The Special Edition trilogy is better than the original trilogy!
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The Special Edition trilogy is better than the original trilogy!
Having watched both the original and special edition I must say that the special edition trilogy is much better than the original trilogy. The pacing is much better, it looks much more realistic and some scenes add more depth to the characters like the one with Jabba.
The reversed stereo mix is weird, but in no way changes anything about the movie.
And Greedo shooting first or Han shooting first doesn't make a damn difference to me I don't know why everyone is crying about that so much.
Overall, the special edition kicks the original's arse.
The reversed stereo mix is weird, but in no way changes anything about the movie.
And Greedo shooting first or Han shooting first doesn't make a damn difference to me I don't know why everyone is crying about that so much.
Overall, the special edition kicks the original's arse.
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Originally posted by brianluvdvd
Hey...I don't care if people like the new versions better than the old ones. I just wish the original versions were available. Enjoy.
Hey...I don't care if people like the new versions better than the old ones. I just wish the original versions were available. Enjoy.
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I like them as well. I wish greedo didn't shoot at all (but the new scene with them shooting at the same time is much better) and the Jabba scene is pointless, but neither bother me enough to impair my enjoyment of the movies.
The other changes I really like, especially the touched up and new special effects. I just wish they'd touch everything up (i.e. Luke's lightsaber changing colors in ANH).
The other changes I really like, especially the touched up and new special effects. I just wish they'd touch everything up (i.e. Luke's lightsaber changing colors in ANH).
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Yeah, I have no problem that anyone might prefer the new cuts. If you like these versions better, you're in the majority, I guess.
I'd just like to have nice DVD versions of the films I originally fell in love with. I can enjoy these new DVDs for what they are, but I can still feel regret and frustration and occasionally anger for what could have been. Oh well.
I'd just like to have nice DVD versions of the films I originally fell in love with. I can enjoy these new DVDs for what they are, but I can still feel regret and frustration and occasionally anger for what could have been. Oh well.
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Doesn't make any difference if the SE's are 100 times better than the originals - from a film history perspective, fans and students of cinema deserve to have the originals available on a quality format such as DVD.
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Cleaned up fx. Good...especially during the first Death Star battle.
Greedo...better in this version...I can overlook it.
Cutting out the magnesium flares on Imperials...very stupid.
Greedo...better in this version...I can overlook it.
Cutting out the magnesium flares on Imperials...very stupid.
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Originally posted by Rammsteinfan
I think Empire has the best changes/additions.
I think Empire has the best changes/additions.
Everything else was perfect.
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The only change I don't think works is adding Hayden at the end of ROTJ. Since both Yoda's and Obi-wan's ghosts are when they are old. It makes sense to make Anakin an old ghost.
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Originally posted by jiggawhat
The only change I don't think works is adding Hayden at the end of ROTJ. Since both Yoda's and Obi-wan's ghosts are when they are old. It makes sense to make Anakin an old ghost.
The only change I don't think works is adding Hayden at the end of ROTJ. Since both Yoda's and Obi-wan's ghosts are when they are old. It makes sense to make Anakin an old ghost.
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Originally posted by fumanstan
The explanation thats been posted a few times that makes sense to me is that Anakin appears young because thats when he was still a Jedi. I'm fine with that.
The explanation thats been posted a few times that makes sense to me is that Anakin appears young because thats when he was still a Jedi. I'm fine with that.
It also makes no sense for Anakin to appear to Luke as a ghost he would not recognize.
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Lucas really should have tried to figure out a way to get Han to not walk on Jabba's tail. It just takes me out of the scene. And I could also live without the dance sequence in ROTJ. Other than that, I think the SEs are tremendously entertaining and I love them, but the only thing I wished is that we actually got MORE changes (not to piss off the fans, but to add to the movie, like the Biggs/Luke scene on Tatooine) and that we also got the original cuts. I know if Lucas gave us the original cuts on DVD, all the bad buzz about the changes would fall off the face of Internet message boards. At least most of it would.
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Originally posted by jim_cook87
That explanation does not work. Anakin could not have become one with the Force and appeared as a Jedi ghost if he had not redeemed himself (regaining his Jedi status) by turning his back to the Dark Side and saving Luke in the end. Anakin died a Jedi.
It also makes no sense for Anakin to appear to Luke as a ghost he would not recognize.
That explanation does not work. Anakin could not have become one with the Force and appeared as a Jedi ghost if he had not redeemed himself (regaining his Jedi status) by turning his back to the Dark Side and saving Luke in the end. Anakin died a Jedi.
It also makes no sense for Anakin to appear to Luke as a ghost he would not recognize.
Also, i don't think it would be too hard for Luke to know who the person is. It seems that he can feel who his family is within, like Leia and Vader as his father. Again, just a small change thats no big deal at all to me.
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Well I didnt like the Anakin replacement scene simply because while Obi-Wan is smiling and happy, the young Anakin looks kinda pissed. In fact, I think most of the changes I dont like are in ROTJ. First of all, all of the music changes in Jabbas Palace stink...the original music fit in much better. There seems to be a "lets see how many weird creatures we can pack into this movie" take on things as well, and I really dont like how the Sarlac makes me think of Little Shop of Horrors. The celebrations scenes at the end is the only time in the entire trilogy that someone who has limited their Star Wars universe to those three films would say "what the hell is that?"...plus being completely CGI in a movie that is still mostly real sets is kinda distracting...it has this "Hey look, this is a new scene!!" feel to it.
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Originally posted by Jason Bovberg
Yeah, I have no problem that anyone might prefer the new cuts. If you like these versions better, you're in the majority, I guess.
Yeah, I have no problem that anyone might prefer the new cuts. If you like these versions better, you're in the majority, I guess.
If he'd released the original, just cleaned it up, sales would have been exactly the same.
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Re: The Special Edition trilogy is better than the original trilogy!
Originally posted by jiggawhat
Overall, the special edition kicks the original's arse.
Overall, the special edition kicks the original's arse.
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Re: Re: The Special Edition trilogy is better than the original trilogy!
Originally posted by Rivero
You're obviously just trying to start shit for the sake of starting shit. I'd chew you out but someone who posts this is obviously not serious.
You're obviously just trying to start shit for the sake of starting shit. I'd chew you out but someone who posts this is obviously not serious.
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Re: Re: Re: The Special Edition trilogy is better than the original trilogy!
Re: Re: The Special Edition trilogy is better than the original trilogy!
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Originally posted by Rivero
You're obviously just trying to start shit for the sake of starting shit. I'd chew you out but someone who posts this is obviously not serious.
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I think what Rivero is getting at is that the odds of someone who is enough of a fan to seek out and post in a dedicated Star Wars forum actually preferring the SE's over the originals are very slim. Sure, there are probably plenty of Joe Sixpack types who think that the golly-gee whiz-bang factor of the added special effects automatically make the SEs superior. But then those people are the ones who buy the fullscreen sets, and they don't generally post in forums.
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Originally posted by Rivero
You're obviously just trying to start shit for the sake of starting shit. I'd chew you out but someone who posts this is obviously not serious.
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Originally posted by MJKTool
Why the hell would he be trying to start shit? Guess what.... not all people have the same opinion as you. And your opinion doesnt make you *right*. Holy shit! Get over yourself already!
Why the hell would he be trying to start shit? Guess what.... not all people have the same opinion as you. And your opinion doesnt make you *right*. Holy shit! Get over yourself already!