers.jpg

Sanjuro37
11-10-08, 07:45 PM
i don't understand, isn't Wonder Woman a traditonally white character and isn't Beyonce traditionally black?
In truth, she's of Grecian decent. However, she ain't that olive brown in skin color.
Wonder Woman being black would make no difference. I can't imagine a black Captain America, because I simply think that they can't make him an inspiring leader in WWII if he's black because of the racism of the times. But Wonder Woman? Doesn't matter. Just not Beyonce. Of course, this is just her saying she wants to be Wonder Woman because she was in a movie that was good in spite of her (Dreamgirls) and is not even a rumored casting, so I imagine we can all sleep soundly.

PopcornTreeCt
11-10-08, 07:57 PM
Megan Fox and Beyonce should both NOT be Wonder Woman:

First of all, Megan Fox is a skinny ditzy girl, who is teen hot, not woman hot, and not even a good actress.
Second of all, Beyonce is black, not a great body, and not the greatest actress either.

Wonder Woman needs to be played by a 30-year old white actress with a shapely body and is a good actress.

Casting Megan Fox is the equivalent of casting Zac Efron as Superman.
Casting Beyonce is the equivalent of casting Will Smith as Captain America.

BOTH MISTAKES!


In the Green Lantern movie, Beyonce can star as Green Lantern's superheroine girlfriend "Vixen." And then they can do some stupid Elektra spin-off movie starring Vixen.
http://pics.livejournal.com/zauriel_mu/pic/0000dr2d

And Megan Fox would make a good Wasp for the Avengers movie.
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/f/f2/Waspers.jpg/440px-Waspers.jpg

Who would you like to see play Wonder Woman then?

Luther Heggs
11-10-08, 07:59 PM
so that means we have to change the landscape of beloved comic book characters?
Maybe.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2dnz1y.jpg

dx23
11-10-08, 09:12 PM
I always thought that Monica Belluci should be Wonder Woman, but although she is extremely hot, she looks a little older of what many picture WW to be. Jennifer Connelly in her Career Opportunity days would also been a perfect cast for the part. Today, they'll have to cast an unknown, since no recent 30ish Hollywood actress seems to fit the part.

As for people who might think Beyonce would fit or any other black woman, remember what happened to Halle Berry and Catwoman.

PopcornTreeCt
11-10-08, 09:50 PM
As for people who might think Beyonce would fit or any other black woman, remember what happened to Halle Berry and Catwoman.

I think that's a little unfair to say the only reason why Catwoman sucked was because Halle Berry is black. Michael Clarke Duncan was good in Daredevil.

Giantrobo
11-10-08, 10:06 PM
Please, this shit ain't never gonna happen. You guys need to calm down. I'm sure they'll cast some prime "spank worthy" white actress for you guys. :lol:

Sanjuro37
11-10-08, 10:08 PM
As for people who might think Beyonce would fit or any other black woman, remember what happened to Halle Berry and Catwoman.
No one in here is even entertaining the notion of Beyonce as WW for longer than it takes to think "God what a horrible idea," and no one is saying that "any" black woman can play the part. I'm just saying that Wonder Woman's race is in no way an issue and whoever tests the best and could feasibly look strong enough to be WW that she should get the part.

Giantrobo
11-10-08, 10:14 PM
No one in here is even entertaining the notion of Beyonce as WW for longer than it takes to think "God what a horrible idea," and no one is saying that "any" black woman can play the part. I'm just saying that Wonder Woman's race is in no way an issue and whoever tests the best and could feasibly look strong enough to be WW that she should get the part.


Fuck that shit, these guys want someone who makes their dicks hard and no stunt casting of some "smoke colored camp girl"* will fit the bill. :lol:


*a line from "The 13th Warrior"

GuessWho
11-10-08, 10:23 PM
Maybe.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2dnz1y.jpg

http://s88311880.onlinehome.us/pics/Metropolis_090106.jpg
^me

toddly6666
11-10-08, 10:31 PM
Who would you like to see play Wonder Woman then?

I second Monica Bellucci, but it's unrealistic - she's too old now and her accent is too thick...and anyway it should be the other way around - Wonder Woman should be playing Monica Bellucci!


There is only one really hot, brunette, phenomenal actress (she can do any accent as well) that can do justice to Wonder Woman. There is not one other actress under the age of 30 that is as mature, hot, and an amazing actress as her....And she deserves massive fame already. She is like a walking goddess, not too many other actresses like that. She is Wonder Woman:

EVA GREEN:

http://danong.com/data/2007/07/21/22075368_Eva-Green-1.jpg
http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/evagreen/eva_green_1.jpg
http://www.keksdose666.de/EvaGreen.jpg
http://msp293.photobucket.com/albums/mm53/livolay/eva_green.jpg
http://www.viecouture.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/evagreen1.jpg
http://www.popstarsplus.com/images/EvaGreenPicture.jpg
http://www.canmag.com/images/front/darkmaterials/compassposter17.jpg

Sanjuro37
11-10-08, 10:35 PM
Eva Green's a pretty fine suggestion, actually. She's not perfect, but then it's incredibly hard to cast this role. But the fact that she's brunette I don't see as being beneficial. It's not like there's a shortage of hair dye in the world.

toddly6666
11-10-08, 10:42 PM
Eva Green's a pretty fine suggestion, actually. She's not perfect, but then it's incredibly hard to cast this role. But the fact that she's brunette I don't see as being beneficial. It's not like there's a shortage of hair dye in the world.

Who do you think should be Wonder Woman?

I really think Eva Green is perfect. In the few films she has been in, she has played smoking hot full-bodied, voluptious, sexy, queen, emotional, strong, she can fly (Golden Compass), intelligent, leader... I can't think of one other actress with all these qualities which are necessary for Wonder Woman. Jessica Biel, Jennifer Connelly, Megan Fox, Kate Bekinsale, Angelina Jolie, Salma Hayak, Eva Mendes, and Monica Bellucci are not even close to the physical and emotional levels of Eva Green...

Casting Eva Green as Wonder Woman would be equivalent of how they cast Christian Bale to play Batman. Just pure genius casting of batman.

Sanjuro37
11-10-08, 10:49 PM
Who do you think should be Wonder Woman?

Well, I just said that was a good suggestion, probably the best I've heard. But she'd need to bulk up quite a bit.

GuessWho
11-10-08, 10:52 PM
I really think Eva Green is perfect. In the few films she has been in, she has played smoking hot full-bodied, voluptious, sexy, queen, emotional, strong, she can fly ....

I can't think of one other actress with all these qualities which are necessary for Wonder Woman. Jessica Biel, Jennifer Connelly, Megan Fox, Kate Bekinsale, Angelina Jolie, Salma Hayak, Eva Mendes, and Monica Bellucci are not even close to the physical and emotional levels of Eva Green...

They can't fly?

toddly6666
11-10-08, 10:54 PM
Well, I just said that was a good suggestion, probably the best I've heard. But she'd need to bulk up quite a bit.

that shouldn't be a prob - actors can buff up with no prob...you've seen those recent shots of Jake gylanhall, right? That actor used to be a scrawny beanpole. I couldn't believe how big he got for his Prince of Persia flick...

I'm sure the producers are just going to choose some flat-chested scrawney petite actress that can't act, but has a great smile..

PopcornTreeCt
11-10-08, 10:55 PM
I like Eva Green a whole lot. While I think a comic book movie is most certainly beneath her, I think she deserves the fame that goes along with a big movie like that.

toddly6666
11-10-08, 10:55 PM
They can't fly?

haha...okay, who do you think should be Wonder Woman?

toddly6666
11-10-08, 10:59 PM
I like Eva Green a whole lot. While I think a comic book movie is most certainly beneath her, I think she deserves the fame that goes along with a big movie like that.

She's been in comic-book type adventure/action movies already:

James Bond (British superhero)
Arsène Lupin (French superhero)
Franklyn (Gothic superhero)
Golden Compass (fantasy)


Concerning being beneath certain roles, she's actually been in only one art-housy film - The Dreamers - all her other films are as mainstream as they can get. That's why she's perfect.

fumanstan
11-10-08, 11:05 PM
so that means we have to change the landscape of beloved comic book characters?

Sarcasm.

Eva looks ok, but not particularly striking for the part. I think an unknown would be better.

toddly6666
11-10-08, 11:11 PM
Sarcasm.

Eva looks ok, but not particularly striking for the part. I think an unknown would be better.

I like the idea of an unknown as well, but I just fear another Superman mistake. Look what that did with Superman Returns. They got some Christopher Reeve clone, but acts like a zombie and has no screen presence.

I'm just saying, if they pick a famous actress to play Wonder Woman, I can only think of Eva Green. Since she is an international star, it would help the movie make money in europe for example.

I'm not sure what you mean about striking since I thought that Eva Green is as striking as they come - can you give me an example of some other actress who is considered to be striking?

fumanstan
11-10-08, 11:26 PM
I think Megan Fox is more striking then she is, not that I care for her to be Wonder Woman. But as far as the part goes, isn't WW like a 6 foot amazon? Eva seems the dainty type to me. It seems like you just have a thing for her to go on and on about her for the last few posts and challenge anyone that doesn't agree. :lol:

And Superman Returns had bigger problems then the actor they chose for Supes, but that opinion varies too. Personally I thought he was limited by plot/script/writing more then ability.

PopcornTreeCt
11-10-08, 11:37 PM
She's been in comic-book type adventure/action movies already:

James Bond (British superhero)
Arsène Lupin (French superhero)
Franklyn (Gothic superhero)
Golden Compass (fantasy)


Concerning being beneath certain roles, she's actually been in only one art-housy film - The Dreamers - all her other films are as mainstream as they can get. That's why she's perfect.

James Bond is real, dude. :)

toddly6666
11-10-08, 11:38 PM
I think Megan Fox is more striking then she is, not that I care for her to be Wonder Woman. But as far as the part goes, isn't WW like a 6 foot amazon? Eva seems the dainty type to me. It seems like you just have a thing for her to go on and on about her for the last few posts and challenge anyone that doesn't agree. :lol:

And Superman Returns had bigger problems then the actor they chose for Supes, but that opinion varies too. Personally I thought he was limited by plot/script/writing more then ability.

I think Megan Fox is just awful. She's an awful actress, she's ordinary, not naturally gorgeous (she's Miss Make-up) and she has porn-star looks. She's at the same level/hype of a Pamela Anderson or Carmen Elektra. She's the same height as Eva Green by the way. I do love Eva. But I also love Jennifer Connelly, Salma Hayak, Jessica Alba, Jessica Biel, and Monica Bellucci, but they aren't right for Wonder Woman.

I'm not disagreeing, I just want to hear who and why they think an actress should be cast as Wonder Woman, instead of fanboy drool girls. People were saying Monrena Baccarin should be Wonder Woman after Firefly/Serenity. She's even a worse actress than Jessica Alba. Megan Fox is still riding off Transformers....

People will see Wonder Woman regardless if it has someone famous or not. The key is the good acting and good story.

fumanstan
11-10-08, 11:50 PM
I think Megan Fox is just awful. She's an awful actress, she's ordinary, not naturally gorgeous (she's Miss Make-up) and she has porn-star looks. She's at the same level/hype of a Pamela Anderson or Carmen Elektra. She's the same height as Eva Green by the way. I do love Eva. But I also love Jennifer Connelly, Salma Hayak, Jessica Alba, Jessica Biel, and Monica Bellucci, but they aren't right for Wonder Woman.

I'm not disagreeing, I just want to hear who and why they think an actress should be cast as Wonder Woman, instead of fanboy drool girls. People were saying Monrena Baccarin should be Wonder Woman after Firefly/Serenity. She's even a worse actress than Jessica Alba. Megan Fox is still riding off Transformers....

People will see Wonder Woman regardless if it has someone famous or not. The key is the good acting and good story.

:shrug: I think Megan is far from ordinary, and obviously a lot of people drool over her looks. But like I already said, I wouldn't be so sure of her as Wonder Woman either which is why I'd prefer an unknown.

toddly6666
11-11-08, 12:10 AM
I think Megan Fox would play an awesome Wonder Woman villain such as:

Cheetah
http://tonyznet.com/wonderwoman/comingsoon/covers/oct/WW_222.jpg


Circe
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5551/139497-196645-circe_super.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Megan_Fox_LF.jpg

devilshalo
11-11-08, 11:38 AM
I'm just saying that Wonder Woman's race is in no way an issue and whoever tests the best and could feasibly look strong enough to be WW that she should get the part.
Sorry, that only works for for becoming President.

Unless you can show me an instance where Wonder Woman, at any time in history, has been portrayed as something other than caucasian of Grecian descent, she should remain caucasian. That's like making a Smurf movie in which they are red skinned instead of blue.

Beyonce wants to be a black superheroine? She can be Captain Marvel (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Rambeau%2C_Monica).

Sanjuro37
11-11-08, 12:12 PM
Sorry, that only works for for becoming President.

Unless you can show me an instance where Wonder Woman, at any time in history, has been portrayed as something other than caucasian of Grecian descent, she should remain caucasian. That's like making a Smurf movie in which they are red skinned instead of blue.

Unless you can show me an instance where Wonder Woman's race matters, you should stop making inane analogies. The Kingpin is always portrayed as white, but Michael Clarke Duncan is the single best choice to play him and it worked because his race was a non-issue.

fumanstan
11-11-08, 12:14 PM
Shouldn't it matter since all of her people are the same race and color? I guess they can make that mixed as well, but i thought everyone was "white." I don't know, either way I'd prefer they didn't change the race of characters that people are familiar with. It may not matter based on the actual characters actions and storylines, but in terms of seeing a familiar comic book character come to life it becomes unfamiliar.

devilshalo
11-11-08, 01:03 PM
Unless you can show me an instance where Wonder Woman's race matters, you should stop making inane analogies. The Kingpin is always portrayed as white, but Michael Clarke Duncan is the single best choice to play him and it worked because his race was a non-issue.

Sorry, but Michael Clarke Duncan was horrible as the Kingpin. I felt he didn't embody anything of what Wilson Fisk was. There was nothing intimidating about him other than his size. He's a poor version of Deebo. And truthfully, that was it, he fit the physical requirements MSJ needed, but IMO that didn't make him the best man for the job.

So to find a guy that big, that strong, who had the voice, the presence, had the look. The truth is, and the purists would have to agree, if Michael Clarke Duncan was white, he would be a dead ringer in every conceivable way.
And there are a good handful of better ACTORS that would have been a better selection, but because there was a size requirement, that's how MSJ stood to defend his decision. Did it work? For some it did, for others it didn't. But DD nor Kingpin is as iconic of a comic book character as Wonder Woman.

Lastdaysofrain
11-11-08, 02:14 PM
Are there a lot of black greeks?

Superman07
11-11-08, 04:41 PM
Well what about Catwoman? That's been played both ways. And before anybody says anything I think the calliber (or lack thereof) of the acting was the reason that last one sucked. *never saw it

I still think Charisma Carpenter would be the best choice.

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Charisma-Carpenter-agf02.jpg

I'll allow you all to Google for any additional photos. ;)

Michael Corvin
11-11-08, 05:09 PM
Not bad. She obviously looks great, but her acting is a little suspect from what I've seen of her.

fumanstan
11-11-08, 06:03 PM
Does Charisma look any different now since her Buffy days? She was pretty awesome then, not sure how she's aged.

toddly6666
11-11-08, 06:54 PM
Fumanstan just brought up an important point:

1. Charisma is now old.
2. Charsima is now plastic-looking (she's had surgery all over - not a good representative of a Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman should be all-natural).
3. Charisma is an awful actress.

She might be good for a Wonder Woman TV show...but not for the movie...

Superman07
11-11-08, 08:32 PM
Hard to tell what's new and what's old: http://www.superiorpics.com/charisma_carpenter/

antspawn
11-11-08, 08:57 PM
I would love Kim Kardashian to play Wonder Woman. Just think about all that ass sticking out of her costume. :D

toddly6666
11-11-08, 09:01 PM
Hard to tell what's new and what's old: http://www.superiorpics.com/charisma_carpenter/

You can't tell from Charisma Carpenter's photos that she's now currently Plastic Woman and not as hot as she was 10 years ago? She would make a phenomenal-looking Wonder Woman years ago, but not now.

fumanstan
11-11-08, 09:11 PM
I think she still looks attractive, after seeing pics from the recent comic con.

IDrinkMolson
11-11-08, 10:09 PM
I would love Kim Kardashian to play Wonder Woman. Just think about all that ass sticking out of her costume. :D


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antspawn
11-12-08, 07:44 AM
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http://img207.imagevenue.com/loc545/th_62383_9_122_545lo.JPG (http://img207.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc545&image=62383_9_122_545lo.JPG)

Oh snap!! lol! Not bad. I wonder if she uses a lasso of tied condoms? lol

Superman07
11-12-08, 08:01 AM
Anybody see the OC? I forgot about Summer's surprise to Seth. :lol:

cleaver
11-12-08, 08:40 AM
Lena Headley
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2008/01/21/LenaHeadley460.jpg