Hollywood Remakes... WTF!
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Hollywood Remakes... WTF!
The studios are out of fucking control with the remakes... First they can't stop turning great Japan horror flicks into piles of PG-13 shit.
And now they remaking...
Evil Dead
Scanners
& Susperia
to name a few. Not sequels, REMAKES!!! Have they learned nothing from Psycho??? Are they that fucking desperate for ideas? Shit, I've heard of writter's block but shit... I'm really curious how many films were made this year based on other films?
I just needed to vent... Better now.
And now they remaking...
Evil Dead
Scanners
& Susperia
to name a few. Not sequels, REMAKES!!! Have they learned nothing from Psycho??? Are they that fucking desperate for ideas? Shit, I've heard of writter's block but shit... I'm really curious how many films were made this year based on other films?
I just needed to vent... Better now.
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Eh, well, this is less about Psycho and more about copying the successes of Dawn of the Dead and TCM. It's getting a bit tiresome, but it's the new big thing in horror. On the flip side, has horror ever really been the most creative genre ever? In the 80s is was endless sequels. Now it's endless remakes. On the bright side, at least we're getting a bunch of horror movies. For some reason I doubt Land of the Dead would be even made if not for the success of Dawn of the Dead.
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Considering the success of The Grudge, i'm sure most people disagree with you about it being a pile of shit. Ocean's 11 was great. I also had a lot of fun with Italian Job. Quite frankly, i couldn't care less if Hollywood keeps throwing out remakes, as long as there are a few enjoyable ones out there. Besides, it's not like remakes are the sole source of crap out there. There are plenty of original ideas that suck too
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No offense; but if Ringu was rated by the MPAA, it'd probably be PG-13.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake was terrible; but the Dawn of the Dead remake was fantastic and felt more like an add-on to the original than just someone trying to copy the first. They took the same premise as the first (mall and zombies) and let it run on it's own. Instead of a horror film with social commentary and comedic elements, we got a straight-up action film with horror elements. Sure, it might not be as original or intellectual as the first, but still entertaining nevertheless. Props to Gunn and Snyder for that one.
Ocean's 11 and Solaris were both great fucking remakes. Hell, Solaris was (IMO) a lot better than the original Russian version from 1970. Heck, I even enjoyed The Italian Job (Norton hamming it up for two hours is great).
Remakes could be great if done right. Some others, happen to suck...
Yeah, because after the remake, Universal jumped in to help Romero out. Unlike FOX (loooosers), they were ready to shell out $10 million for Romero to get his vision towards the big screen. Christ, Universal will be taking some nice risks in 2005 (Land of the Dead and Serenity).
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake was terrible; but the Dawn of the Dead remake was fantastic and felt more like an add-on to the original than just someone trying to copy the first. They took the same premise as the first (mall and zombies) and let it run on it's own. Instead of a horror film with social commentary and comedic elements, we got a straight-up action film with horror elements. Sure, it might not be as original or intellectual as the first, but still entertaining nevertheless. Props to Gunn and Snyder for that one.
Ocean's 11 and Solaris were both great fucking remakes. Hell, Solaris was (IMO) a lot better than the original Russian version from 1970. Heck, I even enjoyed The Italian Job (Norton hamming it up for two hours is great).
Remakes could be great if done right. Some others, happen to suck...
For some reason I doubt Land of the Dead would be even made if not for the success of Dawn of the Dead.
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It's a free market and it's clear that these remakes are hitting the right notes. If you don't like it... fine. That is your opinion, but it's clear that it is not shared by many. I enjoyed the Hollywood version of Ringu, Grudge, Dawn and Ocean's 11.
You should realize that your crazy rants don't represent what the free market is saying or else hollywood studios wouldn't be doing this.
You should realize that your crazy rants don't represent what the free market is saying or else hollywood studios wouldn't be doing this.
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I used to be against remakes as well and I mean big time but I have to admit the remake of Dawn was damn good and now after watching the remake of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre for a second time without throwing a fit, I actually like it a lot.
I honestly think most people just shut completely off when they hear about remakes. Hell I don't blame them, It's the movies they love, but when was the last time any of you really watched the original Chainsaw without not wanting to stop it after about half way through? I love the original but it's pure shit for most of the ride until we get into the gory goods.
Jaeu has an excellent point about horror flicks not being the most creative genre as well, I'm a horror junkie but most of what we have originally received in the past was a lot of under produced/same ol' shit.
The point about Ringu; I more than agree, It would have most likely gotten the PG-13 stamp.
I am now very open to these remakes and I will admit the news of the Evil Dead pissed me off plenty mainly due to the fact that there is no Samn and Bruce. I spoke with a friend yesterday about it and he said he wouldn't mind seeing stiffler give it a shot as long as they stick to the hardcore gore.
Take it how you will and you can bash me all you want but I really think a lot of people should be more open to these remakes - do they stay dead on target? No, do they sell out? I'll say no to that as well.
Damn, my first post ever was about wanting to "stop horror movie remakes".....................shit changes I guess.
I honestly think most people just shut completely off when they hear about remakes. Hell I don't blame them, It's the movies they love, but when was the last time any of you really watched the original Chainsaw without not wanting to stop it after about half way through? I love the original but it's pure shit for most of the ride until we get into the gory goods.
Jaeu has an excellent point about horror flicks not being the most creative genre as well, I'm a horror junkie but most of what we have originally received in the past was a lot of under produced/same ol' shit.
The point about Ringu; I more than agree, It would have most likely gotten the PG-13 stamp.
I am now very open to these remakes and I will admit the news of the Evil Dead pissed me off plenty mainly due to the fact that there is no Samn and Bruce. I spoke with a friend yesterday about it and he said he wouldn't mind seeing stiffler give it a shot as long as they stick to the hardcore gore.
Take it how you will and you can bash me all you want but I really think a lot of people should be more open to these remakes - do they stay dead on target? No, do they sell out? I'll say no to that as well.
Damn, my first post ever was about wanting to "stop horror movie remakes".....................shit changes I guess.
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Re: Hollywood Remakes... WTF!
Originally posted by mikewendt
The studios are out of fucking control with the remakes... First they can't stop turning great Japan horror flicks into piles of PG-13 shit.
The studios are out of fucking control with the remakes... First they can't stop turning great Japan horror flicks into piles of PG-13 shit.
As far as great horror flicks being ruined in remakes, I guess I have different tastes b/c IMO 2 of the greatest horror films every created The Thing & The Fly are both remakes.
I'm not a fan of remakes either, but if you don't like them don't support them, it's that simple.
Hollywood is completely out of ideas & if you want good movies they are out there, you just have to search them out. I've seen the endless updates of absurd amounts of movies you watch every day & your tastes are as mainstream & bromide as they get, almost all you watch are typical mainstream Hollywood movies, not to mention I've seen you list watching The Texas Chainsaw Massacre & Dawn of the Dead, 2 of the shittiest hollywood remakes there are & you own them both, on top of the dreadfully uncalled for Psycho remake.
You rant comes off as if you are soooo pissed Hollywood is ruining the beloved original movies that you love & cherish so much, yet you list have nearly 800 DVD (which your sig says in multiple versions of tracker systems as being "up to date"), yet you do not even own Scanners or Susperia so w/ that many DVDs you clearly are not a fan of either film, so why do you care they are remade.
So why is it again these remakes bother you, when you seem to own the very movies you bitch about yet don't own the movies you seem to be pissed they are bastardizing?
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To the OP - I'm not trying to get on your case but you listed three horror movie remakes yet you have both remakes of Dawn and the special edition Chainsaw on DVD?
Are you opposed to the films themselves or do you just get mad at the initial news of a remake?
Are you opposed to the films themselves or do you just get mad at the initial news of a remake?
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Ah, another remake rant.
I'm sure that if the internet existed in the 1920's and 30's, we would have had the same rants, because they were doing remakes even then.
I'm sure that if the internet existed in the 1920's and 30's, we would have had the same rants, because they were doing remakes even then.
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Originally posted by marty888
Ah, another remake rant.
I'm sure that if the internet existed in the 1920's and 30's, we would have had the same rants, because they were doing remakes even then.
Ah, another remake rant.
I'm sure that if the internet existed in the 1920's and 30's, we would have had the same rants, because they were doing remakes even then.
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It is getting out of hand.
I was reading up on John Carpenter's filmogrophy the other day and saw that there are remakes of The Fog in the works and the Assault on Precinct 13 remake comes out in January.
I was reading up on John Carpenter's filmogrophy the other day and saw that there are remakes of The Fog in the works and the Assault on Precinct 13 remake comes out in January.
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Originally posted by Geofferson
It is getting out of hand.
I was reading up on John Carpenter's filmogrophy the other day and saw that there are remakes of The Fog in the works and the Assault on Precinct 13 remake comes out in January.
It is getting out of hand.
I was reading up on John Carpenter's filmogrophy the other day and saw that there are remakes of The Fog in the works and the Assault on Precinct 13 remake comes out in January.
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Re: Hollywood Remakes... WTF!
Originally posted by mikewendt
The studios are out of fucking control with the remakes... First they can't stop turning great Japan horror flicks into piles of PG-13 shit.
And now they remaking...
Evil Dead
Scanners
& Susperia
to name a few. Not sequels, REMAKES!!! Have they learned nothing from Psycho??? Are they that fucking desperate for ideas? Shit, I've heard of writter's block but shit... I'm really curious how many films were made this year based on other films?
I just needed to vent... Better now.
The studios are out of fucking control with the remakes... First they can't stop turning great Japan horror flicks into piles of PG-13 shit.
And now they remaking...
Evil Dead
Scanners
& Susperia
to name a few. Not sequels, REMAKES!!! Have they learned nothing from Psycho??? Are they that fucking desperate for ideas? Shit, I've heard of writter's block but shit... I'm really curious how many films were made this year based on other films?
I just needed to vent... Better now.
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Originally posted by marty888
Ah, another remake rant.
I'm sure that if the internet existed in the 1920's and 30's, we would have had the same rants, because they were doing remakes even then.
Ah, another remake rant.
I'm sure that if the internet existed in the 1920's and 30's, we would have had the same rants, because they were doing remakes even then.
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Originally posted by renaldow
No shit. That drives me crazy.
No shit. That drives me crazy.
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Re: Hollywood Remakes... WTF!
Originally posted by mikewendt
First they can't stop turning great Japan horror flicks into piles of PG-13 shit.
First they can't stop turning great Japan horror flicks into piles of PG-13 shit.
there's also in the works a Hollywood remake of (Korean filmmaker) Kim Ji-woon's film Tale of Two Sisters
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Originally posted by Rival11
Why? We were reffering to the original "Ringu" - what's the problem?
Why? We were reffering to the original "Ringu" - what's the problem?
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I don't mind remakes (especially of movies like Ocean's 11 that weren't very good the first time around), though I am getting pretty tired of the comedic movie versions of old television shows.
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Originally posted by Brain Stew
Hell, even Bogart's The Maltese Falcon was the umpteenth remake of the movie.
Hell, even Bogart's The Maltese Falcon was the umpteenth remake of the movie.
It wasn't a remake; it was an adaptation. There's a difference!
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Originally posted by Matt Millheiser
No NO NOOOOOOOOOO!
It wasn't a remake; it was an adaptation. There's a difference!
No NO NOOOOOOOOOO!
It wasn't a remake; it was an adaptation. There's a difference!
I've not seen the 1931 version of The Maltese Falcon to compare and contrast.