Title says it all. Also, the album title "Bleedthru" is apparently no more.

Couldn't find the last thread discussing the album. If someone links I will update that thread and delete this one. :)

edit: Thread title is incorrect; cd "should" drop in March 2005. No exact date set.

Well, shit. :(

At least the Downward Spiral Deluxe Edition is coming out in two weeks.

Yeah, he's been saying it wouldn't be out until March since 10/18. http://www.nin.com/access/index.html

Hopefully it really is finished this year so next March can happen. The extensive touring is the part I'm excited about.

That's weird, I didn't even know it had a concrete release date yet so I don't know how it could ever be considered "delayed".

big surprise eh

I'm pretty sure 3/05 just means March 2005. 3/5/05 is a Saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to continue my pattern of 5 years between NIN concerts. '95...'00...and hopefully '05.

Trent also said that after this album he "will no longer have anything to do with" Nothing Records and his next album will be released through Interscope.

Isn't Nothing his label?

Originally posted by Rogue588
Trent also said that after this album he "will no longer have anything to do with" Nothing Records and his next album will be released through Interscope.

Isn't Nothing his label?

Not sure. He was involved in a lawsuit with Nothing last year. I can't remember what the circumstances were though.

I thought the latest title of his new album was "With Teeth," no? Anyway, can't wait!

http://www.blistering.com/fastpage/fpengine.php/link/1/templateid/8083/tempidx/1/menuid/1

I'll still be first in line.

I think he meant with teeth as a way to describe the album since it seems like he is scrapping the whole monophonic album idea.

the re-release of downward spiral is tomorrow!

Originally posted by entitee
the re-release of downward spiral is tomorrow!

which is avaialable in 2 versions, sadly I must buy both :(

Hybrid Deluxe SACD edition includes disc 2, the dualdisc however does not.

I don't have an SACD player yet, but I do have 5.1 surround sound home theater system, thus I NEED the dualdisc. And as a big fan, I NEED disc 2.


Track Listings
Disc: 1
1. Mr. Self Destruct
2. Piggy
3. Heresy
4. March Of The Pigs
5. Closer
6. Ruiner
7. The Becoming
8. I Do Not Want This
9. Big Man With A Gun
10. A Warm Place
11. Eraser
12. Reptile
13. The Downward Spiral
14. Hurt
Disc: 2
1. Burn
2. Closer (Precursor)
3. Piggy (Nothing Can Stop Me Now)
4. A Violet Fluid
5. Dead Souls
6. Hurt (Quiet)
7. Closer To God
8. All The Pigs, All Lined Up
9. Memorabilia
10. The Downward Spiral (The Bottom)
11. Ruiner (Demo)
12. Liar (Reptile Demo)
13. Heresy (Demo)

Originally posted by db27
which is avaialable in 2 versions, sadly I must buy both :(


Sadly, I'm leaning towards that myself. Maybe I'll buy one and ask for the other for Christmas.

I'm buying both also, but then again I buy every version/region of every release anyway.

Surprised that TDS didn't show up in this week's Circuit City ad. I was hoping to pick it up at lunch, but it's listed at full retail on the site. I'm not too keen on spending $30 for this.

$20 at Best Buy

Too bad I'm 65 miles from the nearest Best Buy. I went to FYE and CC during lunch. Both only had two copies of the dual disc(CD/DVD) version. FYE had it for $19.99 and CC had it for $14.99. I want the one with the two discs.

I couldn't find the SACD release anywhere today, only the dual disc. I even checked BestBuy's website for in store pickup and none of the locations near me have it yet.

Originally posted by Obey The D
I couldn't find the SACD release anywhere today, only the dual disc. I even checked BestBuy's website for in store pickup and none of the locations near me have it yet.
Hmm, the one I work at had it in, though we only had 8.

I'm diggin the bonus cd. The remix of closer sounds like a similar version to the one at the beginning credits of the movie Seven which I always thought sounded cool

Originally posted by SomeVoices
The remix of closer sounds like a similar version to the one at the beginning credits of the movie Seven which I always thought sounded cool

Actually it's one and the same. The remix is by the band Coil and originally appeared on the CLOSER TO GOD CD single (and does appear in the opening credits of SE7EN) :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005262G/002-3050241-9616004

From what I see, the bonus CD is just a "best of" of the CD singles/B-Sides/Soundtrack contributions that were released in and around The Downward Spiral-era. I have most of them.
:)

Originally posted by darqleo
Actually it's one and the same. The remix is by the band Coil and originally appeared on the CLOSER TO GOD CD single (and does appear in the opening credits of SE7EN) :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005262G/002-3050241-9616004

From what I see, the bonus CD is just a "best of" of the CD singles/B-Sides/Soundtrack contributions that were released in and around The Downward Spiral-era. I have most of them.
:)


I have them all, but this is also remixed in SACD as well, and these are the best of the best so it's a special bonus.

About finding the discs, I found the opposite to be true in regards to who had what. Every store I went to only got 2 versions of the dual disc (literally, 3 different stores told me the exact same thing) and each got a good 20 or so SACDs. This was surprising to me seeing as how the Dual disc is a DVDA and effectively will play at least the lower resolution surround mix in any dvd player. It also has a nice menu and pictures to look at while it plays.

I bought both versions, and have yet to listen to the DVDA version yet. I think I will tomorrow. I compared the SACD to my previous favorite (Darkside of the Moon) and am very impressed. I can't decide which I like more, but since NIN had a much larger influence on my young life I'd lean that way.

Anyway, I can only hope the Fragile and future NIN releases get at least a Dual Disc treatment. I'd love to see the rest of Pink Floyds back Catalog and Tool as well.

I was out and about last night, so I made another FYE/CC run. CC still just had the two copies of the dual disc. FYE had one. No 2 disc sets at either. It's kind of silly for me to want the 2 disc so badly, since I already have most of what's on the second disc. I guess I'm just excited that something new is out. I found a good description of where the second disc is pulled from at http://www.9inchnails.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6961&st=20

burn - on nbk
closer(precursor) - on closer to god
piggy (nothing can stop me now) (halo 10)
a violet fluid (halo 7)
dead souls - the crow
hurt (quiet) - halo 10
closer to god (halo 09)
all the pigs, all lined up (halo 07)
memorabilia (halo 09)
tds (the bottom) (halo 10)
new stuff
ruiner demo
liar demo
heresy demo

Originally posted by darqleo
Actually it's one and the same. The remix is by the band Coil and originally appeared on the CLOSER TO GOD CD single (and does appear in the opening credits of SE7EN) :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005262G/002-3050241-9616004

From what I see, the bonus CD is just a "best of" of the CD singles/B-Sides/Soundtrack contributions that were released in and around The Downward Spiral-era. I have most of them.
:)

I'm torn about getting this. I don't have a SACD player but may get one someday. And I already have all of the bonus songs on the various singles, remix CDs and soundtracks, except for the demos.

The remix of Closer by Coil got me into Coil and their large body of work. Great stuff, very eclectic. Sadly, their singer and songwriter, Jhonn Balance, passed away last week when, in a drunken haze, he fell from a second story balcony and hit the ground headfirst. I believe he was only about 42 years old or so.

Originally posted by RevLiver
The remix of Closer by Coil got me into Coil and their large body of work. Great stuff, very eclectic. Sadly, their singer and songwriter, Jhonn Balance, passed away last week when, in a drunken haze, he fell from a second story balcony and hit the ground headfirst. I believe he was only about 42 years old or so.

Yeah it's definitely my fave NIN remix. That remix and the fact that Clive Barker loves Coil (they even began work on the musical score to HELLRAISER before it was nixed) got me into Coil.
:)

bought the dual disc, haven't listened to it just yet. also, my friend bought the SACD and didn't care for the second disc, thus it became mine!!

yay!

Originally posted by db27
bought the dual disc, haven't listened to it just yet. also, my friend bought the SACD and didn't care for the second disc, thus it became mine!!

yay!


Dude, you let your friend give away the second disc? What the fuck is wrong with you guys! Now he has an empty spot and you have a bare cd with no home! :(









:)

Originally posted by Ergyu
Dude, you let your friend give away the second disc? What the fuck is wrong with you guys! Now he has an empty spot and you have a bare cd with no home! :(

it has a very nice home in my CD player!

what am I gonna do, say no thanks? saved me the double-dip!

which I'd glady do, and may still when I get an SACD player in the next several months.







:)

Originally posted by Ergyu
Dude, you let your friend give away the second disc? What the fuck is wrong with you guys! Now he has an empty spot and you have a bare cd with no home! :(
:)


it has a very nice home in my CD player!

what am I gonna do, say no thanks? saved me the double-dip!

which I'd glady do, and may still when I get an SACD player in the next several months.

Originally posted by db27
it has a very nice home in my CD player!

what am I gonna do, say no thanks? saved me the double-dip!

which I'd glady do, and may still when I get an SACD player in the next several months.

I'm a sucker for cool packaging too, which I must say is something NIN has always delivered on. I really enjoy the SACD packaging.

I am waiting for my copy here in europe, but it doesn't comes out before 12/6 ! D'hoo.

Actually, the Precursor remix isn't exactly like the one in Seven. From various discography FAQs:

A remix of Closer appears in the opening credits of this film. This remix is based heavily on the Coil Remix of Closer (Precursor). It starts 45 seconds to a minute into the track and fades out before the end. In the words of John Balance, the remixer: "Actually, it was an independent remix done exclusively for the film. Based heavily on our Precursor Mix of Closer. We don't recieve a credit in the movie or video release which pisses us off even to this very day. The Lazerdisc DOES credit us in some way. I hate the way the film industry pisses all over the sources they derive their inspiration from."

I bought the SACD and it's great. The 5.1 mix is spectacular - Trent pulled out all the stops. The intro to "Reptile" just seems more disturbing now.

Trent just updated his website answering a few more questions. Most important: he's working on a surround mix on the new album ("with teeth") and hopes to release it at the same time as the stereo mix. He'd also like to do his other main releases this way (including Broken), but isn't looking forward to working with TVT so he can do it for Pretty Hate Machine as well.

-HM

Entertainment Weekly reports in their latest issue that the new album, With Teeth, will drop May 3, 2005.

According to the official site, the cd has been completed. They already have announced some tour dates for London for the end of March. I would imagine (actually *hope*) that the new album is released before they start doing shows! Either way, I'll be first in line for the new album and first in line to get tickets (or maybe just awake to get tix from the presale).

http://www.nin.com/current/index.html
Tracklisting and 30 sec teaser movie posted...
kinda dancy, but I think it kicks ass..

definetly cool...

haven't been to the site in yeeeaaarrrsss...but the site's look definetly reminds me---if not influenced---by designer Helmut Lang's simplistic white/black website.

http://www.helmutlang.com/

http://www.nin.com/current/index.html
Tracklisting and 30 sec teaser movie posted...
kinda dancy, but I think it kicks ass..
Shit!! It's only a few seconds but it sounds awesome. May can't come soon enough.

Pretty cool and pretty worthless, all in the same 30 seconds. It should be a good album, and hearing anything new is exciting. I've always liked what Trent has put out, barring a few remixes.

I'm really looking forward to this. I've recently been in a NiN fad (particularly The Fragile).

Funny that 3/5/05 is right now, if you ready it 3 May 2005. I'm excited about the upcoming tour. I guess many of the shows that have been announced so far sold out in 15-20 minutes. Small venues though.

Tracklist:

01 All the Love in the World
02 You Know What You Are?
03 The Collector
04 The Hand that Feeds
05 Love Is Not Enough
06 Every Day Is Exactly the Same
07 With Teeth
08 Only
09 Getting Smaller
10 Sunspots
11 The Line Begins to Blur
12 Beside You in Time
13 Right Where It Belongs

anyone know, did any of the Dave Grohl recordings make it into the album? Havent been to website, so maybe I should,

anyone
thanks

anyone know, did any of the Dave Grohl recordings make it into the album? Havent been to website, so maybe I should,

anyone
thanks

I'm pretty sure I read on this thread, or maybe another one, that Dave is playing on all the songs, at least the parts that feature live drums, I'm sure drum machines will be on there as well.

Just a heads-up that the SACD hybrid version of The Downward Spiral is on sale at Best Buy this week - $16.99.

I don't have SACD capabilities yet, but plan to in the future, so I picked this up (already have all of the songs elsewhere, except for the three demos).

Funny that 3/5/05 is right now, if you ready it 3 May 2005.

See people! I knew what I was talking about all along. :D

I know some of you people must of heard the Hand That Feeds radio leak this weekend. I grabbed it off alt.binaries.mp3, it is quite low quality, but you get an idea of what the song is. Supposedly someone stole the low quality version from the video shoot and leaked it to dj's.

It's very dancy kinda distorted upbeat bass groove, verse/chorus type song...but I definately like it a lot...the vocals at times are kinda iffy, they almost sound unfinished towards the end...i knew i wasn't going to be blown away, i mean it's a radio single, but it's still pretty damn good,

If you liked that, you should check out The Line Begins to Blur. May can't get here fast enough.

Thanks for the heads up on the line begins to blur.
Just downloaded it, a lot better quality rip than the hand that feeds..
reminds me of a harder day the whole world went away...great song...i'm questioning whether this is a final mix though...but great material for fans to feast on till may.

If you liked that, you should check out The Line Begins to Blur. May can't get here fast enough.

It actually worries me in a strange way that I like the single this much. :) I didn't very much like any of the radio songs from The Fragile. I think Reznor's more "song based" approach may work out for the best; maybe he's one of those artists who actually improves by moving toward the more 'accessible' end of things.

Sounds nice, Definitely the next major release I can't wait for.

If anyone here is willing to share these tracks with a poor soul who has no access to binary usenet groups, please e-mail me at

somethingmore at gmail dot com

-D

You got mail somethingmore

I definitely like "The Line Begins to Blur", but I'm not sure how much. Time will tell. And now I shall abstain from any new NIN until I have "With Teeth" in my hands. May 3rd can't come any sooner... can it?

holy shit folks, i'm going to Boston for both nights for SURE!!!!!

tix on sale 4th to public, 1st to members


5/9: Toronto, ONT (Koolhaus)
5/10: Toronto, ONT (Koolhaus)
5/12: Boston, MA (Orpheum Theatre)
5/13: Boston, MA (Orpheum Theatre)
5/15: NY, NY (Hammerstein Ballroom)
5/16: NY, NY (Hammerstein Ballroom)
5/18: Philly, PA (Electric Factory)
5/19: Philly, PA (Electric Factory)
5/21: Atlanta, GA (Tabernacle)
5/22: Atlanta, GA (Tabernacle)


4:00pm Central Time Zone On-Sale
5/6: Chicago, IL (Congress Theatre)
5/7: Chicago, IL (Congress Theatre)
5/24: Houston, TX (Verizon Wireless Theatre)
5/25: Austin, TX (Stubbs Bar-B-Q)


4:00pm: Mountain Time Zone On-Sale
5/3: Denver, CO (Fillmore Theatre)
5/4: Denver, CO (Fillmore Theatre)
5/27: Phoenix, AZ (Marquee Theatre)
5/28: Phoenix, AZ (Marquee Theatre)


4:00pm: Pacific Time Zone On-Sale
4/27: San Francisco, CA (The Warfield)
4/28: San Francisco, CA (The Warfield)
4/30: Las Vegas, NV (The Joint)
5/30: San Diego, CA (Soma)
5/31: San Diego, CA (Soma)

5/30: San Diego, CA (Soma)
5/31: San Diego, CA (Soma)

Wow! I expected them to be playing larger venues, but I suppose they made up for it by having two shows in most cities. This show should be sweet.

does anyone have the presale link that was included in the email?

Wow! I expected them to be playing larger venues, but I suppose they made up for it by having two shows in most cities. This show should be sweet.

does anyone have the presale link that was included in the email?

Yeah, I'd be interested in that. Interesting choice in venues. Glad to see Phoenix get some love, though. :up:

I believe they are playing smaller venues first, heading to Europe, and then back for arenas.

Looks like I'll be going to Houston mos' def'.

Too bad there's no Florida dates. I don't wanna do the 8 hour drive to Atlanta. :(

Yes...Does anyone have the presale link email? Looking to buy tickets for Houston!

Presale Link
http://www.nineinchnails.tickets.musictoday.com

in for 2 for Hammerstein on 15th.
it sorta sucks they force you to pay a shipping charge on musictoday, no will call, $5 service charge each ticket..$106 total for me...$45 for hammerstein every other venue is cheaper than that..dammit ny, f'in unions.

but hey I get to see NIN :)
Yes...Does anyone have the presale link email? Looking to buy tickets for Houston!

Glad I i've been on the mailing list for so long. That way I could get the presale link to buy tickets when they went on sale.

Oh, wait a minute...I didn't get an email. I only got the link thanks to TripWire. And by the time I went there, I got:

At this moment, there are not enough tickets to fill your request. Please go back and try again. This does not necessarily mean that there are no tickets available. Other ticket buyers are trying to purchase tickets too, and are holding the available tickets.

Other ticket buyers may decide not to purchase the tickets they are holding, and these tickets may become available.

Please go back and try the following to obtain tickets: 1) request a lower quantity of tickets, 2) request a different ticket type, and/or 3) request tickets for another ticket price.
And here I thought Prince had the monopoly on shitty fan interactions..

Wait a minute. He does. At least I didn't have to pay Trent $25 to ignore me..

damn dude..that sucks...
I actually was googling for a presale link and finally found that someone posted it on the suicidegirls messageboard of all places...

I was frantic in trying to get a ticket, so I bought a pair before I posted here.

I am too a bit pissed off I didn't get the link also via email.

Glad I i've been on the mailing list for so long. That way I could get the presale link to buy tickets when they went on sale.

Oh, wait a minute...I didn't get an email. I only got the link thanks to TripWire. And by the time I went there, I got:


And here I thought Prince had the monopoly on shitty fan interactions..

Wait a minute. He does. At least I didn't have to pay Trent $25 to ignore me..

Does anyone know if I could buy more than 4 tickets? I'm buying for 5 of my friends, plus me. And I see that it will only lemme purchase 4 at a time. Could I purchase 4... and then buy another 2 right after? This is for the show in San Diego at Soma... Are there even seating arangements there? I checked their website and came up with nothing. 50 more minutes!!!

If you had 2 different credit cards, probably..
i think maybe the limit thing is if they see 2 orders place with the same card, they could cancel, but I could be wrong.
Does anyone know if I could buy more than 4 tickets? I'm buying for 5 of my friends, plus me. And I see that it will only lemme purchase 4 at a time. Could I purchase 4... and then buy another 2 right after? This is for the show in San Diego at Soma... Are there even seating arangements there? I checked their website and came up with nothing. 50 more minutes!!!

If you had 2 different credit cards, probably..
i think maybe the limit thing is if they see 2 orders place with the same card, they could cancel, but I could be wrong.

Anyone else know if this is true? I need 6 tickets and if I can't use my card twice then all is lost!

That has to have been the worst e-commerce website ever. I realize that it was getting hammered, but I've never had those kind of problems with my cable modem. The site timed out several times and it took 20 minutes to get to the check out screen. When I clicked "Process Order", I get the old "Page Cannont Be Displayed" screen and I when I clicked "Refresh", I was taken back to the beginning and my cart was emptied. When I started the process over again, all of the tickets were gone. Fortunately, I printed the checkout screen and I've filed a complaint, so hopefullly some good will come of this.

W00t w00t... 4 tickets to Soma... Now if I could only get those other two... The tickets aren't shown as sold out yet I can't even purchase one.

I tried getting a couple of tix for the Boston shows right at 4 and the site was ground to a halt. It just hung there. Hopefully I can get some tix on Friday....

jeez, tickets are sold ouf for both of the AZ shows for the presale.

supposedly only 10% of the tickets for each show were for the presale.

jeez, tickets are sold ouf for both of the AZ shows for the presale.

Yeah, Musictoday doing unrestricted presales is a terrible idea. Instant ticketing for their fan clubs where only members who pay the $25-$35 a year go badly enough.

Thank god I'm not the only one who had problems with that pre-sale. For as much as people dislike Ticketmaster at least their servers don't crash when you want to buy tickets, pre-sale or not.

that's not entirely true, I've had timeouts on ticketmaster concerts tons of times...
Thank god I'm not the only one who had problems with that pre-sale. For as much as people dislike Ticketmaster at least their servers don't crash when you want to buy tickets, pre-sale or not.

Ok, well I guess everyone's results may vary. I've had good luck with ticketmaster.com for the most part.

i don't think they have any tickets for sale to regular people, I was in the minute the page changed for the electric factory and couldn't get 2 tickets....TICKETMASTER SUCKS BIG DONKEY DICK

Me too. I had TM on the phone and was refreshing my browser like mad and didn't get squat. The guy on the phone couldn't even pull up tickets for about 90 seconds. Of course, once he did, he said the show was already sold out :(

Ticketmaster sucks..

Finally, my loyalty to the devil has paid off! I waited for hours in the bitter cold outside of theater of living arts and walked out with tix for both shows! I've been a fan forever and can't wait to get my chance to catch Trent at a smaller venue~this will be one of the best shows I ever got tix for. Can't wait!

I too tried to get tickets at 5pm with no luck and therefore was almost late to Motley Crue (philly traffic is awful for those of you who don't know). But I wouldn't blame ticketmaster completely. I would blame the scalpers. Take a look at ebay, tons of tickets for this show going for outrageous prices. The only way to stop this is to not buy from scalpers (or maybe threaten them with bodily harm). If no one would buy from scalpers (or ticket agencies as they like to be called) they would go broke in a week. I feel really bad for those of you who haven't seen NIN live yet, at least I did once on the fragility 2.0 tour.

Here's hoping that they come around again at bigger venues

More like ticketbastard, am I right?

I wasn't able to score tickets this time around, but I'm not too terribly sad over it. I caught them 4x on the last tour, and I have a feeling I'll be able to make it somehow.

I was going to call them ticketbastard, but am new to these boards and wasn't sure about what kind of language I was allowed to use.

Has anyone else ever had to buy through neweratickets.com? I tried this morning for Jimmy Buffett tix and the damn thing crashed halfway through the first time, then I had to clear my cookies to get back in. And thus got crappy seats. And to top it off you have to create an account to buy tix there. I hate sites like that!

I was going to call them ticketbastard, but am new to these boards and wasn't sure about what kind of language I was allowed to use.

Fuck Ticketmaster.

Welcome neilo13! :wave:

ticketmaster and me are best buddies...i'm going to see NIN in TO in May :P

MATT

I've got tickets to both dates in Denver. Got the second date through the presale, and the first date through normal sale. Well, my buddy got them for me, as I was in transit at the time.

By the way, a new With Teeth player is up at http://www.bandbuilder.com/nin/

well, i ended up missing out on the presale tix, however got right in on ticketmaster at 5 and nailed 4 tix, however i was shocked at the location of said tix because i was in right off and the best tix were already in the balcony.

but shit, it's a tiny venue and i'l deal.

may 13th boston ....................sweet!

Update at nin.com (http://www.nin.com/current/index.html)

3_06_05

WE WILL SOON BE ANNOUNCING AN EXTENSIVE LIST
OF NORTH AMERICAN TOUR DATES FOR THE COMING FALL.

TICKETS FOR THESE NEW SHOWS WILL GO ON SALE IN JUNE.


More than likely this will be the arena tour.

Woo Hoo!!

samples from all songs on With Teeth.
Looks like they are just a few measures looped from each song for around 1:02.
You get a good idea of what the album supposed to sound like though..it's old school mixed with new school.



keep in mind these are just small parts of the song, so it's kinda hard to judge..."right where it belongs" is the piano ballad though, good stuff.
enjoy.

enjoy.

I like a lot, seems like there are a few catchy tracks on here. It doesn't seem so down like the other albums, not that there aren't some of those songs on here. Definitely a mix a of new and old.

Any get a Pixies vibe coming off a few of these tracks, specifically Getting Smaller?
Also Only seems like a good dance song.

I can only imagine the remixes Trent will cook up.

Thanks for posting that. Wow! Now I'm really excited.

Looks like THE DRESDEN DOLLS are opening for NIN on most dates. They are a great band, but it's weird to have them paired with NIN:

http://www.dresdendolls.com/calendar/index.htm

http://remisser.com/withteeth/Heh, I like a good scare once in a while.

yeah that link is dead, dude got pissed the link got leaked...
Heh, I like a good scare once in a while.

I love NIN, but I thought The Fragile was just bloated and aimless. It felt like a poor imitation of the previous NIN albums. The stuff I'm hearing from the new album so far sounds like a much welcomed return to form for Trent. Can't wait 'till May!

I love NIN, but I thought The Fragile was just bloated and aimless. It felt like a poor imitation of the previous NIN albums. The stuff I'm hearing from the new album so far sounds like a much welcomed return to form for Trent. Can't wait 'till May!

I agree. I'm rarely a fan of double lps because few artists can actually fill them with good music. I can only take about 75 minutes of NIN before songs start to run together for me anyhow.

yeah that link is dead, dude got pissed the link got leaked...

But what does he have against Springsteen?

And I agree with the comments about The Fragile. It seemed overlong to me, too. I was impressed with the looped With Teeth clips.

Getting Smaller has been leaked...I have listened to it..pretty odd..doesn't blow me away, but totally different direction for NIN..just a balls to the wall rock song..kinda nirvanesque cause of David Grohl...
also..
for the NIN - Downward Spiral DVD dual disc...for those who know about yourmusic.com , they have it for 5.99...pretty damn good price if ya ask me.

for the NIN - Downward Spiral DVD dual disc...for those who know about yourmusic.com , they have it for 5.99...pretty damn good price if ya ask me.

That's weird, the rest of the albums are $5.99 as well. Are they used or something?

for the NIN - Downward Spiral DVD dual disc...for those who know about yourmusic.com , they have it for 5.99...pretty damn good price if ya ask me.Thanks for the headsup! The last time I checked, they just had the regular version of tDS.

nope all new...i suggest that you join the site..it's pretty great, all albums are 5.99 free shipping, lots of dvd/cd combos also...basically a sister site to bmg.
They send you a cd automatically from your list once a month, and you can cancel anytime.

That's weird, the rest of the albums are $5.99 as well. Are they used or something?

Can you order JUST ONE cd from them, and then cancel immediately?

From http://www.nin.com/current/index.html

'The Hand That Feeds' has begun airplay on radio stations worldwide.

The Hand That Feeds single will be released in the UK/Europe on April 18th. It will be available as a 2-track slimline and a limited edition 4-track digipack package. The digipack will only be available for the first two weeks of release. This single will not be released in North America. We will have a limited number of digipacks available to order from nin.com in the coming weeks.

Halo_18: The Hand That Feeds
001_The Hand That Feeds
002_The Hand That Feeds (Straight Mix)
003_The Hand That Feeds (Dub Mix)
004_The Hand That Feeds (Video)

A 9" Vinyl and DVD single will also be available in the UK.


Link to details and picture of digipack. (http://www.nin.com/halo/18/index.html)

I heard The Hand That Feeds on the radio yesterday, and wasn't blown away. While I am a huge fan of Nine Inch Nails, I can't say this is the greatest. It is very catchy, and goth night clubs will love it.
I will most certainly buy the album, and make a much more informed decision then. The Fragile took me almost a year to finally get into.

From http://www.nin.com/current/index.html

This single will not be released in North America.

So does this mean that America will have a *Different* Halo 18 than Europe has? Or do we not get a Halo 18 at all?

(yes, I'm a geek and have every halo-numbered item, except 0, but that was a bootleg anyway...)

-jason

So does this mean that America will have a *Different* Halo 18 than Europe has? Or do we not get a Halo 18 at all?

(yes, I'm a geek and have every halo-numbered item, except 0, but that was a bootleg anyway...)

-jason

I've been reading that the single market here has been pretty well killed off. It sounds like this will truly only be a UK release. I'll probably either pick it up on eBay or nin.com.

I have at least one version of every Halo including the 0 bootleg.

So does this mean that America will have a *Different* Halo 18 than Europe has? Or do we not get a Halo 18 at all?

(yes, I'm a geek and have every halo-numbered item, except 0, but that was a bootleg anyway...)

-jason

Doubtful. He's done this before. Actually, most of the singles are imports. Fixed, The Day the World Went Away, We're In This Together.

It's not much of an issue. Media Play and others have these all the time for about $5.

Doubtful. He's done this before. Actually, most of the singles are imports. Fixed, The Day the World Went Away

Fixed and TDTWWA were definitely made available as US singles. They may be import-only now, but not upon release. I have domestic issues of both of them. You are right about We're in this Together, though.

Are we any closer to a Closure DVD, though?

-jason

NIN.com in the current section is updated with a hand that feeds rehersal vid, pretty damn cool.

Link (http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf.html)

for those of you who haven't heard the song, this basically has the whole thing in the vid.

Thanks for the link, Tripwire. Since you seem to be a headsup for all things NIN lately ;), please be sure to let us know when you come across them limited digipacks [as cheap as possible, please :)].

man I just downloaded the hand that feeds rehearsal video off NIN.com. It is an awesome song....very different. Somewhere between Pretty Hate Machine and Broken.


wlj

I've been reading that the single market here has been pretty well killed off. It sounds like this will truly only be a UK release. I'll probably either pick it up on eBay or nin.com.

I have at least one version of every Halo including the 0 bootleg.

What was Halo 0? Tracklisting?

Suck (same song from Broken track 98) and Supernaut (Track 1 of Wax Trax! Black Box)

Read this on another forum:

"Although some albums have been issued only on DualDisc in the past, the most anticipated CD to get that treatment will be Bruce Springsteen's next one, "Devils and Dust," coming April 26. In May, the new ones from Bon Jovi and Nine Inch Nails will come out exclusively in the dual style."

Also this;
Well the details on the new Nine Inch Nails release "With Teeth" has been released:

There is both a regular version and a Dualdisc version scheduled for release. The regular version will have a $13.98 list price. The DualDisc be a 18.98 list and the features are as follows:
CD side is the full album in stereo.
The DVD side contains the following features:
Album in hi res DVD-Audio surround sound
Album in Dolby 5.1 surround sound
The Hand That Feeds video
In-studio performance videos of 'the collector', 'love is not enough' and 'every day is exactly the same'
photo gallery
lyrics
(this content is subject to change, but that's the word)



I really really hope we also get a SACD the same day! Come on Trent, please!

That video was awesome. I wish I had gotten tickets for this first leg of the tour :(

I'm still hoping NIN does a real Canadian tour (Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver aren't the only cities in Canada, as far as I know...)

I've got all the Halos, too, but I never bothered with bootlegs, unofficial live cds, etc. That stuff never interested me. I DO have the WITT radio promo CD, though. goodtimes. I still need to order Things Falling Apart on vinyl before it goes out of print.

just listened to the single, and coming from someone who was never a huge nin fan, I really like it and look forward to hearing the rest soon.

You can pick up The Hand That Feeds from iTunes now.

the access portion of nin.com has been updated. check it out: here (http://www.nin.com/access/index.html). as always, worth a read.

on a side note: looks like i'll be picking up both the standard and dualdisc versions of the album. NIN is probably the only artist that would even make me consider doing that.

Just bought the new single from iTunes. A little to poppish for my tastes. I'm digging the absence of a drum machine though:)

I especially liked this part on the website in reference to the "With Teeth" DualDisc:

"If you liked TDS in surround, get ready, we went a step further".


:thumbsup:

Anyone going to one of the 'with teeth' listening partys? I'm wondering what they're giving away to those who go to it.

they're giving away 7" vinyl singles of The Hand That Feeds (featuring "Home" on the b-side. "Home" is not on the album). Too bad there's no listening parties in Canada...

Apparently the Japanese version of With Teeth is going to have up to three extra tracks: Home, and two remixes. So yeah, I'll be ordering that as well.

they're giving away 7" vinyl singles of The Hand That Feeds (featuring "Home" on the b-side. "Home" is not on the album). Too bad there's no listening parties in Canada...

in addition to the vinyl, its been said those attending will get a limited edition poster. not sure if thats been changed or only at certain locations but there was talk about that at some point.

i'll be going to the NY Avalon listening party.

Just bought the new single from iTunes. A little to poppish for my tastes. I'm digging the absence of a drum machine though:)

I see what you're saying, but I actually welcome it. Pop sensability has it's place even in music that isn't 'pop'. It's what lets something like 'Climbing Up The Walls' on Radiohead's 'OK Computer to work well, as you're rescued from the ugliness and chaos of it by the structure and beauty of 'No Surprises' right after.

So it might feel better to you in the context of the record as a whole. Hopefully we'll all be happy come May. :)

It's so nice to see a 6 (so far) page thread on Nine Inch Nails. Ummm . . . FUCK YEAH!!

With that said, The Hand That Feeds is a little poppy. But, as a friend of mine said, unrelated to NIN, mentioned 'when did pop music become bad?'
I gave the obvious answer of Good Charlotte, Ashlee Simpson, etc. While they have given a bad name to 'pop' music, 'popular' music is not a bad thing. The new single is going to be popular. It's catchy, radio friendly, and 6 YEARS IN THE MAKING!!

True, Trent apparently had some troubles getting here (becoming sober, label issues, moving), but this will be a fun album. Yeah, fun. Fun usually is not how someone would describe Nine Inch Nails.



Long story short, I'm ready. Bring on the new album. Bring on the 5/3 and 5/4 concerts. I'll be bringing some NIN virgins, and I don't think they will be disappointed.




FUCK YES!!

I like the new single. Straight forward rock. Nothing fancy.

It's just nice to get some decent new music again......

Now if I could just get tix to a live show!

SHIT. I missed the Dallas one. :(

I heard the single today. What the hell happened to Nine Inch Nails? Looking forward to hearing more, but I'm a little worried.......

I heard the single today. What the hell happened to Nine Inch Nails? Looking forward to hearing more, but I'm a little worried.......

you have nothing to worry about. for the record, i'd like to say i like The Hand That Feeds but i can understand how someone could hear it and be frightened by what they hear. sure, it has a pop element to it but i think it works for what it is. with that said, 5 new tracks (4 album tracks and 1 bside) have leaked so far and the other 4 sound much less pop oriented.

the latest track to leak, Right Where It Belongs, is fucking amazing. words cannot do it justice.

this cd cannot arrive too soon.

It's impossible for every Nails fan to be pleased with the new stuff. They'll just have to deal. Speaking for myself, I think this could be Reznor's strongest work in 11 years based on what I've heard. I am of the general opinion that NIN is actually stronger when it goes toward the more 'accessible' side of the spectrum.

I was and still am very underwhelmed by The Fragile although there are a few good tracks in that bloated mess. With Teeth seems like it will be a huge step back into stronger directions for the band.

Looks like the new NIN cd has been leaked already. Wonder if they will push up the release date.

Has anybody else listened to it yet? I think it's alright, I actually liked the tracks that were most dissimilar to his earlier stuff (Getting Smaller, Only). The whole CD is way more accessible than The Fragile though.

I just can't believe it takes him 5 years to come up with songs that sound just like the ones he wrote 15 years ago.

Listening to it for the third time now.
Honestly, it's really refreshing. I can just listen to it and enjoy it, a lot more stripped down earlier NIN stuff, though I love the Fragile also, this is nice to hear something different.

I think this album kicks ass, I'm very happy with it. Standout tracks for me are All the love in the world and right where it belongs..cause I am in a chilled out mood.

I don't think it took him a 5 years to write these songs, from his interviews it almost sounds like he camed up with this stuff in the past year just writing new demos and such. The other 4 years was the whole failure and rehab shit I suppose.

Has anybody else listened to it yet? I think it's alright, I actually liked the tracks that were most dissimilar to his earlier stuff (Getting Smaller, Only). The whole CD is way more accessible than The Fragile though.

I just can't believe it takes him 5 years to come up with songs that sound just like the ones he wrote 15 years ago.

The other 4 years was the whole failure and rehab shit I suppose.

Can you explain the whole failure and rehab situation?

This interview explains a lot...
Link (http://theninhotline.net/archives/articles/manager/display_article.php?id=46)

Can you explain the whole failure and rehab situation?

Thanks for the link. I was curious about that, too. Funny how I can't picture him mountain biking and skiing. :) Glad he's in a better place now, though.

So, I found where to download the album, but there seems to be a part missing in the second song, You Know What You Are. If anyone here feels like sharing the song (I've got all the rest), that would be fantastic. e-mail to somethingmore@whatthegmail.com (remove whatthe)

Thanks in advance. (I'm still buying the CD, DualDisc, Japanese CD, and Vinyl versions)

Has anybody else listened to it yet? I think it's alright, I actually liked the tracks that were most dissimilar to his earlier stuff (Getting Smaller, Only). The whole CD is way more accessible than The Fragile though.

I just can't believe it takes him 5 years to come up with songs that sound just like the ones he wrote 15 years ago.

i had expected to like this cd. i loved The Fragile when it came out and still do, unlike a lot of people for whatever reason. i hadn't been disappointed so far so i figured why should it start now. then i downloaded this cd....and was completely FUCKING BLOWN AWAY!! i had heard a handful of the songs already but they really take a new dimension when heard as a cd and not individual songs. i'm really excited to see the packaging and liner notes for this disc and hear some remixes (heres hoping to some versions of Only, Everyday Is Exactly the Same, and Right Where It Belongs).

as Trip already said, most of these songs came about rather lately after the original batch were scrapped or put on the backburner.

FYI: in an interview recently Trent said that about half of the songs for the next record are already "done" and that he wants to finish it very quickly, possibly within the year. once i find the link i'll edit to add it.

Edit: HERE (http://www.mtv.de/rock/news_long.php?id=17938) is the link for that interview. assuming you can't read German like me, scroll down to the two video links. very good interview, found in two parts.

Official preorder page is up
Link (http://stores.musictoday.com/store/dept.asp?dept_id=6980&band_id=920)

I am getting the dualdisc with picture disc, the shirt is $20 and kinda plain, I will wait to see what else comes as merch.

Standard: $11.99

Dualdisc: $13.48

Standard + T-Shirt: $31.99

Dualdisc + T-Shirt: $33.48

Dualdisc + T-Shirt + Picture Disc: $41.47

DualDisc + Picture Disc: $21.47

Standard + Picture Disc: $19.98

Thanks for the headsup, TripWire :up:

No problem..
but damn just noticed shipping is a bit high..
Standard shipping (Arrival after the release date) $7.64

So...I am basically having to wait past the release date and paying shipping fees to get the Picture Disc extra...decisions, decisions...I will have to ponder this further.


Thanks for the headsup, TripWire :up:

Well, after two listens I can say that this is probably my favorite NIN album. While with other albums there were songs that I thought were GREAT while other songs were just OK, on this album every songs seems to be consistently really good.

My favorite part of the album when listening to it for the first time came at the point on "Beside You in Time" right before it got to the part that had been used in the short promo video on the web site. I had thought that sample was awesome, and I could tell by the way the song was starting to sound that that part was coming up.
Not sure if that needs a spoiler, but I'm glad I didn't know it was coming when I first heard it.


It looks like I'll be getting the dual disc and shirt come may.

No problem..
but damn just noticed shipping is a bit high..
Standard shipping (Arrival after the release date) $7.64

So...I am basically having to wait past the release date and paying shipping fees to get the Picture Disc extra...decisions, decisions...I will have to ponder this further.

you say that like you think you have a choice...

I'd order the picture disc if I could, but being in Canada (that site doesn't ship here), I'm out of luck. :(

Wow... this album was definitely worth the wait... I'm a so psyched now for the concert (not that I wasn't before...but i was worried if the new album was shit....you know)... I can't wait to hear these songs in 5.1 on the dual disc version that i'll be sure to pick up on release day...

MATT

Wow... this album was definitely worth the wait... I'm a so psyched now for the concert (not that I wasn't before...but i was worried if the new album was shit....you know)... I can't wait to hear these songs in 5.1 on the dual disc version that i'll be sure to pick up on release day...

MATT
Yeah, I'm seeing them at Coachella, but now I'm contemplating picking a ticket up on ebay just to see them in a smaller venue.

So psyched about May 30th... Gonna catch NIN at Soma with 3 of my friends :)

but damn just noticed shipping is a bit high..
Standard shipping (Arrival after the release date) $7.64"A bit high"? Shipping for the tshirt, PD & dualdisc is close to $10! And that's to get it possibly after the release date. Not only that, but i'd prefer to get just the PD & the tshirt since i'm sure CC or BB will most assuredly have it on sale when it's released..

Did the LE digipacks come out yet? If so, where'd ya get it?

Found the album and on my god, "Right where it belongs" is the next power ballad. Can only hope it is what closes the setlist on the upcoming tour.

Great album. Have a question though. Near the end of You Know What You Are, the main theme sounds exactly like a past NIN song I just can't put my finger on, or am I just making an association that isn't there? Anyone that's listened have any ideas?

you mean the chorus part where he is yelling don't you know what you are, or the piano outro?
i guess the end to me kinda has some of the aspects of driver down from the lost highway soundtrack..but that's probably totally wrong.

Great album. Have a question though. Near the end of You Know What You Are, the main theme sounds exactly like a past NIN song I just can't put my finger on, or am I just making an association that isn't there? Anyone that's listened have any ideas?

you mean the chorus part where he is yelling don't you know what you are, or the piano outro?
i guess the end to me kinda has some of the aspects of driver down from the lost highway soundtrack..but that's probably totally wrong.
Actually listening to it now, it's right after he's yelling at about 1:55 into the song. I'm guessing I was just imagining it.
EDIT: Found it. Was thinking of a similar sounding part of 'The Wretched'.

I'll have to listen to the songs again to get the specific name, but one of them has a keyboard part that sounds like a Fatboy Slim song. Right before he starts singing in a high pitched voice.

I enjoy the album so far, and will pick it up the first day it comes out. I'm not interested in the shirt, so I won't bother preordering it. I may pick up a hoodie at the concert in a couple of weeks, though.

I'm curious what he is planning on doing with the cd/artwork. He sounds a little disenchanted with the whole process.

So there's going to be a standard edition, as well? I thought that this, along with Bruce Springsteen's newest, was going to be exclusively a DualDisc. Guess I read that article incorrectly.

there was an article posted on theninhotline.net that claimed that the DualDisc was the only version to be released in the US, and that all other countries would only see a standard CD edition. This is definitely wrong, as here in Canada, both versions will be available (though the DualDisc MAY be released on May 10th, but that hasn't been confirmed).

I still wish there was going to be a SACD release.

there was an article posted on theninhotline.net that claimed that the DualDisc was the only version to be released in the US, and that all other countries would only see a standard CD edition. This is definitely wrong, as here in Canada, both versions will be available (though the DualDisc MAY be released on May 10th, but that hasn't been confirmed).

I still wish there was going to be a SACD release.

i thought what they meant was it would not be released in both SACD and DualDisc like TDS reissue. instead it would only be pressed in DualDisc but i don't think there was any question that we wouldn't see a standard cd version. i think that may have been some miscommunication.

"Only" is a real quirky song, it kinda seems like a Down In It 2...supposedly the next single. I like it in a weird way.

Also, if you haven't seen, Trent released Hand that Feeds mix in Garage Band format so that one can manipulate. It has been converted to aiff via torrent for people who just want to throw it in ACID or something.

"Only" is a real quirky song, it kinda seems like a Down In It 2...supposedly the next single. I like it in a weird way.

The two songs actually share a lyric. "Just then a tiny little dot caught my eye" and "the tiniest dot caught my eye", in Down in It and Only respectfully.

Also, if you haven't seen, Trent released Hand that Feeds mix in Garage Band format so that one can manipulate. It has been converted to aiff via torrent for people who just want to throw it in ACID or something.

The compressed file that's up for download contains all of the aiff files in it.

All this NIN stuff has got me feeling so nostalgic. I used to report for The NIN Hotline from '99 till... Idunno, maybe 2001 under the alias "crimsonplague." It was good times.

I actually enjoyed the album more than I had anticipated. I'm looking forward to the show in Houston. Look out!

there was an article posted on theninhotline.net that claimed that the DualDisc was the only version to be released in the US, and that all other countries would only see a standard CD edition. This is definitely wrong, as here in Canada, both versions will be available (though the DualDisc MAY be released on May 10th, but that hasn't been confirmed).

I still wish there was going to be a SACD release.

The release date in the Future Shop system for the Dual Disc is showing as May 3....that could be an error, but I think they're trying to get both in stores on the same date.

MATT

Just so you know you can hear all of With Teeth on the official myspace page, don't know for how long though.

Listen (http://www.myspace.com/ninofficial)

Thanks for the heads-up.

thanks for the link.

Just so you know you can hear all of With Teeth on the official myspace page, don't know for how long though.

Listen (http://www.myspace.com/ninofficial)

Much appreciated :up: will tide me over til the Dualdisc arrives :)

Just so you know you can hear all of With Teeth on the official myspace page, don't know for how long though.

Listen (http://www.myspace.com/ninofficial)

Thanks for the link. I finally get to hear this.
So far I'm disappointed with the first 4 songs, at least on first listen, but after that it picks up and is pretty good. I'll be picking this up Tuesday.

Just got my hands on a copy of "With Teeth". I'm really suprised by how listenable it is. I wasn't really expecting a verse-chorus-verse album from Reznor. I like it, it's just not what I was expecting after the demanding "The Fragile".

Heard the Ghostbusters/ Hand that Feeds mesh?
http://www.gameamp.com/thingsthatrock/the_ghost_that_feeds-256.mp3

I find that most of the songs start pretty badly (ie: The Collector) or end pretty badly (ie: Hand that Feeds) for as long as 30 seconds, or they contain one lyric that doesn't work for me (ie: 'I got my hands in flip flop flip!" in Getting Smaller, but aside from that the song is probably my favourite) That doesn't mean they're "bad songs". In fact, aside from my dislike for certain intro's and outro's, the album is pretty fantastic. Another "bad lyric" is, in Only, he sings "there is no fucking you!" during the chorus. Lame. Without the needless "fucking" in that song, it'd be great for radio (it IS the next single, so we'll see how it's edited; it could be changed like Starfuckers, or it could just be silenced out).

I can't wait to hear it in high-quality DVD-Audio. mmmmmm...

http://www.gameamp.com/thingsthatro...t_feeds-256.mp3

this is one of the worst "mash-up's" I've ever heard. I think it COULD have worked, but this is just... insulting.

I was pretty surprised when I heard the radio single. I was hoping the rest of the album was better. Now that I've heard it, I like about half the tracks, but I'm sure it'll grow on me. I miss the angry Reznor though. I read an interview recently where he talks about the period where he did Downward Spiral, Antichrist Superstar and The Fragile as a really horrible time in his life and how he's in a much better place now. Congrats to him, but I kinda wish he was still there, in that dark place......

Just to let some of you know, the whole album can be heard on my space in one long litsten............it just seems like some of you are not aware of this.

I listened to the entire album twice - Sunspots is hands down the best song and this is one of their best albums to date. I will be buying the cd :up:

Anyone else feel like they bought a cd single with the flimsy packaging? Luckily the music more than makes up for the case.

I was kind of disappointed to not have a lyric booklet/liner notes with the Dualdisc. Does the regular cd version come with this? It says something to the effect of "For complete information, visit nin.com," but I didn't see anything there.

So where's the best in-store price for this thing? Best Buy? Fry's? Circuit City? Tower? Virgin?

No lyric book in any edition, not sure about vinyl, content is viewed on computer when disc is verified with NIN.com, liner, artwork, is then downloaded in pdf form.

I was kind of disappointed to not have a lyric booklet/liner notes with the Dualdisc. Does the regular cd version come with this? It says something to the effect of "For complete information, visit nin.com," but I didn't see anything there.

No lyric book in any edition, not sure about vinyl, content is viewed on computer when disc is verified with NIN.com, liner, artwork, is then downloaded in pdf form.

Well, that's a rip. One big reason why I buy music, rather than just download it, is to get the artwork. It helps to justify the cost. So now I pay regular price for a disc and if I want to have that I have to print out a sub-par copy myself? I really hope this doesn't start another terrible industry trend, like releasing a deluxe edition a few months after a disc's standard release.

That being said, I still bought the DualDisc today.

Yea I understand..I mean I would still buy it for the 5.1 mix and such.
He just got fed up supposedly with having to confine artwork to a cd package since it is a format that doesn't lend well to what he wants to portray. Or...could just be cutting costs.

Well, that's a rip. One big reason why I buy music, rather than just download it, is to get the artwork. It helps to justify the cost. So now I pay regular price for a disc and if I want to have that I have to print out a sub-par copy myself? I really hope this doesn't start another terrible industry trend, like releasing a deluxe edition a few months after a disc's standard release.

That being said, I still bought the DualDisc today.

Well, that's understandable. The heady days of vinyl album artwork are long gone. The RIAA's not making it any better by eating up more precious space with their anti-piracy warning label. It reminds me of when Bill Watterson ended Calvin and Hobbes because of the ever-shrinking space he was allotted on the comics page.

Even though I understand that reasoning, I still don't see why there couldn't be a comprise, like putting artwork with the CD and making it available online. Some artwork is better than nothing and you'd get to see it in all its glory. Or maybe it is a cost cutting measure, like you speculated.

Heard the Ghostbusters/ Hand that Feeds mesh?
http://www.gameamp.com/thingsthatrock/the_ghost_that_feeds-256.mp3

I am silly on the floor laughing at this. It's actually a pretty good song like this!! This is just great.

What's very funny is Ghostbusters itself a rip of Huey Lewis' I Want A New Drug!! Trent, say it ain't so!! Where your cover of Heart of Rock & Roll?

Got my copy [with bonus sticker] this morning at Circuit City. It does suck about the lack of art/booklet, but, damn, does it sound good in 5.1 -- and I love the video too.

Just picked it up. I don't give a shit about artwork so no dissapointments there (although I do actually like the tight packaging and bare bones look)

I love this album and I think NIN has once again broke into new ground (it's amazing how much shit you miss on a low quality recording).

Trent's voice is still fucking dead on - this guy will be singing forever.

the 5.1 surround sound is blowing my ass away at the moment. great album as well.

Yep, the 5.1 mix is great.

Excellent album as well. A little mellow for NIN, but a refreshing change of pace IMO. Especially after The Fragile which I didn't care much for, too much fiiller and instrumental stuff for me.

It's already been said, but the 5.1 mix is stellar. It's very obvious that a lot of work was put into it, rather than the "one instrument per speaker" mixes I've heard.

Now, when can we expect a 5.1 release of The Fragile? ;)

Trent's answer about the packaging.
Link (http://www.nin.com/access/index.html)

I just got the Nine Inch Nails: With Teeth dualdisc. The cd side will play in my car and my Pioneer 563A. But the pioneer plays only part of the dvd side. It recognizes it as a dvd-a, and all the visual stuff works. But both stereo and surround versions do not output any sound, just the visuals. When i play the music video in surround, it plays fine.
Is there any hope of hearing the album in 5.1. All my other dvd-a's and sacd's play fine, never had a problem.
Thanks
Tim

Just picked this up. What can I say I'm really digging it. It's great to hear Trent's voice again, he's an amazing vocalist. I'll be seeing him in Soma and I can't fucking wait. Only listened through once so far but I'm certainly pleased with what I'm hearing, moreso then I was with The Fragile I think.

Hmm, are you playing out of the 5.1 analog jacks or the digital audio...most sacd dvd-a will only allow you to play out of the analog jacks.


I just got the Nine Inch Nails: With Teeth dualdisc. The cd side will play in my car and my Pioneer 563A. But the pioneer plays only part of the dvd side. It recognizes it as a dvd-a, and all the visual stuff works. But both stereo and surround versions do not output any sound, just the visuals. When i play the music video in surround, it plays fine.
Is there any hope of hearing the album in 5.1. All my other dvd-a's and sacd's play fine, never had a problem.
Thanks
Tim

Finally listened to this tonight, start to finish - something I haven't done for any other album in a long time. Wow. I love it. It's only been one listening, but my initial impression is that I like it better than The Fragile. The AMG review brings up a point that I agree with: "Quite frankly, this is the record that NIN should have released if Reznor had wanted to capitalize on the success of The Downward Spiral."

Now I really want to get a 5.1 setup.

Trent's answer about the packaging.
Link (http://www.nin.com/access/index.html)

Thanks for the link. It's good to hear from the horse's mouth, even though I still don't totally agree with him. A PDF file is great for those that get the album from iTunes or somewhere like that (in fact, all artists should do that for downloaded albums), but I still think that those that purchase the physical CD shouldn't be required to have internet access to get the liner notes and lyrics.

And I had to snicker when he wrote "when's the last time you really were impressed with a CD package?" When I read that I immediately thought about how cool the packaging for the Broken CD was and, to a lesser extent, The Downward Spiral.

Picked this up this afternoon and was listening to most of the day at work. I quite like it. I was one of those people who didn't care too much for The Fragile. While the music isn't as intense as Broken or Downward Spiral, it is still a pretty gloomy album. Good stuff.

Hmm, are you playing out of the 5.1 analog jacks or the digital audio...most sacd dvd-a will only allow you to play out of the analog jacks.

My receiver just recognizes the surround part of the DVD Side as PCM. I don't know if I'm getting 5.1 or not. I thought this was supposed to be Dolby Digital.

Trent's answer about the packaging.
Link (http://www.nin.com/access/index.html)

hmm... that raises one question from myself (which I will hopefully be able to answer myself; that is, if my vinyl copy of With Teeth arrives this week).

Will the vinyl release have the lyrics and production information included? I'd like to think that the answer is "yes", because he talks about his love of the vinyl format in comparison to CDs. Unfortunately, my gut is telling me that the vinyl packaging will practically be the same as the CD (just... bigger).

In an interview a few months ago he also complained about how cheap and flimsy booklets are. He goes on to complain that the printing isn't very good. So to counter that he releases an extremly flimsy package and expects us to print out some silly poster on our home printers which are bound to look five to six times cheaper than what he could have provided us with. Not to mention that most people, unless I'm behind on the times, don't have a printer capable of making one large 27x40 inch poster. Time to get the Scotch tape out. He sits there and looks back on the old days and talks about how smaller compact disc's ruined artwork so he goes ahead and ruins it some more. I checked out the Acrobat file and found it irritating to navigate since you have a limited view on the screen. You can zoom out but then you can't read anything. Any time I get a nice, thick, colorful booklet with a compact disc I am impressed. I was very happy with The Fragile packaging but this is insulting. And as far as encouraging piracy, I think he succeeded as one of my friends, who was dead set on buying this yesterday, is having second thoughts and may not bother.

Totally disappointed in the packaging. It doesn't even feel like an album. The packaging looks and feels like some cheap single. Has anyone heard how the packaging for the Japanese edition will be?

I got my copy (dualdisc) last night at Best Buy for $6.99. Some furniture store had it on sale for $6.99 and the girl at the BB checkout did a price match for me. Kick ass.

The 5.1 is freaking sweet.

Will the vinyl release have the lyrics and production information included? I'd like to think that the answer is "yes", because he talks about his love of the vinyl format in comparison to CDs. Unfortunately, my gut is telling me that the vinyl packaging will practically be the same as the CD (just... bigger).

I believe your gut is correct. http://www.nin.com/with_teeth is the booklet for all of the releases.

The track "Only" is my favorite. Reminds me of something off of Pretty Hate Machine, but produced and recorded differently. It'll probably end up getting a lot of radio play, I better enjoy it now before it oversaturates and I start to hate it, hehehe.

Totally disappointed in the packaging. It doesn't even feel like an album. The packaging looks and feels like some cheap single. Has anyone heard how the packaging for the Japanese edition will be?

the Japanese packaging is the same with the exception of the obi strip and a Japanese language lyrics sheet. the packaging issue has been addressed by Trent himself and had it been up to him we'd have seen a much more elaborate package. i was disappointed at first but at the end of the day A. there's not much you can do about it and B. the idea of online pdf files (and the prospect of future files) is an interesting one.

the packaging, to me, does not look or feel cheap nor does it look like a single. when was the last time you saw a double fold digipak single printed on the matte side of heavy cardboard stock? the closest thing i can think of was the TDTWWA single and that was only a single fold. i'm just glad he didn't say 'fuck it' and put it in a jewel case. that would have been truly disappointing.

The track "Only" is my favorite. Reminds me of something off of Pretty Hate Machine, but produced and recorded differently. It'll probably end up getting a lot of radio play, I better enjoy it now before it oversaturates and I start to hate it, hehehe.

Same here (on the pretty hate machine comment). Only is damn good tune and I dig the weird vocals :up:

Same here (on the pretty hate machine comment). Only is damn good tune and I dig the weird vocals :up:

The vocal style he uses on "Only" reminds me of "Once in a Lifetime" by the Talking Heads.

The vocal style he uses on "Only" reminds me of "Once in a Lifetime" by the Talking Heads.

I was thinking more of NIN's "Down In It". All it is is semi-spoken word/singing, there are a lot of songs like that, heh.

The vocal style he uses on "Only" reminds me of "Once in a Lifetime" by the Talking Heads.

First thing I thought when I heard that song.

I'm having a bitch of a time ripping this album to put on my iRiver so I can take it to work with me...I bought the dualdisc - has anyone that bought just the regular version tried ripping this yet?

I have a silly question regarding the Dualdisc version. I bought the regular version today at Best Buy, but haven't taken the shrinkwrap off yet (been watching the Star Wars Music DVD), but I was wondering about taking it back and upgrading. Now, the video and even the 5.1 don't interest me *that* much, but I noticed the Dual version had a "interactive discography". Now my wild imagination is thinking wacky graphics and sounds, like the computer thing Tom Cruise uses in Minority Report, but I'm sure it's much, much less. I do enjoy cataloging things, so is it any use at all?

tks

Well, I can't say I'm overly impressed with this disc. I like it, but it can't come close to touching Downward Spiral.

lordzeppelin,

I had no problems ripping the dual disc. Some drives and players don't like dual discs though, so try another computer if you can and through the files on a jump drive or something to get on your computer and to your iRiver.


I'm really digging the album. Can't really rank it yet, but I definitely like it more than The Fragile.

I'm having a bitch of a time ripping this album to put on my iRiver so I can take it to work with me...I bought the dualdisc - has anyone that bought just the regular version tried ripping this yet?

Ripping the single disc right now with no problem. I'm using dBpowerAMP Music Converter w/LAME.

I have a silly question regarding the Dualdisc version. I bought the regular version today at Best Buy, but haven't taken the shrinkwrap off yet (been watching the Star Wars Music DVD), but I was wondering about taking it back and upgrading. Now, the video and even the 5.1 don't interest me *that* much, but I noticed the Dual version had a "interactive discography". Now my wild imagination is thinking wacky graphics and sounds, like the computer thing Tom Cruise uses in Minority Report, but I'm sure it's much, much less. I do enjoy cataloging things, so is it any use at all?

tks

The discocraphy basically is just a listing of all the different NIN releases (albums, singles, etc). The cool thing is that for each album there are usually 1 or 2 songs available to listen to. It's not really that much more than that.

The album in 5.1 is excellent btw.


Also, for those that would like the lyric sheet printed out but don't want to pay $100 at kinkos, there's a guy at message boards of 'echoing the sound' that is taking a massive order for a print shop to print up the posters for anyone who wants one. If he gets 500 orders than each poster comes out to like $22 after shipping.
Go to:
http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewforum.php?f=7
and find the message 'a batch order for printed WT lyric poster'

Also, for those that would like the lyric sheet printed out but don't want to pay $100 at kinkos, there's a guy at message boards of 'echoing the sound' that is taking a massive order for a print shop to print up the posters for anyone who wants one. If he gets 500 orders than each poster comes out to like $22 after shipping.
Go to:
http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewforum.php?f=7
and find the message 'a batch order for printed WT lyric poster'

to add to what Zodo mentioned...here is the ordering website:

www.werewolffeet.com/poster/ (http://www.werewolffeet.com/poster/)

Looks like I was wrong about the price...comes out to like $30 after shipping.

Still not that bad I guess.

that's a lot for something that was meant to be "free". I can't say I care that much, since I wasn't too concerned about a lyric book anyway.

I must be the only person who ranks The Fragile as the best album...

Yeah, I definitely think this should have come with the freakin album. That or have a mail away option in the booklet to buy the poster for just a couple bucks.

I'm probably gonna go ahead and buy it though, just b/c the poster will look cool on the wall.

that's a lot for something that was meant to be "free". I can't say I care that much, since I wasn't too concerned about a lyric book anyway.

I must be the only person who ranks The Fragile as the best album...

i also like the fragile more than the other releases. i am really enjoying with_teeth however.

also, the vocals on only remind me of a lot of adrian belew's solo stuff...

Wow. I don't have any other NIN stuff, so I cannot compare this to pas