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When Britney's greatest hits album, entitled Greatest Hits: My Prerogative, hits stores on November 9, it will include 17 tracks, including "Do Somethin'," which was previously unreleased and "(I've Just Begun) Having My Fun," which previously was available only on European releases of the In the Zone DVD. The song order for the new album will be:<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="6"><tr valign="top"><td><font size=2>
1. My Prerogative
2. Toxic
3. I'm a Slave 4 U
4. Oops! ... I Did It Again
5. Me Against the Music
6. Stronger
7. Everytime
8. ... Baby One More Time
9. (You Drive Me) Crazy (The Stop Remix!)
10. Boys
11. Sometimes
12. Overprotected (The Darkchild Remix)
13. Lucky
14. Outrageous
15. I'm Not A Girl, Not Yet a Woman
16. (I've Just Begun) Having My Fun
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2004 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED
2003 In The Zone
2001 Britney
2000 Oops! ... I Did It Again
2003 In The Zone
2000 Oops! ... I Did It Again
2003 In The Zone
1999 ... Baby One More Time
1999 ... Baby One More Time
2001 Britney
1999 ... Baby One More Time
2001 Britney
2000 Oops! ... I Did It Again
2003 In The Zone
2001 Britney
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I just saw part of the video of My Prerogative on Entertainment tonight, just last night. I just remember her dancing on a car.
Apparently, the full video was leaked on Launch.com but then they pulled it. I'm sure somebody's got a download somewhere.
MJKTool
09-17-04, 03:12 PM
A greatest hits cd already?? Is this a new world record?
DJLinus
09-17-04, 03:19 PM
What, no "E-mail My Heart?"
Originally posted by MJKTool
A greatest hits cd already?? Is this a new world record?
I remember seeing greatest hits CDs from artists that have only two albums out.
MJKTool
09-17-04, 03:20 PM
wow, do you know who those artists are?
DJLinus
09-17-04, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by MJKTool
wow, do you know who those artists are?
I'll have to think about it. I know that I've seen 'em - mostly from browsing allmusic for hours on end.
Numanoid
09-17-04, 03:47 PM
Now I'm no Spears follower, but doesn't that track list include EVERY single she's ever released? If so, this isn't really a "Greatest" Hits package, now is it? You can't have greater without there being some lesser. Now, if she had called it "Britney Spears: The Singles", that would have been accurate.
TeeSeeJay
09-17-04, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by DJLinus
What, no "E-mail My Heart?"
I remember seeing greatest hits CDs from artists that have only two albums out.
The Gin Blossoms have had 2 greatest hits CDs after only 2 albums: New Miserable Experience in 1992, Congratulations I'm Sorry in 1996, Greatest Hits in 1999, and 20th Century Masters collection in 2003.
fumanstan
09-17-04, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Numanoid
Now I'm no Spears follower, but doesn't that track list include EVERY single she's ever released? If so, this isn't really a "Greatest" Hits package, now is it? You can't have greater without there being some lesser. Now, if she had called it "Britney Spears: The Singles", that would have been accurate.
Well... the singles are generally the ones that end up "popular" and get radio play. I think its appropriate.
darqleo
09-17-04, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Demontooth
I can't think of anything witty to say
I'll give it a shot
*ahem*
I guess she's cashing in while the cashin' in is good, seeing that her 15 minutes are almost up and she's eager to retire in white trash hell with the new hubby.
auto
09-17-04, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by MJKTool
wow, do you know who those artists are?
Back Street Boys come to mind. It's a sure sign the career is over.
DJLinus
09-17-04, 06:48 PM
Gin Blossoms! That's one of the ones that I remember seeing (although I didn't realize that they had two greatest hits CDs).
Originally posted by jay77
Back Street Boys come to mind. It's a sure sign the career is over.
Originally posted by bigjim25
When Britney's greatest hits album, entitled Greatest Hits: My Prerogative, hits stores on November 9, it will include 17 tracks, including "Do Somethin'," which was previously unreleased and "(I've Just Begun) Having My Fun," which previously was available only on European releases of the In the Zone DVD. The song order for the new album will be:
My Prerogative
Toxic
I'm a Slave 4 U
Oops! ... I Did It Again
Me Against the Music
Stronger
Everytime
... Baby One More Time
(You Drive Me) Crazy (The Stop Remix!)
Boys
Sometimes
Overprotected (The Darkchild Remix)
Lucky
Outrageous
I'm Not A Girl, Not Yet a Woman
(I've Just Begun) Having My Fun
Do Somethin' That's all well and good, but what will the CD cover look like?
Corvin
09-18-04, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by darqleo
I guess she's cashing in while the cashin' in is good, seeing that her 15 minutes are almost up and she's eager to retire in white trash hell with the new hubby.
I don't think that's witty so much as it is entirely true.
fallow
09-18-04, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Numanoid
Now I'm no Spears follower, but doesn't that track list include EVERY single she's ever released? If so, this isn't really a "Greatest" Hits package, now is it? You can't have greater without there being some lesser. Now, if she had called it "Britney Spears: The Singles", that would have been accurate.
A cd including all of her singles =/= a cd comprised only of singles. So the title is appropriate. And you guys do realize that her "15 mins" has lasted half a decade, right?
NitroJMS
09-18-04, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by fallow
A cd including all of her singles =/= a cd comprised only of singles. So the title is appropriate. And you guys do realize that her "15 mins" has lasted half a decade, right?
I was going to post something similar. People have been saying her "15 minutes" are going to be up any minute now since about the summer of 1999 and its starting to get very annoying. I think she's starting to echo Madonna's early career, where people said the exact same thing every time she brought out a new cd.
She did leave off "From the Bottom of My Broken Heart" from the new hits collection, but that song was awful anyway. I was hoping to see "Born to Make You Happy," but it was only a European single.
DRG
09-18-04, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Numanoid
Now I'm no Spears follower, but doesn't that track list include EVERY single she's ever released?
Comparing that list to her album tracklistings, I see at least two songs from her first two albums ("From the Bottom of my Broken Heart" and "Don't Let Me Be the Last To Know") that were singles that don't appear here. Both received a lot of radio play and had videos on MTV, and I actually think the latter is one of her better songs.
And no, I don't know why I know this. :)
MJKTool
09-18-04, 04:32 PM
Britney will never echo Madonna fame imo. At least Madonna was original, whereas Spears has bitten off just about everything Madonna has done. Even down to the "slutty years", which seems to be where Britney is right now and is what is seeming to keep her alive.
fallow
09-18-04, 04:50 PM
Achieving Madonna's fame has nothing to do with originality, really (and NitroJMS doesn't suggest it does), so yr point is lost.
Rypro 525
09-18-04, 05:11 PM
damn, i wanted a dvd at least showcasing, her um... talent (2000 vma's comes to mind)
Demontooth
09-18-04, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Alvis
I have all three of these. :)
I do too
MJKTool
09-18-04, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by fallow
Achieving Madonna's fame has nothing to do with originality, really (and NitroJMS doesn't suggest it does), so yr point is lost.
Yes it does. There was no one like Madonna before her. Thus her originality contributed greatly to her massive fame. That can't be duplicated by someone who is constantly copying that. And I never said Nitro was trying to make that point. I was just throwing that comment out there because there was a comparison to their earlier careers. so yr comment is lost.
wm lopez
09-18-04, 11:37 PM
Elton John had his 1st hits album out in 1974 and he arrived on the scene in 1972.
And the Eagles had a early hits album too.
Barry White had one in 1975 and he started in 1972.
There are many more.
dolphinboy
09-19-04, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by NitroJMS
I was going to post something similar. People have been saying her "15 minutes" are going to be up any minute now since about the summer of 1999 and its starting to get very annoying. I think she's starting to echo Madonna's early career, where people said the exact same thing every time she brought out a new cd.
Madonna has talent. Madonna can sing. She's not the greatest vocalist, but she can still sing.
I'm pretty sure people started to realize this by True Blue. She was young when she did the famous popping out of the cake in the wedding dress at the MTV awards.
When she was pushing SEX, even then it was more like she just wanted to express herself that way, rather than her being a "slut." It didn't work and it was dumb, but the worst thing Madonna has done is better than anything Britney's done.
If Britney can get past being known only for being a slut, if she can mature enough to realize that her voice is what it is and just stop with all the lip-synching, and if she can do anything somewhat original, I'll be first in line to admit my mistake, but Britney is nothing but a creation.
There are other 18 year old "hotties" that look 15/16 that can sing songs other people wrote for them and then go out and perform them with the mic off and the record playing.
Britney can only sell sex and she hasn't been looking too good lately, so that might be the end of her. At least she has her 130 million dollars to fall back on. And that intellectual superhero she's marrying. I'd rather have Sean Penn locking me in the closet and beating up photographers.
ElementZ
09-19-04, 01:46 PM
One of my (used to be) favourite hip hop groups, Fu-Schnickens. These guys are pretty relatively unknown. BUT, they are the group resposible for bringing Shaq into rap music. Maybe that is why they are not around anymore. Funny thing is, I don't think they ever had a hit, so not sure why they made a greatest hits album after only 2 albums.
1st album
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2nd album
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Greatest Hits album
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Osiris
09-19-04, 10:13 PM
Britney can sell me sex anytime :hump:
Rogue588
09-20-04, 03:08 AM
I feel the need to defend Steve Perry for some reason...;)from AllMusic.com
At the time that Columbia Records released Steve Perry's Greatest Hits + Five Unreleased, the former Journey lead singer had scored exactly one Top Ten hit as a solo artist ("Oh Sherrie")and placed four other songs in the Top 40, one of which ("Foolish Heart") reached the Top Ten of the adult contemporary charts. It was not the sort of record that would seem to justify the release of a 17-track hits collection. In addition to the hits, the set included assorted album tracks from Perry's two solo albums, Street Talk (1984) and For The Love Of Strange Medicine (1994); a couple of songs from the Quest For Camelot soundtrack; four tracks recorded in 1988 for his intended second album, Against The Wall ("Unfortunately, it was never released," he noted tersely); and the 1977 demo recording that led to Perry' s joining Journey. While the collection certainly presented the best of Steve Perry so far as well as some interesting curiosities, it hardly lived up to the usual standard expected of an album called Greatest Hits, simply because Perry's hadn't scored enough hits to have a Greatest Hits album. Either this was a stopgap release to keep the singer's name before the public or a contractual obligation, the latter justification being indicated by the odd release date in mid-December.However, I also believe he was going through some personal/medical problems which hindered his recording both solo and with Journey [until '96s Trial By Fire.Originally posted by wm lopez
Elton John had his 1st hits album out in 1974 and he arrived on the scene in 1972. And the Eagles had a early hits album too. Barry White had one in 1975 and he started in 1972. There are many more. Only difference is that those are real artists. :D
Well, the Eagles had four albums, Barry had six and Elton had ten [-eek- in FOUR years!] before his...Originally posted by dolphinboy
Madonna has talent. Madonna can sing. She's not the greatest vocalist, but she can still sing.
I'm pretty sure people started to realize this by True Blue. She was young when she did the famous popping out of the cake in the wedding dress at the MTV awards.
When she was pushing SEX, even then it was more like she just wanted to express herself that way, rather than her being a "slut." It didn't work and it was dumb, but the worst thing Madonna has done is better than anything Britney's done.
If Britney can get past being known only for being a slut, if she can mature enough to realize that her voice is what it is and just stop with all the lip-synching, and if she can do anything somewhat original, I'll be first in line to admit my mistake, but Britney is nothing but a creation.
There are other 18 year old "hotties" that look 15/16 that can sing songs other people wrote for them and then go out and perform them with the mic off and the record playing.
Britney can only sell sex and she hasn't been looking too good lately, so that might be the end of her. At least she has her 130 million dollars to fall back on. And that intellectual superhero she's marrying. I'd rather have Sean Penn locking me in the closet and beating up photographers. [/size]Amen. :up:
I saw the video for My Prerogative. -ohbfrank- :yack: -ohbfrank-
In honour of her wedding for this week, here's her chart standings [not accounting for taste...]1998/99 ...Baby One More Time Canadian Singles Chart 1, Adult Top 40 25, Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 41, Rhythmic Top 40 10, The Billboard Hot 100 1, Top 40 Mainstream 1, Top 40 Tracks 3.
1999 (You Drive Me) Crazy Canadian Singles Chart 13, Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 24, Rhythmic Top 40 9, The Billboard Hot 100 10, Top 40 Mainstream 4, Top 40 Tracks 3
1999 Sometimes Adult Top 40 29, Rhythmic Top 40 12, The Billboard Hot 100 21, Top 40 Mainstream 6, Top 40 Tracks 9
2000 From the Bottom of My Broken Heart Rhythmic Top 40 26, The Billboard Hot 100 14, Top 40 Mainstream 17, Top 40 Tracks 24
2000 Lucky Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 39, Rhythmic Top 40 14, The Billboard Hot 100 23, Top 40 Mainstream 9, Top 40 Tracks 16
2000 Oops! ... I Did It Again Adult Top 40 27, Canadian Singles Chart 4, Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 22, Hot Latin Tracks 39, Latin Pop Airplay 16, Latin Tropical/Salsa Airplay 15, Rhythmic Top 40 8, The Billboard Hot 100 9, Top 40 Mainstream 1, Top 40 Tracks 2
2000 Stronger Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 2, Rhythmic Top 40 37, Top 40 Mainstream 17, Top 40 Tracks 28, The Billboard Hot 100 11
2001 I'm a Slave 4 U Canadian Singles Chart 8, Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 8, Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 85, Rhythmic Top 40 21, The Billboard Hot 100 27, Top 40 Mainstream 15, Top 40 Tracks 18, Hot Dance Music/Club Play 4
2002 Boys Canadian Singles Chart 21, Top 40 Mainstream 38
2002 I'm Not a Girl, Not Yet a Woman Top 40 Mainstream 21, Top 40 Tracks 32
2002 Overprotected Canadian Singles Chart 22, The Billboard Hot 100 86, Top 40 Mainstream 37
2003 Me Against the Music Top 40 Mainstream 11, Top 40 Tracks 15
2004 Everytime Adult Top 40 25, Canadian Singles Chart 2, Hot Dance Music/Club Play 17, Hot Dance Singles Sales 23, The Billboard Hot 100 15, Top 40 Mainstream 4, Top 40 Tracks 7
2004 Me Against the Music Canadian Singles Chart 2, Hot Dance Music/Club Play 1, Hot Dance Singles Sales 1, The Billboard Hot 100 35
2004 Outrageous Hot Dance Music/Club Play 27, Hot Dance Music/Club Play 32, Hot Dance Singles Sales 14, Hot Dance Singles Sales 14, The Billboard Hot 100 79, Top 40 Mainstream 23, Top 40 Tracks 38
2004 Sometimes Adult Contemporary 2
2004 Toxic Adult Top 40 37, Canadian Singles Chart 1, Hot Dance Music/Club Play 1, Hot Dance Singles Sales 3, Latin Pop Airplay 35, Rhythmic Top 40 16, The Billboard Hot 100 9, Top 40 Mainstream 1, Top 40 Tracks 2
Alvis
09-20-04, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Demontooth
I do too
Cool. Do you have to the two cd singles from FTLOSM? Each one has three or four extra tracks on it. One or two of them aren't on the Greatest Hits +5 unreleased package.
Originally posted by Alvis
Cool. Do you have to the two cd singles from FTLOSM? Each one has three or four extra tracks on it. One or two of them aren't on the Greatest Hits +5 unreleased package.
I don't think I have the singles. I have so many cd's I have a hard time remembering them all. I would like to have them. I like that Greatest Hits + 5 cd.
fumanstan
09-20-04, 12:02 PM
I'd take Britney over any Madonna of the 2000's :)
DonnachaOne
09-20-04, 12:09 PM
http://www.undercover.com.au/pics/bobbybrown.jpg
Sullying the good name of BOBBY BROWN...
fallow
09-20-04, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by MJKTool
Yes it does. There was no one like Madonna before her. Thus her originality contributed greatly to her massive fame. That can't be duplicated by someone who is constantly copying that. And I never said Nitro was trying to make that point. I was just throwing that comment out there because there was a comparison to their earlier careers. so yr comment is lost.
No, again, achieving Madonna's fame has nothing to do with originality. Fame is something quantifiable: record sales; ticket sales; name recognition; cultural capital; etc. How Britney gets there (cf. originality) doesn't have anything to do with that she gets there (cf. achieving Madonna's fame).
MJKTool
09-20-04, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by fallow
No, again, achieving Madonna's fame has nothing to do with originality.
Nonsense.
DonnachaOne
09-20-04, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by MJKTool
wow, do you know who those artists are?
The Stone Roses, for one.
The Stone Roses
Second Coming
... followed by their greatest hits.
iggystar
09-21-04, 10:52 AM
Ok while you guys debate who is better Britney or Madonna, I'll ask my question.
The (You Drive Me) Crazy (The Stop Remix), is this the version that they played on the radio (and appears on the video)?
The version on the album (and other compilations) were wack.
I like Britney and Madonna. I think the Madonna has more quality as an artist. Britney is pure fluff entertainment.
fallow
09-21-04, 12:46 PM
Who is arguing about artistic worth?
grrrah
09-21-04, 01:44 PM
You guys do realize ther her "15 minutes" have been up for a loooong time. After her first album, her fame was limited to the 17&under, and the dirty old men classes.
Originally posted by fallow
A cd including all of her singles =/= a cd comprised only of singles. So the title is appropriate. And you guys do realize that her "15 mins" has lasted half a decade, right?
Originally posted by NitroJMS
I was going to post something similar. People have been saying her "15 minutes" are going to be up any minute now since about the summer of 1999 and its starting to get very annoying. I think she's starting to echo Madonna's early career, where people said the exact same thing every time she brought out a new cd.
Now, what am I doing in this thread :lol:
fallow
09-21-04, 03:02 PM
DVDTalk in overarching, baseless judgement SHOCKAH.
You guys do realize ther her "15 minutes" have been up for a loooong time. After her first album, her fame was limited to the 17&under, and the dirty old men classes.
2004 Me Against the Music Canadian Singles Chart 2, Hot Dance Music/Club Play 1, Hot Dance Singles Sales 1, The Billboard Hot 100 35
2004 Sometimes Adult Contemporary 2
2004 Toxic Adult Top 40 37, Canadian Singles Chart 1, Hot Dance Music/Club Play 1, Hot Dance Singles Sales 3, Latin Pop Airplay 35, Rhythmic Top 40 16, The Billboard Hot 100 9, Top 40 Mainstream 1, Top 40 Tracks 2
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Hahaha, it just struck me how funny it is that I'm defending her so much since I really only like "Toxic," but man you guys are just flat out wrong.
MJKTool
09-21-04, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by fallow
Hahaha, it just struck me how funny it is that I'm defending her so much since I really only like "Toxic," but man you guys are just flat out wrong.
whatever. its just you finally coming out of the britney fan closet.
tofu
09-21-04, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by iggystar
The (You Drive Me) Crazy (The Stop Remix), is this the version that they played on the radio (and appears on the video)?
I believe it is.
Aphex Twin
09-21-04, 07:53 PM
Is she trying to compete with MC Shaquille O'Neal?
Originally posted by fallow
No, again, achieving Madonna's fame has nothing to do with originality. Fame is something quantifiable: record sales; ticket sales; name recognition; cultural capital; etc. How Britney gets there (cf. originality) doesn't have anything to do with that she gets there (cf. achieving Madonna's fame).
Pure rubbish. Fame is quantifiable...not so. How would you quantify Charlize Theron's fame? What "fame" formula would you use? Because had she not won an Oscar and not been in a few good movies, she'd still be hot and she'd still be famous. Less famous, but by what number? There isn't one.
There shouldn't be a Britney/Madonna debate. Madonna was faceless when she had her first record. People thought she was a man. She does act like a man. She took part in changing music and she was a MASSIVE celebrity who most people took seriously even when she was being a bitch, which was most of the time. Britney, much like TNKOTB, was a short explosion of fame, most of it from the first cd which did have catchy tunes, of course non written by her and which most of them could never be performed live because Britney couldn't come close to sounding like the studio made her sound when she was live.
And about her 15 minutes...that's kind of tough to say. I usually think of the 15 minutes as being a time period where you actually matter. Britney only seems to be a story when her people create stories about her for the press. The last tour was terrible and the music was average and live was terrible. Unless she tries to use whatever singing talent she actually has or finds a way into movies, I'd say her time is about up. As long as the can still use her sexuality, which seems to be not even that great to a larger amount of people, what she is is more like a Paris Hilton. Britney is rich and can look very pretty, so she can always be famous if she wants to be. But she's nothing like what she was and sure seems like she's done as far as really being relevant.
Maybe she'll surprise me, I just don't think she has anything left to offer that people want from her. They don't seem to want her music they way the did and she doesn't seem like she can act. What's left for her to do?
fallow
09-21-04, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by MJKTool
whatever. its just you finally coming out of the britney fan closet.
I've made so many posts about how much I love "Toxic" and how much I love pop music (something this board seems to fear and something I feel that I can talk about because I once feared pop music, too) that I don't see how this is really coming out of the "britney fan closet."
Pure rubbish. Fame is quantifiable...not so.
Not all the time, but in terms of comparison there is a way of quantifying it (laid out in my post that you quoted). I mean, if we see that Britney, at some point in her career, matches Madonna's record sales, her ticket sales, her charts, etc, it would be accurate to say that Britney has attained a similar level of celebrity to Madonna. Obviously it omits parts of the whole story (how "original" she is, how "serious" she is, how "seriously" she's taken, whatever), but to say "fame = originality" is some of the most ridiculous, unchecked, unfounded bullshit I've read on this board. (So why do people not own records by Terry Riley and John Zorn? That should have been burning up the charts, man!)
Yr notion of "15 mins" is close to accurate but misses everything about being so, so temporary and so, so inconsequential. (The fact that I can say "Britney" and have you understand who I'm talking about is telling enough of her cultural impact.) Sure, it's about a period of relevant time, but that period has to be a flash in the pan in order to actually fit in the rules. By yr standards, it seems, "15 mins" can apply to Serge Gainsbourgh. And if the charts are to be trusted, Britney is still wildly popular. The Paris Hilton comparison is totally off the mark, since she surfaced for maybe a year and does anyone really care unless she walks down the red carpet? "Toxic" is like THE ubiquitous pop song of the year; similarly, "...Baby One More Time", "Oops!...I Did it Again", and "I'm a Slave 4 U" were everywhere.
Caveats about her originality, her inability to plan instruments, her inability to translate studio to live, and her sexual appeal being her saving grace is a judgement of her music, not her ability to rise and maintain prominence. If she banks on her sexuality for 15 more years, she still has "fame" whether or not it's what you want it to be.
dolphinboy
09-22-04, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by fallow
Not all the time, but in terms of comparison there is a way of quantifying it (laid out in my post that you quoted). I mean, if we see that Britney, at some point in her career, matches Madonna's record sales, her ticket sales, her charts, etc, it would be accurate to say that Britney has attained a similar level of celebrity to Madonna. Obviously it omits parts of the whole story (how "original" she is, how "serious" she is, how "seriously" she's taken, whatever), but to say "fame = originality" is some of the most ridiculous, unchecked, unfounded bullshit I've read on this board. (So why do people not own records by Terry Riley and John Zorn? That should have been burning up the charts, man!)
There was way too much bs in your post for me to waste my time on, but if you were going to compare Madonna's fame to Britney's fame, record sales would be only a part of it and with Madonna's level of fame, not even a big one.
There is no way to quantify that Madonna is maybe THE celebrity of my lifetime and Britney would be not even be that interesting in a room of many other celebrities, a list of which would also be too long to waste my time on.
I'm not bagging on Britney, but I see no actual way to quantify it, but Madonna has reached a level of fame that Britney will never get to and that's not an insult to Britney. I think she's ok, myself but, music aside, she still can't come close to Madonna in terms of fame, talent, originality or even in choosing husbands.
MJKTool
09-22-04, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by fallow
but to say "fame = originality" is some of the most ridiculous, unchecked, unfounded bullshit I've read on this board.
I said in Madonna's case! I said it contributed to her fame greatly. I didnt say in general. What part of that dont you understand? And its not anymore a ridiculous, unchecked, unfounded bullshit post than yours claiming "Fame is quantifiable".....actually its way less. Yours is fucking laughable.
fallow
09-22-04, 03:26 PM
Obviously we're talking about the difference between means and ends (though maybe this has been obvious to only me the whole time?). And both of you have yet to show me how the potential figures that I talked about earlier mean nothing. You can't insult me into believing you.
MJKTool
09-22-04, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by fallow
You can't insult me into believing you.
And you can't insult me into believing you either kettle.
Originally posted by fallow
but to say "fame = originality" is some of the most ridiculous, unchecked, unfounded bullshit I've read on this board.
iggystar
09-23-04, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by fallow
Who is arguing about artistic worth?
I'm not. I simply stated that I like both and why (and since the contents of this thread has diverted from the subject I think that's OK). I'm a fan of pop, I have all of Britney's albums and for the most part have enjoyed all of them. Madonna, however, is a superior artist in my opinion. Britney is ultra-produced and hasn't show much diversity...I wonder about her next album. The last was a little tiresome, kind of a re-tread of the previous three (there were only three songs that I liked). Madonna has shown musical growth in her subsequent albums.
None of this can be quantified in album sales, it's a matter of opinion, of what you like. I like them both, but as I mentioned Britney's act is getting a little dull.
Rogue588
09-23-04, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by iggystar
None of this can be quantified in album sales, it's a matter of opinion, of what you like. I like them both, but as I mentioned Britney's act is getting a little dull. Hence, her recent "marriage"...gotta find a way to keep her name in the media.
grrrah
09-23-04, 12:54 PM
I don't care how many albums she sells to 12 year old girls. Her 15 minutes were up a LOOOOOOONG time ago... even before I went to her concert in vegas :lol:
fallow
09-23-04, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Rogue588
Hence, her recent "marriage"...gotta find a way to keep her name in the media.
Hence, Madonna's recent name change and OMG GETTING ON STAGE WITH BRITNEY. This thread is like a Dave Eggers book.
Rogue588
09-25-04, 02:41 PM
My reply had nothing to do with your attempt to quantify "fame". It was a response to iggystar's "Brittney's act is getting a little dull" comment.
Apparently though, the public might be starting to agree [displays of maritial idiocy notwithstanding]. Her last album, "In the Zone", spent a total of....one....week at number 1. By the fourth week it was at number 10. After that, it went back into the top ten [at number 6] for one week before dropping out again and never charting higher than number 12 after that.
However, her album before that, "Britney", fared only slightly better. It was in the top 5 for six weeks and dropped out of the top ten after seven.
But, i'm guessing that's not quantifiable..
fallow
09-25-04, 03:38 PM
Pop music's strength is the single. It doesn't surprise me at all that her album wouldn't sell as well.
fallow
09-25-04, 03:39 PM
And what do her albums sales have to do with Madonna performing with her?
Cornholio
09-25-04, 09:46 PM
i like the song my prerogative
GuessWho
09-27-04, 08:48 PM
if ever there was a Best Of cd that needed to come with a bonus dvd of videos....
custom001
09-28-04, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by GuessWho
if ever there was a Best Of cd that needed to come with a bonus dvd of videos....
A Best Of DVD will be released seperately.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00064AM62/dvdtalk/qid=1096359263/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-7383984-5291201?v=glance&s=dvd
iggystar
09-29-04, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Rogue588
My reply had nothing to do with your attempt to quantify "fame". It was a response to iggystar's "Brittney's act is getting a little dull" comment.
Apparently though, the public might be starting to agree....
Right, no need for anyone to get upset, the numbers don't lie. I'm so out of the Britney demographic (33 yr. old, black, mother, who lives in Detroit), but I still really love her albums, but it's getting tired. I like her music, but her fame is fleeting and her last album didn't even match her other fun pop, albums.
And....I'm not going to buy her albums for her voice, or the production values, or the lyrics. And I'd rather not pay $70 to see someone lip synch - she's a album label creation, equivalent to music junk food. But, I like my junk food too. :) And I'm buy the greatest hits too.
GuessWho
09-29-04, 10:32 AM
3 pages... and not one pic of Britney (yet we get pics of Steve Perry)
Worst Spears thread ever :p
Gerry P.
09-30-04, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by Cornholio
i like the song my prerogative Yeah, it's great...when Bobby Brown sings it.
Aphex Twin
09-30-04, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by GuessWho
3 pages... and not one pic of Britney (yet we get pics of Steve Perry)
Worst Spears thread ever :p
Steve Perry is arguably prettier than Britney Speared.
Achtung
10-15-04, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by TeeSeeJay
The Gin Blossoms have had 2 greatest hits CDs after only 2 albums: New Miserable Experience in 1992, Congratulations I'm Sorry in 1996, Greatest Hits in 1999, and 20th Century Masters collection in 2003.
Actually, if I may take a moment out of my day to defend the Gin Blossoms (;)), they actually put out one previous album, Dusted, in 1989. Also IIRC there was a bit of a nasty breakup between the band and their record label, A&M, as the label was merged into the Universal fold, and they had no control over the release of what they felt was an unnecessary greatest hits album after their spring 1997 breakup. It was most likely Universal trying to make a buck off a band that didn't look like they were going to record any new music. I'm unsure what their current record label status is, though the band reunited to play some shows recently.
Obey The D
10-15-04, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by bigjim25
Added photoshopped cover pic! :D
fixed :)
bigjim25
10-20-04, 11:23 PM
Britney's new DVD, Greatest Hits: My Prerogative, hits stores on November 9!*
This groundbreaking DVD features all of Britney's smash videos, rarely-seen import clips and alternate versions! Not only are there 20 video hits presented in pristine digital video and audio, half of them are EXPANDED with never-before-seen footage. Check out multi-angle versions, multi-audio versions, hidden bonus features and interactive surprises! Travel through time with Britney's video timeline with next-level DVD functionality and spend hours exploring Britney's entire body of video masterpieces!
DVD Chapter List:
1. My Prerogative
2. Outrageous
3. Everytime
4. Toxic
5. Me Against The Music featuring Madonna
6. Boys (The Co-Ed Remix) featuring Pharrell Williams
7. I Love Rock 'n' Roll
8. I'm Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman
9. Overprotected - The Darkchild Remix
10. Overprotected (International Version)
11. Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know
12. I'm A Slave 4 U
13. Stronger
14. Lucky
15. Oops!...I Did It Again
16. Born To Make You Happy
17. From The Bottom Of My Broken Heart
18. (You Drive Me) Crazy (The Stop Remix!)
19. Sometimes
20. ...Baby One More Time
Source: www.britneyspears.com
IMRICKJAMES
10-21-04, 06:08 AM
she's so done and used up now
she's falling apart right before our eyes
She doesn't even like how she looks now, she had to use a picture from a few years ago and photoshop her head on it.
darqleo
10-21-04, 11:53 AM
They should have used the shot of her outside that gas station bathroom. I'd buy that for a $1.
RicP
10-25-04, 02:36 PM
Travel through time with Britney's video timeline with next-level DVD functionality and spend hours exploring Britney's entire body
They should have stopped there. :)
DRG
10-25-04, 04:27 PM
Just for comparison, the international editions appear to have different tracklistings.
From Play.com, a British site:
http://www.play247.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=CD&title=481222&p=34&g=48
Disc 1
1. My Prerogative
2. Toxic
3. ...Baby One More Time
4. I'm A Slave 4 U
5. Oops! I Did It Again
6. Everytime
7. Me Against The Music
8. Boys
9. (You Drive Me) Crazy (The Stop Remix)
10. Overprotected
11. Stronger
12. Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know
13. Outrageous
14. Born To Make You Happy
15. I Love Rock 'N' Roll
16. Sometimes
17. Lucky
18. I'm Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman
19. Do Somethin'
Disc 2
1. Breathe On Me (Jacques Lu Cont - Specific Mix TBD)
2. Everytime (Valentin Mixshow Edit)
3. Toxic (Armand Van Helden Club Mix)
4. Outrageous (Junkie XL Dancehall Mix)
5. Stronger (Miguel 'Migs' Vocal Mix)
6. I'm A Slave For You (Thunderpuss Club Mix)
This Japanese site has the same tarcklisting:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BVCQ-28008
DRG
10-25-04, 04:34 PM
To add, in addition to a slightly different order and the extra disc of remixes the differences between the two editions are this:
US version only:
(I've Just Begun) Having My Fun
International version only:
Don't Let Me Be the Last To Know
Born to Make You Happy
I Love Rock N'Roll
brianluvdvd
11-18-04, 01:53 PM
So...how has this sold?
I was just curious as I was hoping it would crash & burn upon release. I have not heard anyone talking about it or seen any reports in the media (which is astonishing whether it did well or not).
Vryce
11-18-04, 02:02 PM
While I won't be buying it.. but dammit if Toxic and Slave arn't catchy and really stick in your brain after hearing them on the radio.
:(
Oatsdad
01-02-05, 09:47 PM
Elton John had his 1st hits album out in 1974 and he arrived on the scene in 1972.
Wrong. Elton's first album came out in 1969 - he had SEVEN albums out by the time he put out his first greatest hits, and that doesn't include a live release AND a soundtrack! (Plus one of the seven was a double album.)
A comparison between Britney's recorded output and the Eagles' before both of their first GH albums is apt. Both released four albums and then a GH. For all those who think it's too soon for a Britney GH, the Eagles' SECOND GH encompassed two - count 'em, TWO! - albums!
(And for the record, Madonna had made five full-length albums before her first GH...)
Buy: