Good bonuses

[mgbfan]

Just FYI - saw on another forum that both Reef Club Casino and Casino-on-Net are offering 100% bonuses up to $200 with only a 10x playthrough requirement (on just the bonus, not on the deposit). This is a very good deal.

I did both, playing blackjack and $5 and $10 pai gow poker (great game for clearing bonuses, because more than half of all hands are pushes). From download to finish for both casinos was less than 3 hours. Total profit for me was +$298, and that was in part because I was getting imapatient at the end and made a few bad decisions. All told, though not bad for three hours of play.

If you do either or both, note that you can turn off the voice sounds. Trust me, after 2 minutes, you'll want to. Very annoying, especially at Reef Club. Also note that you can track your play through the comp points system. No need to keep track of your total bets, which is nice.

This is total cake - I'm not linking to the casinos because I don't want anyone think I'm after referrals. You know where to find them.

[moorehed]

looks good. i could stand a bit of extra cash. thinking about trying this tonight.

they have quick neteller cash in/cash out?

and, having not played pai gow much, what would a solid strategy for clearing a bonus w/losing the min. amount of $ be?

thanks for the heads up.

[El Scorcho]

What are the table mins? $5?

[mgbfan]

Moorehead - Pai Gow is pretty simple. Both of these casinos have a "house way" button that you can click - basically, it auto-sorts your cards. I'd suggest just doing that at first and see how it works. There are some times I don't go with the house way, but 98% of the time, it's the right play.

The thing about Pai Gow is that the house edge is bigger than blackjack, but because more than half the hands push (I believe I read that 58% of hands are a push), it's a great option for clearing bonuses. If you want to clear fast, it's the best way. If you want to try to make a profit, blackjack is still your best bet. I played a bit of both for variety.

Neteller cash-in is quick. My Neteller cash-out for Reef Club took 5 days. Just cashed out of Casino-on-Net a couple days ago; it's not through yet. They're on the same system as Pacific Poker, which is known for slow Neteller cash-outs.

El Scorcho - Table minimums are $1.

[moorehed]

they have Prima software? cool... thanks for the heads up. i'm going to try an give it a go. we'll see where i'm at in a few hours.

i thought i read that the house edge in pai gow is only like 1.5%?

[moorehed]

i just bought in and only got a 40$ bonus on 200$ deposit?

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by moorehed
i read that the house edge in pai gow is only like 1.5%?

Hmm ... not sure on the odds. I could be wrong. House edge seems like more than 1.5%, though - they take a flat 5% off your wins, so wouldn't that be a 5% house edge right there? Then the dealer also wins ties, which doesn't come up alot, but it should add to that edge even more.

In any event, I really like Pai Gow for clearing bonus money. If you have to bet $2000 and you can go in figuring at least $1100 of that is going to be push money, it's kind of like a $900 playthrough requirement.

[moorehed]

well it would be 5% for the hands you win...

0% for the pushes and losses...


now i just wish my 100% bonus would show up. I only got 20%... says 100% on the website though. emailed support.

did you have to do anything to get that bonus?

[moorehed]

signed up for casino on net and only got 20% as well, however theirs says right on the deposit form, 100% bonus up to 200$

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by moorehed

now i just wish my 100% bonus would show up. I only got 20%... says 100% on the website though. emailed support.


Sheesh. I had the same thing happen and called the 1-800 number. They assured me it was a "techincal glitch." Apparently a technical glitch they're in no hurry to fix. A 2-minute phone call got it done for me.

[moorehed]

alright... kindof a pain. im trying their online help but all operators are busy. probably busy crediting peoples bonuses.

[moorehed]

got casino on net in a couple mins via online support, bonus was in my account in minutes.

had to call reef (no online help) and took about another 2 mins like mgbfan said. said it should be in there in 30 mins.

so now i'm playing casino on net.

just giving info for anyone else who wants to do this.

[moorehed]

i like this pai gow. it is completely mindless :).

[Deftones]

Originally posted by moorehed
i like this pai gow. it is completely mindless :).

Except when you play in the casino and have to fudge with quarters. PITA.

[moorehed]

hahaha. when i was reading about it, it said something about being able to play as the bank or something? whats that?

[El Scorcho]

Originally posted by moorehed
hahaha. when i was reading about it, it said something about being able to play as the bank or something? whats that?

Basically you have the option before the start of a hand to play as the banker, where all the other hands on the table play against you and you collect and/or pay the players accordingly.

[moorehed]

uhmm i think i just saw a glitch in the system.

my 22 beat his K Joker ? or do i not understand how jokers work?

and i'm guessing you can't play as banker online?

[El Scorcho]

Jokers only count as Aces, part of a straight, or part of a flush.

So K Joker = AK

2 3 5 6 Joker = 2 3 4 5 6

2 3 5 9 Joker = A 9 5 3 2

[moorehed]

ahhh. strange. figured it was more likely my ignorance than a bug.

i'm whooping pai gows ass thanks to the house play button :)

[El Scorcho]

I spent the hours of 10 pm to 4 am at a $10 pai gow table in Reno. Won six whole freakin dollars. :lol:

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by moorehed

my 22 beat his K Joker ? or do i not understand how jokers work?


Ha - the first time I played, I was totally mystified by that as well. Damn it, man, now you have me feeling like playing more pai gow!

[El Scorcho]

I'm already 30% of the way through my bonus play through. Deposited 50, need to play 500 worth (50 bonus points worth in your cashier's tab).

I'm up $7 after 30% of the way. This is easy money with Pai Gow, cuz you're really not going to go anywhere $1 at a time.

[moorehed]

i went to the bar, but now i'm back playing again.

el, why didn't you do the full 200?

[El Scorcho]

gunshy, i think

on the casino-on-net one, i'll do the full 200

[moorehed]

i tried doing the math.

am i correct thinking that the AVERAGE of depositing 200, getting 200 bonus, and playing through the bonus should have 170 left of the bonus when done? (if playing pai gow)

[mgbfan]

Don't forget to cash out your comp points when you're done. If you do the $200, it's an extra $2. Not much, but hey ... $2 is $2. Bonus on top of bonus.

[moorehed]

yeh. i look at this as pretty much free money. i was lucky though and had money sitting in my neteller doing nothing.

its cool you can play pai gow drunk.

[moorehed]

good call mgb :).

[mgbfan]

My math says you should end up losing, on average, $55 by playing pai gow through $2000 worth of hands.

2000 x .9727 (the house edge) = 1945.4. Rounding down, 1945, meaning a loss of 55.

If you're staying with bets of $5 and below, you'd need just a horrible run to lose the entire bonus before hitting the requirement.

[El Scorcho]

mgbfan, thanks for the heads up. Keep us in the loop if you see any more like this along the way :)

[moorehed]

ah where did you get the official house edge? i was using 1.5 still

[moorehed]

yes would like to know of more! i think there are whole websites devoted to this, but i dont remember seeing many deals this good. nice to know someone else has done it first as well.

also, could you tell me an example of a hand where you wouldn't go with the house?

[El Scorcho]

:lol:

Spoke too soon.. got a shitty run of cards the last 20 min. Down to $69 after $50 buyin and about 10 more hands to play :lol:

[moorehed]

seriously? thats a horrible run of cards

[moorehed]

playing 1$ you went down 69?????

[El Scorcho]

I started playing $2 and $3 hands.

There was one run where I lost 7 hands in a row.

Every time I'd have trips, dealer would have a straight or something. Seriously shitty. But still I profited $20 overall.

Just bought in at casino on net and they only gave me 20% of my $200 instead of 100%. So now I'm on the phone with them.

[moorehed]

well, i'm done. are there any more???

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by moorehed
ah where did you get the official house edge? i was using 1.5 still

wizardofodds.com - they give a house edge for the player (not the dealer) as 2.73%

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by moorehed

also, could you tell me an example of a hand where you wouldn't go with the house?

Sometimes when you get two small pair, I like to keep the 2 pair in the big hand, where the house would split them.

For example: 2255TJK

The house way, I believe, is to split the 22. Personally, I like to keep the two pair together and take my chances with the KJ split off.

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by moorehed
well, i'm done. are there any more???
I'll keep my eyes open. What was your total profit moorehed?

[moorehed]

only like 210.

i started playing 25$ and lost a few.

[El Scorcho]

crap now i'm hooked on $1 craps, and the points add up fast.

Deposited $200, currently at $420 with 89 points racked up.

[moorehed]

uh oh!

how did you end up on last site?

[El Scorcho]

Dep'd $50, left with $69.

Now I'm at $460 on this site with 100 points racked up.

Anyone know the rules about signing up more than one account? :D

[moorehed]

probably would be easy as long as you could get 2 neteller accounts...

[El Scorcho]

I used my bank acct on both sites. Wire transfers.

I wonder if I could use a family members bank acct. Hmmmm...

[moorehed]

how much do those cost?

[El Scorcho]

Free to dep, free to withdrawl

instantaneous deposit, takes a few days to withdrawl.

Update: $473, 113/200 points :)

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by El Scorcho
crap now i'm hooked on $1 craps, and the points add up fast.

Deposited $200, currently at $420 with 89 points racked up.

Wow! Nice run. Do your craps bets count toward the bonus? The TOS said something about craps and roulette not counting. You might want to check that.

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by El Scorcho

Anyone know the rules about signing up more than one account? :D

Bad idea, for several reasons. First, they do watch for this kind of thing. IP addresses, names, account numbers, anything. Secondly, even if you could do it, it's just the sort of thing that ensures these kinds of bonuses will go away forever.

FYI - if you do a second account, they're perfectly within their rights to freeze it and hold the money you deposit.

[El Scorcho]

Closed out at $442. :D

[El Scorcho]

Originally posted by mgbfan
Wow! Nice run. Do your craps bets count toward the bonus? The TOS said something about craps and roulette not counting. You might want to check that.

Oops, didn't see the craps thing. Saw roulette but forgot craps don't count. I figure about 30-40 of my points were on craps. I got no problem going back and re-doing these.

I'm not gonna do two accts, btw. This isn't like amazon.com or some shit. They monitor this stuff way too heavily hehe.

[El Scorcho]

Just got off the phone with them.

I asked if I was eligible to cash out now and was wondering about the Craps thing. I said the site said it isn't eligible but the guy immediately cut me off and said "trust me, it is.."

:D

[El Scorcho]

My profits would have been better if some perfect double down situations had gone my way.

I was doing the 2-2-3-5-10 betting method, where each win moves you to the next bet and each loss starts you over at $2 bet. Any loss in the streak still ends you with a couple bucks profit.

Anyway, I got up to the $10 bet a couple times. On two of those I had 11 vs. dealer 6. Doubled and got garbage. And both times the dealer ended up with 20. :(

[actyper]

Yeah it has been confirmed that craps does count toward WR. I'm assuming as long as you don't only play the pass line.

If you plan on playing Reef, play it on tues Nov 30. BJ Treasure Hunt will net you an extra $25. Check the players club section for more info.

[mgbfan]

Cool - just peeked in my Reef Club account and they gave me a $10 bonus just for nothing.

[moorehed]

these guys are on a network of sites, all using the same software. i'm sure there are others offering the same promotion. someone less lazy than me find them and report back.

hahah.

[El Scorcho]

haha

yeah these guys also had the nice bonus for pacific poker too

[El Scorcho]

ok, just found this one:

http://www.casinotropez.com/bonus.html#100free

To receive your 100% free play bonus up to $100, you need to make your first single deposit into your account and you will receive this play bonus instantly!

For example:
Deposit $50 get $50 Free - You play with $100
Deposit $100 get $100 Free - You play with $200

Please note that the only deposit that is eligible for this play bonus is your first deposit at the Casino.

The total maximum play bonus that will be given for your first deposit bonus is $100.

This play bonus may not be combined with any other bonus unless otherwise stated.

In the interest of fair gaming in order to cash out any amount of money you must wager at least eight (8) times your play bonus plus deposit. If you withdraw before having reached the minimum wagering requirements, your bonus and winnings will be void.

For example:
Deposit $50 get $50 Free - minimum wager is $800
Deposit $100 get $100 Free - minimum wager is $1600

Bets placed on Baccarat, Craps, Roulette , Sic Bo and all 4-line Video Poker games will be not be counted toward wagering requirements.

[El Scorcho]

Here's a huge list, including bonus requirements

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/blackjackguy/vpost?id=1541

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by El Scorcho
you must wager at least eight (8) times your play bonus plus deposit. [/B]

Hmm - so that's basically 16x the bonus. Getting up there, but should be still worth doing. If you figure a house edge at 3%, you'll lose $48 on average, so you can figure to walk away ahead about $50.

[El Scorcho]

Yeah, you also have to be careful of three things:

1) "sticky" bonuses -- you deposit $x, they add $y bonus. Wager n times the bonus + requirement.. and then when you cash out, they subtract $y from your total.

2) Some bonus requirements aren't blackjack-eligible

3) Reef Club Casino and Casino-on-Net only required you bet 10x the BONUS amount. Almost all other casinos require you to bet some sort of mulitple of the (bonus + deposit) amount.

[El Scorcho]

Originally posted by mgbfan
Hmm - so that's basically 16x the bonus. Getting up there, but should be still worth doing. If you figure a house edge at 3%, you'll lose $48 on average, so you can figure to walk away ahead about $50.

Yeah, for a $50 gain though it's almost not worth it. A bad swing of the cards and you could find yourself losing $60-70 or even more.

[actyper]

I have the feeling Tropez is a "sticky bonus"

Deposit $50 get $50 Free - You play with $100

The word "play" IMO could mean that its a sticky.

[moorehed]

so its a bonus you can play with, but can't cash out?

if you deposited 50, got 50 sticky, then lost 50...

would you have lost your 50 or their 50?

[actyper]

If its a sticky, you lost their $50.

[mgbfan]

Hmm .... so a sticky bonus is basically just a buffer then? Probably still a +EV situation, but ... hardly exciting at that level.

A question comes to mind regarding this kind of bonus - what does the playthrough lock? Your deposit money? If I deposit $50, get the $50 sticky bonus, play for awhile and go in the tank, is the deposit withdrawable or is it locked in?

If the deposit is withdrawable anytime, I'd think the proper way to play this sort of bonus would be bet the full amount of the sticky on a single hand of blackjack or pai gow. If you win, you're in business. If you lose, take your deposit money and get out. That would make it enough of a +EV proposition to be worthwhile.

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by El Scorcho
Yeah, for a $50 gain though it's almost not worth it. A bad swing of the cards and you could find yourself losing $60-70 or even more.

But the bell curve is still going to be well in your favor. The odds of you losing 60-70 are balanced by the odds of you coming out ahead 70-80 (including bonus).

I don't need a sure thing. I just want a situation where the odds are in my favor, and they would be here by a fairly comfortable margin. Assuming, of course, it's not one of those "sticky" bonuses. If it is, then it's probably just not a good enough deal.

[moorehed]

mgb, thanks for the heads up on this!

[actyper]

There are much better sticky bonuses out there, usually ones at 200%/$200+. The key to winning against these stickies is to bet big. After winning a few you can go back to betting small. Personally I'll stick to regular 100%, < 20x WR.

[El Scorcho]

yeah, I dont like the sticky bonus concept myself.

[moorehed]

golden riviera looks like they have a similar 200$ deposit bonus with 15x playthrough?

[moorehed]

got my cashouts last night :)

[El Scorcho]

Keep in mind that Golden Riviera is on the Prima Network. Which means that if you get a bonus at one of the casinos on the network, you can't get bonuses on any other Casino on the prima network.

Do a google search for the Prima Network site to see which casinos are part of the network.

[moorehed]

El, unless they have changed policies, or their "casino" policy is different than their poker policy.

I have gotten poker bonuses @ Gaming Club, Royal Vegas, and one or two other prima sites. They never cared if i was a member of others as they are all independantly owned, and even though they are on a "network" they want you playing on THEIR software so they can get the $.

[El Scorcho]

Oh woops, I forgot we were talking Casino here and not Poker

Dont mind me. :)

[moorehed]

i have done that with the poker bonuses.. gotten them from 3+ prima sites.

[JEStinson3]

Are the incentives through Reef Club still valid?

I'm at work now and plan on doing this later tonight if it is still a valid deal.

[mgbfan]

I've now got all of my money from Reef and CoN. Finished a total of plus-$300.

After cashing out, both casinos gave me an extra $10 free. Lost it at Reef. At CoN, got it up to $40 (was going to go until I hit $50), but now it's back down to $25. Haven't decided whether to cash the $25 or make another run at $50.

Glad some other people were able to benefit from this as well. I've found a few other good bonuses since, but nothing quite as good as these two.

[moorehed]

whats a good way to play this 10$, i'm thinking slots? i want something where i can play 10 bucks and have a chance to hit it big... :)

[moorehed]

welp, i played slots and my free money quickly went to 0! woohoo.

[El Scorcho]

Went to cirruscasino.com last night and deposited $100 with $200 bonus. Playthough requirements were 20 x (dep + bonus) = $6000 worth.

Took me about 4 hours. Cashed out with the full $300. Had it as high as $380, as low as $205.

Then I got a referral credit from casino-on-net for $50 with only 2x playthrough requirement. Pushed that up to $300 on the blackjack table within 20 minutes. Cashed that out.

So last night I turned $100 into $600. :)

True story from a friend the other night -- I got him to sign up. We went out drinking and he went home and started playing. Deposited $700 total at casino-on-net and ran it up to $10,800. Then lost it all back down to $2000. Then back up to $9,000. Finally cashed out at $3,500. Drunk the entire time...

[mgbfan]

Originally posted by moorehed
whats a good way to play this 10$, i'm thinking slots? i want something where i can play 10 bucks and have a chance to hit it big... :)

Ha! NO NO NO. Not slots. If you want to win big (what's big?) your best bet is to plunk it all down on a single hand of blackjack or pai gow. Win and plunk it down again. Two wins in a row and you're sitting on $40 and you can do some business.

[El Scorcho]

Here's my latest totals. Mgbfan, big thanks for pointing this shit out to me. Through research and reviews, I've been able to find some pretty good deposit bonus/low playthrough sites :)

Cirruscasino -> $100 dep, $200 bonus, $300 out
Casino-on-net -> $200 dep, $300 bonus (2 referrals), $767 out
Reefclub -> $50 dep, $50 bonus, $68 out
Lasseters -> $125 dep, $250 bonus, $600 out
Planetluck -> $100 dep, $100 bonus $280 out

So that's $575 -> $2015 :D

[moorehed]

scorcho, what are the playthroughs on those other sites? cirruscasino, lasseters, planetluck? and is everything allowed? pai gow auto play? bj etc?

[El Scorcho]

ok, here's what I got for reviews. I only play blackjack since I can whip through the playthrough requirements really fast.

Cirrus Casino playthrough: 20 x ($100 dep + $200 bonus) = $6,000 playthrough. Took me about 3 hours at the $3 blackjack level. Software goes really fast. They have just about every table game imaginable.

Lasseters: 20 x ($125 dep + $250 bonus) = $7,500 playthrough. Software is incredibly slow compared to other sites. You just can't whip through blackjack hand after blackjack hand here. They don't have Pai Gow. Took me about 10 hours total to meet the reqs.

Planetluck: 8 x ($100 dep + $100 bonus) = $1,600 playthrough. Software is great. At the $1 blackjack level I whipped through the hands in about 2.5 hours. They have Pai Gow I believe.

I've been sticking to blackjack only since the odds are close, it's less thinking, and goes quite a bit faster.

[mgbfan]

Here's my latest totals. Mgbfan, big thanks for pointing this shit out to me. Through research and reviews, I've been able to find some pretty good deposit bonus/low playthrough sites :)

Cirruscasino -> $100 dep, $200 bonus, $300 out
Casino-on-net -> $200 dep, $300 bonus (2 referrals), $767 out
Reefclub -> $50 dep, $50 bonus, $68 out
Lasseters -> $125 dep, $250 bonus, $600 out
Planetluck -> $100 dep, $100 bonus $280 out

So that's $575 -> $2015 :D

Wow. You have done well. I'm glad. I haven't done Cirrus or Lassaters. Drop me an email, maybe we can trade referrals.

[El Scorcho]

Ygm.

[moorehed]

does the blackjack have "auto play" or whatever? i haven't played much.

[El Scorcho]

Nope. It's really easy to pick up though. About 90% of the hands require no thinking at all. (such as standing with 19 or 20, or hitting with 4 through 8) I can blow through the requirements much faster with blackjack than I can with PaiGow.

[moorehed]

do you have a good simple cheat sheet for me?

i of course know how to play, but i don't know optimum strategy.

and do you do any of those crazy betting patterns i see at other forums? i dont know what they mean really, but they are like 1-2-7 or 247 or something i dont really understand, but would assume it has to do with bet amounts? (sounds like a bunch of crap to me, as I'm sure the edge remains the same)

[El Scorcho]

Cheat sheets are available at www.wizardofodds.com . Click on blackjack.

The only real betting pattern I use is to up my bets when I hit a streak of 3 or more.

I'll bet $1 or $2 per hand (minimum) all the way until I win a few in a row. Then I bump it to $5. Then if I win that, I bump it to $10. If I win that, I start over at $1 or $2.

It doesn't provide the enormous $500 wins or anything like that, but it has gotten me a little extra on top of my bonus.

On Lasseters.com, I was so pissed off at their site being so slow and crappy that I bet all $266 on one hand just to get rid of it and I hit. :lol:

[moorehed]

what's the house edge in Black Jack? having to wager 6000 looks a little steep for a 200$ bonus...

[El Scorcho]

around 0.5%.

I did the math. On a $200 buyin with $200 bonus and a $2000 wager requirement and playing $1 a hand, you will lose $206 about 0.25% of the time.

There's a standard deviation chart on wizardofodds that explains the risk involved. Basically, there almost isn't any risk if you stick to basic strategy.

[moorehed]

alright... i'm in at planet luck.

lets hope my luck is good :).

any way to check how much i have wagered so far?

[moorehed]

planetluck was being MAAAAAAAAD SLOW for some reason. about 15 second delay any time i needed to talk to the server (whenever i bet, or took action, and waiting for dealer to take action). then i restarted, now it says can't login cause of network congestion. any similar experiences?

[El Scorcho]

Best way to check to see how much you've wagered is to get on a live chat with an operator and ask them. Takes about 2 minutes for them to look it up.

Never had problems with planet luck site speed.

(and next time email me so i can send you a referral for more $$ for the both of us ;) )

[moorehed]

you should have mentioned that!!!!

[moorehed]

support says technical glitch on their end. please allow 15-30 minutes.

[moorehed]

its working now! yeah.

just wish there was a way to figure out how much ive wagered w/out contacting support.

[mgbfan]

I did planetluck and starluck and didn't care for the software at all. Video poker was horrible. Blackjack was better, but it was buggy. It would randomly move the window on me, but still display both windows - very disorienting. Had to quit the software and log back in.

Good bonuses, but I'd never go back. Just too much hassle with the software.

[moorehed]

im getting my ASS beat in blackjack playing by the strategy reccomended.

i have 66 left from my 200.

[moorehed]

and woudln't you know the girlfriend comes over and works it back up to 125. now i'm around 140 with about 100 left to wager. still seems a bit odd to have such a HUGE swing (200 down to 56 was my low). should i not be surprized by this? i thought i was going to lose all my $... maybe i shouldn't be playing 5$ bets? perhaps that is too high for my bankroll?

[moorehed]

so i've got a question about working off bonuses...

if i'm trying to work off a 100$ bonus, and i hit a bad streak... and go down 105. so i have 95 left. can i withdraw that 95 without meeting the bonus requirements? or am i screwed?

why i ask is...

i'm thinking, if all you are trying to do is make $ from bonus whoring, would it not be more efficient to sign up, get the bonus, and immediately bet the entire bonus on one hand of blackjack or something? if you win, play off the bonus, if not cash out your deposit?

i imagine this would cut your profit down very slightly, but would reduce your playthrough time in half... and you would be very unlikely to not cash out some money above your deposit on the sites where you did double up your bonus?

you could even take it further if you want... bet the bonus, if you win, bet all but your deposit again. this way you'd only have to play off 1 in 4 bonuses, but they would all be like 4x as big.

[El Scorcho]

With $5 bets, that type of swing is normal.

Standard deviation of the game is 1.15*sqrt(n)*x, where n is the number of hands and x is your bet size.

At x = $5, your n = $6000/$5, or 1200 hands.

Therefore, your standard deviation will be 1.15*sqrt(1200)*5 = $199.

This means that betting $5 a hand with a $6000 playthrough requirement will provide you with:

68% chance of you being in the +$199 or -$199 range
95% chance of you being in the +$398 or -$398 range
98% chance of you being in the +$597 or -$597 range

In other words, you stand a 32% chance of losing or winning more than $200, and a 5% chance of you winning or losing more than $400, roughly.

If you drop your bets to $1 bets, your standard deviation drops to $40, at which point you stand a 98% chance of being in the +$120 or -$120 range.

This is, of course, assuming a normal distribution of blackjack hands.

[El Scorcho]

so i've got a question about working off bonuses...

if i'm trying to work off a 100$ bonus, and i hit a bad streak... and go down 105. so i have 95 left. can i withdraw that 95 without meeting the bonus requirements? or am i screwed?

why i ask is...

i'm thinking, if all you are trying to do is make $ from bonus whoring, would it not be more efficient to sign up, get the bonus, and immediately bet the entire bonus on one hand of blackjack or something? if you win, play off the bonus, if not cash out your deposit?

i imagine this would cut your profit down very slightly, but would reduce your playthrough time in half... and you would be very unlikely to not cash out some money above your deposit on the sites where you did double up your bonus?

you could even take it further if you want... bet the bonus, if you win, bet all but your deposit again. this way you'd only have to play off 1 in 4 bonuses, but they would all be like 4x as big.

Once you accept your bonus, you can't cashout until you've wagered n*(Bonus+Deposit), where n is whatever the site stipulates. This requirement becomes waived if you run out of cash (Under $1).

Some sites have "sticky" bonuses which are for wagering purposes only that you can't cash out, but can use to bet with.

For example, a site could have $100 with $100 sticky bonus. If you run your balance up to $380, you can only cash out $280. The best strategy on these sites is to wager Deposit+bonus all on your first hand. And then work from there if you win.

[moorehed]

ah, so i couldn't cash out my initial deposit if i lost the bonus but had not completed my hands... my idea is invalid then.

you would wager your real money as well on the "sticky" bonus?

on those, i'm guessing if you lose the sticky bonus you can still cashout the money you deposited? or no?

[moorehed]

thanks for the sandard deviation lesson. it's been a while since i was in statistics. my variance though was only on a 100$ bonus playing 1600$ playthrough. yeah i probably should have been playing smaller bets. oh well. the software was extremely fast and smooth after their technical glitches got fixed.

[El Scorcho]

Nope, once you accept any bonus of any kind you need to meet the wagering requirements for both bonus and deposit before cashing out. Usually on sticky bonuses it's a lot lower (4x and 8x are typical).

And yes, you wager your own money and the sticky bonus all on the first hand.

For example, if you dep $100, get $100 bonus, and you lose, you're only out $100. But if you win, you're up $300, and you can play through your requirements as normal. Although when you cash out, you have to subtract your sticky bonus amount from your winnings.

[El Scorcho]

Got my $767 from casino-on-net in my account today and my $68 from reefclub yesterday. :banana:

[moorehed]

i wonder how much $ you could make fulltime bonus whoring.

i could set up shop, and i could scout bonuses and set them up using both my and my gf's info. that would be my job. then id pay her 10$ hour to work off bonuses playing black jack.

hahaha

[El Scorcho]

The problem that I've noticed about the bonus whoring scene is that the bonuses are becoming ridiculous and drying up.

CHeck out discussions at www.casinoexploit.com for more.

Basically a lot of the bonuses are becoming "sticky" (which I hate) or having wager requirements at 30-35x. So that means a $100 buyin with $100 bonus would have to be played through $6000 or so.

using the 1.15*sqrt(6000)*$1 for 6000 hands at $1 each, your STDEV = $89.

That means that playing at the lowest level possible and assuming the casino sites are 100% fair with their Random Number Generators (RNGs), you will either double or lose your $100 bonus money about 89% of the time. (Note: For sake of discussion, this assumes a 50/50 blackjack game with 0% house edge).

Its an interesting math discussion.

[mgbfan]

i wonder how much $ you could make fulltime bonus whoring.

Not much. As El Scorcho already mentioned, good deals like Reef Club and CoN just aren't that common. I can't speak from fristhand experience, but people say that the real bonus whoring hay days were in the late 1990s, when online gambling was pretty new and casinos weren't as wise as they are now. People say you could make upward of $30k a year.

Those days are clearly gone. I think if you devoted yourself to it, you might be able to make $5k now, but it'd be a whole lot of work.

I grab a good one when I see it. If I can make a few bucks, that's great. It's money to take my lady out to a fancy restraunt or to buy some overpriced electronics gaget that I've been wanting but would never shell out "real" money for. Just a guilt-free way to spend money that I wouldn't otherwise spend.

The real money now is in poker. What I've made in the occasional casino bonus doesn't hold a candle to the money I've made at poker.

[moorehed]

that's a good point about the poker.

what sites/games do you find to be most profitable?

i've been wondering if profits would go ^ if i moved to party and played NL tables.

[El Scorcho]

I believe Pacific Poker is regarded as the site with the most amount of pure idiots that chase anything with any cards.

[moorehed]

perhaps, but i shudder enough at the thought of playing party again... no way could i play pacific any long amount of time :).

[El Scorcho]

I'll play with a text based system if it meant a constant money flow.

[DodgingCars]

I checked out the site. I was afraid of doing the $200, so I deposited their minimum of $50.00. I played blackjack for about 20 mins and I cashed out for $195.00. I made $145.00 in 20 mins. Not too shabby.

[moorehed]

nice swing. i just cashed out for 145 on my 100 deposit.

[Spy021]

Does anyone know how long it takes for the Welcome Bonus to be credited to your account at Reef Club Casino? I received my $10 bonus for using a new deposit method immediately after making my initial $50 deposit, but haven't seen anything yet on my Welcome Bonus....

Edit: Never mind, seen Moore's post.

[mgbfan]

what sites/games do you find to be most profitable?

i've been wondering if profits would go ^ if i moved to party and played NL tables.

The bulk of my money came through Party Poker. I was out ahead of the poker "craze" so I really benefited from cutting up the constant stream of fish that came through over the course of the past several years. Though these days, it's not nearly as easy as it used to be. A year ago, people were just falling over themselves to give me their money. Now, it's work again.

These days I've been playing Prima rooms. The European players aren't nearly as good as the Americans, by and large, and Prima is filled with Europeans.

As for NL tables, they can be massivly profitable, but you HAVE to have a cool demeanor and be willing to understand you're talking about a very high variance. You can't flip over maniacs who catch cards.

[mgbfan]

You know, how stupid are we here? We should really start a referral train for CoN and Reef Club. Everyone wins - when you sign up, use the referral of the previous guy in the train, then the next guy in the train adds yours. That'll add $50 of bonus money to everyone's deal (unless, of course, you happen to be the last guy). I'll kick it off since I started the thread - if you want in, email me your email address and name and I'll invite you. m.doeden@excite.com

I don't think this violates any DVDTalk rules. There's no affiliate links here & I doubt DVDTalk has their own links for casinos.

[mgbfan]

Well, scratch Reef Club from the list. The match is still there, but the wagering requirement has gone up to 25x. No longer such a sweet deal.

Also, someone on a different board mentioned that you get an extra $25 if you're referred by someone. I cannot confirm this, but ... who knows? Also, people are reporting getting $40 bonuses on top of that for using Neteller. I used Neteller and didn't get it, so it may be a new thing. Again, I can't confirm it.

[moorehed]

anyone care to refer me to Cirruscasino ?

[mgbfan]

Just FYI - it looks like Cirrus is a sticky bonus.

[moorehed]

so do you.

[moorehed]

......................

[moorehed]

the referral email looks surprizingly like spam.

[moorehed]

do you guys give these bastards your phone #s? I hope they never try to call.

[mgbfan]

I always give phone #s in case there's ever a problem. I've only gotten 1 call. A guy wanting to know if I was excited about their new slots torunaments.

I was not.

[El Scorcho]

Just FYI - it looks like Cirrus is a sticky bonus.

Crap, I totally missed htis on their site when I cashed out for $300 with $100 buy in.

So I just went and put $200 on a hand of blackjack and got dealt two 10s against a dealer 18. Whew. ;)

So I cashed out $500, $200 of which will not be redeemable because it's bonus. So I still turned $100 into $300.

[moorehed]

well that blows!!!

[El Scorcho]

Yeah you gotta watch out for these sticky bonuses. My fault :(

[DodgingCars]

So wait... does Casino-On-Net have a sticky?

I guess, even if it does I still made about $100

[moorehed]

no they don't.

now i'm debating what to do at cirrus.

mainly i signed up to give the GF somethign to do while i'm playing poker as she likes BJ a lot (hehe).

i guess if i've gotten the bonus already, even if it's a sticky, i can't cash out any of my initial deposit until working of the bonus?

it's not relaly a big deal, but just trying to think things through.

another problem is i wasn't thinking and deposited 200 instead of 100. wonder if my playthrough requirement will be 8000 now instead of 6000 even though i got the same bonus (bonus + deposit).

did the rest of you get your 25$ signup bonus as well? you should have been sent a coupon code.

[actyper]

You know, how stupid are we here? We should really start a referral train for CoN and Reef Club. Everyone wins - when you sign up, use the referral of the previous guy in the train, then the next guy in the train adds yours. That'll add $50 of bonus money to everyone's deal (unless, of course, you happen to be the last guy). I'll kick it off since I started the thread - if you want in, email me your email address and name and I'll invite you. m.doeden@excite.com

I don't think this violates any DVDTalk rules. There's no affiliate links here & I doubt DVDTalk has their own links for casinos.

lol, this wouldn't happen to be my post from the other board you saw it on would it? Don't care either way.

[actyper]

anyone care to refer me to Cirruscasino ?

I don't have Cirrus, but if you want to try other casinos, they're in my link below with ref bonuses.

[mgbfan]

lol, this wouldn't happen to be my post from the other board you saw it on would it? Don't care either way.

Okay, let actyper start the train!

[mgbfan]

FYI - a little birdie told me that if you go into a live chat witha Cirrus rep, you can ask for a bonus code that is fully cashable. It's 200% on $50 deposit with 10x playthrough (pai gow) and 20x for blackjack/video poker.

This is a good deal. Just be sure if you play Pai Gow that you bet $5, not $1, because the minumum comission is 25 cents.

[actyper]

Well you posted first here, so your first on the train! Unfortunately I already did CON.

$3k waging requirement isn't too bad. $150 is a smaller bankroll than normal though, going have to do $1 or $2 to keep it under control.

[El Scorcho]

Cirrus is already annoying.

I cashed out for $500. Less $200 bonus = $300. Now I have to fax in a consent form and copies of my DL and debit cards since I used a debit card to deposit.

If you're going to use this casino, use NETeller to deposit funds so you don't have to jump through hoops.

[moorehed]

no luck talking to support.

plus i found out since i deposited 200$ instead of 100 my playthrough is 8000$. sweet.

on a better note, the site is extremely fast.

[moorehed]

acttyper, you know of any other good fully cashable bonuses w/~10x requirements that allow games with a reasonable house edge? (bj, pai gow?)

[mgbfan]

Take a look at Intercasino. This month you can get a $100 match on $100. The playthrough is 25x, but don't tune out just yet. The deposit is always cashable. That means you can play and if you ever get down to your deposit of $100, you can cash it out.

In other words - NO RISK!

[El Scorcho]

THat's music to my ears.

I just submitted my DL scan to lassetters.com. $600 comin to me.

And got all of my $767 from CON. And got my $281 from PlanetLuck.

Now all I have is Cirruscasino owing me $300.

[moorehed]

you seem to be having some good luck scorcho.

mgb, is the intercasino 25x on the bonus or bonus + deposit?

[El Scorcho]

Yeah, I've hit some huge double-ups.

On lasseters.com, I hit a double-up for $266. Then last night I hit one on Cirrus for $200.

On casino-on-net, I had a good streak and ran a $50 referral credit to $300 just betting $10-25 a hand.

Helps pay for xmas presents and new toys for myself this holiday season :)

[Spy021]

I bought in with $50 at Reef Club and got my $50 bonus. I managed to play it up to $150 and want to cash out. I think I have met the 25x bonus requirement, but am not sure. I have been using the Comp points (1 pt = $10 wagered) as a guide. It says that I have 136 comp points, so I assume that means I've wagered $1,360 thus far, which should satisfy my $1,250 play through... is that correct?

[El Scorcho]

That's correct.

[mgbfan]

mgb, is the intercasino 25x on the bonus or bonus + deposit?

As I understand it, it's 25x bonus.

[El Scorcho]

Intercasino T&C:

FREE $100 Bonus in December!

Every player, new and old, can receive our FREE BONUS in December! Make your first deposit of the month $25 or more, and we will match it 100%, up to a maximum of $100!

Please note:

Players must wager an aggregate total of 25 times the bonus in the casino before they can withdraw the free money, e.g. Deposit = $100, Bonus = $100, you must then wager an aggregate total of $2,500 in the casino before you can cash out the bonus money and its winnings.

* Your free cash will be credited to one account only.
* This offer applies to every calendar month throughout the year.
* Baccarat, Roulette and Craps do not count towards your minimum wagering requirement .


Blackjack minimum bets as low as $2. No word on Pai Gow mins.

[moorehed]

the dealer has had about 5x as many blackjacks as i have. this kinda sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[El Scorcho]

Hah, you want fishy? The dealer is mathematically supposed to bust 30% of the time, give or take a fraction of a percent.

After about 5000 hands last night doing autoplay, the dealer busted 16% of the time!

[mgbfan]

Are you talking about Intercasino and the fishy dealing or somewhere else?

[moorehed]

it deffinately feels as if cirrus is bending me over and tearing me a new one.

[moorehed]

believe it or not, i busted out at cirrus before reaching my wager requirements.

down 400$ there........ only 200 of my own. i guess after all these bonuses i'm about even :D

[El Scorcho]

Are you talking about Intercasino and the fishy dealing or somewhere else?

I was talking about Goldenreefcasino.com.

Hey, you want a good 30 minute read about a sketchy online casino, a mathematical proof of unfair play, and a bunch of legal correspondence?

Read this. Great read.

http://wizardofodds.com/casinos/casinobar.html

[moorehed]

that's sure how cirrus felt for me ^^^^^ lol.

dealer seemed to be getting an abnormal amount of low cards, and also he seemed to do exceptionally well on my doubles and splits... i am willing just to call it a bad run of cards.

[mgbfan]

Hmm. Seems very odd that you'd be able to lose $400 before you hit that WR. That does seem fishy. Were you keeping your bets small or getting a little crazy?

[moorehed]

all 2$ bets until i had wagered about 2000. at this point i was down about 60 or 70 and found out it was sticky. at this point i just wanted to clear it so i started placing 5$ bets. i followed the sheet on most every move.... ah well.

[El Scorcho]

I busted out on intercasino for $100. Started getting greedy. Lost about 7 hands in a row with big bets.

I think I'm done for a while on the casino kick. Made about $1500, now I'm outta here ;)

Back to the poker rooms!

[moorehed]

cirrus called me today to let me know about some great bonuses they have going on and ask if i liked their software and my experience.

i told them it was hard to like it when i kept losing :)

[El Scorcho]

:lol:

"gimme free money and I'll come back with 1x wager requirement"

[actyper]

acttyper, you know of any other good fully cashable bonuses w/~10x requirements that allow games with a reasonable house edge? (bj, pai gow?)

After CON, Starluck, and Planetluck, the next lowest I believe is Casino County at 15x dep+bonus of 100% up to$100. So $3k wr.

I'm investigating sites with autoplay now, see if its worth it.

[El Scorcho]

BTW, One thing I noticed with the sites that have autoplay (I think they're Microgaming software sites) is that their stupid fucking application runs in the foreground with 100% CPU power. So in turn it completely overheats my laptop and I have to stop playing for 5 minutes.

Only when its in the foreground though.

[El Scorcho]

After CON, Starluck, and Planetluck, the next lowest I believe is Casino County at 15x dep+bonus of 100% up to$100. So $3k wr.

I'm investigating sites with autoplay now, see if its worth it.

Lasseters.com has 200% bonus up to $250 ($125 deposit) that is totally cashable.

200% SIGNUP BONUS - Up to $250.

All eligible accounts will receive the 200% Sign-up Bonus offer on the day of the player's first deposit.
Players participating in this offer will be unable to withdraw funds from their player account until such time as the total of the player's deposit and the bonus funds have been bet/wagered at least ten (10) times or played to extinction. For example, with an initial deposit of $100 and a $200 bonus, the wagering requirement would be at least $3,000 before a withdrawal can occur.
Using the player's deposit and bonus funds to wager on Roulette, Baccarat and Sic Bo does not fulfill the player's obligations with regard to the total amount bet/wagered.
For the game of Blackjack players will be unable to withdraw funds from their player account until such time as the total of the player's deposit and the bonus funds have been bet/wagered at least twenty (20) times or played to extinction.
The maximum percentage based sign up bonus payment receivable is $250.
The percentage sign up bonus does not apply to players who have previously received a Lasseters Online sign-up bonus or who reside in a Lasseters Online non-cash gaming jurisdiction.
The bonus is based on one player registering one cash account only at Lasseters Online.
Lasseters Online reserves the right to review a player's transaction record. If, upon review, it appears that a player is participating in strategies, which Lasseters Online deem to be abusive, we reserve the right to revoke any such bonus payments to the player.
Lasseters Online reserves the right to modify or terminate a promotion at any time for any reason whatsoever without notice.


Their sister site, Ausvegas.com, has $100 bonus on a $50 dep with similar T&C.

Both sites require you to fax or email a scanned copy of your drivers license in order to cash out. And the software is painfully slow. But its one of the best bonuses left after the sites you mentioned.

[succubiss]

Read this. Great read.

http://wizardofodds.com/casinos/casinobar.html

Cool analysis. I've toyed with online casinos, but haven't made the jump yet because of concerns of exactly this possibility.

Code is so easy to manipulate. Plus there is no equivalent of the NGC to at least give the appearance of checks and balances.

Plus I don't think I would gamble well without 2nd hand smoke, 2nd hand cocktail waitresses, and someone to blame for taking the dealers bust card.

[El Scorcho]

Cool analysis. I've toyed with online casinos, but haven't made the jump yet because of concerns of exactly this possibility.

Code is so easy to manipulate. Plus there is no equivalent of the NGC to at least give the appearance of checks and balances.

Plus I don't think I would gamble well without 2nd hand smoke, 2nd hand cocktail waitresses, and someone to blame for taking the dealers bust card.


You're safe if you do your homework. Check for reviews on message boards. Who runs the sites? Stuff like that.

Lasseters.com and ausvegas.com are both run by the australian government. Casino-on-net.com is one of the biggest in the industry. If its one of the biggest, chances are they're not scamming anyone. Same with their sister site, reefclubcasino.com.

Here's a good forum of discussion of about every casino out there:

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/mb/blackjackguy

[El Scorcho]

Diamonddealcasino.com:

Buy $100, get $200 in bonus. Bonus comes in steps:

1) $100 bonus comes after $1500 playthrough. Comes automatically online, and a pop up window will appear notifying you that you've achieved your bonus. However, if you run out of chips before $1500, you can contact customer service via live chat and get the bonus.

2) $100 additional bonus comes via live chat and asking for it. It is not credited automatically.

Total wager requirements: $4500 for $300 bankroll (15x). Blackjack is eligible.

Bought in for $100, cashed out for $275.

[actyper]

BTW, One thing I noticed with the sites that have autoplay (I think they're Microgaming software sites) is that their stupid fucking application runs in the foreground with 100% CPU power. So in turn it completely overheats my laptop and I have to stop playing for 5 minutes.

Only when its in the foreground though.

Yeah just found that out! Doesn't run within Windows, and uses all your cpu so you can't do something else at the same time. I tried Maple Casino, JOB vp wasn't so nice to me. :)

[mgbfan]

Ha - I just did DiamondDeal this weekend as well. Didn't fare as well as you did. Still came out ahead, but was getting hammered down the stretch run of the wagering requirement.

Keeping my eyes open for the next one to try.

[El Scorcho]

I only did as well as I did because I went all in with $150 left about halfway thru the wagering requirement and got dealt 5-3-3-K vs dealer 8-Q.

I was getting worked doing flat betting. I've never seen so many dealer 5/6's turn into 20/21.

[El Scorcho]

BTW, I've read things about DiamondDeal now. Most common complaint is that it's an extremely streaky software. More streaky than your typical random blackjack dealer. Best strategy I've read is to take advantage of the winning streaks using progressive betting and ride through the losing streaks betting the minimum. Flat betting doesn't seem to work as well at DiamondDeal.

[actyper]

lol, I read yours and others posts about Diamond Deal. Seems like the only ones who win are those who get pissed and bet big after their raping!

[El Scorcho]

Haha, yep. Same with Lasseters. Got pissed at losing shitloads of hands in a row, bet big (that time it was $266) and hit. Sometimes you just gotta lay it all on the line. Especially when you're given such a huge deposit bonus.

[succubiss]

You're safe if you do your homework. Check for reviews on message boards. Who runs the sites? Stuff like that.[/url]

Yeah, i'm sure there are legit sites out there.

What really scares me is the ease of access. It would be way to easy to quietly dig myself into a hole from the comfort of my chair. Infrequent trips with "allowance money" is probably the best approach for borderline-compulsives like me.

I'll keep tabs on this thread though. good info.

[DodgingCars]

Casino On Net (888.com) sent me my winnings today (check).

[El Scorcho]

I jsut got an email from DiamondDeal.com that my check is on its way.

Hey, that's awesome! However the email said my check was for $500.03.

Odd. I cashed out for $255.03. Hopefully the $500 one comes so they can take their bullshit streaky software and stick it up their ass. :D

[mgbfan]

Ha! I got my DiamondDeal payment on Sunday via Neteller. Didn't fare NEARLY as well as you did, but still +$87.

On a side note, I tried one of DD's sister casinos, Las Vegas USA, which had a similar deal (100% 10x) and if you thought DiamondDeal was streaky ... forget about it. I busted out at LVUSA. First time I've EVER done that. Granted, by the time I'd been nickle and dimed down to $50, I said screw it and went all-in and lost. But still.

In other words, between the two Main Street Group casinos, my net was -$13. Hardly a tragedy.

[El Scorcho]

in other news

my friend dep'd $1k into cirrus casino

built it up to $7500. I had to call him at 2 am and beg him to cash out $6000 and play with the rest. Thankfully he did.

Now he's working the $1500 up to whatever he can.

Last time I went to bed, he had $10800 that he whittled down to $3500 because I wasn't there to nag him

This shit's unreal.

[moorehed]

dear god. how?

[El Scorcho]

Aggressive blackjack. And drunkenness. Once he builds it up, he starts betting $200-300 a hand. It's insane. Thank god I convinced him to cashout $6000 of it.

[mgbfan]

Wow. That's crazy. I can't even imagine.

[El Scorcho]

Check thsi out.

he reversed the withdrawl

and is now at $18,000+

[Deftones]

Check thsi out.

he reversed the withdrawl

and is now at $18,000+

Isn't it funny that the the people that don't need the money are always the ones that win. :(

[El Scorcho]

He cashed out at $20,400.

Fuck bonuses, apparently its the winning that pays off.

[mgbfan]

Good god. Okay - lemmie see. I got you going on this and you got him going. And he made 20 grand.

When is he flying us all to Vegas? ;)

Sheesh. And to think I was happy with my $222 profit.

[mgbfan]

Check your Reef Club accounts - found $5 in mine.

[Spy021]

It's a far cry from $20k... but just finished my second $200 cashout at CoN from my $150 buy-in. Combine that with the $160 at Reef Club for my $50 buy-in and I'm pretty happy with the return.... if only my 401(k) would perform like that! ;)

[moorehed]

any good bonuses? i need some $$$

[actyper]

Probably won't make $ but...

from OBG.

www.slotsofvegas.com
$77 free no deposit
code = SLOTS77
30x WR (slots only)

I busted out, but playing the cleopatra video slots was fun!

[El Scorcho]

Yeah I tried that SLOTS77 code several days ago. I doubled up on two consecutive hands of blackjack, and then went over to the slots. Didn't get very far. :lol:

Their Cleopatra slot is damn near identical to the "Queen of the Nile" slot that Aristocat games makes for standard B&M casinos.

[moorehed]

very nice! let's hope i get rich.

i did see something weird, on their site it says max 10x withdrawl for the normal deposit bonus... this means if you strike it big you can't cash it all out? weird.

[moorehed]

that went fast. glad it wasn't my 77$!

[actyper]

I really dunno, like Scorcho, I didn't get very far!

Pyramid, Pyramid, .. goddam mummy cat!!!

[actyper]

Holy smokes, mine wasn't gone that fast! What was that, 15 mins?

[moorehed]

think it's even possible to hit a big pull with the free $ on slot bonuses like this?

[El Scorcho]

One thing I noticed about this site --

While running the slot machine games, it damn near maximizes my CPU usage while spinning. Very similar to Microgaming casinos that run at damn near 100% CPU usage while the casino window is active. F'n pisses me off because it causes my laptop to overheat and start beeping at me. So I can only play a little. Stop a little. Play a little. etc.

[mgbfan]

Ha - I did this for the maximum possible $ on spins and it lasted all of ... oh ... 2 minutes.

There's a reason I don't play slots with my own money.

[moorehed]

<B>New Bonus</B>
http://www.madbonus.com/promo.php

Deposit 300, get 300 bonus. Email support, get 150 more bonus in a couple of days.

Appears to be 10x playthrough NOT sticky.

Anyone else confirm that this looks like a good deal? Blackjack counts as well.

[El Scorcho]

Trying to figure out if the bonus is sticky or not. I emailed them and asked.

If it's non sticky, this is a GREAT deal.

[El Scorcho]

Oops, according to wizardofodds.com and casinomeister.com, this casino is on the blacklist for using sketchy software (ElkaSystems/Oyster).

http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/elkasys.html

[actyper]

nm, scorcho beat me to it.

[moorehed]

The owner of an Elka Systems casino contacted the Online Players Association in May 2002 claiming that their games are fair. He invited the OPA to test the games. The tester deposited $50 and played Jacks or Better video poker at $1.25 per hand. The player had no wins and all losses.

This request was instigated probably by the bad press that this software provider has had over the past couple of years. In October 2001, a player of Brilliant Casino had his winnings forfeited because the casino decided the software wasn't random enough. Yeah, right.

Recently, they have been using the name "Oyster Gaming" for their software, but it is the same software only in a different package.

Most of these casinos have a spotty record. They've participated in everything from deceptive spam emails to copyright theft. The following is a list of casinos that use this software, and other related websites that are located on the same server:

haha. thanks for that. i will be steering clear :)

[moorehed]

who wants my pso referral?

[actyper]

AshleyC

if you haven't got one already. Thanks.

[moorehed]

you got it.

[actyper]

thanks man!

[moorehed]

was there a PSO promocode to get double points or somethign like that? i can't find it on their site. perhaps it is expired.

[El Scorcho]

You were supposed to type "FORUM" in the promo box

If you didn't do it when you signed up, they won't go back to apply it

[moorehed]

this is in the PROMO CODE box on PSO when I am reporting that I have signed up for one of their promos?

[actyper]

I think some promos you fill out the confirmation box after you meet the waging requirements so maybe your still in luck.


edit..

Don't know if this link will work but, this page

http://www.pokersourceonline.com/online_poker_promotions/bodog40.asp?btnSubmit=Next+%3E%3E

I'm assuming you did Bodog, cause that referral just showed up. Looks like you missed out because you have to fill out this form to confirm your Bodog account, which I think you already did. Oh well, promo expires Jan 31, if you decide to start another promo before, unless they extend it again.

[moorehed]

nah i got it in time.

do you get $ for every promotion i do? or just bodog?

i don't like bodog a whole lot so far. and i'm scared that they have a sports book as well :)

[actyper]

I get it for every promotion you do after. I'll kick some gc's or small items back to you if you do some more promos after a while. Just let me know if your eyeing something in the store.

I never tried Bodog myself, U.S. only.

[moorehed]

how much do you get? do you get a % of my frequent flopper as well? coo

[actyper]

No, but that would be nice! :) I think it's $10 worth of points per signup for FFP, and most of the other poker room promotions.

[moorehed]

yer rich :D

[El Scorcho]

Dragon Palace casino

http://www.dragonpalacecasino.com/

100% up to $200, 10X WR ---> (B+D)*10

Non-sticky it appears

Reviews here: http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/blackjackguy/vpost?id=281101

[actyper]

Thx Scorcho, if you do it before me, feel free to send me a refer a friend. actyper@gmail.com

[moorehed]

just put in a cashout request to get some $ in neteller. let me know your results and thanks for the heads up!

[El Scorcho]

I'm most likely going to be doing this Thursday night. I'm busy tonight and would prefer to wait for some more reviews of the site. If you guys wouldn't mind waiting I'd love to send you the referrals :)

[Spy021]

I'll probably jump in on this one too, unless the reviews slam it. Throw me a referral as well.

spy021 at gmail dot com

[El Scorcho]

I signed up tonight. Bonus and deposit appears in about 10 minutes, if not, then call.

Please use "DPC275" as your referral when it asks who you were referred by. Thanks :)

I'm not sure if it gets me anything though -- there' snothing on the site that mentions it. Worth a shot though.

After about 200 hands of deuces wild ($1.25 max), I'm up $45 woo

[actyper]

I think I saw somewhere on there the referer gets $25.

[mgbfan]

Let us know how it goes with cashouts Scorch. If I decided to give it a whirl, I'll use you as a referral.

[El Scorcho]

Currently at $350. Not sure how many hands I've played, but I was playing $2 x 3 hands for a long while last night. With a $4000 wager requirement, I only need to play 666 hands at this level. Probably 550 hands after doubling/splitting. Blackjack game seems to be legit. A couple bad streaks here but nothing out of the ordinary that I'm used to seeing on a blackjack table.

[moorehed]

something is fucked up with this thread.

what did you start with EL? and how close are you to the requirement. still waiting for my neteller $ to hit.

[El Scorcho]

I dep'd $200, got $200 bonus.

No idea how close I am to the requirement. I'm going to call tonight and ask.

My neteller took a bit to hit, so I called them up and asked and within minutes it was there.

[El Scorcho]

Busted out, got too aggressive :(

I had split 9's vs a 6 with a $20 bet. Split and got one nine. After two double, dealer turned over 10 for 16 and then got his 5 for a 21 :( Lost half my roll on that one.

Can't argue that though, that's a primo situation. Oh well!

[moorehed]

could someone give me a heads up on how quickly the golden palace "action points" acrue? the website seems to be fairly vague

[actyper]

I don't think even Golden Palace knows how they calculate action points! :) Its something like ex) 500 points are dedicated per raked hand. Depending on how much you contributed to that hand = the number of points you receive.

[moorehed]

yeah that's what i saw in the terms.. but that really doesn't give me any way to figure out how many i will be getting :).

anyways, so far GP sucks. they aren't spreading any games that i want to play in.

[criptik28]

Looking to start playing again (after a 2-3 month layoff)...any recommendations on where to sign up again (for a bonus)? I've used partypoker.com and ultimatebet.com in the past.

[El Scorcho]

If you can handle shitty software and terrible players, I recommend signing up for sportingbet.com poker through ecasinodeals.com. After 500 raked hands at .25/.50 or higher, you get a $100 bonus. Plus you get 600 points at ecasinodeals, which is worth a $60 amazon GC.

(psst referral jsavko ;) )

[criptik28]

Wait, you mean first go to ecasinodeals.com, then click through to sportingbet.com? I can totally handle crappy players...so-so software is OK by me too. I like the sound of the $100 bonus though...is there a minimum deposit?

[mgbfan]

Yes, minimum deposit is $100. It's a soft room and ECD is a great site. Everyone who plays poker should be using it (and/or PSO - personally, I prefer ECD).

[El Scorcho]

To be honest, I screwed up and dep'd $50 and still got credit for the signup.

[criptik28]

OK, signed up and everything. Didn't see where I could put you as a referrer, though.

[criptik28]

BTW, they require 500 raked hands at $1/$2 now. :(

[El Scorcho]

I think they said .50/$1 before but I can't remember. Either way, I played $.25/.50 and I still got the bonus.

[El Scorcho]

If you go through casinomeister.com's link here: http://casinomeister.com/cgi-bin/adcycle1.15/adclick.cgi?gid=6&cid=5&mid=6&id=246

You can get $200 worth of credits for $50 deposit at spinpalace.com. Playthrough requirement is 20x ($4000) and applies to slots only.

Yes, it's slots, but 300% bonus is hard to pass up if you get bored with poker and blackjack one night.

I cashed out for $733 after these two spins:

http://s88311880.onlinehome.us/pics/springbreakslotwin.JPG (Click the link, then go to the address, add a space after it, then hit enter)

http://s88311880.onlinehome.us/pics/springbreakslotwin2.JPG (Click the link, then go to the address, add a space after it, then hit enter)

On the second pic, that would have been $2,000 if the last spring break icon lined up. Damn!

[Wizdar]

error 403: Forbidden!
The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it.
Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated.

[El Scorcho]

Click the link, then go to the address, add a space after it, then hit enter

[Wizdar]

Ah! Much better.

Wow. You don't see slots like that in Vegas.

Thank GOD!!

:D

[El Scorcho]

No joke. But frankly if a slot wants to give me $700, then I don't give a fuck what it looks like :lol:

I won $50 playing poker last night, so I figured what the hell, lets take advantage of the bonus. And after 12 hours, it paid for my Vegas bankroll next month. :D

[actyper]

Is there autoplay?

[El Scorcho]

Yeah, I played for a while because I was bored. THen I went to bed and let autoplay do the work. I autoplayed the last 1000 spins at $1.80 a spin.

Even better is that you can audit your results at the end of it all on their website and see what big hits you had while you were away.

[Wizdar]

Sorry if this has been posted before. I found this site from UPF and was reminded of youse guys. Plus I think the name is hilarious.

www.bonuswhore.com What is a bonus whore
To attract customers, most of the poker sites offer signup and/or deposit bonuses from time to time. Basically they will credit you a percentage of your deposit or else a fixed amount like $25. Once you play enough hands on the site you can collect the bonus money. A Bonus Whore is someone who takes maximum advantage of this free money.

At BonusWhores.com we strive to provide you with the most insightful and up to date information about poker sites and their bonuses available all in one place from professional online card players.

[actyper]

plural. whores

As in, us guys are a bunch of bonuswhores.

* forgot the s in www.bonuswhores.com :)

[Wizdar]

Heh.

If that's the only mistake I make today, I'll be a happy fellow.

:blush: