When musical scores are remarkably similar...
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When musical scores are remarkably similar...
I watched Wolfen last night and my wife and I both noticed the remarkable similarity between the musical scores of this flick and Aliens. James Horner composed both scores so that explains a lot (much like you can almost always tell a John Williams score). However, both of these scores shared many of the same music cues, melodies and crescendos. It is almost the exact same music, I dare say it IS exact in places.
It makes you wonder if James Horner did this on purpose or if it was accidental.
Can you think of any other film scores that are remarkably similar?
It makes you wonder if James Horner did this on purpose or if it was accidental.
Can you think of any other film scores that are remarkably similar?
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You'll find that Horner is probably the worst about ripping himself off. A lot of times directors and editors will temp in a composer's socre, knowing that he will be scoring the movie later. And usually they fall in love with temp and want the composer to rip themselves.
One score from two different composers that I found remarkably similar was Enemy at the Gates (James Horner), which sounded like a blatant rip-off of Schindler's List (John Williams).
One score from two different composers that I found remarkably similar was Enemy at the Gates (James Horner), which sounded like a blatant rip-off of Schindler's List (John Williams).
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Anyone know why Scream 2 used Broken Arrow's music?
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Anyone know why Scream 2 used Broken Arrow's music?
Anyone know why Scream 2 used Broken Arrow's music?
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I don't remember if Beltrami had tried writing a cue like the Zimmer piece, but Wes Craven liked the temp music so much that he insisted it be used.
Titanic has always sounded like a cross between Goldsmith's Capricorn One and Enya's "Book of Days." Horner is always saying how he never listens to any of his old scores because he wants to new films with a fresh approach. But he was also known to say that he was never influenced by any film composer because he was never a film music fan. That begs to ask why so many of his scores sound like someone else's work?
Titanic has always sounded like a cross between Goldsmith's Capricorn One and Enya's "Book of Days." Horner is always saying how he never listens to any of his old scores because he wants to new films with a fresh approach. But he was also known to say that he was never influenced by any film composer because he was never a film music fan. That begs to ask why so many of his scores sound like someone else's work?
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I don't know what your smiley means - is that a questioning guy, a curious guy, or a farting guy???
If either of the first two -- yes, it's true. Some of the parts of the songs are the same.
If either of the first two -- yes, it's true. Some of the parts of the songs are the same.
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Originally posted by Toad
I don't know what your smiley means - is that a questioning guy, a curious guy, or a farting guy???
If either of the first two -- yes, it's true. Some of the parts of the songs are the same.
I don't know what your smiley means - is that a questioning guy, a curious guy, or a farting guy???
If either of the first two -- yes, it's true. Some of the parts of the songs are the same.
I realize that Williams' scores can be similar (as is the case with all composers), but are you suggestiong that certain parts are identical, or just sound the same to you?
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Proof please. I have a ton of Williams' scores, and none of them sound identical. I also work with music every day, so I'll need some proof.
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Enemy at the Gates sounded a lot like Schindler's List to me.
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Re: When musical scores are remarkably similar...
Originally posted by freudguy
I watched Wolfen last night and my wife and I both noticed the remarkable similarity between the musical scores of this flick and Aliens. James Horner composed both scores so that explains a lot (much like you can almost always tell a John Williams score). However, both of these scores shared many of the same music cues, melodies and crescendos. It is almost the exact same music, I dare say it IS exact in places.
Can you think of any other film scores that are remarkably similar?
I watched Wolfen last night and my wife and I both noticed the remarkable similarity between the musical scores of this flick and Aliens. James Horner composed both scores so that explains a lot (much like you can almost always tell a John Williams score). However, both of these scores shared many of the same music cues, melodies and crescendos. It is almost the exact same music, I dare say it IS exact in places.
Can you think of any other film scores that are remarkably similar?
And...I have to say Titanic and Braveheart aren't really that similar I, save for the occasional bagpipe.
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If it's not bagpipes, Horner also uses Shakuhachi flutes in a lot of his scores. Most times they're quite out of place. His recent score to Bobby Jones: Stroke of Genius was him going back to his Braveheart/Titanic phase.
Bernard Herrmann was once asked why his concert piece, Wuthering Heights, sounded very similar, if not note-by-note to his score to The Ghost and Mrs. Muir. His response in his usual fiery sort of way was: "That's because it happens to be me! I was the composer of both! I sound like myself! ... I have certain earmarks as a composer! ... Copland sounds like Copland no matter what he's writing!"
Bernard Herrmann was once asked why his concert piece, Wuthering Heights, sounded very similar, if not note-by-note to his score to The Ghost and Mrs. Muir. His response in his usual fiery sort of way was: "That's because it happens to be me! I was the composer of both! I sound like myself! ... I have certain earmarks as a composer! ... Copland sounds like Copland no matter what he's writing!"
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Most composers tend to play off various themes, altering them slightly for different movies. And, many movie composers often use classical music as inspiration. I really don't see anything wrong with it.
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Re: When musical scores are remarkably similar...
Originally posted by freudguy
It makes you wonder if James Horner did this on purpose or if it was accidental.
It makes you wonder if James Horner did this on purpose or if it was accidental.