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RoyalTea
09-27-04, 08:41 PM
I think he should have gone back and done something about the dispicable Wookie racism.

Luke and Han both get medals after blowing up the Death Star at the end of Episode IV, but Chewbacca doesn't?

That's bullshit.

Nesbit
09-27-04, 09:03 PM
I'd like it if they made luke's lightsaber one color throughout the movie in new hope. As far as changes to content hmm... nope can't think of anything.

mjlukich
09-27-04, 09:23 PM
Yeah, I think that there is a change that should have been changed, so to speak.

Instead of having Greedo shoot first, I think he should have just committed suicide. Really. Greedo should have just sat down in the booth, complained to Han about how his job as a bounty hunter sucked, then pulled out his blaster and shot himself in the head. Maybe Lucas can make that change in the next revision.

headrippa
09-27-04, 10:04 PM
During the battle of Hoth, I would have liked the speeders the rebels flew, to have some sort of dashboard lights, instead of a blank empty panel.

Neeb
09-27-04, 10:19 PM
During the 'thermal detonator' part of Jabba's Palace, Boba Fett's antenna is on the LEFT side of his head.

It is supposed to be on the RIGHT side.

Hoping this gets fixed by 2007.

cactusoly
09-28-04, 12:55 AM
I would have liked to see the Biggs scenes and the Wampa scenes, and maybee the sandstorm too.

Shannon Nutt
09-28-04, 08:48 AM
There's a scene where Luke and Owen are buying the droids that has driven me crazy for years. After R5-D4 blows his motivator, we get a shot of R2-D2 turning his head and R5-D4 is standing right next to him in the background (although he's already been taken away at this point!). It's a repeat of an earlier shot of R2 turning his head. I wish Lucasfilm would digitally remove R5 in the background!

Eplicon
09-28-04, 09:11 AM
Here's another continuity error that he could probably have fixed. The first pic is the scene with the infamous door where the stormtrooper clunks his head. The reverse shot has the door a few inches higher than it was originally.


http://home.earthlink.net/~eplicon/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/door.jpg

Josh H
09-28-04, 12:51 PM
Fix Lukes lightsaber color in ANH to make it consistent.

Touch up the lightsabers during the Vader/Obi-wan battle.

Redo the effects inside the rebel base in ROTJ right before they leave for the death star attack. The Falcon and rest of the background are a matte painting and doesn't look realistic at all.

Get Me Coffee
09-28-04, 01:22 PM
I would love to see a version where all the models, puppets, and matted paintings all removed with CGI. It would be cool to see a "what if.." CGI was in full strenght then...

Plus it would give people more to bitch about.

brianluvdvd
09-28-04, 05:51 PM
I can't believe no one has mentioned taking out the "Tarzan Yell" done by Chewbacca in Return of the Jedi. One of the truly awful scenes that I despise.

Captain Harlock
09-28-04, 07:43 PM
I haven't watched Return of the Jedi yet, but I never liked that little glob of whatever it was on the Emporer's hood. You know what I'm talking about, it's like a big black worm floating there. Of all the things not to fix how did he say "Yeah that really doesn't look too bad".

DarthMarino
09-29-04, 12:09 AM
It always bothered me that the rebel's Death Star plans were incorrect in A New Hope. The round part for the primary weapon is much lower than it should be. I was suprised when they didn't fix this in 1997. Then Attack of the Clones rolls around which takes place 20 years prior and the plans were perfect so I was certain they would just throw those versions in for the new release. Of course, they still remain incorrect.

Shannon Nutt
09-29-04, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Josh Hinkle

Redo the effects inside the rebel base in ROTJ right before they leave for the death star attack. The Falcon and rest of the background are a matte painting and doesn't look realistic at all.

I believe this is because they didn't rebuild the full-size Falcon model after Empire...just the cockpit part. They did touch this up in the new edition so it doesn't look so obvious - removing some lines around the actors.

Josh H
09-29-04, 01:15 PM
Yeah, but the background still looks like crap. They should just cg it and be done. Matte paintings don't work when the background is that close and that large.

darqleo
09-29-04, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by mjlukich
Instead of having Greedo shoot first, I think he should have just committed suicide. Really. Greedo should have just sat down in the booth, complained to Han about how his job as a bounty hunter sucked, then pulled out his blaster and shot himself in the head. Maybe Lucas can make that change in the next revision.

:lol:

shizawn
09-29-04, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Shannon Nutt
There's a scene where Luke and Owen are buying the droids that has driven me crazy for years. After R5-D4 blows his motivator, we get a shot of R2-D2 turning his head and R5-D4 is standing right next to him in the background (although he's already been taken away at this point!). It's a repeat of an earlier shot of R2 turning his head. I wish Lucasfilm would digitally remove R5 in the background!

I noticed this for the first time when I watched the movie on Tuesday. Strange I hadn't seen it before, but yeah, it's pretty sloppy.

DouglasRobert
09-29-04, 09:35 PM
There's a scene in Empire Strikes Back that was changed, but not completely.

It's the scene in Cloud City where Lando leads Han into the trap by Darth Vader.

They walk by the wall and it is changed to add the window and the moving elevators. They open the door and Vader is inside.

When the Stormtroopers show up and they are in the background, the window scene is now the way it was before the window was digitally added. It's exactly the same as in the Pre-97 version.

Neil S. Bulk
09-29-04, 09:53 PM
He should have updated the end titles and the copyright dates on all of the films.

Neil

phraseturner
09-30-04, 12:05 AM
In ANH, before Luke's "What a piece of junk!" line, we see the Falcon in the docking bay, and clearly, they only built one side of the full-size ship on the set. radar dish? Nope, not there. They could have added this digitally, but haven't yet.

Yes, please remove the extra R5-D4 droid shot in ANH. And flip the Boba Fett show in JEDI in Jabba's palace with the visor sighting thing on the wrong side. Actually, there is at least one flipped shot in each movie. Why Lucas does this, I don't know...

Flip the R2-D2 shot when the heros are stepping off the Rebel transport in the Yavin base, just before the next shot of R2 getting plugged up to download the Death Star plans.

They missed those flipped shots, but DID fix the Imperial insignias in that one flipped shot at the end of EMPIRE.

I usually catch these thing on the first viewing, and they drive me crazy.

There's on in the first Spiderman film: Peter looking up at MY on the balcony during the street parade. Peter's hair is parted on the wrong side for just one show.

Rivero
09-30-04, 09:38 AM
They should have digitally erased that guy to the left of the screen in the greenish shirt whose back you see walking on the Falcon, obviously a crewmember. It's the very first shot after the stormtroopers see the Falcon fly away from Mos Eisley (55:41). It never bothered me that much before but now the picture is so pristine it's annoying as hell.

Qui Gon Jim
09-30-04, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Captain Harlock
I haven't watched Return of the Jedi yet, but I never liked that little glob of whatever it was on the Emporer's hood. You know what I'm talking about, it's like a big black worm floating there. Of all the things not to fix how did he say "Yeah that really doesn't look too bad".

I didn't notice this on the new DVDs and I was actively looking for it. Is it there still? I will review it again.

One thing I hate is when Luke takes the shuttle as the DS2 is exploding and flies out the hangar, the flame that follow the shuttle looks cheesy. I also think that there needs to be consistent effort in fixing the sabers in ANH. Fix Luke's, Ben's and Vader's. The pop up TIEs in the DS2 battle need fixing too.

And there is also Jedi Rocks....:rolleyes:

Rivero
09-30-04, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Qui Gon Jim
I didn't notice this on the new DVDs and I was actively looking for it. Is it there still?

The one time it's very noticeable is the shot with the two sabres across the screen and Palpatine cackling in the middle. It's like they left the Slug in there for that one shot for ol' time's sake.

Rammsteinfan
09-30-04, 10:55 AM
I vote for the removal of the R5 error and coloring Chewies feet when he swings on the vine with the ewoks.

Bluebomber
10-01-04, 03:13 PM
Well besides Chewwie not getting a medal in ANH I thought it was also odd that Wedge got left out in the cold as well.

dvdaddiction
10-02-04, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by DarthMarino
It always bothered me that the rebel's Death Star plans were incorrect in A New Hope. The round part for the primary weapon is much lower than it should be. I was suprised when they didn't fix this in 1997. Then Attack of the Clones rolls around which takes place 20 years prior and the plans were perfect so I was certain they would just throw those versions in for the new release. Of course, they still remain incorrect.

You make an excellent point and I've wondered about this myself. I can't believe Luca$ missed this. It makes me wonder if it was intentional. Maybe the plans were not the "official" plans from AOTC, but a bothan/rebel copy (not a very good one). If Luca$ just missed this, then I'm amazed he can pick up and change a meaningless thing like the colour of a single pubic hair on Jabba's crotch.

BizRodian
10-03-04, 01:06 AM
or maybe in the blueprint, the deathstar was tilted a few degrees.. it IS a sphere after all ;)

The flipped shots and effects bloopers (Emperor's slugs, glass reflections, R5 behind R2.. etc..) are what bug me the most. So easy to fix too...

Loc Nar
10-06-04, 09:41 PM
I also noticed the R5 goof for the first time when I recently watched A New Hope. Two other things bothered me a bit. One was when Ben sliced the arm off the bully in the cantina. I had thought it was now canon that light saber dissections completely cauterize the wound, and I thought I had heard that they were going to fix that shot to eliminate the blood around the svered end of the arm on the ground. They didn't. When the snow beast in Empire gets his arm whacked, the wound is completely cauterized.

Another thing that bothered me in A New Hope is something that has bothered me for years, and that is when the Death Star is closing in on the Rebel Base, some Death Star flunky announces that the Rebel Base will be within range in 30 minutes. While this is being said, you see a primitive computer animated graphic of the Rebel Base moon slowly coming into view from behind the planet, but the time ticker at the bottom right of the graphic shows 30, but is ticking down rapidly in seconds, not minutes. The speed of the rebel base moon graphic is also moving at a rate that it would be in range in 30 seconds, not minutes. A minor annoyance for me, but a seemingly easily fixable oversight as well. Overall, still two big thumbs up though.

AdamComic2
10-10-04, 03:17 PM
How about changing the Stormtroopers voices to Temura Morrison (assuming that they are still clones by this point)?

BizRodian
10-11-04, 02:56 AM
I'm sure they were still clones (since they all seem to have the whole weakminded, follow orders always kind of way) just clones of different people. In Episode II, Jango had to stay close by because they kept needing samples for cloning. Jango kind of died.

One was when Ben sliced the arm off the bully in the cantina. I had thought it was now canon that light saber dissections completely cauterize the wound, and I thought I had heard that they were going to fix that shot to eliminate the blood around the svered end of the arm on the ground.

Well, he was hardly gushing blood, it wasn't Kill Bill.

brianluvdvd
10-11-04, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Shannon Nutt
There's a scene where Luke and Owen are buying the droids that has driven me crazy for years. After R5-D4 blows his motivator, we get a shot of R2-D2 turning his head and R5-D4 is standing right next to him in the background (although he's already been taken away at this point!). It's a repeat of an earlier shot of R2 turning his head. I wish Lucasfilm would digitally remove R5 in the background!

Man, I wish you had never mentioned this. I watched it last night & now I will always catch that in the future.

I had never looked for the stormtrooper's head-bump before but now that the picture is so nice, I caught it right away.

The one change I wish would be made (which will never happen) is the whole Luke-Leia brother-sister b.s. that was tacked on in Return of the Jedi. It makes the first two movies a little icky in certain parts.

Josh H
10-12-04, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Loc Nar
I had thought it was now canon that light saber dissections completely cauterize the wound, and I thought I had heard that they were going to fix that shot to eliminate the blood around the svered end of the arm on the ground.

I wouldn't say it's canon. I mean there's like a misty cloud of blood when Darth Maul gets hacked in half in TPM.

al_bundy
10-12-04, 03:09 PM
they should have gone back and made LCD or some other kind of digital controls and avionics on everything. As it is, we have ships that can travel faster than light with controls that look ancient by our standards.

Duder
10-12-04, 04:34 PM
I was rather surprised to see some black squares behind Tie Fighters in ANH. Special effects fixes should have been top priority.

Daytrip
10-12-04, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by al_bundy
they should have gone back and made LCD or some other kind of digital controls and avionics on everything. As it is, we have ships that can travel faster than light with controls that look ancient by our standards.

it's kind of the appeal to the Star Wars universe. they have digital cool looking gauges in the first two movies in the OT they are scrapping together anything that flies to try and take out the Empire, they are rebels. it wouldn't seem as real if everything was clean and new

Snowmaker
10-13-04, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Neeb
During the 'thermal detonator' part of Jabba's Palace, Boba Fett's antenna is on the LEFT side of his head.

It is supposed to be on the RIGHT side.

Hoping this gets fixed by 2007. Actually, the film is backwards there, not just the helmet scope. You'll notice his cape and gun are on the wrong side too.

I.Like.It
10-13-04, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Rivero
They should have digitally erased that guy to the left of the screen in the greenish shirt whose back you see walking on the Falcon, obviously a crewmember.

I love that scene! Hope it never gets fixed. I love pointing that guy out!

"Hey! Look at the stow-a-way!"

Abob Teff
10-16-04, 01:30 AM
Wow -- I'm really surprised that only one person has mentioned "Jedi Rocks." Not only was the whole concept stupid to begin with, but the CG is quite possibly the single worst special effect in the whole series! (Yes, even worse than the addition of Jabba to ANH.)

How about updating the Rancor monster scenes? And possibly cleaning up some of the other stop-motion stuff (such as the AT-ATs and AT-STs and the chess game).

After watching the movies again, I must say that I don't hold quite the same disdain for ANH and ESB . . . now the changes made to Jedi are another story . . .