i heard a local modern rock station play lamb of gods "laid to rest", so now i'm hooked, and would like some suggestions of other bands of this kind (song 2 on the new slipknot is kind of what i like also.
Tony Dvdfan
11-12-04, 02:50 AM
First one that comes to mind for me would be Devildriver. Singer is Dez from Coal Chamber...their website has some of the songs for download.
For some others, how about Fear Factory or Mudvayne?
Josh-da-man
11-12-04, 07:24 AM
Obituary
Carcass
Napalm Death
Deicide
Death
Bolt Thrower
The Black
11-12-04, 07:28 AM
Testament
Meshuggah
The Crown
Dew Scented
The Haunted
At The Gates
Carnal Forge
Mastodon (their cd: Remission)
I'm almost certain you'll like all these bands.
Hiro11
11-12-04, 08:32 AM
Opeth. It's really all you need.
The Infidel
11-12-04, 09:46 AM
Cannibal Corpse. I've not heard much of their stuff (songs with titles like Entrails Ripped From A Virgin's **** tended to make me, shall we say, uninterested), but I remember seeing them appear briefly in Ace Ventura: Pet Detective, and I thought it was funny that, for the purpose of the subtitling, the only way they could interpret the growling lyrics the band's lead singer was spewing forth was "GRRRRRRR! GRRRRRRRR!"
The Black
11-12-04, 09:49 AM
He's looking for thrash metal bands, not death metal as most of you are mentioning!
The Infidel
11-12-04, 09:53 AM
Well, he did say a growling singer. That was all I could think of. Pardon me for trying to help. ;)
Shagrath
11-12-04, 10:47 AM
The Crown, as The Black mentioned is a good thrashy/metal band.
Witchery would also be a good choice.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
dick_grayson
11-12-04, 10:56 AM
In Flames - The Jester Race, Whoracle, Colony, Clayman
Children of Bodom (insane guitar/keyboard solos too) - Hatebreeder, Follow the Reaper
At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul
Dissection - Storm Of The Lights Bane/Where Dead Angels Lie EP
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss
There are a ton more, but this is a great list for starters.
woofman
11-12-04, 12:15 PM
There's a fine line between what many consider thrash, metal, hardcore etc... Especially when you throw different vocal styles into the mix.
That being said:
Slayer- (Classic)You just can't go wrong with them. Reign in Blood-considered by many to be one of the greatest thrash/metal albums of all time. Their latest (God Hates Us All) also shows how timeless great thrash metal can be, 20 years after the fact, they are still ruling.
Lamb of God is also a great example. While listening to their last album "Ashes of the Wake", I often think how it sounds like they must have listened to a lot of classic thrash albums to be inspired to write such great riffage throughout this CD. Highly recommended.
I could go on and on, but start with the fundamentals, and the others will follow.
Old Metallica, Megadeth, Forbidden, Excel, Kreator, Earth Crisis, Integrity, All Out War, Buried Alive etc.......
nodeerforamonth
11-12-04, 12:32 PM
I wouldn't classify Tom Araya from Slayer as a "growling singer". Same goes for Chuck Billy from Testament.
CephalicCarnage
11-12-04, 12:39 PM
Ghoul
The Crown
Vader
Testament(The Gathering album)
Angel Corpse
The Haunted
Pestilence
Sepultura(1st few releases)
woofman
11-12-04, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by nodeerforamonth
I wouldn't classify Tom Araya from Slayer as a "growling singer". Same goes for Chuck Billy from Testament.
Very true,
However, one shouldn't count out great thrash music just because the singer screams instead of growls....
nodeerforamonth
11-12-04, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by woofman
Very true,
However, one shouldn't count out great thrash music just because the singer screams instead of growls....
True, but the original poster wanted growlers.
Actually, I'd do the opposite. I just don't understand the "cookie monster" vocals. Call me old fashioned...
The only "thrash" metal band I can get into these days is Entombed. (I know they're probably not considered "thrash".) Best workout music ever. I tend to think that THIS is what Metallica would sound like today if Cliff was still alive when they decided to go to a "simpler style".
kmcrowl
11-12-04, 08:11 PM
Shadows Fall
Testament Low and Demonic
Hatebreed
Dimmu Borgir
harpo787
11-12-04, 09:19 PM
I'd just like to note here that about a year or so ago I did not like the vocal style that's considered rather harsh (but still not death metal vocals in my opinion). However, in watching the reborn Headbanger's Ball, I've become quite used to it and have come to enjoy it. Sometimes the only thing that'll work (especially in a song of pure aggression) is to scream like a motherfucker. That being said, I'd second (and third etc.) any of the following bands already mentioned:
Shadow's Fall definitely has some growling vocals to it while having what at times reminds me of classic thrash style musical structure, including guitar solos (something I miss in most current metal).
Testament, although I only followed them for an album or two with my favorite being "Practice What You Preach". There's a "scratchiness" I guess you could say to Chuck Billy's voice, and there's an occasional growl. I wonder if there stuff before that album was a bit more harsh in the vocals...
Opeth: as previously mentioned, if you want pretty much all vocal stylings covered...this band has it, and damn impressive guitar stuff to boot, with the average song probably going about 8 to 9 minutes long. The only exception to this is the last album they put out "Damnation". I don't think any songs on that album went beyond 10 minutes, and there was no growling vocals on it at all. I love it, and also thoroughly enjoy the previous two albums as well (I'm not able to find older material in the stores). Can someone tell me, does Opeth's singer use some sort of effect on his vocals for his growl? They're too "perfect", and the fact that he can change the vocals mid song is just....a bit hard to believe.
Slayer: others have mentioned it...truly classic stuff; 'nuff said.
Unmentioned stuff:
Killswitch Engage: newest album had a new singer (who's actually been touring with them for the previous 2 or so years anyway), and he's damn awesome. Most of the vocals on the album are quite harsh, and yet he sneaks in some melodic stuff from time to time. Probably my favorite album I got this year. I dunno...hard to call.
Avenged Sevenfold: another band with a singer who covers all vocal stylings, from crooning that starts to sound like Iron Maiden stuff (one song has a moment that sounds like the crowd chanting moment from "Heaven Can Wait") to damn freaky vocals at times. They too have some really cool thrashy style guitar stuff.
Skindred: sorry...just gotta plug a band that's totally grown on me. Definitely some growling vocals, definitely some good singing vocals as well, and all of it with some bizarro mix of Jamaican/British type sounding vocals. Ragga punk hip hop metal at it's finest (is there any other?)!! The coolest thing is that their music is perfect for remixes, and it seems there band website has a new(?) remix every 2 weeks I think it is. At least, I've not heard any repeat songs, but I've only heard two there thus far, both remixes, both very cool. Also the band sounds great when they play acoustic as well. The sound of the music changes, as do some of the lyrics as well. SKINDRED!!!
Jippy
11-12-04, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by harpo787
Opeth: as previously mentioned, if you want pretty much all vocal stylings covered...this band has it, and damn impressive guitar stuff to boot, with the average song probably going about 8 to 9 minutes long. The only exception to this is the last album they put out "Damnation". I don't think any songs on that album went beyond 10 minutes, and there was no growling vocals on it at all. I love it, and also thoroughly enjoy the previous two albums as well (I'm not able to find older material in the stores). Can someone tell me, does Opeth's singer use some sort of effect on his vocals for his growl? They're too "perfect", and the fact that he can change the vocals mid song is just....a bit hard to believe.
Believe it or not, I think Michael Akerfeldt can do the growl with no effects processing . If you check out the deluxe edition of Ayreon's " The Human Equation", the DVD features lots of footage of the singers recording their parts. Akerfeldt transitions from his normal singing voice into a couple of his grunts effortlessly. Pretty cool to see.
johnbook
11-13-04, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by woofman
There's a fine line between what many consider thrash, metal, hardcore etc... Especially when you throw different vocal styles into the mix.
That being said:
Slayer- (Classic)You just can't go wrong with them. Reign in Blood-considered by many to be one of the greatest thrash/metal albums of all time. Their latest (God Hates Us All) also shows how timeless great thrash metal can be, 20 years after the fact
I could go on and on, but start with the fundamentals, and go the others will follow.
Old Metallica, Megadeth, Forbidden, Excel, Kreator, Earth Crisis, Integrity, All Out War, Buried Alive.
And
Metal Church --- Coroner --- Pantera.
jk4w
01-25-05, 06:25 PM
Listen to GOATWHORE !!!!
cactusoly
01-26-05, 10:38 AM
I wouldn't classify Tom Araya from Slayer as a "growling singer". Same goes for Chuck Billy from Testament.
Actually Chuck Billy used to have a fantastic voice on the 1st 5 Testament albums, and at that point they were one of my favorite bands. Then when Alex Skolnick (the guitarist) left, they lost all of there melody and Chuck went to the Cookie Monster style, and has never been the same since. Sorry but I'm old school, and I can only take the growling in small doses (not on a whole album)
custom001
01-26-05, 11:32 AM
You should check out ARCH ENEMY's latest album "Anthems Of Rebellion"
FantasticVSDoom
01-26-05, 01:18 PM
I would say something more along the lines of All Out War, Poison the Well, Hatebreed...Or more of the new school hardcore bands.
Xander
01-26-05, 01:26 PM
I wouldn't consider Dave Mustaine to be a growler either, but Megadeth is thrash metal. I don't listen to it much any more, but would offer up Pantera as a good choice. Cowboys From Hell was a pretty cool album.
s}{ammer
01-26-05, 05:40 PM
gotta go with killswitch engage, arch enemy and kittie. You could try otep too. Opeth is awsome. Some damn good music mentioned in this thread.
edclem
01-26-05, 06:18 PM
My suggestions:
Opeth
Arch Enemy
Cradle of Filth
Dimmu Borgir
Immortal
Hypocrisy
In Flames
Into Eternity
Dark Tranquillity
Sentenced (not so growly in their new stuff, but they're a great band)
Carcass
Death
Moonspell
Giantrobo
01-26-05, 10:52 PM
Angel of Death's lead singer?
Ozzy's Bat Head
01-27-05, 01:35 AM
Holy Sh*t, Forbidden and Coroner references in 1 thread?! Next thing I know, someone will throw out a Forced Entry or Trouble riff and all hell will break loose!
Glad I stopped in here, I'll have to check out Opeth
BGPu
01-28-05, 02:03 PM
Literal growling?
Caninus
http://www.pitbullgrindcore.com/caninus/
dick_grayson
01-28-05, 02:12 PM
Glad I stopped in here, I'll have to check out Opeth
let me (us) know what you think when you hear them. definately check out the album Deliverence and you'll be blown away
smokedragon
01-30-05, 05:45 AM
Damn! Am I glad I read this thread!
Listening to Laid To Rest right now.Fuckin' awesome! Also listened to some Crown, and Arch Enemy. Excellent stuff.
Thanks guys.
Rypro 525
10-14-05, 05:31 PM
Just thought i'd bump the thread for some artists that i have been listening to recently in that hardcore/metalcore growling style.
Chimera
Mastadon
All that Remains (original shadows fall singer I belive, and when i saw them live in august they had a female replacement basist
slipknot (a tad more like nu metal but still heavy stuff)
mudvayne
also regarding Avenged Sevenfold, I am not sure i would really consiter the singer as a growler (or at least on City of Evil), more of a melodiac singer with some songs that reach 7 and 9 minutes.
Celtic Bob
10-14-05, 05:40 PM
Check out www.metal-rules.com you are guaranteed allot of suggestions there. There is allot of diverse bands covered there.
b.
Hiro11
10-14-05, 08:15 PM
If you haven't heard it yet, definitely check out:
Behemoth: "Demigod": insanely violent and technical proficient metal from Poland. These guys are downright evil. They remind me a bit of Emperor at their peak. This was my second favorite metal album of last year (after Mastodon's unbelievable "Leviathan") Allmusic review:
That their albums usually feel like they end too quickly is but one of the superlatives explaining why so few extreme metal bands have been as consistent as Poland's Behemoth over the years (Greece's Rotting Christ and Sweden's Opeth also come to mind). Having laid the groundwork for this consistency with a slew of promising works in the early '90s, Nergal's bloodthirsty trio arguably hit their stride with 2000's Thelema.6, charged inexorably forward with 2002's Zos Kia Cultus, and, in 2004's follow-up, Demigod, they may well have completed what may one day be looked back upon as their defining, unholy trinity of masterful death/black metal. Lending this bold statement weight is the band's readily identifiable style: a brutal assault built on machine-gun playing so technical and precise, yet so instinctively primal, that one's basest and most sophisticated metallic desires are almost always equally sated. What's more, Behemoth's nerve-shattering death metal onslaught -- relentless though it may be -- on highlights such as "Sculpting the Throne ov Seth," "Conquer All," and "XUL" still allows for much more breathing room than nearly impenetrable colleagues like, say, Nile or Suffocation. As well as being the result of outstanding production quality (a deficiency many metal bands try to hide under overpowering intensity), this relative immediacy owes a great deal to Behemoth's songwriting ability (and agility) with handy devices like searing lead guitar runs, counter-point doom-slow riffs, clever use of sampling, and the odd acoustic guitar bit to ease the tension. Some or all of these increment additional favorites like the title track, "The Nephilim Rising" and the unusually epic "The Reign of Shemsu-Hor" -- all of them good as death metal gets, ever! And, as initially championed above, Demigod is always remarkably consistent, and easily adds another dominant chapter to Behemoth's enviable 00s run.
Meshuggah: "Destroy, Erase, Improve". A classic from 1998, no one else sounds like this band, I like all of their albums.
Allmusic review:
With Destroy Erase Improve, Meshuggah shattered any preconceived notions about what death, thrash, and prog metal could be with one astoundingly accurate, calculated blow. The Swedish outfit managed to surpass their startlingly original, if relatively immature debut, Contradictions Collapse, with a record so pure in concept and execution, it borders on genius. Lyrical themes visualize the integration of machines with organisms as humanity's next logical evolutionary step, while the music backing it up is mind-bogglingly technical, polyrhythmic math metal -- the work of highly skilled men with powerful instruments. While the idea looks unwieldy on paper, Meshuggah handles it with a balance of raw guts and sheer brainpower, weaving hardcore-style shouts amongst deceptively (and deviously) simple staccato guitar riffs and insanely precise drumming -- often with all three components acting in different time signatures. Guitarist Fredrik Thordendal adds an element of weirdness with Allan Holdsworth-style neo-jazz fusion leads that serve as melodic oases amidst the jackhammer rhythms. While such bold, challenging arrangements could result in a wank-fest or, even worse, a chaotic mess, Meshuggah carefully synchronizes their bludgeoning instrumentation, embracing minimalism without excess and playing to the power of the song so the listener isn't neck-deep in over-composed indulgences. As a result, "Future Breed Machine," "Suffer in Truth," and "Soul Burn" are mind-bogglingly profound, integrating body, mind, and soul into a violently precise attack, the point being that change can be extraordinarily difficult -- if not maddening -- but the results are transcendent. While industrial metallers Fear Factory have attempted to tackle similar themes, Meshuggah outclasses them on all fronts, proved by the stunning brilliance of Destroy Erase Improve. The album is a bona fide '90s classic, a record boasting ideas so well-balanced -- natural yet clinical, guttural yet intelligent, twisted yet concise -- it muscled simplistic subgenres out of the way and confidently pointed toward the future of metal.
Osiris
10-15-05, 02:22 AM
No Growl but classic thrash:
Raven
Exciter
Anthrax
cfloyd3
10-15-05, 04:20 AM
I have moved past this part of my life sometime ago where I would listen to this kind of music, but the best band of what your looking for hasn't been said...
Cryptopsy (None So Vile era-the drums are just unbelievable, the voice is repulsive)
Mastodon isn't really this type of band as some people have discussed but they are just the best band out there in a metal/heavy groove type sound. Very good.
Icculus
10-15-05, 11:03 AM
Throwdown (as long as you don't mind a lot of lyrics about how much better they think they are for being straightedge)
Give up the Ghost (American Nightmare before they had to change their name)
Suicide Contest
B5Erik
10-15-05, 11:18 AM
Testament - The Gathering.
Simply a GREAT album.
dick_grayson
10-15-05, 01:37 PM
I have moved past this part of my life sometime ago where I would listen to this kind of music, but the best band of what your looking for hasn't been said...
Cryptopsy (None So Vile era-the drums are just unbelievable, the voice is repulsive)
The drummer, Flo Mounier, is releasing an instructional dvd soon. There are some pretty cool video clips on his web site that will be on the dvd.
Mastodon isn't really this type of band as some people have discussed but they are just the best band out there in a metal/heavy groove type sound. Very good.
I do have a question, are the lyrics and the singer/growler supposed to be mixed so low? I think they are way too low and its hard to hear or understand what he is saying. (the album is suposingly a take on "moby dick"
harpo787
10-17-05, 12:38 AM
also regarding Avenged Sevenfold, I am not sure i would really consiter the singer as a growler (or at least on City of Evil), more of a melodiac singer with some songs that reach 7 and 9 minutes.
Melodiac? Not sure about that... -wink- ...but seriously, on their last album any growl he had is gone. I thought at one point I'd read that the singer had some sort of surgery on his throat and that he'd had to cut the growling out (not literally)...but then read another article and they were saying that they stopped the growling cause everyone's doing it now and they wanted to be a bit different. Still a good album, but now the vocals are a bit more reigned in....did I spell reigned right? I know it's not rained. Shrug.
Anubis2005X
10-17-05, 02:02 AM
I wanna second Killswitch Engage. I found out about them from the free Resident Evil soundtrack that came with Resident Evil 4. Check out songs like "Rose of Sharyn," "When Darkness Falls," and "The End of Heartache." Awesome stuff!
saoirse
10-18-05, 12:48 PM
I have to go with Fudgetunnel!!
Jippy
10-18-05, 12:57 PM
let me (us) know what you think when you hear them. definately check out the album Deliverence and you'll be blown away
I just saw Opeth's sold-out show at the HOB in LA on Sunday. Amazing. The sound mix has always been lousy at this venue in the past, but Opeth sounded great. Michael's got to be the 'funnest' singer of the genre. He talked with the crowd a great deal and thanked us for our support. He even got the band to tease us with Michael Jackson's "Beat It" before launching into "Blackwater Park". (no, I'm not kidding!). Pick up their latest CD. There's some great guitar work as always.
majorjoe23
10-18-05, 01:25 PM
Check out coqroq, they're great!
DodgingCars
10-18-05, 03:55 PM
Actually, I'd do the opposite. I just don't understand the "cookie monster" vocals. Call me old fashioned...
Not quite "Cookie Monster"
http://www.acquastrada.com/hil.html
:)
Mr. Cinema
10-24-05, 01:32 PM
I'm glad Chimaira finally got mentioned.
Vryce
10-24-05, 01:39 PM
Testament - The Gathering.
Simply a GREAT album.
I'll have to check this one out.
When I was a teen, I listened to all this stuff. I really enjoyed Practice What You Preack and The New Order.
My tastes have changed, but within the last week or two, I find myself looking to some of the old music I used to listen to. Sadly, most of it was on cassette tapes and lost in various moves.
One song of theirs that I always loved to listen to, and wish it was longer, was Musical Death (A Dirge). Haunting guitar work and a very moody piece.
The Infidel
10-28-05, 12:33 PM
http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1130461048
kakihara1
10-28-05, 12:46 PM
I have to go with Fudgetunnel!!
YESSS!!! I can't believe someone mentioned them Alex Newport kicks all sorts of ass
Also
Nailbomb
Sepultura (w/Max)
Soulfly (Check out the new Album)
Cradle of Filth
Fear Factory (do yourself a favor and buy Demanufacture you can thank me later)
Poison the Well
Strapping Young Lad
Hatebreed
Beyond Possession (you'll never find it but it may be the greatest thrash album of all time...let me know I may be able to hook you guys up ;) )
D.R.I (The later stuff is pure thrash try "Definition")
cdollaz
10-28-05, 12:55 PM
Basically you can choose any band with a name similar to the following:
Cattle Mutilation
Goatwhore
Nun Slaughter
Fondlecorpse
Hate Plow
Goretrade
Monolith Deathcult
Intestine Baalism
anything with "or" at the end of their name (Oppressor, Immolator, Eviscerator, Destruktor, etc.)
any band with a scandanavian, tolkien, or medieval name (Amon Amarth, etc)
Rypro 525
10-28-05, 12:58 PM
YESSS!!! I can't believe someone mentioned them Alex Newport kicks all sorts of ass
Also
Fear Factory (do yourself a favor and buy Demanufacture you can thank me later)
i am seeing them next month. heard from people at the chimeria show at recher theatre a few months ago, that the new fear factory sucks, and stick with older stuff, true?
orangecrush18
10-28-05, 01:17 PM
I am certainly no expert, but I enjoy Extol and Believer.
kakihara1
10-30-05, 01:09 AM
i am seeing them next month. heard from people at the chimeria show at recher theatre a few months ago, that the new fear factory sucks, and stick with older stuff, true?
Yeah as far as FF is concerned I would get the following
"Demanufacture"
"Obsolete"
"Archetype"
I can't really vouch for the new one yet but it seems promising.
woofman
10-30-05, 10:05 AM
I have to go with Fudgetunnel!!
Chalk up another Fudge Tunnel fan. Creep Diets is classic, I saw them on this tour open up for Sepultura (Chaos A.D.), Clutch, and I think Fear Factory, it's been so long.
saoirse
11-01-05, 07:03 PM
Chalk up another Fudge Tunnel fan. Creep Diets is classic, I saw them on this tour open up for Sepultura (Chaos A.D.), Clutch, and I think Fear Factory, it's been so long.
How bout Malhavoc?
Zodiac_Speaking
11-04-05, 02:14 PM
If you want something like the Great Lamb of God, then get all three of thier cds. I highly recommend Burn the Priest, which is LoG before they switched their name to LoG.
I also highly recommend Norma Jean and As I Lay Dying.
Mordred
11-04-05, 03:13 PM
I'll have to check this one out.
When I was a teen, I listened to all this stuff. I really enjoyed Practice What You Preack and The New Order.
My tastes have changed, but within the last week or two, I find myself looking to some of the old music I used to listen to. Sadly, most of it was on cassette tapes and lost in various moves.
One song of theirs that I always loved to listen to, and wish it was longer, was Musical Death (A Dirge). Haunting guitar work and a very moody piece.Personally I think Testament isn't worth listening too after The Ritual, which was the last album guitarist Alex Skolnick appeared on. He was probably the greatest guitarist to grace the thrash metal scene.
Musical Death (A Dirge) is just unbelievably beautiful, and a piece I forced myself to learn recently. It always seems to turn heads.
Venom
11-05-05, 03:56 AM
RED HARVEST
and if somehow that doesn't please you try; Nun Whore Commando 666.
failing that; Fuck...I'm Dead.
btw, Behemoth is very good, atleast going by their, "As above, So below" song.
also check out Deride, their song "first round knockout" seems to be exactly what you are looking for. infact, everyone check out Deride!
......if by chance someone likes Nun whore commando 666, check out Prosthetic ****'s "Doing Bad Things to Her Butt with My Mind" album. (censored= crude word for vagina)
woofman
11-05-05, 09:22 PM
How bout Malhavoc?
Never heard of em'. Good?
saoirse
11-06-05, 12:44 AM
Never heard of em'. Good?
worth checking out for sure.
imagine Hard core vocals and instruments with cheesy dance beats for fun.
Rypro 525
08-19-08, 06:00 AM
so id figure this thread is worthy of a bump. Anyways thanks, alot of the bands listed in this thread are favorites of mine.
Now i need help seeking out heavier stuff, in the style of Sucicide Silence, Winds of Plauge and Dispised Icon which is constitered 'deathcore' which is hardcore inspired breakdowns with a much deeper vocal almost sounding like a pig squeel at times.
Here's a sample of stuff i'm looking for
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i realize that i prob won't get too many reponses lol, and might scare/scar some people not used to this style of music.
Buy: