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huh?
10-12-04, 07:16 AM
<table width=629 cellspacing=0 border=0 cellpadding=2><tr bgColor=#002175><td colspan=5><font face=arial size=2 color=#FFFFFF><b>Monday, October 11, 2004</b></font></td></tr><tr bgColor=#c1c1c1><td width=235><font face=verdana size=1><b>RESULT</b></font></td><td width=120><font face=verdana size=1><b>WIN</b></font></td><td width=120><font face=verdana size=1><b>LOSS</b></font></td><td width=105><font face=verdana size=1><b>SAVE</b></font></td><td><font face=verdana size=1><b>ATT.</b></font></td></tr><tr bgColor=#efefe7><td><font size=2 face=arial><a href="/mlb/boxscore?gameId=241011115">Houston 12, at Atlanta 3</a></font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6646">Oswalt</a> (1-0) &nbsp;</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5839">Wright</a> (0-2) &nbsp;</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>&nbsp;</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>54,068</font></td></tr></table><p><table width=629 cellspacing=0 border=0 cellpadding=2><tr bgColor=#002175><td colspan=5><font face=arial size=2 color=#FFFFFF><b>Tuesday, October 12, 2004</b></font></td></tr></table><table width=629 cellspacing=0 border=0 cellpadding=2><tr bgColor=#c1c1c1><td width=220><font face=verdana size=1><b>TEAMS</b></font></td><td width=100><font face=verdana size=1><b>TIME (ET)</b></font></td><td width=70 colspan=2><font face=verdana size=1><b>NAT TV</b></font></td><td width=60><font face=verdana size=1><b>TICKETS</b></font></td><td width=150><font face=verdana size=1><b>PITCHERS</b></font></td></tr><tr bgColor=#efefe7><td><font size=2 face=arial>Boston at NY Yankees</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>8:00 PM</font></td><td colspan=2><font size=2 face=arial>FOX</FONT></TD><td><font size=2 face=arial><a href="http://proxy.espn.go.com/keyword/searchResults?search=New+York+Yankees+Tickets&searchType=1&site=espn"><b>Tickets</b></a></font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial><a href="/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4267">Schilling</a> at <a href="/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4715">Mussina</a></font></td></tr></table><p><table width=629 cellspacing=0 border=0 cellpadding=2><tr bgColor=#002175><td colspan=5><font face=arial size=2 color=#FFFFFF><b>Wednesday, October 13, 2004</b></font></td></tr></table><table width=629 cellspacing=0 border=0 cellpadding=2><tr bgColor=#c1c1c1><td width=220><font face=verdana size=1><b>TEAMS</b></font></td><td width=100><font face=verdana size=1><b>TIME (ET)</b></font></td><td width=70 colspan=2><font face=verdana size=1><b>NAT TV</b></font></td><td width=60><font face=verdana size=1><b>TICKETS</b></font></td><td width=150><font face=verdana size=1><b>PITCHERS</b></font></td></tr><tr bgColor=#efefe7><td><font size=2 face=arial>Boston at NY Yankees</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>8:19 PM</font></td><td colspan=2><font size=2 face=arial>FOX</FONT></TD><td><font size=2 face=arial><a href="http://proxy.espn.go.com/keyword/searchResults?search=New+York+Yankees+Tickets&searchType=1&site=espn"><b>Tickets</b></a></font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial><a href="/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4875">Martinez</a> at <a href="/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5235">Lieber</a></font></td></tr><tr><td><font size=2 face=arial>Houston at St. Louis</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>8:19 PM</font></td><td colspan=2><font size=2 face=arial>FOX</FONT></TD><td><font size=2 face=arial><a href="http://proxy.espn.go.com/keyword/searchResults?search=St.+Louis+Cardinals+Tickets&searchType=1&site=espn"><b>Tickets</b></a></font></td><td>&nbsp;</td></tr></table>

huh?
10-12-04, 07:17 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="629"> <tr> <td colspan="10"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="TSubTitle">&nbsp;</td> <td class="TSubTitle" align="center"> AL DIVISION SERIES GAMES OF OCT 12, 2004 </td> <td class="TSubTitle" align="right"><a href="#NL"><span class="TSubTitle">Click for NL </span></a></td> </tr> </table> </td> </tr><tr> <td class="TMSubHead" colspan="10" align="left"> <b>Boston Red Sox at New York Yankees, 8:05 p.m. ET</b> </td> </tr> <!-- Away Pitcher Probable Stats - Start --> <tr> <td class="TData1" rowspan="4"> <img alt="CURT SCHILLING" src="http://i.cnn.net/si/images/baseball/mlb/players/4267_small.jpg"/> </td> <td class="TData2" align="left"> <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/4267/">Curt Schilling</a> </td> <td class="TData2" align="center">W-L</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">IP</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">H</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">ER</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">BB</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">K</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">HR</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">ERA</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="TData1" align="left">Postseason</td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 1-0 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 6.2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 9 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 4 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 2.70 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="TData1" align="left">Last 3 Games</td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 2-0 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 21.2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 13 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 4 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 7 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 24 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 1.66 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="TData1" align="left"> Career vs. New York </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 3-2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 47.2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 44 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 25 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 22 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 48 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 7 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 4.72 </td> </tr> <!-- Away Pitcher Probable Stats - End --> <!-- Home Pitcher Probable Stats - Start --> <tr> <td class="TData1" rowspan="4"> <img alt="MIKE MUSSINA" src="http://i.cnn.net/si/images/baseball/mlb/players/4715_small.jpg"/> </td> <td class="TData2" align="left"> <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/4715/">Mike Mussina</a> </td> <td class="TData2" align="center">W-L</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">IP</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">H</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">ER</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">BB</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">K</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">HR</td> <td class="TData2" align="center">ERA</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="TData1" align="left">Postseason</td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 0-1 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 7.0 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 7 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 1 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 7 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 1 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 2.57 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="TData1" align="left">Last 3 Games</td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 0-1 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 19.0 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 19 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 8 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 8 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 16 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 4 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 3.79 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="TData1" align="left"> Career vs. Boston </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 17-12 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 294.2 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 257 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 102 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 75 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 258 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 25 </td> <td class="TData1" align="right"> 3.12 </td> </tr> <!-- Home Pitcher Probable Stats - End --></table>

huh?
10-12-04, 07:21 AM
This is it. No more talking.

Schilling/Mussina...

Yanks/Sox...

October...


Let's get this thing started.

B.A.
10-12-04, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by huh?
Let's get this thing started. Damnit - now I have the fucking song in my head! When will they stop using that freaking thing!?!

Goooooooooooooo RedSaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawks!

raven56706
10-12-04, 08:53 AM
Goo Yankeesssss

raven56706
10-12-04, 08:55 AM
its going to be a hard one..... but if the yankees can beat schilling, then all will come to pass again...... but if they cant..... well.....

The yankees will still win in 7

welb25
10-12-04, 09:33 AM
I am just hoping the Yanks don't get swept by the juggernaut that is the Red Sox. ;)

raven56706
10-12-04, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by welb25
I am just hoping the Yanks don't get swept by the juggernaut that is the Red Sox. ;)

That may be so but be prepared to feel the darkside of the force
;)

welb25
10-12-04, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by raven56706
That may be so but be prepared to feel the darkside of the force
;)

I'm a Yankee fan and I'm sure the darkside of the force will rear it's head. I just meant that after hearing how good the Red Sox are the last couple of days I am just hoping the lowly Yanks can get a game. ;)

raven56706
10-12-04, 09:52 AM
they will....... come on.... the red sox have a great team (pitching and all) but the Yankees always find a way...... 63 comefrom behind victories.......

If we solved Santana..... we can solve Schilling and we certainly solved Martinez

Phil L.
10-12-04, 09:56 AM
IMO, this Yankee/Sawx series has more appeal, and will likely be more exciting then the World Series.
Regardless of which teams end up being in the WS.

I would go as far as to say this series even has more national appeal. You can go anywhere in the country and find Yankee/Red Sox die hard fans and die hard haters (alright, well mostly Yankee haters, but that's just cause they are jealous :p)

This series is going to be tough for the Yankees.
It goes 7 games, and the Yanks find a way to pull off a win in game 7.

welb25
10-12-04, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by raven56706
they will....... come on.... the red sox have a great team (pitching and all) but the Yankees always find a way...... 63 comefrom behind victories.......

If we solved Santana..... we can solve Schilling and we certainly solved Martinez

just being sarcastic. I would be shocked if this series was a sweep either way. The Yanks put 7 earned runs on Schill in Fenway earlier this season so you know they can do it, although it is October and Schilling is so tough in the postseason. It should be fun.

welb25
10-12-04, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Phil L.
IMO, this Yankee/Sawx series has more appeal, and will likely be more exciting then the World Series.
Regardless of which teams end up being in the WS.

I would go as far as to say this series even has more national appeal. You can go anywhere in the country and find Yankee/Red Sox die hard fans and die hard haters (alright, well mostly Yankee haters, but that's just cause they are jealous :p)

This series is going to be tough for the Yankees.
It goes 7 games, and the Yanks find a way to pull off a win in game 7.

I agree Phil L., but a WS matchup between the Yanks/Sox winner and the Astros/Cardinals winner will have just about as much offensive firepower as the Yanks/Red Sox and should be fun to watch, it just wouldn't be as compelling from a rivalry standpoint.

namrfumot
10-12-04, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by raven56706
If we solved Santana.....

How did the Yankees solve Santana? Didn't he only give up like 2 runs in 13 innings or something like that?

BTW...I predict the Sox will win tonight. I'm making my "good luck" dinner...jambalaya. Everytime we had it last playoffs they won. :)

Ill eat it every night if I have to.

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 10:46 AM
Holy shit. It's tonight!? I don't have the energy for this.

http://espn.starwave.com/i/mlb/clubhouse/bos.gif

welb25
10-12-04, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by namrufmot
How did the Yankees solve Santana? Didn't he only give up like 2 runs in 13 innings or something like that?

BTW...I predict the Sox will win tonight. I'm making my "good luck" dinner...jambalaya. Everytime we had it last playoffs they won. :)

Ill eat it every night if I have to.


Very true. The only thing the Yankees did in game 4 was make him work a little and got his pitch count up to the point he told Gardenhire to get somebody up. The Yanks actually swung the bats much better against him in game 1 and had nothing to show for it.

Deftones
10-12-04, 11:00 AM
can you guys imagine Mad Dawg's impending doom if both the Sox and Astros moved on to the big dance? :lol:

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 11:01 AM
Shut up, shut up, shut up. :mad:

Deftones
10-12-04, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Shut up, shut up, shut up. :mad:

rotfl

Tommy_Harn
10-12-04, 11:10 AM
The Yankees should be ashamed of themselves if they don't win this series, and the W.S. for that matter. A team that makes it to the 6th game of the World Series in 2003, and adds Sheffield and A-Rod? Are you kidding me? Anything less than a W.S. ring would be pathetic.

Of course, I, and every other baseball fan in America not wearing pinstripes will be rooting for their demise. I just don't see it happening. Yankees, regrettably in five games.

zuffy
10-12-04, 11:18 AM
The Yankees may have a better offensive team this year, but their pitching suck compared to last year. If they can't beat Schilling, they're in trouble. I don't see Pedro doing too well in this cold weather. Arroyo is gonna be a problem too if he stay pitching hot. I can't even name a Yankee starter that is pitching hot.

AndyCapps
10-12-04, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Phil L.
IMO, this Yankee/Sawx series has more appeal, and will likely be more exciting then the World Series.
Regardless of which teams end up being in the WS.


Fuck no(IMO). On one hand you've got the Astros, who just won a postseason series for the first time in their 43 year history. This team went from being left for dead to snatching the NL Wild Card at the last second.

On the other, you've got the Cardinals, who haven't been there since '87 and haven't won since '82. They're 3-2 in WS against the Yankees, but haven't met them since 1964. They're 2-0 against the Red Sox, and haven't met them in the WS since 1967.

One of these teams, which most didn't expect to even make the playoffs, will be in the World Series. We saw Yankees-Red Sox last year. It's going to be tough for this ALCS to top last year's finish. But we've never seen the Astros in the World Series. And we haven't seen a Cardinals-Yankees/Red Sox World Series for nearly 40 years. Either way, the World Series will be more exciting to me.

Deftones
10-12-04, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Tommy_Harn
The Yankees should be ashamed of themselves if they don't win this series, and the W.S. for that matter. A team that makes it to the 6th game of the World Series in 2003, and adds Sheffield and A-Rod? Are you kidding me? Anything less than a W.S. ring would be pathetic.

Of course, I, and every other baseball fan in America not wearing pinstripes will be rooting for their demise. I just don't see it happening. Yankees, regrettably in five games.

Have you not noticed how great pitching always prevails in the post season (for the most part0? What's the one thing that the Yankees are missing?

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by raven56706
they will....... come on.... the red sox have a great team (pitching and all) but the Yankees always find a way...... 63 comefrom behind victories.......

If we solved Santana..... we can solve Schilling and we certainly solved Martinez

How did you guys solve Santana? I dont' remember you guys putting up many runs on the guy.

Even if you can hit those guys, where are your pitchers that can stop the Red Sox bats coming from?

I love the pitching matchups for the Sox, and the Yankees hardly looked unbeatable winning 2 bad wins out of 3 against the Twins, which have 0 run production.

I say Red Sox in 6. Go SOX!!!!

I would guess you guys beating Schilling tonight is your best chance of winning games, you have your ace going, the rest of your guys dont' matchup, even against Wakefield.


Sorry I just read all the posts, and see several others jumped on the solved Santana joke..

I think this matchup is going ot be exciting, but a Red Sox Vs Clemens led Astros team would be pretty d@m sweet too...

I think Pedro will come out and dominate in game 2, and wakefield and Arroya (sp?) will clean up games 3-4. Tonight is must win for the yankees imho. Series Goes 6, if .... if it goes 7, Yankees will win.

welb25
10-12-04, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Deftones, Esq
Have you not noticed how great pitching always prevails in the post season (for the most part0? What's the one thing that the Yankees are missing?

Couldn't agree more, Deftones, Esq. Despite the addition of A-Rod and Sheffield last year's Yankee team was much better equipped for postseason play because of pitching. It's been proven time and time again that good pitching will shut down even the best of offensive clubs.

AndyCapps
10-12-04, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Tommy_Harn
The Yankees should be ashamed of themselves if they don't win this series, and the W.S. for that matter. A team that makes it to the 6th game of the World Series in 2003, and adds Sheffield and A-Rod? Are you kidding me? Anything less than a W.S. ring would be pathetic.


George? I don't know if adding A-Rod and Sheffield can replace the loss of Clemens and Pettite. Plus, Curt Schilling can be one dangerous muthafucka.

welb25
10-12-04, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by SpaceBoy
How did you guys solve Santana? I dont' remember you guys putting up many runs on the guy.

Even if you can hit those guys, where are your pitchers that can stop the Red Sox bats coming from?

I love the pitching matchups for the Sox, and the Yankees hardly looked unbeatable winning 2 bad wins out of 3 against the Twins, which have 0 run production.

I say Red Sox in 6. Go SOX!!!!

I would guess you guys beating Schilling tonight is your best chance of winning games, you have your ace going, the rest of your guys dont' matchup, even against Wakefield.


Sorry I just read all the posts, and see several others jumped on the solved Santana joke..

I think this matchup is going ot be exciting, but a Red Sox Vs Clemens led Astros team would be pretty d@m sweet too...

I think Pedro will come out and dominate in game 2, and wakefield and Arroya (sp?) will clean up games 3-4. Tonight is must win for the yankees imho. Series Goes 6, if .... if it goes 7, Yankees will win.

I totally disagree. I think the Sox have to win Schilling's starts.

Deftones
10-12-04, 11:33 AM
I think with the way Pedro has pitched against the Yanks as of late, that statement is probably fairly accurate.

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by welb25
I totally disagree. I think the Sox have to win Schilling's starts.

I hear ya, as long as we agree on a red sox series win who cares :)

I do think the sox gotta win Schilling's starts to sweep (I don't begin to think that's possible) ;)

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by AndyCapps
Either way, the World Series will be more exciting to me.

:up: Strong agreement! These are going to be three great series. Now if I can just get me some tickets in either Houston or St. Louis.

El Scorcho
10-12-04, 11:34 AM
My date agreed to watch the Sox/Yanks game with me at a bar tonight. She may be faking interest and just going along with what I want but who gives a shit, I get to watch the game!

B.A.
10-12-04, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Now if I can just get me some tickets in either Houston or St. Louis. Good luck getting them here. There are only about 5000 available for each WS game. But you have the opportunity to get them at the box office or ON-LINE.

B.A.
10-12-04, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by AndyCapps
Fuck no(IMO). On one hand you've got the Astros, who just won a postseason series for the first time in their 43 year history. This team went from being left for dead to snatching the NL Wild Card at the last second.

On the other, you've got the Cardinals, who haven't been there since '87 and haven't won since '82. They're 3-2 in WS against the Yankees, but haven't met them since 1964. They're 2-0 against the Red Sox, and haven't met them in the WS since 1967.

One of these teams, which most didn't expect to even make the playoffs, will be in the World Series. We saw Yankees-Red Sox last year. It's going to be tough for this ALCS to top last year's finish. But we've never seen the Astros in the World Series. And we haven't seen a Cardinals-Yankees/Red Sox World Series for nearly 40 years. Either way, the World Series will be more exciting to me. Eloquently written, AC. [/sheds tear]

Mordred
10-12-04, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Deftones, Esq
Have you not noticed how great pitching always prevails in the post season (for the most part0? What's the one thing that the Yankees are missing? Geez def, you're such a dumbass. You do remember that the Yankees addressed their weak pitching when they picked up Loaiza this season don't you?

;)

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by B.A.
Good luck getting them here. There are only about 5000 available for each WS game.

I hate that shit. But apparently the boss is absolutely locked in on getting seats, so he's willing to pay. I'd just like to see the NLCS myself.

B.A.
10-12-04, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by El Scorcho
My date agreed to watch the Sox/Yanks game with me at a bar tonight. She may be faking interest and just going along with what I want but who gives a shit, I get to watch the game! You may have found a keeper!

;)

B.A.
10-12-04, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
I hate that shit. But apparently the boss is absolutely locked in on getting seats, so he's willing to pay. I'd just like to see the NLCS myself. Hell, then it can't hurt to try on-line. You can register (http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/stl/ticketing/world_series_tickets.jsp) for the chance to purchase WS tickets.

Red Dog
10-12-04, 11:53 AM
Series odds:
Red Sox -145
Yankees +135

Game 1 odds:
RedSox(Boston) Schilling -143 | -1.5 (+105) | Over 8.5 (-105)
Yankees(NewYork) Mussina +133 | +1.5 (-125) | Under 8.5 (-115)


Hard to believe that the Yanks are dogs.

AndyCapps
10-12-04, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
I hate that shit. But apparently the boss is absolutely locked in on getting seats, so he's willing to pay. I'd just like to see the NLCS myself.

I guess missing the playoffs last season made Cardinals fans hungry for tickets this year. I got DS and NLCS tickets in 2002 with no problem. A friend of mine tried for 5.5 hours to get them this year, with no luck. I casually put World Series tickets in my cart during the 2002 NLCS, just to see what was available. Coming off of a 105 win season after missing out the year before changes everything.

welb25
10-12-04, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Red Dog
Series odds:
Red Sox -145
Yankees +135

Game 1 odds:
RedSox(Boston) Schilling -143 | -1.5 (+105) | Over 8.5 (-105)
Yankees(NewYork) Mussina +133 | +1.5 (-125) | Under 8.5 (-115)


Hard to believe that the Yanks are dogs.

I like the fact that the Yanks are dogs.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 12:07 PM
Red Sox in 5. They flat out have a better team. I cant wait!

Red Dog
10-12-04, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by welb25
I like the fact that the Yanks are dogs.


If I was a Yanks fan, I would too. That line is very tempting. I want the Sox to win because it will make the WS worth watching, but I might throw a little on the Yanks just in case.

Flashback
10-12-04, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by welb25
I like the fact that the Yanks are dogs.

Most of us do...but we have better descriptions than dogs.

The other series is pretty interesting. Will the Astros dominate like the last couple of series or will the Cards take it w/o a problem and show that they did lie down earlier ;)

welb25
10-12-04, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by chrisih8u
Red Sox in 5. They flat out have a better team. I cant wait!

I don't know why the A.L East champion Yankees who won 101 games are even bothering to show up. Oh well, maybe they will be lucky enough to grind out one game. ;)

zuffy
10-12-04, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Flashback
Most of us do...but we have better descriptions than dogs.

jealousy

Flashback
10-12-04, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
jealousy

Frustration :)

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by welb25
I don't know why the A.L East champion Yankees who won 101 games are even bothering to show up. Oh well, maybe they will be lucky enough to grind out one game. ;)

Fuck that. The Red Sox are still the better team. They'll win the first 3 and take the series in 5.

twikoff
10-12-04, 12:13 PM
ummmm


START THE DAMN GAME ALREADY!!!

welb25
10-12-04, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by chrisih8u
Fuck that. The Red Sox are still the better team. They'll win the first 3 and take the series in 5.

You might be right. I'm just glad the Sox will have to go through the Yankees if they want to finally win the World Series and not the Twins. It's the way it should be.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by welb25
You might be right. I'm just glad the Sox will have to go through the Yankees if they finally want to win the World Series and not the Twins. It's the way it should be.

:up: Hell yeah. This was the series we wanted. Its time to right a wrong. Bob Ryan said it best today. "You may call it game 1. Some of us prefer to think of it as game 8."

Tommy_Harn
10-12-04, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Deftones, Esq
Have you not noticed how great pitching always prevails in the post season (for the most part0? What's the one thing that the Yankees are missing?

Sure, they lost Pettite and Clemens. But forgive me for not extending my sympathy when they acquire Vazquez and Brown to fill those holes. If you think about it, save Schilling, those were the two best options in the league to replace those guys.

Let's break this down, shall we?:
A=1 World Series team
B=2 starting pitchers
C=2/3 of the best pitching options available
D=2 possible Future H.O.F.'ers

A-B+C+D=X


How can X not equal a World Series ring? Anything short of that will be a miserable failure, no matter how welll Boston, St. Louis or Houston might play against them.

twikoff
10-12-04, 12:42 PM
great pitching always beats great hitting in the end

BUT...

when was the last time we had this kind of collection of great hitting?

huh?
10-12-04, 12:43 PM
Sox in 6. They win it in the Bronx. I want to see Manny/Pedro and the rest of the Sox celebrating on enemy turf.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
great pitching always beats great hitting in the end

BUT...

when was the last time we had this kind of collection of great hitting?


Are you talking about the great hitting Yankees? I think the Red Sox have better offensive numbers. Last I checked anyway. And last years Red Sox team was one of the best hitting of all time.

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
great pitching always beats great hitting in the end

BUT...

when was the last time we had this kind of collection of great hitting?

I dont' get where this great hitting tag comes from, did somebody forget about the Red Sox hitting? Yes, they have great hitting, but the red sox beat the yankees in every batting category this season, other then wins, and was right behind it.

They scores more runs, had more home runs, better on base percentage, and even more important run differential. The Yankees are a grea tteam, but the red sox offense is jus as good stats wise, maybe not name wise. Plus the Red Sox won 3 more head to head this year.

twikoff
10-12-04, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by chrisih8u
Are you talking about the great hitting Yankees?

actually.. Im talking more about the great hitting represented by all 4 teams in the playoffs.. (not so much the astros, and more specifically the cardinals)

even though great pitching beats great hitting
i could still easily seen boston/NY beating the other in 9-8 games.. as opposed to 2-1 games.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by SpaceBoy
I dont' get where this great hitting tag comes from, did somebody forget about the Red Sox hitting? Yes, they have great hitting, but the red sox beat the yankees in every batting category this season, other then wins, and was right behind it.

They scores more runs, had more home runs, better on base percentage, and even more important run differential. The Yankees are a grea tteam, but the red sox offense is jus as good stats wise, maybe not name wise. Plus the Red Sox won 3 more head to head this year.

Not exactly. Just looked it up. Yanks have more HRs. Tied for the most in the ML with the White Sox. Sox are better in every other category. Fuck the Yankees lineup.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
actually.. Im talking more about the great hitting represented by all 4 teams in the playoffs.. (not so much the astros, and more specifically the cardinals)

even though great hitting beats great pitching
i could still easily seen boston/NY beating the other in 9-8 games.. as opposed to 2-1 games.

Ok then. Disregard. :D

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
actually.. Im talking more about the great hitting represented by all 4 teams in the playoffs.. (not so much the astros, and more specifically the cardinals)

even though great pitching beats great hitting
i could still easily seen boston/NY beating the other in 9-8 games.. as opposed to 2-1 games.

Well, I'd agree, except the Astros can certainly be placed into that category with no qualifications. And say that their top 5 is potentially as dangerous as just about any out there.

twikoff
10-12-04, 12:54 PM
didnt the yankee's set their franchise record in homeruns this season?

thats saying alot, considering their history

although, i still would rather have the cardinals offense over any of the rest the teams in the teams in the playoffs.. Boston probably has a little better overall package.. but the yanks have as good of hitting (especially playoff experience hitting) and a dominant closer..

houston.. well.. they just won their first seasons in team history.. so i guess they already have their success..

twikoff
10-12-04, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Well, I'd agree, except the Astros can certainly be placed into that category with no qualifications. And say that their top 5 is potentially as dangerous as just about any out there.

i would say they *potentionally* are.. but i wouldnt say they *consistently* are.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 12:57 PM
Who gives a crap about the Yankees HR record? They tied with the White Sox and look where they ended up.

welb25
10-12-04, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by chrisih8u
Who gives a crap about the Yankees HR record? They tied with the White Sox and look where they ended up.

They ended up 3 games ahead of the Red Sox. Oh, sorry, you meant the White Sox, didn't you. ;)

drmoze
10-12-04, 01:00 PM
One comment on tonight's game:

Schilling IS the Yankees' DADDY!

$^)

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by drmoze
One comment on tonight's game:

Schilling IS the Yankees' DADDY!

$^)


That would make Schilling Pedro's grandfather. :eek:

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
i would say they *potentionally* are.. but i wouldnt say they *consistently* are.

Would you say that they were consistently solid offensively over, say, 4 of their last 5 games? This team did go 36-10 down the stretch with a sub-par bullpen. They rode thier horses on the mound, and they hit. A lot. I'm making no predictions here, but I am saying that they certainly can be mentioned in the same breath as the others.

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 01:09 PM
I just looked up all the numbers, to make sure I wasn't talking out my @ss with the stats...

Red Sox VS Yankees | Winner
hr 222 VS 242s | Yankees
r 949 VS 897 | Red Sox
rbi 912 VS 863 | Red Sox
bb 659 VS 670 | Tie Pretty much
ba .282 VS .268 | Red Sox
obp .360 VS .353 | Tie Pretty much
slug .472 VS .458 | Red Sox
h 1613 VS 1483 | Red Sox
2b 373 VS 281 | Red Sox
3b 25 VS 20 | Red Sox

So out of 10 major batting stats, the Red Sox win 7 of them, 2 ties, and 1 to the Yankees, and the Red Sox won many of those by a sizable difference such as runs, rbis, hits, doubles etc.

I like the Red Sox's offense just fine ;) Don't even compare the pitching numbers.

Red Sox are the better team, they will win, in 6 if not 5 games.

welb25
10-12-04, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by SpaceBoy
I just looked up all the numbers, to make sure I wasn't talking out my @ss with the stats...

Red Sox VS Yankees | Winner
hr 222 VS 242s | Yankees
r 949 VS 897 | Red Sox
rbi 912 VS 863 | Red Sox
bb 659 VS 670 | Tie Pretty much
ba .282 VS .268 | Red Sox
obp .360 VS .353 | Tie Pretty much
slug .472 VS .458 | Red Sox
h 1613 VS 1483 | Red Sox
2b 373 VS 281 | Red Sox
3b 25 VS 20 | Red Sox

So out of 10 major batting stats, the Red Sox win 7 of them, 2 ties, and 1 to the Yankees, and the Red Sox won many of those by a sizable difference such as runs, rbis, hits, doubles etc.

I like the Red Sox's offense just fine ;) Don't even compare the pitching numbers.

Red Sox are the better team, they will win, in 6 if not 5 games.

Aren't wins the object of the game?

zuffy
10-12-04, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by welb25
Isn't wins the object of the game?
ditto

zuffy
10-12-04, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by SpaceBoy
Red Sox won many of those by a sizable difference such as runs, rbis, hits, doubles etc.

It doesn't mean shit in the win column if you won by more than 10 runs, it's still 1 win. It doesn't mean shit too when you score 10 runs but lost by 1 run because your bullpen fucking blew it.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 01:15 PM
Wins dont mean shit now.

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
ditto

Fine if those stats mean nothing, then why not look at the most accurate stat, head to head wins? You seem to want to look only at wins, look at those.

Who won the series head to head? That to me seems the fairest measure, unless they played the exact same teams, the exact same number of times.. which isn't the case obviously..

By your logic then the Red Sox are the better team, since they beat the yankees 3 more time this season head to head.

twikoff
10-12-04, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by chrisih8u
Wins dont mean shit now.

:hscratch:

rotfl

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 01:17 PM
Case closed, start the games :)

Oh, and by the way all those stats, weren't really arguing who's a better team, just a wakeup call to everybody saying that the yankees are the most powerful offense lineup. The numbers just aren't there to make the claim, the Red Sox have better offensive numbers.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
:hscratch:

rotfl

What I meant is that the Yankees having 3 more regular season wins doesnt mean shit to prove that they are better. The Red Sox are better than the Yankees in almost every statistical category.


And I havent slept in almost 22 hours so shut up! :mad: :lol:

welb25
10-12-04, 01:20 PM
If you are making the argument the Sox are better than the Yanks I would base it on starting pitching. Chrisih8u said it himself, last year's Sox were a better hitting team(one of the best in recent memory) than this year's Sox yet they still lost the division and the ALCS to the Yanks. It's all about starting pitching, namely Schilling and the fact the Yanks don't have Pettite, Clemens, and David Wells.

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by welb25
If you are making the argument the Sox are better than the Yanks I would base it on starting pitching. Chrisih8u said it himself, last year's Sox were a better hitting team(one of the best in recent memory) than this year's Sox yet they still lost the division and the ALCS to the Yanks. It's all about starting pitching, namely Schilling and the fact the Yanks don't have Pettite, Clemens, and David Wells.

Agreed. I was simply stating the yankees aren't the best offensive team, there were several posts about how no lineup has been put together like that before offensively etc.

Pitching wins games, agreed.

zuffy
10-12-04, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by SpaceBoy
Fine if those stats mean nothing, then why not look at the most accurate stat, head to head wins? You seem to want to look only at wins, look at those.

Who won the series head to head? That to me seems the fairest measure, unless they played the exact same teams, the exact same number of times.. which isn't the case obviously..

By your logic then the Red Sox are the better team, since they beat the yankees 3 more time this season head to head.
The Red Sox are a better team. I never say they aren't.

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
It doesn't mean shit too when you score 10 runs but lost by 1 run because your bullpen fucking blew it.

:)

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/2004/07/24/TlOA2rc3.jpg

El Scorcho
10-12-04, 01:23 PM
I'm nervous.

huh?
10-12-04, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by welb25
Aren't wins the object of the game?

You're right, wins are the object.

The Sox beat the Yankees 11 times this year, the Yankees beat the Red Sox 8.

There you go.

FantasticVSDoom
10-12-04, 01:25 PM
All I know is that when this Sox team decides it wants to win, they are pretty unbeatable...I know alot of the press and fans here just assume its already a win because of a curse and what not. I wouldnt be so sure about that. Its obvious that the Yankees have had the Sox number in the past, but Ill take this Sox team anyday against any other team in baseball, including the Cardinals. (Maybe with a better manager :D )

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by El Scorcho
I'm nervous.

Yep. I don't like numbers comparisons, predictions, etc. I just want this series over with. :lol:

welb25
10-12-04, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by SpaceBoy
Fine if those stats mean nothing, then why not look at the most accurate stat, head to head wins? You seem to want to look only at wins, look at those.

Who won the series head to head? That to me seems the fairest measure, unless they played the exact same teams, the exact same number of times.. which isn't the case obviously..

By your logic then the Red Sox are the better team, since they beat the yankees 3 more time this season head to head.

And the Orioles are better than the Sox and the Tigers are better than the Yankees.

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
The Red Sox are a better team. I never say they aren't.

Ha, nevermind then, I'm confusing myself I guess.

I must admit, although I think the Red Sox are a better hitting, better pitching team, the Yankees have their number... Then again all things have to come to an end, hopefully. ;)

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by welb25
And the Orioles are better than the Sox and the Tigers are better than the Yankees.

Sure thing then. However, I thought we were comparing the two teams playing today in the alcs, the two teams that actually made the playoffs, if they were playing one of those teams, I guess we would have to look at those numbers too. ;)

FantasticVSDoom
10-12-04, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by El Scorcho
I'm nervous.
I hear you there...But it will be over in a week, and Ill be real happy or real fucking mad. I just hope I dont have to be mad again.

zuffy
10-12-04, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
:)

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/2004/07/24/TlOA2rc3.jpg

What game was this in reference to? Rivera blewing the save opp.? Your boy Foulke blew one against the Yanks too.

FantasticVSDoom
10-12-04, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by welb25
And the Orioles are better than the Sox and the Tigers are better than the Yankees.
At times, this was unfortunatly the case many times this season...

welb25
10-12-04, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by SpaceBoy
Sure thing then. However, I thought we were comparing the two teams playing today in the alcs, the two teams that actually made the playoffs, if they were playing one of those teams, I guess we would have to look at those numbers too. ;)

We are. I was just trying to say the head to head record isn't the be all, end all. I also wasn't trying to say the Yankees winning 3 more games than the Sox is the be all, end all. I was just trying to say it's hard to say a team is so much better than the other when the team didn't even beat the other to win their division. Oh well, fuck this, let's just see what happens.

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
What game was this in reference to? Rivera blewing the save opp.? Your boy Foulke blew one against the Yanks too.

:lol: I thought that's the game you were talking about. Scoring 10 runs, but losing by 1. I was just reliving the memory.

El Scorcho
10-12-04, 01:37 PM
The Yanks could throw out 5 Esteban Loaiza's and have Heredia pitch in relief every game and I'd still be nervous.

welb25
10-12-04, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by FantasticVSDoom
At times, this was unfortunatly the case many times this season...

I think the Sox and Yanks better hope the Orioles don't get some reliable starting pitching.

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by El Scorcho
The Yanks could throw out 5 Esteban Loaiza's and have Heredia pitch in relief every game and I'd still be nervous.

Well, as I've said before, I admire the resolve of chris and the others. I can never be that optimistic, so I agree with you whole-heartedly.

welb25
10-12-04, 01:51 PM
I have a question for the Sox fans. The fans aside, just talking about the players. Do you think the players on the Sox and Yanks really hate each other? I think maybe Pedro and Posada do. I'm not convinced A-rod and Varitek do, Varitek was just sticking up for his guy. I always see Millar chatting with whatever Yankee is at first and vice versa.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 01:51 PM
C'mon, bitches! We've waited for this for an entire year. A whole year of shit dumped on us and you guys are going into this series like a bunch of fairies!?!?!

We have the offense, pitching, and defense to win this fuckin thing. The Yankees are not unbeatable. We beat them 11 times this year. Just 4 more and we shut them the fuck up for the year. Lets get it on!

FantasticVSDoom
10-12-04, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Well, as I've said before, I admire the resolve of chris and the others. I can never be that optimistic, so I agree with you whole-heartedly.
I think all of us as Sox fans have that nervous sinking feeling in our stomach. We have to put on a good game face to keep from going insane at times :)...But as nervous as I am, I also know this is our best shot.

Flashback
10-12-04, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by El Scorcho
The Yanks could throw out 5 Esteban Loaiza's and have Heredia pitch in relief every game and I'd still be nervous.

That's why we play the games ... who knows what the f**k is going to happen. But it's a good nervous, one that tells me every year why I love this friggin game.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by welb25
I have a question for the Sox fans. The fans aside, just talking about the players. Do you think the players on the Sox and Yanks really hate each other? I think maybe Pedro and Posada do. I'm not convinced A-rod and Varitek do, Varitek was just sticking up for his guy. I always see Millar chatting with whatever Yankee is at first and vice versa.


They absolutely hate each other. I say there will be at least 2 bench clearing incidents.

Flashback
10-12-04, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by chrisih8u
I say there will be at least 2 bench clearing incidents.

And that's just game 1

raven56706
10-12-04, 01:56 PM
Yanks are even with the Red Sox(with better pitching)


Lets see what happens..... let the games begin

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by chrisih8u
C'mon, bitches! We've waited for this for an entire year. A whole year of shit dumped on us and you guys are going into this series like a bunch of fairies!?!?!

We have the offense, pitching, and defense to win this fuckin thing. The Yankees are not unbeatable. We beat them 11 times this year. Just 4 more and we shut them the fuck up for the year. Lets get it on!

Don't think that we're not pumped. I want to win so badly I can taste it, and I know we can. But I'm also a Sox fan. :lol:

zuffy
10-12-04, 01:59 PM
We need a Nelson and Garcia of this year. I think Heredia would be a good candidate. :D

huh?
10-12-04, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by raven56706
Yanks are even with the Red Sox(with better pitching)


Lets see what happens..... let the games begin

Yanks and Sox are not even.

11-8 season series edge to the sox.

welb25
10-12-04, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by chrisih8u
C'mon, bitches! We've waited for this for an entire year. A whole year of shit dumped on us and you guys are going into this series like a bunch of fairies!?!?!

We have the offense, pitching, and defense to win this fuckin thing. The Yankees are not unbeatable. We beat them 11 times this year. Just 4 more and we shut them the fuck up for the year. Lets get it on!

Even if you sweep the Yankees then sweep the WS you won't shut Yankees fans up. I mean, the Sox have to get it done sooner or later, don't they?

zuffy
10-12-04, 02:10 PM
The Red Sox has always been secondary to the Yankees but that've never shut up the Red Sox fans. :D

welb25
10-12-04, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
The Red Sox has always been secondary to the Yankees but that've never shut up the Red Sox fans. :D

And they always will be. ;)

twikoff
10-12-04, 02:18 PM
so...

who do you guys think is going to win this series?


;)

zuffy
10-12-04, 02:18 PM
The Braves ;)

wabio
10-12-04, 02:27 PM
http://img57.exs.cx/img57/8905/curse.jpg

This winner of this series has already been decided. :D

twikoff
10-12-04, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
The Braves ;)

so....
your saying that the yanks have less chance than the braves?

:up: your finally coming around

twikoff
10-12-04, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by wabio

This winner of this series has already been decided. :D

their going to just use the season series results? :hscratch:

zuffy
10-12-04, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
so....
your saying that the yanks have less chance than the braves?

:up: your finally coming around

If the Yanks play the way the Braves did against the Astros, then yes.

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 02:33 PM
Yankees fans. Aren't the lovable?

Turd Ferguson
10-12-04, 02:35 PM
2003 ALCS = Luke vs. Vader I
2004 ALCS = Luke vs. Vader II

Fuck the Babe. Go Sox.

twikoff
10-12-04, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
If the Yanks play the way the Braves did against the Astros, then yes.

or if they play how they did all season against the sox :up:

zuffy
10-12-04, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
or if they play how they did all season against the sox :up:

Or when Pedro and the rest of the Red Sox calling the Yankees Daddy. :D

raven56706
10-12-04, 02:56 PM
beat us in the regular season but now beat us in the postseason...

twikoff
10-12-04, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by raven56706
beat us in the regular season but now beat us in the postseason...

thats a good plan you've got there

fumanstan
10-12-04, 02:59 PM
While the Yankees pitching is suspect, especially in a head to head comparison with the Red Sox, the Yankees are still the Yankees. It didn't hinder them as much as i thought in the regular season, or against the Twinkies. I hope for 6 or 7 games :)

Roto
10-12-04, 03:54 PM
Finally the games are back in HD. Stupid ESPN only broadcast in HD for the first games :mad:

I don't really have a rooting interest for the National League, but I guess the best story would be to see Clemens pitching against the Sox or the Yankees. I wouldn't mind seeing him beat the Yankees and I'd love to see him lose to the Sox :D

raven56706
10-12-04, 03:59 PM
Sorry but this will be really tough for the yankees...... but beating the yankees will make no difference because they will lose to either houston or st louis....

Flashback
10-12-04, 04:01 PM
So now you rank the Yankees 4th out of the 4 remaining?

B.A.
10-12-04, 04:06 PM
Cards rotation for NLCS:

Williams
Morris
Suppan
Marquis

Flashback
10-12-04, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by B.A.
Cards rotation for NLCS:

Williams
Morris
Suppan
Marquis

Well, you lose game 2 already. ;)

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Flashback
Well, you lose game 2 already. ;)

:lol: Then it'll be a best-of-5. Houston is sending Pete Munro and his massive ERA to the mound for game 1.

nevermind
10-12-04, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Roto
Finally the games are back in HD. Stupid ESPN only broadcast in HD for the first games :mad:


Is Fox true HD now, or just 480p?

Roto
10-12-04, 04:51 PM
Fox did 720P for the first time at the MLB All Star Game. They've done all the NFL games in 720P as far as I know. Zap2it.com has tonight's game listed as HDTV and they don't do that when it's only 480P.

nevermind
10-12-04, 04:53 PM
Thanks Roto :thumbsup:

zuffy
10-12-04, 04:54 PM
Stop talking about HD. I don't have a HDTV :(

El Scorcho
10-12-04, 05:04 PM
I'm more nervous than I was a few hours ago.

huh?
10-12-04, 05:05 PM
My boss just handed me a ticket to GAME 2.

Holy shit. It will be a long day (driving down to NY and back), but worth it. Holy crap. It's a box seat too.

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by huh?
My boss just handed me a ticket to GAME 2.

Holy shit. It will be a long day (driving down to NY and back), but worth it. Holy crap. It's a box seat too.

Wow! Congrats!

nevermind
10-12-04, 05:07 PM
Wow!

nevermind
10-12-04, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
Stop talking about HD. I don't have a HDTV :(

stop buying cameras! :p


;)

Roto
10-12-04, 05:11 PM
Sorry Zuffy. Neither do I really, but I have a projector that does 480P.
$150 can get you a card for your computer and you can use your computer monitor as a small HDTV. Easily the cheapest way to get into it. It's great for sports.

nevermind
10-12-04, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Roto
Sorry Zuffy. Neither do I really, but I have a projector that does 480P.
$150 can get you a card for your computer and you can use your computer monitor as a small HDTV. Easily the cheapest way to get into it. It's great for sports.


...and didn't you just get a kick ass monitor, Zuffy?

Aphex Twin
10-12-04, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
:lol: Then it'll be a best-of-5. Houston is sending Pete Munro and his massive ERA to the mound for game 1.

Hey....what's going on with Wade Miller? When will Petitte be back?

Roto
10-12-04, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by huh?
My boss just handed me a ticket to GAME 2.

Holy shit. It will be a long day (driving down to NY and back), but worth it. Holy crap. It's a box seat too.
:jawdrop: screw HDTV! :mad:

zuffy
10-12-04, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by nevermind
stop buying cameras! :p


;)

:mad:

Roto,

I was planning to order the ATI All-in-Wonder video card for my Apple Cinema 23" LCD but decided not to since I prefer to watch my DISH channels in my TV.

zuffy
10-12-04, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by nevermind
...and didn't you just get a kick ass monitor, Zuffy?
Yes I did :D

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 05:30 PM
Wow huh, that will be a sweet game, with pedro coming back to pitch in NY... I can hear the who's your daddy chants now, as well as the sound of the red sox rounding the bases against Lieber. :)

I like pedro to come out and show us what he's got, esp. with over 6 days of rest again. (I'll take even a medicore pedro though)

Let's get it on!

Phil L.
10-12-04, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
Stop talking about HD. I don't have a HDTV :(

My set comes in next monday. A Sony 34" widescreen HDTV tube set.
It's gonna be a long week.

Phil L.
10-12-04, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by huh?
My boss just handed me a ticket to GAME 2.

Holy shit. It will be a long day (driving down to NY and back), but worth it. Holy crap. It's a box seat too.

Wow! That's fantastic! Good for you.

But isn't that a little backwards? You are in MA, couldn't he have given you a ticket to game 3?







-wink-
:D

das Monkey
10-12-04, 05:52 PM
This is why Tim McCarver is the greats sportscaster in the history of the world. Direct quote from <i>PTI</i>:

"I think the reason for that is Curt Schilling. I mean he's the guy they didn't have before they had him this year."

Brilliant analysis, Tim.

das

huh?
10-12-04, 05:54 PM
Ok, this is my choice.

I can go to game 2 in yankee stadium, long day with drive and see the PEdro "They are my Daddies" game.

OR

Game 3 Friday night. At fenway, close to home.

CAn't go to both....


I can't even believe this is happening to me right now.

huh?
10-12-04, 05:57 PM
Also, I can't believe this thread is 145 responses deep and the game is 2 hours from starting...

Well, ok... yeah I can.

das Monkey
10-12-04, 06:00 PM
Wow. That's a tough call. I'd probably rather go see Pedro at Yankee stadium. If there are going to be fireworks in this series, that might be your best bet. You probably see a lot of games at Fenway. Pedro in Yankee stadium in the postseason? I like the sound of that.

das

SpaceBoy
10-12-04, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by das Monkey
Wow. That's a tough call. I'd probably rather go see Pedro at Yankee stadium. If there are going to be fireworks in this series, that might be your best bet. You probably see a lot of games at Fenway. Pedro in Yankee stadium in the postseason? I like the sound of that.

das

Agreed. Then go to game 3 when he still has the other ticket ;)

B.A.
10-12-04, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Flashback
Well, you lose game 2 already. ;) -ohbfrank-

He pitched really good in LA. The Cards were just morons at the plate that night and Lima was pitching a pretty damn good game.

B.A.
10-12-04, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by huh?
Ok, this is my choice.

I can go to game 2 in yankee stadium, long day with drive and see the PEdro "They are my Daddies" game.

OR

Game 3 Friday night. At fenway, close to home.

CAn't go to both....


I can't even believe this is happening to me right now. Oh, what a quandry you are in. :rolleyes:






;)

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 06:15 PM
Just remember, huh?. If you choose Game 2, DO NOT take Scorch and Def!

das Monkey
10-12-04, 06:25 PM
• Mad Dawg •

Just remember, huh?. If you choose Game 2, DO NOT take Scorch and Def!
:hscratch: Judging from those pictures from earlier, I thought Yankee Stadium supported alternate lifestyles. ;)

das

Roto
10-12-04, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
:mad:

Roto,

I was planning to order the ATI All-in-Wonder video card for my Apple Cinema 23" LCD but decided not to since I prefer to watch my DISH channels in my TV.
So? What's another couple hundred bucks after what you spent on that monitor? You wouldn't hook it up to your Dish anyway. The HD cards are only for local over the air stations, only a couple work with cable, none with satellite.

I gotta put my computer back together, but I'll see if I can get it set up to take some screenshots. If not tonight's game, I'll do it for game 2.

El Scorcho
10-12-04, 06:45 PM
Jesus fuck thats a nobrainer

You see Game 3 at Fenway. Fenway's the best place in the world to watch a baseball game (if you're a sox fan).

das Monkey
10-12-04, 06:49 PM
Yeah, but imagine the joy of wearing a Sox jersey when they beat NY in Yankee Stadium.

das

Phil L.
10-12-04, 06:49 PM
How long into the start of tonight's game will it take an announcer to make a comment about Johnny Damon's hair and the overall scruffy look to many of the RS players?

Cause I don't think anyone has mentioned that so far this season yet. :rolleyes:

El Scorcho
10-12-04, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by das Monkey
Yeah, but imagine the joy of wearing a Sox jersey when they beat NY in Yankee Stadium.

das

I can only imagine. :mad:

huh?
10-12-04, 06:53 PM
I went with game 2.

I the storyline of Peedie back in NY to face his daddies was just too great to turn away.

El Scorcho
10-12-04, 06:57 PM
God but that place is such a shithole. I wish to never go back to Yankee Stadium again. THe whole area around that stadium sucks. At least with Fenway you have a huge atmosphere of local bars and restaurants to celebrate a victory with.

zuffy
10-12-04, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by huh?
Ok, this is my choice.

I can go to game 2 in yankee stadium, long day with drive and see the PEdro "They are my Daddies" game.

OR

Game 3 Friday night. At fenway, close to home.

CAn't go to both....


I can't even believe this is happening to me right now.

Go to game 2 so you can witness yourself the beating Pedro will be receiving. :D

twikoff
10-12-04, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by El Scorcho
God but that place is such a shithole. I wish to never go back to Yankee Stadium again. THe whole area around that stadium sucks. At least with Fenway you have a huge atmosphere of local bars and restaurants to celebrate a victory with.

or to drown away your sorrows :D

twikoff
10-12-04, 07:05 PM
so.. lets see
the yankees came from behind (no pun intended) to win 61 games this year..

so all that really have to do is survive the sox's starting pitchers and try to get the counts high to have them out by the 6th inning or so.. and then knock them off late?

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 07:14 PM
BOSTON NY YANKEES
AVG HR RBI AVG HR RBI
Johnny Damon CF .467 0 0 Derek Jeter SS .316 1 4
Mark Bellhorn 2B .091 0 0 Alex Rodriguez 3B .421 1 3
Manny Ramirez LF .385 1 7 Gary Sheffield RF .222 1 2
David Ortiz DH .545 1 4 Hideki Matsui LF .412 1 3
Kevin Millar 1B .300 1 4 Bernie Williams CF .278 1 3
Trot Nixon RF .250 0 2 Jorge Posada C .222 0 0
Jason Varitek C .167 1 2 John Olerud 1B .214 0 0
Orlando Cabrera SS .154 0 3 Miguel Cairo 2B .214 0 1
Bill Mueller 3B .333 0 0 Kenny Lofton DH .250 0 1

Curt Schilling RHP (1-0, 2.70) Mike Mussina RHP (0-1, 2.57)

B.A.
10-12-04, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by El Scorcho
God but that place is such a shithole. I wish to never go back to Yankee Stadium again. THe whole area around that stadium sucks. At least with Fenway you have a huge atmosphere of local bars and restaurants to celebrate a victory with. So you will be happy that they plan on tearing it down soon?

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 07:20 PM
I've only seen one roster tweak so far, and that's from Boston. Kevin Youkilis is out, Ramio Mendoza is in. Scott Williamson has elected to have elbow surgery, so any hopes of seeing him return in the postseason are gone.

zuffy
10-12-04, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Roto
So? What's another couple hundred bucks after what you spent on that monitor? You wouldn't hook it up to your Dish anyway. The HD cards are only for local over the air stations, only a couple work with cable, none with satellite.

I gotta put my computer back together, but I'll see if I can get it set up to take some screenshots. If not tonight's game, I'll do it for game 2.

Actually, I opted for the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro instead. I don't need all that All-in-Wonder stuff.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 07:52 PM
7 pages before the game even begins :up:

twikoff
10-12-04, 07:53 PM
and not 1 single sig bet :down:

B.A.
10-12-04, 08:02 PM
The Yankees are the Empire!!! Let the Rebellion begin!!!!

wabio
10-12-04, 08:02 PM
Star Wars purists must be rolling in their graves right now. -ohbfrank-

hotaru_san
10-12-04, 08:03 PM
anyone who likes baseball or star wars is probably pretty disturbed
that was an impressively lame intro

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by chrisih8u
7 pages before the game even begins :up: It's on.

A friendly hello to you, tom furman and mad dawg. And all the bandwagoners can go to hell.

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
and not 1 single sig bet :down: I'll sig bet chris, tom or mad dawg, offer stands until game 1 ends.

Roto
10-12-04, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by wabio
Star Wars purists must be rolling in their graves right now. -ohbfrank-
I thought it was pretty funny, but then I'm no Star Wars purist. Was that Chewbacca that they put Damons head on? :lol:

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by B.A.
The Yankees are the Empire!!! Let the Rebellion begin!!!! Yup, you're not a hater, like you claimed the other day -rolleyes-

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Roto
I thought it was pretty funny, but then I'm no Star Wars purist. Was that Chewbacca that they put Damons head on? :lol: It was lame, but amusing.

Deftones
10-12-04, 08:12 PM
This sucks. I committed to a concert well over a month ago on one of my only nights off, and the freaking series of the year has to start tonight. :(

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Deftones, Esq
This sucks. I committed to a concert well over a month ago on one of my only nights off, and the freaking series of the year has to start tonight. :( I'll top that. I will be out of the country during the World Series. Yes, I'm an idiot for that.

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Bushdog
I'll sig bet chris, tom or mad dawg, offer stands until game 1 ends.

Im in. I've never had a sig before. Even if the Sox win, I'll probably just add to yours. I laugh my ass off every time I read it. :lol:

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:18 PM
:up:

Good luck, but not too much! :D

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 08:18 PM
Hey, it's not fair to sig bet me. Everyone knows I'm a superstitious, defeatist, pessimist.

B.A.
10-12-04, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Bushdog
Yup, you're not a hater, like you claimed the other day -rolleyes- I'm not - I was just playing off of Fox's intro.

B.A.
10-12-04, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Bushdog
I'll top that. I will be out of the country during the World Series. Yes, I'm an idiot for that. How un-American of you.


;)

Where are you going? You may be able to catch it in certain corners of the world.

Copenhagen
10-12-04, 08:20 PM
Nice start Moose :up:

nevermind
10-12-04, 08:24 PM
anybody watching in hd or at least dd5.1?

I can barely hear the announcers. Of course that may not be a bad thing :D

twikoff
10-12-04, 08:24 PM
mussina is just mowing them down
this game is over!

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:24 PM
24 outs to go! Go mOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOse

zuffy
10-12-04, 08:27 PM
Moose is looking good so far.

zuffy
10-12-04, 08:27 PM
Jeter :drool: :p

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:31 PM
Jeet got a nice piece of the ball.

A-Rod did not

2 away

Copenhagen
10-12-04, 08:33 PM
Sheff got a whole lot of that slider.

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:37 PM
Hideki, you are magnificent

zuffy
10-12-04, 08:37 PM
WOOOOHOOOOOOOO... 2-0

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:37 PM
A timely hit from Bernie! 2-0

Call me crazy, but while Bernie's numbers are tailing off, but he's finally starting to get hits when it matters.

Aphex Twin
10-12-04, 08:38 PM
Schilling already gives up 2 runs in the 1st inning!

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Aphex Twin
Schilling already gives up 2 runs in the 1st inning! Wrong mindset. Yankees have to assume this is all they'll get.

twikoff
10-12-04, 08:40 PM
2 runs aint gonna win it
but this game is over
goodnight folks
drive home safely

Boondock Saint
10-12-04, 08:40 PM
Is Schilling hurt?

Roto
10-12-04, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Bushdog
Hideki, you are magnificent
That pitch looked way out of the strikezone too.

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Roto
That pitch looked way out of the strikezone too. He let the bat meet the ball and had one of those "hit 'em where they ain't" at bats. A little bit of luck, a little bit of skill.

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 08:44 PM
Certainly a shitty start. Mussina looks damn sharp.

Aphex Twin
10-12-04, 08:46 PM
Derek Jeter has intangables

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 08:46 PM
I wish they'd get it out of the way and just draw a heart around Jeter.

zuffy
10-12-04, 08:47 PM
6 up 6 down. Moose is looking very good.

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:47 PM
21 outs to go

Aphex Twin
10-12-04, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Bushdog
Wrong mindset. Yankees have to assume this is all they'll get.

Mindset? But I'm not playing in the game tonight?

chrisih8u
10-12-04, 08:47 PM
Crappy start. I wonder how much Schillings ankle hurts.

Aphex Twin
10-12-04, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
I wish they'd get it out of the way and just draw a heart around Jeter.

http://forums.lakersground.net/images/smiles/bananalove.gifhttp://espycollection.shazamm.net/images/photo_derek_jeter.jpghttp://forums.lakersground.net/images/smiles/bananalove.gif

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 08:51 PM
Hey folks, the key hit of that inning was Matsui's. No fucking shit, McCarver. It was a two out RBI.

zuffy
10-12-04, 08:51 PM
:drool: :drool: :drool:

MJKTool
10-12-04, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Hey folks, the key hit of that inning was Matsui's. No fucking shit, McCarver. It was a two out RBI.

Lots of compassion I see here.

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Hey folks, the key hit of that inning was Matsui's. No fucking shit, McCarver. It was a two out RBI. Yeah, that's genius. Glad he cracked that one. McCarver = Columbo

Aphex Twin
10-12-04, 08:54 PM
McCarver has been studying Jim Tracy interviews.

Bushdog
10-12-04, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Aphex Twin
Mindset? But I'm not playing in the game tonight? Wrong! Every fan and opponent's psychic waves effects the game! :mad: :mad: Get your game face on, buddy!

B.A.
10-12-04, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Bushdog
McCarver = Columbo :lol:

nevermind
10-12-04, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Mad Dawg
Hey folks, the key hit of that inning was Matsui's. No fucking shit, McCarver. It was a two out RBI.

I guess it's good I can't hear them, huh? :)

zuffy
10-12-04, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by nevermind
I guess it's good I can't hear them, huh? :)

but you're missing all the fun

Bushdog
10-12-04, 09:00 PM
18 outs to go

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 09:01 PM
Great! Mussina is looking perfect and Rivera is ready to go. I haven't been this happy since the time I shot myself in the balls with a crossbow.

Mad Dawg
10-12-04, 09:04 PM
-ohbfrank-

zuffy
10-12-04, 09:04 PM
beautiful. 1st and 2nd, no out.

Rival11
10-12-04, 09:06 PM
I admit that I'm a little nervous about this one but the Yanks have more than what it takes even when they are down and out so I'm still getting my hopes up - gonna be a good one.

GO YANKS!!!!!

Aphex Twin
10-12-04, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Bushdog
Wrong! Every fan and opponent's psychic waves effects the game! :mad: :mad: Get your game face on, buddy!

mmmkay...http://www.tailgating.com/Tour%2003/03Images/kc%20game%20face%20on%20and%20on%20and%20on.jpg

zuffy
10-12-04, 09:08 PM
C'mon Matsui. Bases are loaded, no out

zuffy
10-12-04, 09:08 PM
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!

Rival11
10-12-04, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by zuffy
C'mon Matsui. Bases are loaded, no out

He was listening :up:

Bushdog
10-12-04, 09:09 PM
Hideki, you are magnificent

zuffy
10-12-04, 09:09 PM
Thank you Torre for putting Matsui in the clean up spot.

fumanstan
10-12-04, 09:09 PM
Even Schilling can't beat the curse

Rival11
10-12-04, 09:11 PM
Schilling's eating his words right about now :)

Bushdog
10-12-04, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Rival11
Schilling's eating his words right about now :) Win or lose for the Red Sox, this game, Schilling looks like an idiot ab