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raven56706
10-12-04, 01:03 PM
Musicians rock for Kerry
Browne, Mellencamp, Raitt, R.E.M., others raise millions
From Phil Hirschkorn
CNN

Tuesday, October 12, 2004 Posted: 1:54 PM EDT (1754 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Some of the biggest names in rock and roll raised millions of dollars in the nation's capital on Monday with a marathon concert aimed at getting out the vote for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry.

Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., the Dixie Chicks, James Taylor, Bonnie Raitt, Jackson Browne, John Mellencamp and John Fogerty led a troupe of artists before a crowd of about 20,000 fans at the MCI Center.

It was the final stop on the Vote for Change tour, which has staged shows in 11 states.

Monday's show was the first that involved all of the tour's headliners.

Over the past two weeks, they had performed separately or in pairs in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, Missouri, Minnesota, Virginia, Arizona and Washington state.

"We're here tonight with a mission, we're here tonight with a purpose," Springsteen told the crowd near the end of his hour set, the longest of the evening. "When I hear all the talk about swing voters," he continued, "It's October 11th. What the hell are you waiting for?"

Most of the artists made brief political remarks to the crowd and a nationwide TV audience tuned in on the Sundance Channel.

Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks addressed the trio's ban from airplay on Clear Channel radio stations last year after band members made comments in opposition to the Iraq war.

"After the incident, people asked me, 'Do you want to take back what you said or apologize?' " she told the crowd, whose members responded, "No!"

"If I did that, Bush would call me a flip-flopper," Maines continued. "So I'm sticking to it!"

John Mellencamp, whose "Small Town" and "Your Life is Now" have been theme songs for vice presidential candidate John Edwards, derided what he said have been chills on free speech under the Bush administration.

"It's our duty to challenge the government," Mellencamp said. "Recently, if you challenged the government you've been called a traitor, and I think that's wrong."

Most of all, the artists urged their fans to vote on November 2, and to do so to remove President Bush from office.

Eddie Vedder, lead singer of Pearl Jam, wore a T-shirt with Bush's face. Above it said "Expired." Below it said "Nov. 04."

"It seems like we got the message across," Vedder told the crowd, "that everyone is going to vote." With all the talk of a "new world" starting on November 3, Vedder said he wanted a visual reminder that election day is on the second day of the month.

"Put up your hands and tell them what day it's on," he said. The band and crowd flashed a peace sign. "That's what I'm talking about."

Longtime political activists Jackson Browne and Bonnie Raitt played together with blues artist Keb Mo. Browne wore a T-shirt with a dove that said "Vote."

"So much hope in the room and out there in the country," Raitt told the crowd.

Browne, Raitt and Mo played Buffalo Springfield's 1967 anthem "For What It's Worth," about loss of innocence and its replacement with fear and violence.

Pearl Jam played Bob Dylan's "Masters of War."

The Dixie Chicks sang with James Taylor, who uttered perhaps the evening's harshest dig toward President Bush. "I hate it when they say 'Don't change horses in midstream' ... if your horse can't swim and he's way over his head," Taylor said.

"Look at the two candidates," he told undecided voters, "And you choose the smart one."

R.E.M. lead singer Michael Stipe appeared in a white suit with a Kerry T-shirt that he revealed during the concert finale.

"We're R.E.M. and we approve this concert," Stipe said as the Georgia band launched into its set, highlighted by Springsteen joining them for "Man on the Moon."

"There's a lot of work to be done," Stipe told the crowd. "It's up to you."

Springsteen returned to the stage with a solo acoustic version of the "Star Spangled Banner" before his E-Street Band joined him. They plowed through the Vietnam-infused "Born in the USA" and "No Surrender," which has become Kerry's campaign them song.

"We remain a land of great promise, but we must move on," Springsteen told the crowd. He said the issues that motivated him to engage in the first partisan political activity of his 30-year career included concerns about civil rights, the environment, instituting a living wage and "humility in exercising our power around the world."

"America is not always right. That's a fairy tale for children," he said.

All the artists packed the stage for two encores: Elvis Costello's Nick Lowe-written "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace Love and Understanding?" followed by Patti Smith's "People Have the Power."

Tickets cost $75 to $180, though some concertgoers paid more for VIP access.

Proceeds went to America Coming Together, a Democratic group targeting voters in swing states in an effort to defeat Bush in November.

ACT, which has paid canvassers in 17 states, estimates the concerts have grossed more than $12 million, before expenses.

New Jersey, which recently emerged as a contested state, will be the site of the final performance Wednesday by Browne, Raitt, Fogerty and Springsteen, who is from the state.

Democrats have no lock on the music world.

A number of performers have expressed support for Bush, including Reba McIntyre, Wayne Newton, Pat Boone, Alice Cooper, Lee Ann Womack, Britney Spears, Kid Rock, Toby Keith, Ricky Scaggs, Brooks and Dunn, Martina McBride, Travis Tritt, Clint Black, Randy Travis and the Gatlin Brothers.

Wow...... the repub's get many country singers.... LOLOLOL

Nazgul
10-12-04, 01:20 PM
I wanna ROCK......for Kerry!!!!

http://www.slugcity.com/archives/iwannarock.jpg

General Zod
10-12-04, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by raven56706
Most of the artists made brief political remarks to the crowd and a nationwide TV audience tuned in on the Sundance Channel.

So who can rightly complain about the Kerry documentary that some stations want to broadcast, but give this a pass?

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=390083

kvrdave
10-12-04, 01:34 PM
good point, but let's ignore it :)

Bandoman
10-12-04, 01:37 PM
b-b-but this is music, man. It's art.

nevermind
10-12-04, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by General Zod
So who can rightly complain about the Kerry documentary that some stations want to broadcast, but give this a pass?

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=390083


but but but it wasn't the night before the election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!














Was that good?

Jam Master Jay
10-12-04, 01:38 PM
You know what would be cool? If a bunch of washed up musicians told me their opinions on politics....oh yeah.. :rolleyes:

RoboDad
10-12-04, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by General Zod
So who can rightly complain about the Kerry documentary that some stations want to broadcast, but give this a pass?

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=390083
Well, I don't know if it is a fair comparison. Since no one actually watched this concert, it may not really count. :p

raven56706
10-12-04, 01:48 PM
oh please......i just put it other.... i am not commenting

Mordred
10-12-04, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by General Zod
So who can rightly complain about the Kerry documentary that some stations want to broadcast, but give this a pass?

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=390083 This was on the Sundance channel, not broadcast TV so equal time rules don't apply, no?

bhk
10-12-04, 02:12 PM
Ah Ms. Maines, singing a different tune now are we?


Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks addressed the trio's ban from airplay on Clear Channel radio stations last year after band members made comments in opposition to the Iraq war.

"After the incident, people asked me, 'Do you want to take back what you said or apologize?' " she told the crowd, whose members responded, "No!"

"If I did that, Bush would call me a flip-flopper," Maines continued. "So I'm sticking to it!"

Shades of Senator Kerry, here is what Ms. Maines said in March of 2003 when fans started throwing her CDs in the dumpster: “As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I feel that whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/corner.asp

chanster
10-12-04, 02:21 PM
Wait! I thought this was supposed to be a non taking sides - "Vote For Change"

kvrdave
10-12-04, 02:35 PM
Yep, just like Sean Penn and P Diddy just want you to vote :lol:

raven56706
10-12-04, 02:46 PM
i swear if people vote for nader because he is just the small guy of the group.... i think then Puff Daddy would leave the country

bfrank
10-12-04, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by General Zod
So who can rightly complain about the Kerry documentary that some stations want to broadcast, but give this a pass?

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=390083

Public airwaves - but hey why let facts cloud this issue.

Contactsport1
10-12-04, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Jam Master Jay
You know what would be cool? If a bunch of washed up musicians told me their opinions on politics....oh yeah.. :rolleyes:


You'd be OK with non-washed-up musicians telling you their opinions? I think Britney Spears (using the term musician lightly) would like you to vote Bush.

chanster
10-12-04, 03:10 PM
Does this mean that all the over the air news stations that covered this sham of a concert have to give equal time to Bush? Somehow I doubt it.

Bandoman
10-12-04, 03:11 PM
Springsteen is "washed up"? :hscratch:

chanster
10-12-04, 03:12 PM
http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4040&n=0&ref=myy

DRG
10-12-04, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by chanster
http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4040&n=0&ref=myy

I love this line for some reason:

"I couldn't ignore all the bad that's going on," said Edmonds, who co-wrote Bobby Brown's 1992 single "Humpin' Around."

kenbuzz
10-13-04, 07:40 AM
For those keeping score:

Pro-Kerry: Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., the Dixie Chicks, James Taylor, Bonnie Raitt, Jackson Browne, John Mellencamp, John Forgery and the Sundance Channel.

Pro-Bush: Reba McIntyre, Wayne Newton, Pat Boone, Alice Cooper, Lee Ann Womack, Britney Spears, Kid Rock, Toby Keith, Ricky Scaggs, Brooks and Dunn, Martina McBride, Travis Tritt, Clint Black, Randy Travis and the Gatlin Brothers.

If performers want to take sides, that's fine. But when they do, they run the risk of choosing a side contrary to their fans' opinion. They're the ones making the choice, so the consequences are their own fault. I don't own any Springsteen or R.E.M., but I do have some Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Browne CDs which I will be throwing away tonight when I get home. I will also be blocking the Sundance Channel on my DirecTV receiver. Thanks raven for posting this article.

Mopower
10-13-04, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by Bandoman
Springsteen is "washed up"? :hscratch:

When is the last time you heard a song of his on the radio that wasn't 20 years old?

Nazgul
10-13-04, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
For those keeping score:




Pro-Kerry: The Dixie Chicks :yack:


Pro-Bush: Lee Ann Womack, Martina McBride :drool:

nevermind
10-13-04, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by kenbuzz

I don't own any Springsteen or R.E.M., but I do have some Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Browne CDs which I will be throwing away tonight when I get home. I will also be blocking the Sundance Channel on my DirecTV receiver. Thanks raven for posting this article.

This is one thing I don't get. Sell the CDs to a 2nd hand store and get some money for them. I doubt Bonnie Raitt & Jackson Browne give a flying fuck if you throw out stuff they already have been paid for. Trade in the CDs and support those artists you want with the money you make.

As for Sundance- isn't that part of the Showtime package? Blocking the channel doesn't do anything, as you're still paying for premium content. Drop Showtime all together and they won't get your 12 bucks a month.



As for me, I have DMB, Pearl Jam, and REM CDs. I don't plan on getting rid of them just because I don't agree with their beliefs. I just download their new stuff from now on :D

kenbuzz
10-13-04, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by nevermind
This is one thing I don't get. Sell the CDs to a 2nd hand store and get some money for them. I doubt Bonnie Raitt & Jackson Browne give a flying fuck if you throw out stuff they already have been paid for. Trade in the CDs and support those artists you want with the money you make.
It's a tough call. If I trade it in, someone else might "enjoy" the CDs. The money I spent is already a sunk cost, though I might just rip the CDs and post the .mp3s so the music can be shared without the artists seeing a dime -- assuming the RIAA doesn't get me first. :)
As for Sundance- isn't that part of the Showtime package? Blocking the channel doesn't do anything, as you're still paying for premium content. Drop Showtime all together and they won't get your 12 bucks a month.
I thought Shundance was part of the Total Choice package. Maybe I'm confusing it and IFC? I don't have Showtime (Viacom) anyway, so maybe it's not an issue.

Chew
10-13-04, 08:24 AM
I was just going to say I get Sundance and don't subscribe to Showtime until I looked up the Total Choice Plus package and found out I'm getting something I'm not supposed to.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/learn/Packages_Comparison.dsp

Granted, I never watch anything on Sundance so it doesn't really matter. :)

LiquidSky
10-13-04, 08:47 AM
I'm going to burn my Britney CDs and DVD of "Crossroads" :lol:

Sundance is a cable channel you have to pay extra to get. The Kerry "documentary" will be on network television .

If the musicians who support Bush want to have a concert tour....I say go for it and I would be fine with it being broadcast on a cable channel. Perhaps Ann Coulter could play the cowbell in Reba's band ;)

nevermind
10-13-04, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by LiquidSky
I better burn my Britney CDs and DVD of "Crossroads" :lol:

That should be done regardless of her political beliefs :D

raven56706
10-13-04, 08:55 AM
my point exactly..... i am a republician and ashamed we have backing of Britney.....


hey.... thank god JLO isnt backing bush....

LiquidSky
10-13-04, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by nevermind
That should be done regardless of her political beliefs :D

Very true! :)

Just found out Reba is for Bush...but I still like her and do not plan on getting rid of her CDs.

Flashback
10-13-04, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Mopower
When is the last time you heard a song of his on the radio that wasn't 20 years old?

He had a lot of play from his Rising album in 2002.

Contactsport1
10-13-04, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
For those keeping score:

Pro-Kerry: Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., the Dixie Chicks, James Taylor, Bonnie Raitt, Jackson Browne, John Mellencamp, John Forgery and the Sundance Channel.

Pro-Bush: Reba McIntyre, Wayne Newton, Pat Boone, Alice Cooper, Lee Ann Womack, Britney Spears, Kid Rock, Toby Keith, Ricky Scaggs, Brooks and Dunn, Martina McBride, Travis Tritt, Clint Black, Randy Travis and the Gatlin Brothers.

If performers want to take sides, that's fine. But when they do, they run the risk of choosing a side contrary to their fans' opinion. They're the ones making the choice, so the consequences are their own fault. I don't own any Springsteen or R.E.M., but I do have some Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Browne CDs which I will be throwing away tonight when I get home. I will also be blocking the Sundance Channel on my DirecTV receiver. Thanks raven for posting this article.


This is the dumbest shit I've read all day. I thought Mel Gibson was a quack with this whole passion mumbo jumbo, but that doesn't mean I won't watch him kick some ass in the Road Warrior on cable. As for the muscians above, just because I don't agree with Pearl Jam doesn't have anything to do with me liking their music. On the flip side, no matter how much I might agree with Travis Tritt's political stance, there aint no way I'm forcing myself to listen to that shit. And Wayne Newton... oh hell no.

Mad Dawg
10-13-04, 11:36 AM
I would sit through politi-speak that I disagree with to see Fogerty live again. He's just outstanding, especially since he lifted his self-imposed ban on CCR material.

Bandoman
10-13-04, 11:57 AM
I went to the "Vote for Change" concert in Philly on 10/1, and the show was incredible. There was very little political commentary, and it was pretty mild when they did say something. I saw 4.5 hours of great music and had to sit through perhaps 10 minutes of political talk.

Springsteen is the best live performer I've ever seen, and that has nothing to do with his political beliefs. Hell, he could announce tomorrow that he believes aliens are among us and we have to build a force field surrounding the entire earth - I'd still go see hin play.

Oh - and John Fogarty rocked. :up:

kenbuzz
10-13-04, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Contactsport1
This is the dumbest shit I've read all day. Originally posted by Mad Dawg
I would sit through politi-speak that I disagree with to see ...Originally posted by Bandoman
was very little political commentary, and it was pretty mild when they did say something.
That's all well and good, but when an ENTERTAINER decides that they're going to preach politics, politics I do not agree with, from a pulpit that I am asked to support with my wallet... I can't do it. I have no problem buying music to listen to and enjoy, but when the artist chooses to include divisive politics in their message, particularly politics that runs opposite my own beliefs and values, I won't support them any longer.

I had the opportunity to go to one of the balls in Washington for Clinton's 2nd inaguration. Friends of mine were in a band that was playing the ball, but I didn't make the guest list cutoff and would have had to pay a hundred bucks or so to attend. Knowing that my money would go to the DNC and be used to support politicians and issues that I disagreed with, I passed on the opportunity. I would've danced with Tipper herself to hear them play, but I draw the line at providing financial support.

Call me overly idealistic if you wish, but I won't knowingly act hypocritcally by putting my values aside to fund -- directly or indirectly -- causes that run contrary to my core beliefs.

kenbuzz
10-13-04, 12:51 PM
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/polling_stoned.jpg

nevermind
10-13-04, 12:53 PM
:lol:

Sad, but I fully expect something similar before the election from that rag.

Mordred
10-13-04, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
That's all well and good, but when an ENTERTAINER decides that they're going to preach politics, politics I do not agree with, from a pulpit that I am asked to support with my wallet... I can't do it. I have no problem buying music to listen to and enjoy, but when the artist chooses to include divisive politics in their message, particularly politics that runs opposite my own beliefs and values, I won't support them any longer.

Call me overly idealistic if you wish, but I won't knowingly act hypocritcally by putting my values aside to fund -- directly or indirectly -- causes that run contrary to my core beliefs. So do you do this with all entertainmentm, or is it strictly related to musicians? Do you only watch News Corp owned stations. Since you obviously hate CBS I assume you don't watch any of their other shows since you're indirectly supporting shows that run contrary to your core beliefs. Of course Viacom owns CBS so you can't watch MTV, Comedy Central, Nikelodeon, VH-1, etc. But why stop at TV stations. You obviously can't watch any movies since just about everything that's come out of Hollywood in the last 10 years features an actor who's spoken out publically against Bush. Entertainment is so shallow though... what about normal everyday products? I'm sure about 50% of the products you use on a daily basis are headed by corporations who's heads give significant donations to Democrats. Do you do extensive research on every product you by to make sure you don't indirectly fund something you don't want to?

Personally, I think you have to draw the line somewhere. Just ignore them if you disagree with their politics. Or you could send me the CDs you don't want anymore. I'd pay for shipping if you have anything I don't.

kenbuzz
10-13-04, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Mordred
So do you do this with all entertainmentm, or is it strictly related to musicians? Do you only watch News Corp owned stations. Since you obviously hate CBS I assume you don't watch any of their other shows since you're indirectly supporting shows that run contrary to your core beliefs. (snip)
Yeah, and when I drive past a billboard owned by a Viacom subsidiary, I cover my eyes with my hands and hope I don't run off the road. -ohbfrank-

I don't watch too much TV news, but when I do, it's always Fox, never CBS/ABC/NBC/PBS/etc. And no, I don't buy Viacom or France or Bruce Springsteen or Michael Moore or Barbara Streisand or Jane Fonda or John Kerry (which is damn hard, 'cause I really like Heinz Ketchup). There are a lot of places where I can spend my money, I simply choose to spend it where it won't necessarily be used to support people whose politics I disagree with.

BTW, thanks for taking such an interest in my buying habits. It's always refreshing to be reminded how important I am to you. :D

LiquidSky
10-13-04, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/polling_stoned.jpg

I give you:

http://www.stereogum.com/img/whitetrashbritney.jpg


Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision he makes and should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens.

Contactsport1
10-13-04, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Mordred
So do you do this with all entertainmentm, or is it strictly related to musicians?


Exactly!

You obviously can't watch any movies since just about everything that's come out of Hollywood in the last 10 years features an actor who's spoken out publically against Bush.

Preach on!

I'm sure about 50% of the products you use on a daily basis are headed by corporations who's heads give significant donations to Democrats.

Amen.

See, I have it easy. I have an equal disdain for both sides, so my guilt/irritation is spread evenly to any party that I accidentally support through my purchases. Much easier to be an independent. You can bitch about everything and point fingers at everyone.

Contactsport1
10-13-04, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
I don't watch too much TV news, but when I do, it's always Fox, never CBS/ABC/NBC/PBS/etc. And no, I don't buy Viacom or France or Bruce Springsteen or Michael Moore or Barbara Streisand or Jane Fonda or John Kerry (which is damn hard, 'cause I really like Heinz Ketchup). There are a lot of places where I can spend my money, I simply choose to spend it where it won't necessarily be used to support people whose politics I disagree with.


This level of partisanship seems slightly psychotic. A little scary actually. -screwy-

Partisan ketchup purchases. Your kidding right.

Bandoman
10-13-04, 02:15 PM
That's it. Im not buying anything ever again.

dork
10-13-04, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by kenbuzz

Call me overly idealistic if you wish
After reading your posts here and in the Other Forum French-bashing thread du jour, "idealistic" is honestly not the word that comes to mind.

kenbuzz
10-13-04, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by dork
After reading your posts here and in the Other Forum French-bashing thread du jour, "idealistic" is honestly not the word that comes to mind.
Heh, you said "du jour". Pretty ironic, you using a french phrase like that.

BTW, I'm happy this thread is all about me now. It's always refreshing to be reminded how important I am to you. :D

dork
10-13-04, 02:26 PM
Unless maybe you meant to say "ideological"? That, I would agree with.

Flashback
10-13-04, 03:15 PM
which is damn hard, 'cause I really like Heinz Ketchup

This is a damn joke right? mfg

kenbuzz
10-13-04, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Flashback
This is a damn joke right? mfg
Nope, I really like Heinz Ketchup (or is it Catsup?) over Del Monte. It's thick and rich and really yummy. BTW, I'm glad you've asked about my ketchup preference. It's always refreshing to be reminded how important I am to you. :D

Okay, I'll stop now. ;)

Mordred
10-13-04, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
Nope, I really like Heinz Ketchup (or is it Catsup?) over Del Monte. It's thick and rich and really yummy. BTW, I'm glad you've asked about my ketchup preference. It's always refreshing to be reminded how important I am to you. :DNo sarcasm intended: Have you tried the W Ketchup that DVDTalk is pimping? I thought that was an ironic joke but apparently I was mistaken.

Contactsport1
10-13-04, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
BTW, I'm glad you've asked about my ketchup preference. It's always refreshing to be reminded how important I am to you.

You brought it up. We didn't wake up and think "let's start a thread about Kenbuzz and pick apart his Ketup purchases". You made the comment, we responded.

kenbuzz
10-13-04, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Mordred
No sarcasm intended: Have you tried the W Ketchup that DVDTalk is pimping? I thought that was an ironic joke but apparently I was mistaken.
Nope, that's a new one on me. Care to point the way, oh ketchup beacon? ;)

Mordred
10-13-04, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
Nope, that's a new one on me. Care to point the way, oh ketchup beacon? ;) It's a banner that's currently in rotation on this site. I've seen it once this morning but 20 refreshes just now didn't bring it up: http://www.wketchup.com/

Now you don't have to support the evil Kerry Ketchup regime! :)

emanon
10-13-04, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Contactsport1
Partisan ketchup purchases. Your kidding right.

I was talking to my sister the other night, and she informed me that her husband had purchased a case of "W Ketchup" - you know the stuff, I believe I actually saw a google ad for it pop up on this very forum!

I'm thinking of marketing some Kerry brand pretzels - you could even dip 'em in W ketchup!


[edit -posted before I read the last three responses to this thread]

kenbuzz
10-13-04, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Mordred
It's a banner that's currently in rotation on this site. I've seen it once this morning but 20 refreshes just now didn't bring it up: http://www.wketchup.com/

Now you don't have to support the evil Kerry Ketchup regime! :)
Thanks for the link. Now I'll never have to worry about my condiment purchases leading toward the downfall of western society as we know it.

And, if we say ketchup enough times, we might fool the DVDTalk google-adbot into adding some ketchup-related advertising to the top of this page. Boy howdy, I sure like ketchup.

Ketchup.

Yum! :D :up:

JasonF
10-13-04, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
Yeah, and when I drive past a billboard owned by a Viacom subsidiary, I cover my eyes with my hands and hope I don't run off the road. -ohbfrank-

I don't watch too much TV news, but when I do, it's always Fox, never CBS/ABC/NBC/PBS/etc. And no, I don't buy Viacom or France or Bruce Springsteen or Michael Moore or Barbara Streisand or Jane Fonda or John Kerry (which is damn hard, 'cause I really like Heinz Ketchup). There are a lot of places where I can spend my money, I simply choose to spend it where it won't necessarily be used to support people whose politics I disagree with.

You do know that the Heinz Family Trust has largely divested itself of stock in the Heinz Corporation, don't you? They still own a little bit, but they own a bunch of other things, too. Not buying ketchup because you don't want to benefit Kerry is like not buying a computer because he might own some shares of stock in Dell. Never fear -- it's safe to eat your Freedom Fries.

BTW, thanks for taking such an interest in my buying habits. It's always refreshing to be reminded how important I am to you. :D

We do it because we care.

Flashback
10-13-04, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by kenbuzz
It's always refreshing to be reminded how important I am to you. :D

Okay, I'll stop now. ;)

-ohbfrank-
Oh please...and you should.

Jam Master Jay
10-13-04, 06:07 PM
it's weird, I could have sworn this topic was changed to say "Muslims rock for Kerry" about 20 minutes ago.....or maybe I was just really high...must be too much of that stoned slackin' ;)

Contactsport1
10-13-04, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Jam Master Jay
it's weird, I could have sworn this topic was changed to say "Muslims rock for Kerry" about 20 minutes ago.....or maybe I was just really high...must be too much of that stoned slackin' ;)

It was.

bfrank
10-13-04, 06:23 PM
it was in fun but someone was offended.

Bandoman
10-13-04, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by bfrank
it was in fun but someone was offended.

I bet it was the French. ;)