I never liked this movie and don't feel I need it as part of my DVD library. I plan on ebaying it to reduce the cost of my trilogy set. I'll probably ditch the documentary too (after I watch it).
habers
09-15-04, 02:52 PM
no
scott1598
09-15-04, 02:53 PM
That is quite simply dumb! <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif' alt='Spank' border=0></a>
steebo777
09-15-04, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by scott1598
That is quite simply dumb! <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif' alt='Spank' border=0></a>
Very true.
FreshOne
09-15-04, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by scott1598
That is quite simply dumb! <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif' alt='Spank' border=0></a> I must agree, I've never understood the ROTJ haters. Also, selling the doc, yeah....
Canadian Bacon
09-15-04, 03:07 PM
NO WAY!!!!!!!!
duy37
09-15-04, 03:08 PM
and who buy just that one?
Red Dog
09-15-04, 03:09 PM
No way.
El-Kabong
09-15-04, 03:15 PM
So, do you rip the last hundred or so pages out of the ends of your books too?
If this is a threadcrap, then so be it - but this is the stupidest idea I've ever seen, this is the lamest thread I've ever had this misfortune to read, and I feel stupider for just being here.
Josh H
09-15-04, 03:16 PM
Nope, it's my fave of the three.
Canadian Bacon
09-15-04, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
Nope, it's my fave of the three. :up:
slop101
09-15-04, 03:19 PM
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard - sure, Jedi's the weakest of the 3, but if you like the other two, you should still like Jedi, if not, then you're just being a contrary jerk.
Green Jello
09-15-04, 03:21 PM
Geez, if your that hard up for cash, I'll give you the amount you'll get for it on eBay just so you can keep it and not ruin the set. ;)
Husker
09-15-04, 03:22 PM
As Kramer would say, "That is whacky talk!"
Wannabe
09-15-04, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by El-Kabong
So, do you rip the last hundred or so pages out of the ends of your books too?
If this is a threadcrap, then so be it - but this is the stupidest idea I've ever seen, this is the lamest thread I've ever had this misfortune to read, and I feel stupider for just being here.
(The sequels) are a by-product, apologises Star Wars producer Gary Kurtz, of an original story conceived as a single film - not a six-film saga. "That touches on the convoluted story structure of the three films," he says. "I don't think you should try and investigate it too seriously."
Anyone hate Godfather III? It's the same thing.
munedaddy
09-15-04, 03:25 PM
If not for the Ewoks this would have been good too. I suppose it is still fine for a kid movie. There had to be a letdown after the brilliant Empire strikes back. Yeah I think the big teddy bears are the only problem I had with the third. You could get by with only having the first movie but there would be too many loose ends if you did not watch both 2 and 3. Favorite of the 3 though, you are definitely in the minority. Check the reviews.
TylerDurden_73
09-15-04, 03:30 PM
As much as I dislike Jedi, It's part of a trilogy. So I still watch it.
GuyverX
09-15-04, 03:35 PM
Dumbest....thread....ever. Okay, maybe not, but it's up there. -screwy-
planetaire
09-15-04, 03:37 PM
You do what you like. You think ROTJ sucks, sell it. A New Hope seems to be just fine on its own. But if you step into Empire territory, you'll need ROTJ to flesh the story out. Though all things considered, you probably should have kept the idea of breaking up your trilogy to yourself. :)
Green Jello
09-15-04, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by El-Kabong
I feel stupider for just being here.
I award you no points,...and may God have mercy on your soul.
Wannabe
09-15-04, 03:44 PM
ROTJ was a feel-good movie designed to sell toys to children. After seeing it, I felt disappointed and cheated. I'll listen to the ROTJ's commentaries and probably never watch the DVD again (until it shows up again in my Blu-Ray version of the trilogy in a couple more years).
sracer
09-15-04, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by planetaire
You do what you like. You think ROTJ sucks, sell it. A New Hope seems to be just fine on its own. But if you step into Empire territory, you'll need ROTJ to flesh the story out. Though all things considered, you probably should have kept the idea of breaking up your trilogy to yourself. :)
That's one reason why I'm not buying this set. (I picked up the 5-Star set, and sold ROTJ for the price I paid for the trilogy) The same reason why I haven't bought Indy or Back to the Future.
ROTJ is really a sad excuse for a film. I call it "Return of the Tedi" (as in Teddy bear). The freakin Empire taken out of the game by a bunch of animated teddy bears using rocks and sharp sticks.
Oh, "another death star"?! Yeah, THAT's original. :lol:
I don't expect the fanboys to understand that there are some of us (granted, a very small minority) that judge each film on their own merits.
If ROTJ were actually a cohesive and planned extension of the "A New Hope" story, then I would keep it for the sake of having the entire story. But it is obvious to me that ROTJ was an afterthought.
Kal-El
09-15-04, 03:45 PM
Not me. Jedi is still the quintessential Space Battle Movie of all time. I doubt even the rumored opening sequence of Episode III could top it. Add the Vader/Luke duel at the end, Original Jabba and Princess Leia in the slave girl bikini, it's hard not to see why some have it as their favorite. I feel bad for people who let the Ewoks ruin all that for them. :D
Green Jello
09-15-04, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by sracer
I don't expect the fanboys to understand that there are some of us (granted, a very small minority) that judge each film on their own merits.
Personally, I don't think it matters what the films are. They could be a set of Care Bears videos. In my opinion, if you need to go through the time and hastle to sell ROTJ on eBay just to get some money back, maybe you shouldn't be buying the $50 set in the first place.
Are you sure you're serious here? This isn't some kind of joke troll thread?
Toad
09-15-04, 03:56 PM
I am not planning on selling ROTJ and the thought would never cross my mind. It may not be a masterpiece (this is SW we're talking about, not Dumb and Dumber....), but it is the final chapter in a 6-part series that I want to retain.
Michael Corvin
09-15-04, 03:59 PM
ahh... it isn't quite dvdtalk without a pointless star wars thread every day.
Mike Lowrey
09-15-04, 04:01 PM
This topic came up in another forum I frequent. Not going to the lengths of selling ROTJ, but of the dislike for ROTJ.
I just don't get the hatred for this film. The film was genius. The only, and I do mean only, drawback to the film was the Ewoks. And it really wasn't that they were in there. It was because some of the Ewok sequences, namely the ones within the Ewok village went too long. The whole C3-PO story telling scene was totally unnecessary. I always felt that that was in there to inform viewers who had never seen ANH and TESB of some of the back story.
If the introduction of the Ewoks had been short, no journey to the village, and that they just showed up and the end during the battle, the whole hate-the-Ewoks-at-all-costs syndrome could have been avoided.
But back to Mr. Wannabe, just having the idea of selling your copy of ROTJ (and the bonus disc) is gotta be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Besides, how much do you think you can get for them. For one, you say that it's the least liked film of the batch, so judging by that, who'd buy it using your own opinion of the film? And then who'd buy the bonus disc alone? The only way you'd sell them would be if someone got bad disc of either, but then yet, they'd probably just do a return themselves.
Mike Lowrey
09-15-04, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Michael Corvin
ahh... it isn't quite dvdtalk without a pointless star wars thread every day.
Why yes, that's the only reason why I come here everyday. ;)
I don't know what I'm going to do after next week. What will there be to talk about?
Wannabe
09-15-04, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Green Jello
Personally, I don't think it matters what the films are. They could be a set of Care Bears videos.
Okay.
Originally posted by Green Jello
...if you need to go through the time and hastle to sell ROTJ on eBay just to get some money back, maybe you shouldn't be buying the $50 set in the first place.
If you like and own the dvd "Rocky," do you have to like and own Rocky 4 or Rocky 5 just because their packaged together? Or is it possible to judge each film by its own merits?
Sometimes it's hard for me to understand the inflexible minds of DVD completists.
Green Jello
09-15-04, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Wannabe
Sometimes it's hard for me to understand the inflexible minds of DVD completists.
I don't think you get my point. I'm wondering why you can't just leave the film on your shelf like it or not.
You're the one who wants to buy a DVD set and then spend your time and energy to break it up and sell part of it for minimal money,.... and I'm the one who's hard to understand?
Cartload
09-15-04, 04:10 PM
Return of the Jedi is the final chapter in a storyline that runs through all 3 (or you can argue 6) Star Wars movies. It would be like buying a book with the pages at the end being ripped out.
I would argue that it would make more sense to sell Empire and Jedi than to sell just Jedi because Star Wars was designed with the possibility of it being the only installment.
Jedi is clearly meant as a follow up movie that resolves the ending of Empire, which accounts for that Jabba sidestory which had little to do with the big picture (but it did give us the gift of Slave Leia, so I'm glad it's there).
Green Jello
09-15-04, 04:14 PM
This may be the fastest I've ever seen a thread go to 2 pages. Congrats!
bboisvert
09-15-04, 04:14 PM
You might as well hang onto it... eBay buyers sometimes do some wacky things, but I find it hard to believe that there will be too many buyers out there for JUST this one film.
Please feel free to post the link to your complete auction if I'm wrong, but I suspect you'll only get $5 or so for the title. Hardly worth the time to list it, fees, trip to Post Office, etc. Might as well just keep your box intact. And it'll be there if you get the urge to watch it again in a few years.
KnightLerxst
09-15-04, 04:17 PM
This whole thread is like Dante and Randals conversation in Clerks...
Jackskeleton
09-15-04, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by scott1598
That is quite simply dumb! <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif' alt='Spank' border=0></a>
I completely agree with this newbie.
Finally see the light and actually say something smart scott, it's a proud day for me. sniffle sniffle.
Terrell
09-15-04, 04:25 PM
I felt disappointed and cheated.
I felt cheated just by clicking on the link to this stupid thread.
ROTJ is really a sad excuse for a film.
WRONG! ROTJ is a very good film and a fine ending that wraps up the trilogy nicely. Many of the best moments in Star Wars come from ROTJ. This isn't even debateable in my opinion.
The freakin Empire taken out of the game by a bunch of animated teddy bears using rocks and sharp sticks.
If you're going to comment on a film, get your facts straight. The rebellion defeated to Empire in the space battle, with the help of Vader killing the Emperor. The ewoks just help Han, Chewy, Leia, and a dozen or so rebel troops hold off a legion of storm troopers so they could destroy the shield generator.
Then again, I guess you never heard of the vietnam war.
there are some of us (granted, a very small minority) that judge each film on their own merits.
There are also some of you that wouldn't know a good movie if it bit them in the ass. :)
Shannon Nutt
09-15-04, 04:27 PM
I think if ROTJ has a fault it's that it tried to wrap too many things up in one film. The opening stuff with Jabba is very good, Luke almost turning to the dark side is the movie's high-point, and while the Ewoks aren't my cup of tea, the speeder bike stuff is fun to watch.
Besides, Carrie Fisher in that slave girl outfit...why wouldn't you want to keep THAT?!
Brian Shannon
09-15-04, 04:28 PM
Anyone else planning on getting rid of their "Return of the Jedi" DVD?
No.
It is one third of the original trilogy.
auto
09-15-04, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by El-Kabong
So, do you rip the last hundred or so pages out of the ends of your books too?
If this is a threadcrap, then so be it - but this is the stupidest idea I've ever seen, this is the lamest thread I've ever had this misfortune to read, and I feel stupider for just being here.
That's pushing it. He doesn't like the flick. We may disagree but why should he own a movie he doesn't like? That seems silly to me.
I own X2 but no X-Men. Am I crazy?
Wannabe
09-15-04, 04:30 PM
I bought the Star Wars trilogy for $37. My guess is that I could get $10 to $15 each for ROTJ and the bonus disc. My guess is that I probably would never watch them again until the Blu-Ray version is released anyway. And I keep the first two films for less than $10 a piece.
This might sound like total sacrilege to some people, but I did the same thing with my Alien Quadrilogy set. I bought it at Costco for $42 and then sold the bonus disc on ebay for $25, Aliens 3 (disc 5) for $12, and then the packaging for $17. I kept the films I wanted in slim cases, and I made a dollar or two.
Regardless, it's not about the money. It's about not giving a toss about the weakest film of the three. If I'm not going to watch it, why should I own it?
KnightLerxst
09-15-04, 04:32 PM
http://www.isd.net/dwagner2/clerks2.gif
Randal Graves : Which did you like better? "Jedi" or "The Empire Strikes Back"?
Dante Hicks : "Empire".
Randal Graves : Blasphemy!
Dante Hicks : "Empire" had the better ending. I mean, Luke gets his hand cut off, finds out Vader's his father, Han gets frozen and taken away by Boba Fett. It ends on such a down note. I mean, that's what life is, a series of down endings. All "Jedi" had was a bunch of Muppets.
SuprVgeta
09-15-04, 04:34 PM
To put it simply, no, no I will not. The thought hadn't even crossed my mind.
darqleo
09-15-04, 04:37 PM
Ok, I guess I'll be the one to post this (although most have already seen it numerous time, this is for that one person that didn't!)
I'm sorry, but RETURN OF THE JEDI is worth owning for the simple reason that it has the battle of endor
http://petridish.net/pics/17225/deathstar.jpg
One of the best dog fight scenes ever shot, scored, etc.
Green Jello
09-15-04, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by darqleo
Ok, I guess I'll be the one to post this (although most have already seen it numerous time, this is for that one person that didn't!)
Originally posted by El-Kabong
this is the stupidest idea I've ever seen, this is the lamest thread I've ever had this misfortune to read, and I feel stupider for just being here.
:thumbsup:
PopcornTreeCt
09-15-04, 05:08 PM
Don't understand all the hating on ROTJ too. I mean its the one where Darth Vader throws the old guy into the pit!
Fok
09-15-04, 05:19 PM
You gotta be joking right?
JimRochester
09-15-04, 05:26 PM
I'll keep it just for Carrie Fischer and the slave girl scene
ruk
09-15-04, 05:27 PM
it's the best of the three to me anyways. no way, it's a keeper
darmok
09-15-04, 05:27 PM
critically, ROTJ was the weakest of the trilogy. i even remember not liking it as much as a kid when i saw it in the theaters (compared to empire or new hope), for some of the reasons stated in the link above. like many things vintage, as time passed, people tend to forgive the faults.
sracer
09-15-04, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
If you're going to comment on a film, get your facts straight. The rebellion defeated to Empire in the space battle, with the help of Vader killing the Emperor. The ewoks just help Han, Chewy, Leia, and a dozen or so rebel troops hold off a legion of storm troopers so they could destroy the shield generator.
Then again, I guess you never heard of the vietnam war.
Riiiight. Whether or not the shield generator was operational had no effect whatsoever on the outcome of that battle. They just destroyed it for the helluvit.
As for Viet Nam. The Vietnamese were well-equipped with firepower. They didn't fend off US troops with only rocks and sharp sticks. I highly recommend reading some history books that don't come with a box of crayons. :p
FunkDaddy J
09-15-04, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Green Jello
Wow, who ever wrote that, REALLY hates the film.
And sadly, I find myself agreeing with every one of 'em.
Kal-El
09-15-04, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Jason Bovberg
And sadly, I find myself agreeing with every one of 'em.
Meh. Read it a long time ago. A lot of it's seriously reaching just so he can fulfill the "50".
scott1598
09-15-04, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
I completely agree with this newbie.
Finally see the light and actually say something smart scott, it's a proud day for me. sniffle sniffle.
Well, it was a matter of going to the light or the dark side and since you were standing there in the light, Jack, I ran the hell the other way!http://www.therewindforums.co.uk/forums/images/smiles/new_cussing.gif
ThatGuamGuy
09-15-04, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Jason Bovberg
And sadly, I find myself agreeing with every one of 'em.
I can't take a list seriously which lists "bad effects" as a negative but cites "speeder chase" as a good thing. The speeder chase effects as are bad as or worse than anything else in the movie. It looks worse than the "driving car" effect they do on SNL.
Kal-El
09-15-04, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by ThatGuamGuy
I can't take a list seriously which lists "bad effects" as a negative but cites "speeder chase" as a good thing. The speeder chase effects as are bad as or worse than anything else in the movie. It looks worse than the "driving car" effect they do on SNL.
:up:
The same book actually also lists "10 reasons why Jedi Rocks" or something like that. One mention is that the Imperial March never sounded better during the Emperor's arrival on the Deathstar. Yet on this "list", music is one of the bad things.
TomOpus
09-15-04, 06:20 PM
No.No.No.
DRG
09-15-04, 06:26 PM
What I don't get is, if you react this strongly to Return of the Jedi, how can you stomach the special edition changes to Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back? I'm not bothered by any of it, mind you, but the RotJ hating mindset usually comes from purists who feel it was the beginning of Lucas' slide that eventually led to the Special Editions and the prequels. I would have thought in this mindset the Special Editions were a greater crime than RotJ (which I realize is also a special edition, but the "double whammy" aspect of this seems beside the point).
ckolchak
09-15-04, 06:27 PM
i'm still waiting for more people to get over their pre-adolescant nostalgia for this film and realize how poor it really is.
from conception to execution, i have nothing but disdain for this one on every level.
a very embarassing follow up to ESB.
luke should have been an introspective, brooding, emotional ghost for much of Jedi (because of everything that went down in ESB) and yet right off the bat, he swaggers around like a bad ass and cracks smart ass quips like he is trying to be a mini-Han Solo.
the only point in the movie you get an honest sense of what this character should be going thru, is in his talk with leia before he bounces off to tell his father how wonderful he is.
SeekOnce
09-15-04, 06:31 PM
Aside from being a completist, why would you keep trash that you don't want?
Go for it Wannabe.
Dead
09-15-04, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by GuyverX
Dumbest....thread....ever. Okay, maybe not, but it's up there. -screwy-
And yet you took the time to participate in it. The concept is simple, if you aren't going to participate in the discussion, then don't post in the thread.
Dead
09-15-04, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by El-Kabong
So, do you rip the last hundred or so pages out of the ends of your books too?
If this is a threadcrap, then so be it - but this is the stupidest idea I've ever seen, this is the lamest thread I've ever had this misfortune to read, and I feel stupider for just being here.
Originally posted by Michael Corvin
ahh... it isn't quite dvdtalk without a pointless star wars thread every day.
See my post above.
Originally posted by SeekOnce
Aside from being a completist, why would keep trash that you don't want?
Go for it Wannabe.
Also, there is no need for name calling.
Dead
09-15-04, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
I felt cheated just by clicking on the link to this stupid thread.
...
There are also some of you that wouldn't know a good movie if it bit them in the ass. :)
And finally, a combination of a threadcrap and an insult. Terrell, I'd suggest that you stick with comments like the middle portion of your post instead of the ones at the beginning and the end.
Green Jello
09-15-04, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Dead
Also, there is no need for name calling.
Uh,... Wannabe is actually his name.
munedaddy
09-15-04, 07:19 PM
He has got you there.
munedaddy
09-15-04, 07:20 PM
C'mon. Laugh with us.
shizawn
09-15-04, 07:23 PM
Nope, I'm keeping mine. I enjoyed RotJ.
Mike Lowrey
09-15-04, 07:25 PM
This may seem like sacriledge here, but actually I find that Empire is the weakest of the three films. Oh, I still like it, but I just didn't feel that it had enough action, as did Jedi. I think that what made Clones a much disliked film. The only good part was the final Batte of Genosis. The rest was dreck. Well, actually, I always viewed Clones as the prequal version of Empire. I mean you had your asteroid chase, your land battle, and a lightsaber duel. In Phantom, you had a space battle, a land battle, light saber duels, and a bunch of stuff on Tatooine along with the pod race which could double as the speeder-bike chase from Jedi. With Empire, you had a land battle, asteroid chase, and a light saber duel.
scarredgod
09-15-04, 07:26 PM
i will come to the defense of the original poster. if you dont like the film, get rid of the film. there is no point in him keeping a movie he doesnt want. the collector mentality of DVDs have gotten nuts. the guy doesnt like the movie, if he can get a few bucks for it then cool, break up that mint box set with the perfect corners and just keep what you want.
as for people getting mad about another worthless star wars post, they all become pretty worthless because fanboys dont like to be told their beloved sucks, and lucas bashers dont like fanboys. its like a michael moore thread, it always goes to the same place and becomes worthless.
mjlukich
09-15-04, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Green Jello
Uh,... Wannabe is actually his name.
Darn, beat me to it...ROTFLOL
Fok
09-15-04, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
This may seem like sacriledge here, but actually I find that Empire is the weakest of the three films. Oh, I still like it, but I just didn't feel that it had enough action, as did Jedi. I think that what made Clones a much disliked film. The only good part was the final Batte of Genosis. The rest was dreck. Well, actually, I always viewed Clones as the prequal version of Empire. I mean you had your asteroid chase, your land battle, and a lightsaber duel. In Phantom, you had a space battle, a land battle, light saber duels, and a bunch of stuff on Tatooine along with the pod race which could double as the speeder-bike chase from Jedi.
It would be interesting to see how all 6 films are viewed in 20 years. Maybe the first 3 (ep1-3)will become classics.
Dazed
09-15-04, 07:34 PM
I liked Jedi so no I wont.
Sunday Morning
09-15-04, 07:36 PM
I'm going to buy the box set so I can throw it in the trash.
Or better yet, and more cost effective is to wait until I get the original versions. Or, the most likely to happen, to wait forever until the original versions come out.
C.H.U.D.
09-15-04, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Dead
Also, there is no need for name calling.
Aren't mods actually supposed to pay attention to the threads? :D
SideShow
09-15-04, 07:47 PM
This is just more prejudice against the poor little technology challenged Ewoks, and that's just sad. They helped out against the storm troopers out of the goodness of their furry little hearts, and gave Warwick Davis his fabulous screen debut. Give 'em some props man, and keep the disc!
Johnny Zhivago
09-15-04, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by scarredgod
i will come to the defense of the original poster. if you dont like the film, get rid of the film. there is no point in him keeping a movie he doesnt want. the collector mentality of DVDs have gotten nuts. the guy doesnt like the movie, if he can get a few bucks for it then cool, break up that mint box set with the perfect corners and just keep what you want.
as for people getting mad about another worthless star wars post, they all become pretty worthless because fanboys dont like to be told their beloved sucks, and lucas bashers dont like fanboys. its like a michael moore thread, it always goes to the same place and becomes worthless.
Agreed and agreed. It's your DVD set, do whatever you want to with it... Why people choose to collect shit that they don't like is beyond me. But, whatever makes each individual happy, that's all that matters.
Myself, no interest in Star Wars at all... And I'm not Lucas bashing here, the films no longer interest me - Also, yup, I do read the SW threads from time to time, kinda like enjoying a nice train wreck. So no... I won't need to get rid of ROTJ. :p
Mountain Biker
09-15-04, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Wannabe
I never liked this movie and don't feel I need it as part of my DVD library. I plan on ebaying it to reduce the cost of my trilogy set. I'll probably ditch the documentary too (after I watch it).
Well good for you. :rolleyes:
I won't be doing any such thing.
Bluebomber
09-15-04, 08:22 PM
Nope keeping it with the others
Big Worms
09-15-04, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by scott1598
That is quite simply dumb! <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif' alt='Spank' border=0></a>
Exactly! No way I am getting rid of it.
Lokimok
09-15-04, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by El-Kabong
So, do you rip the last hundred or so pages out of the ends of your books too?
If this is a threadcrap, then so be it - but this is the stupidest idea I've ever seen, this is the lamest thread I've ever had this misfortune to read, and I feel stupider for just being here.
Self-realization can come at unexpected times.
You know what's wrong with this place? DVDTalkers don't exaggerate enough when they reply to posts.
I haven't even decided if I'm buying the set yet, but if I do, I will keep all the discs. Even though with each "upgrade" it gets harder & harder to sit through the entire movie, there are still enough bits I like that I would keep it. As was mentioned, the end space battle is pretty exciting & cool. I much prefer the Empire saber duel, but the Jedi one certainly has moments. I find Vader's transformation moving. I don't mind the Ewoks so much. The bad miming at Jabba's palace is much harder to take. Though surrounded by mostly lame creatures, Jabba is a great character & incredible puppetry. I like the Yoda scene. For some reason I like Akbar...
Mike Lowrey
09-15-04, 09:04 PM
Hell, forget all this crap. I just can't wait to see this trilogy in its remastered and restored form.
Bru
09-15-04, 09:20 PM
personally I like all 3 equally. I dont see one as a stand out of the three. unless I picked A New Hope because it was the first and started it all.
this is a dumb thread.
Kerborus
09-15-04, 10:38 PM
Bru - I agree.
ROTJ has been copied and mimicked by dozens of other films trying to be like it. It's hard to top the emotion when Vader and Luke fight, and the emporer is like the highlight of the movie to me! Ewoks were the comedy relief and I have always enjoyed the Endor battle.
Great flick!
Dabaomb
09-15-04, 10:54 PM
Not in a million years.
I actually liked this one cuz I liked the Ewoks and the final light sabre battle.
Plus, I'm a completionist so getting rid of this is out of the question.
bboisvert
09-15-04, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Wannabe
I bought the Star Wars trilogy for $37. My guess is that I could get $10 to $15 each for ROTJ and the bonus disc.
Who are these theoretical people that'll pay you $10-15 for these discs?
As you said, you can get the whole set of 4 discs for under $40. Why would someone pay you $15 for single discs in the set? Think about it... that would mean that there's someone out there who (a) wants the bonus disc but (b) doesn't want the movies themselves. Does that make any sense?
Or someone who wants to buy RotJ for $15, but has no interest in the other films? Again, I think the audience for that is pretty limited.
[That being said, I certainly understand your desire to not keep discs that you don't enjoy. If you honestly won't watch them again, definitely toss 'em... I just don't see you being able to pull in $20-30 for those 2 discs. There's no customer base for them.]
JoeyOhhhh
09-15-04, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by bboisvert
Who are these theoretical people that'll pay you $10-15 for these discs?
As you said, you can get the whole set of 4 discs for under $40. Why would someone pay you $15 for single discs in the set? Think about it... that would mean that there's someone out there who (a) wants the bonus disc but (b) doesn't want the movies themselves. Does that make any sense?
I can see making money off of the bonus disc (those people who are standing their ground by not purchasing the set, and want the originals.)
Derrich
09-15-04, 11:13 PM
Not only am I selling ROTJ, I'm also selling the 3rd disc in the Season 4 Stargate SG-1 box set , I'm ditching special features disc from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, and I'm putting an ad in the classifieds for the B side of my Ford Fairlane flipper(full screen, bah!).
D
Jackskeleton
09-15-04, 11:19 PM
I really don't see the logic in it. Your box set will be one slot empty. just baffles the mind.
basaro
09-15-04, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Derrich
Not only am I selling ROTJ, I'm also selling the 3rd disc in the Season 4 Stargate SG-1 box set , I'm ditching special features disc from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, and I'm putting an ad in the classifieds for the B side of my Ford Fairlane flipper(full screen, bah!).
D
rotfl Good one!
Seriously though, the OP is getting a lot of crap for this post. While I wouldn't have started a thread for it, I will stick up for his decision. If he doesn't want Jedi, let him sell it! I don't think he'll get $15, but he might - there are a lot of suckers buying stuff on ebay. ;)
Hey, I don't like Jedi either (well, sometimes I find myself watching the first half, but then I shut it off. I just don't like the 2nd half of the movie, so shoot me.), and if the trilogy was available separately, I wouldn't buy it. Seriously! Just ANH and ESB for me.
I'm probably one of the few people not buying the boxset anyway, so I don't care either way. I can't even believe I posted in this thread. I try not to get sucked into these things. Geez. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Derrich
Not only am I selling ROTJ, I'm also selling the 3rd disc in the Season 4 Stargate SG-1 box set , I'm ditching special features disc from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, and I'm putting an ad in the classifieds for the B side of my Ford Fairlane flipper(full screen, bah!).
D
:lol:
SFranke
09-16-04, 12:43 AM
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Oatsdad
09-16-04, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by duy37
and who buy just that one?
Oh, he'll get plenty of takers - it won't be tough to unload any of the discs on its own. It sounds weird, but I'm sure there are lots of folks who only like "Jedi"...
Wannabe
09-16-04, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by Green Jello
Geez, if your that hard up for cash, I'll give you the amount you'll get for it on eBay just so you can keep it and not ruin the set. ;)
Thanks a lot! Please send it to my Paypal account..I think $20 should cover it.
costanza
09-16-04, 01:08 AM
i just got rid of my five star set last week
Numanoid
09-16-04, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Oatsdad
Oh, he'll get plenty of takers - it won't be tough to unload any of the discs on its own. It sounds weird, but I'm sure there are lots of folks who only like "Jedi"... Or people who happen to damage or lose that particular disc. I'm sure there will be plenty of takers.
Originally posted by El-Kabong
So, do you rip the last hundred or so pages out of the ends of your books too?
Sorry, that's incredibly faulty logic. When you watch Episode I do you then immediately watch II? When you watch ANH, will you then immediately watch Empire and Jedi to see what happens? Obviously not. OP has seen Jedi, and he doesn't want to see it again. He knows what happens, so what will be gained by keeping it on the shelf?
eau
09-16-04, 02:31 AM
My trilogy stays together!
Chad
09-16-04, 03:20 AM
No! I likes my Muppets damnit!
the narrator
09-16-04, 03:32 AM
I would never even think about it
GMLSKIS
09-16-04, 03:33 AM
STUPID STUPID STUPID !!!!
Oh yeah did I say this was stupid?
jough
09-16-04, 04:17 AM
Well, I'm going to keep mine and will watch it repeatedly (although not as much as ANH or ESB) but if you want to sell yours, give it away, run it through the shredder, turn it sideways and stick it up your ass, use it as a frisbee, etc, hey, more power to you.
basaro
09-16-04, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by evitagen
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
"I simple no would've been just fine." ;)
DouglasRobert
09-16-04, 09:50 AM
Absolutely, positively NOT!!!.
While ROTJ may be the weakest of the Original Trilogy it is still better than Phantom Menace (IMO).
And even though I don't like Phantom Menace I still own it and will continue to do so.
And isn't there a slight chance that in the future, Lucas and Fox will release the individual films seperately? Fox did it the the Alien series, so they may do it with Star Wars as well. So, just maybe, it might be better to wait and not waste money or the time in selling unwanted discs now, but that's assuming that that will happen.
Just my 2 cents.
DJariya
09-16-04, 10:04 AM
What a dumbass!!
I can't believe the idiot who started this stupid ass thread would rather have only 2 movies....and a big empty space in his DVD box set case.
If your going to buy this set, keep all 3 movies and the bonus features disc. (At least that's what I would do and any person with common sense who collects and watches movies)
rexinnih
09-16-04, 10:10 AM
While it's my least favorite of the three, I'll still keep it.
auto
09-16-04, 10:47 AM
I think he could get about $12-15 for ROTJ and $8-10 for the bonus disc. As somebody else noted, many who are against the new versions might want to buy the bonus disc. Also, many in this thread alone are stating that ROTJ is their favorite movie in the trilogy. I bet quite a few people out there would be into just buying ROTJ sepesrately. As for the box, hell, sell that too. Im thinking $5 at least.
So, lets say $12 (ROTJ) + $8 (Bonus) + $5 (box) = $25
$40 (box set) - $25 (ebay money) = $15
$15 for ANH & ESB = $7.50 each NOT BAD!!!
Seems like a good idea to me.
(slowly sneaking out he back door of this thread before I get beat up)
Iron_Giant
09-16-04, 10:57 AM
I loved the movie and will not sell it.
Even if I did not love it, I would not sell it - it completes the 6 movie set.
Now, I could sell Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, but that is another story.
Iron_Giant
09-16-04, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by bboisvert
Who are these theoretical people that'll pay you $10-15 for these discs?
As you said, you can get the whole set of 4 discs for under $40. Why would someone pay you $15 for single discs in the set? Think about it... that would mean that there's someone out there who (a) wants the bonus disc but (b) doesn't want the movies themselves. Does that make any sense?
Or someone who wants to buy RotJ for $15, but has no interest in the other films? Again, I think the audience for that is pretty limited.
[That being said, I certainly understand your desire to not keep discs that you don't enjoy. If you honestly won't watch them again, definitely toss 'em... I just don't see you being able to pull in $20-30 for those 2 discs. There's no customer base for them.]
You took the words right out of my mind. But there may be one crazy person out that would pay that much for the movie or maybe will scratch their disk.
GuessWho
09-16-04, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Iron_Giant
I could sell Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, but that is another story. That's fine. It's a stand-alone movie and you can watch the other 2 without any problems.
Getting rid of ROTJ ends your viewing experience on a cliffhanger.
SleepyW
09-16-04, 11:29 AM
I'm this has been brought up already, but I'm not reading through 4 pages of people saying what a pointless thread this is (which it is, but I digress...).
The 3 films are a SERIES...not just random movies like Rocky 4 or Rocky 5. Jedi is the final chapter of the story. Would you own the first to LOTR films and not the third because you disliked it?
That's just stupid.
By the way, I just finished this book, but I didn't like the last 12 chapters so I'm removing them from the book and selling them...let me know if you're interested.
Green Jello
09-16-04, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Wannabe
I bought the Star Wars trilogy for $37. My guess is that I could get $10 to $15 each for ROTJ and the bonus disc. My guess is that I probably would never watch them again until the Blu-Ray version is released anyway. And I keep the first two films for less than $10 a piece.
This might sound like total sacrilege to some people, but I did the same thing with my Alien Quadrilogy set. I bought it at Costco for $42 and then sold the bonus disc on ebay for $25, Aliens 3 (disc 5) for $12, and then the packaging for $17. I kept the films I wanted in slim cases, and I made a dollar or two.
Regardless, it's not about the money. It's about not giving a toss about the weakest film of the three. If I'm not going to watch it, why should I own it?
If it's this easy, why don't you go into business buying the sets and selling them for parts? Sounds like you could make descent money at it.
Wannabe
09-16-04, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by SleepyW
The 3 films are a SERIES...not just random movies like Rocky 4 or Rocky 5. Jedi is the final chapter of the story. Would you own the first to LOTR films and not the third because you disliked it?
That's just stupid.
By the way, I just finished this book, but I didn't like the last 12 chapters so I'm removing them from the book and selling them...let me know if you're interested.
Guess what? I found out how this story ends over 20 years ago (albeit, the current version has the wonderful addition of Hayden Christiansen and the subtraction of Sebastian Shaw's eyebrows). I don't need ROTJ to BABYSIT my ANH and ESB DVDs. I'm a film fan, not a fanboy.
Green Jello
09-16-04, 01:34 PM
Anyone else planning on getting rid of their left kidney?
I never liked this organ and don't feel I need it as part of my urinary system. I plan on ebaying it to reduce the cost of my dialysis. I'll probably ditch the spleen too (after I wash it).
;)
MJKTool
09-16-04, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by GuyverX
Dumbest....thread....ever. Okay, maybe not, but it's up there. -screwy-
Visit the mature forum for the dumbest thread of all time.
Breakfast with Girls
09-16-04, 02:05 PM
I'll buy just the bonus disc. E-mail me.
Michael Corvin
09-16-04, 02:18 PM
the only market I see for this is when video stores start selling off their rental copies. You KNOW they will sell them seperate. And somebody will find ANH and ESB and need ROTJ.
But if that is even true, why not just wait until this happens and buy them individually then? Why go through with the hassle now?
darkside
09-16-04, 02:21 PM
I wouldn't even sell Godfather 3 from that boxset. Selling ROTJ is unthinkable.
Kal-El
09-16-04, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Michael Corvin
But if that is even true, why not just wait until this happens and buy them individually then? Why go through with the hassle now?
So you can brag about how you stuck it to Luca$ on an internet messageboard? ;)
jough
09-16-04, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Kal-El
So you can brag about how you stuck it to Luca$ on an internet messageboard? ;)
YEAH, I bought your product and re-sold part of it for much less than I paid for it! Take THAT, Lucas!
:hscratch:?
meharry2003
09-16-04, 03:36 PM
I am not a huge fan of Return of the Jedi, but I wouldn't ever get rid of it. It just feels unsolved when I finish watching Empire, I need to see Jedi afterwards otherwise I feel cheated.
Michael Corvin
09-16-04, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Kal-El
So you can brag about how you stuck it to Luca$ on an internet messageboard? ;)
Actually sticking it to the man would be not to buy it, and then buy it used. That is one sale he wouldn't be getting the first week of release.
GuyverX
09-16-04, 05:53 PM
Wait, how the heck are you going to sell just one disc out of the set? I guess there are some stupid people on eBay...and I suppose there's at least one weirdo in this world that only likes RotJ and not the other two in the trilogy. Hm...
Bugg
09-16-04, 05:55 PM
The funny thing is, that if one where inclined to waste their time doing so, they could probably turn a profit by buying a few sets and then selling them off as seperates on e-bay.
Bugg
09-16-04, 06:00 PM
Hell, the more I think of it, I bet there are dopes on e-bay that might buy all four discs separately in the same day.
Dead
09-16-04, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Green Jello
Uh,... Wannabe is actually his name.
Crap... I hope Geoff doesn't dock my salary for not noticing that before commenting! Sorry! :lol:
Dead
09-16-04, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by DJariya
What a dumbass!!
I can't believe the idiot who started this stupid ass thread would rather have only 2 movies....and a big empty space in his DVD box set case.
...
OTOH, I'm pretty sure this one qualifies as namecalling.
DJariya, personal attacks are against the forum rules. Future instances like this may result in administrative action against your account.
Toad
09-16-04, 07:44 PM
Dead, have you seen my proposal in Forum Feedback/Suggestions re: a sub-forum for the Star Wars DVD release?
I'm concerned that no one has taken the time to respond.
Wannabe
09-18-04, 12:20 AM
Hey, look: Return of Jedi on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=6324058442). No, it's not my auction...I haven't even received my set.
mikewendt
09-18-04, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Wannabe
I never liked this movie and don't feel I need it as part of my DVD library. I plan on ebaying it to reduce the cost of my trilogy set. I'll probably ditch the documentary too (after I watch it).
Wow... First of all my answer's, F//K NO!
Second, do you really need the couple bucks that bad that you'd break up one of the greatest film series ever created??? Wow...
Originally posted by Wannabe
Hey, look: Return of Jedi on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=6324058442). No, it's not my auction...I haven't even received my set.
Hey take a closer look damn near every one of his auctions is Star Wars... He's got a bunch of Trilogy discs...
diespine
09-18-04, 02:20 AM
more power to you wannabe
i plan on ebaying esb myself, which i thought totally sucked, i can't stand movies that end unresolved, and all that crying about who's your daddy, no death star in esb that gets blown up, come on why would you not put a death star getting blown up in this one when you had it in the other two movies, okay i am done
lordzeppelin
09-18-04, 11:31 AM
lame...just lame...
I personally will be selling my disc because I'm protesting the deaths of all the innocent contractors that were killed when the unfinished death star was blown to bits. These contractors were not involved in the intergalactic war, they were just building something for a paycheck. Hell, maybe they hated palpatine's crap, but liked his cash...
Goldblum
09-18-04, 12:47 PM
I would never do such a thing. However, I don't understand the hate. Let the dude do what he wants. I do feel that Jedi was the weakest, and if he doesn't want it, then he doesn't want it. I bought Godfather 1 and 2 without keeping the third.
jough
09-18-04, 03:26 PM
You know, any contractor willing to work on that Death Star knew the risks. If they were killed, it was their own fault. A roofer listens to his heart, not his wallet.
Ojam
09-18-04, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Wannabe
Hey, look: Return of Jedi on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=6324058442). No, it's not my auction...I haven't even received my set.
He has the other 3 discs up too, and Jedi is currently the lowest of the 3.
duff beer
09-19-04, 02:09 AM
Holy crap, all three movies are 5 stars, an entire trilogy, 5 stars! A FIVE STAR TRILOGY. RoTJ=The medieval majesty and subterranean gloom of dungeons as in Jabba's Palace, and the end-all TRI-battle at the end is the best. It has a taste for whichever battle you prefer, the one on one duel, the forest ground battle with each sides weapons of war, or the space battle, best ever shown!
emhello
09-19-04, 04:02 AM
I'm planning on getting rid of The Empire Strikes Back and keeping the other two.
darkside
09-19-04, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by emhello
I'm planning on getting rid of The Empire Strikes Back and keeping the other two.
I've got another friend doing this exact same thing. I'm like the only person I know that picks this one as their favorite.
El-Kabong
09-20-04, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by Numanoid
Sorry, that's incredibly faulty logic. When you watch Episode I do you then immediately watch II? When you watch ANH, will you then immediately watch Empire and Jedi to see what happens? Obviously not.
Um. . . . yes, actually I do. I fully intend on watching 1-2 and 4-6 come this tuesday.
And it's dead on perfect logic. The saga is not 3 unconnected movies like the Indy trio or the the James Bond films. It's a complete story end to end. Start, middle and conclusion. It's very much like ripping the last 10 pages from a book.
but hey - it aint my discs, so I dont give a rats ass. I just think it's the biggest dumbest stupid-ass idea in the long history of stupid-ass ideas. Even if it's a weak movie (which it aint), it's still got the best space combat scene ever committed to film.
djones6746
09-20-04, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by scott1598
That is quite simply dumb! <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif' alt='Spank' border=0></a>
I agree....
Toad
09-20-04, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by diespine
more power to you wannabe
i plan on ebaying esb myself, which i thought totally sucked, i can't stand movies that end unresolved, and all that crying about who's your daddy, no death star in esb that gets blown up, come on why would you not put a death star getting blown up in this one when you had it in the other two movies, okay i am done
This post receives my vote for "least coherent" post in this thread.
Sell Empire? :lol:
Did you not understand it?
Wannabe
09-20-04, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by El-Kabong
it aint my discs, so I dont give a rats ass.
Um. . . . yes, actually you do. Otherwise you would't be spending your time crafting such intelligent responses at 1:30 in the morning.Originally posted by El-Kabong
The saga is not 3 unconnected movies like the Indy trio or the the James Bond films. It's a complete story end to end. Start, middle and conclusion. It's very much like ripping the last 10 pages from a book.
Actually, the first film, Star Wars, is a complete film that does not require a prequel or a sequel to enjoy or understand.
Return of the Jedi, however, is a different case. All of the joy and wonderment of the first film is gone. In its place is bad dialogue, a keyboard-playing blue-elephantine-muppet, cuddly Ewoks for the five-and-under crowd, and a trite feel-good ending that left anybody with half of a brain feeling ripped off.
The biggest preconception about this so-called saga is that it should be viewed in order from Episodes 1-6. Too bad that all of the surprises revealed in 4-6 will be already be known to the audience, lessening the experience for anyone who is new to the films.
And did we even need Episodes 1 and 2? Those two films were completely unnecessary, unless you really give a crap about Gungans, Intergalactic Trade, and the Royal Palace of Naboo. George could have kept the story tighter and more interesting by skipping right to Episode 3 and therefore sparing us of Jar-Jar and lines of dialogue like "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth."
Originally posted by El-Kabong
Even if it's a weak movie (which it aint), it's still got the best space combat scene ever committed to film.
Uh, how many times do you need to see X-wings blow up a Death Star? That scene was weak, unimaginitive, and repetitive. Sort of like your comments - a weaker rehash of comments previously stated in this thread.
Jackskeleton
09-20-04, 07:43 AM
While ANH is pretty stand alone, ESB really does need some sort of resolution. I can't justify selling the second part from what ESB left off at no matter how much you try to rationalize it.
All of the joy and wonderment of the first film is gone. In its place is bad dialogue,
If you hadn't noticed, all three films had bad dialogue. These weren't greatly written scripts. "I used to shoot wamp rats with my t-17 back home" and blue milk isn't much above a B-movie if you ask me.
The prequels have nothing to do with the trilogy we are talking about right here and now. Regardless of how crappy they were you do not need to them to get the resolution that occurs after ESB. So just because of that reason alone it's pretty important to keep ROTJ.
either that, or you could resolve your issues with lucas the SPACED way...
I don't think Wannabe will have any trouble at all selling these. I don't plan on buying the set, but I will obtain a copy of the Bonus Disc.
duff beer
09-20-04, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Wannabe
Return of the Jedi, however, is a different case. All of the joy and wonderment of the first film is gone. In its place is bad dialogue, a keyboard-playing blue-elephantine-muppet, cuddly Ewoks for the five-and-under crowd, and a trite feel-good ending that left anybody with half of a brain feeling ripped off.
What the f$% are you talking about? It was the ending, it had to have a feel-good ending, this isn't exactly a sad place when you've finally destroyed the empire. I know you like dark shit more but there has to be some light.
tdoane78
09-20-04, 06:42 PM
No, what is the point of buying something to just sell it? Ask a stupid question, get a similar answer.
-Tim
Wannabe
09-20-04, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by tdoane78
No, what is the point of buying something to just sell it? Ask a stupid question, get a similar answer.
-Tim
Because you can't buy them as individual films, genius.
Terrell
09-20-04, 07:20 PM
"I used to shoot wamp rats with my t-17 back home" and blue milk isn't much above a B-movie if you ask me.
As far as I'm concerned, that's not bad dialogue. The problem is nobody has ever heard any character in a film talk about shooting wamp rats, nor have they heard many of the things that were in Star Wars. So because of that, they equate it with bad. There is some less than stellar occasionally, but I don't think much of it is bad dialogue. It was just strange words that had never been seen before.
Regardless of how crappy they were you do not need to them to get the resolution that occurs after ESB.
There is nothing crappy about the original trilogy, nothing at all. End of story! :)
All of the joy and wonderment of the first film is gone. In its place is bad dialogue, a keyboard-playing blue-elephantine-muppet, cuddly Ewoks for the five-and-under crowd, and a trite feel-good ending that left anybody with half of a brain feeling ripped off.
WRONG!
Too bad that all of the surprises revealed in 4-6 will be already be known to the audience, lessening the experience for anyone who is new to the films.
WRONG!
That scene was weak, unimaginitive, and repetitive. Sort of like your comments - a weaker rehash of comments previously stated in this thread.
WRONG!
MJKTool
09-20-04, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Wannabe
Because you can't buy them as individual films, genius.
Sure you can....on ebay!
Get Me Coffee
09-20-04, 08:45 PM
Who's going to just buy ROTJ?
Sonic
09-20-04, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by sracer
ROTJ is really a sad excuse for a film. I call it "Return of the Tedi" (as in Teddy bear). The freakin Empire taken out of the game by a bunch of animated teddy bears using rocks and sharp sticks.
rotfl
-ant
costanza187
09-21-04, 07:27 AM
Why would anybody break up a set??
tdoane78
09-21-04, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Wannabe
Because you can't buy them as individual films, genius.
May I suggest the ebay route that you have posted links for. Thanks for the compliment as well (sarcasm intended).
-Tim
tdoane78
09-21-04, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by Get Me Coffee
Who's going to just buy ROTJ?
Perhaps the person who will be buying the movie from Wannabe?
-Tim
kajs
09-22-04, 11:51 PM
Yeah, I'm doing it, I'm selling my copy of ANH on Ebay (available now!). There are too many audio and video screwups in this release for me. The music issues, the dialogue quality changing, and the abundance of green in the transfer that really bothers me. I just kept getting more and more pissed off as I was watching it. Why were the Indy DVDs so perfect and these are crap(ANH at least, I haven't watched the others)?
wlj
09-23-04, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by scott1598
That is quite simply dumb! <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif' alt='Spank' border=0></a>
Yup...don't agree with you there....ROJ is fantastic and it the final part of the story.
wlj
Green Jello
09-24-04, 05:38 PM
Well Wannabe,
Are you going to post a link to your eBay auction.......or was this all just forum troll bullshit?
Wannabe
09-26-04, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by Green Jello
Well Wannabe,
Are you going to post a link to your eBay auction.......or was this all just forum troll bullshit?
First of all, I didn't even receive the set from Amazon until yesterday. Second, I plan on listening to the commentary before I get rid of it. Third, since when the fuck am I on your schedule? I'll sell it when I choose to. And fourth, aren't you the same bigmouth that said you'd pay me not to break up my set? I'm still waiting for your payment.
Originally posted by Green Jello
Geez, if your that hard up for cash, I'll give you the amount you'll get for it on eBay just so you can keep it and not ruin the set. ;)
Green Jello
09-27-04, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Wannabe
And fourth, aren't you the same bigmouth that said you'd pay me not to break up my set? I'm still waiting for your payment.
I did say that. And if I ever thought you were serious with this thread, I would send you the money.
It's called sarcasm and humor kid. I'd think that you'd be very familliar with it since you hang around this place.
Fok
09-27-04, 03:20 PM
:lol:
Wannabe
09-27-04, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Green Jello
Well Wannabe,
Are you going to post a link to your eBay auction.......or was this all just forum troll bullshit?
You've mastered the sarcasm part. I thiink you need to work on your humor skills.
The point of the thread wasn't to see how much mad money I'd make by selling a single DVD, but rather whether anybody else, like myself, hates the movie and isn't interested in owning it. To say the question is "forum troll bullshit" is a demonstration of your lack of understanding the question.
Green Jello
09-27-04, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Wannabe
You've mastered the sarcasm part. I thiink you need to work on your humor skills.
The point of the thread wasn't to see how much mad money I'd make by selling a single DVD, but rather whether anybody else, like myself, hates the movie and isn't interested in owning it. To say the question is "forum troll bullshit" is a demonstration of your lack of understanding the question.
Believe me, I understand the question. The issue is, I (and obviously many other people in here) don't believe that you ever intended to do it.
jough
11-15-04, 03:34 PM
So how much did you get for it, Wannabe?
Green Jello
11-15-04, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by jough
So how much did you get for it, Wannabe?
Look Wannabe !!!!
It wasn't me this time!
auto
11-15-04, 04:45 PM
Someone please archive this nonsense. It's very entertaining.
Green Jello
11-15-04, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by jay77
Someone please archive this nonsense. It's very entertaining.
:up: :up:
Kal-El
11-15-04, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by jay77
Someone please delete this nonsense. It's not very entertaining.
Fixed.
chente
11-15-04, 05:16 PM
Hey, if you don't like the film go for it. No sense keeping something you don't enjoy. Maybe the commentary will be good and you'll decide to keep it. Who knows?
Kal-El
11-15-04, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by chente
Hey, if you don't like the film don't go for it. No sense buying something you don't enjoy.
Fixed again. :D
Wannabe
05-12-06, 02:47 AM
I just remembered this thread. I ended up selling my whole box set - then I re-purchased Star Wars and Empire used from Hollywood video for $8 a piece.
Lt Ripley
05-12-06, 04:42 AM
That's wonderful!
Ralph Jenkins
05-12-06, 07:03 AM
I could see selling RotJ, but only to replace it with the original version. My preference will probably be for the original version once that's released. I liked the "Yub-Yub" song and I didn't care for the insertion of Hayden on the 2004 DVD.
Paul Arnette
05-12-06, 09:40 AM
Wow. You guys are really laying in hard on this guy. I'll tell you something, I like this forum and all, but the sheer amount of group-think and DVD-completists, OCD-types here astounds me at times. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've heard this: "I guess I'll buy DVD X, even though I really didn't like it that much". Why?
So, this guys doesn't like ROTJ and wants to sell it, big deal. WTF is it to you, other than the question he asked, which was : "Is anyone else here doing the same thing"? Well, obviously it would appear that the overwhelming majority of you aren't, but how about some tact in your responses. Jesus.
I personally agree with those who say it would make more sense for him to sell ESB and ROTJ, rather than ROTJ by itself, but its his choice. Honestly, at this point, I'm entertaining that very idea myself.
I am curious as to what you got for these two discs if you did sell them, Wannabe?
coli
05-12-06, 09:52 AM
ROTJ was always inferior to SW & ESB, but it was still enjoyable enough to bring finality to the OT, so I will buy all three OT movies.
After watching TPM & AOTC, I began to rethink my stance on ROTJ, and maybe I was too hard on it, as now I understood that those two are the real awful SW movies, not ROTJ as I used to say in the mid 80's.
I can see how fans would just want SW & ESB, cause they are utter classics to their genre, maybe even #1 & #2 of all-time in that respect. Those movies are that good, and ROTJ isn't, plain & simple. But I think with the addition of Hayden in the SE, and the dumb new Jabbas Palace song, and the ending that focuses more on the worlds than Luke, Leia, and Han, maybe Lucas has brought me back to loving ROTJ alittle bit more after seeing the dreck in the SE. He turned me off so much with every addition he made in the SE, I love the O-OT even more now. How about that for irony.
Sebastian Shaw, welcome back to a galaxy far, far, away!
Buford T Pusser
05-12-06, 10:18 AM
I just remembered this thread. I ended up selling my whole box set - then I re-purchased Star Wars and Empire used from Hollywood video for $8 a piece.
Thanks for the belated closure!
I missed this thread the first time.
Filmmaker
05-12-06, 12:30 PM
Chalk up another DVD Talker here who thinks RETURN OF THE JEDI is the best of ALL the STAR WARS films, and who thinks Wannabe is out of his ever-lovin' gourd...
riley_dude
05-12-06, 07:30 PM
Just get the regular version that comes out in September.
flyboy
05-12-06, 07:45 PM
Funny, I actually think ROTJ was the worst of the three films. Too many puppets...too many dumb plots. A terrible Vader/Luke Light Sabre duel (TESB duel) was so much better. Now having said all that, it could be that I was 18 when Jedi came out and was not as enamored with the film as I was with Star Wars or Empire. But most fans of the film I know that are 10 years younger than me think ROTJ was the best one.
But all in all ROTJ is still better than that mediocre garbage put out from 99-2005 with a Star Wars name slapped on it. :)
FRwL
05-12-06, 09:25 PM
It's light years ahead of the prequels. Let's see, Luke leads the badass escape from Jabba's Palace, slave Leia, the final duel, and the greatest space battle in human history part of the tri-battle, and the only time we see the sweet gadgetry of Boba Fett (i'm fine how he dies, the bad guy has to go, realistically, without having a cheesy moment), and something people don't even mention anymore, but after 3 films and the saga being complete after all of those adventures, we finally see them celebrating their victory in the heartwarming part in the forest along with the 3 ghosts.
Filmmaker
05-12-06, 09:49 PM
Now having said all that, it could be that I was 18 when Jedi came out and was not as enamored with the film as I was with Star Wars or Empire. But most fans of the film I know that are 10 years younger than me think ROTJ was the best one.
he he...I was 11 when it came out, so close!
darqleo
05-12-06, 10:46 PM
I can't even begin to count the number of times I've heard this: "I guess I'll buy DVD X, even though I really didn't like it that much"
I guess they've got money burning a hole in their pocket.
MWB
05-13-06, 01:41 AM
But most fans of the film I know that are 10 years younger than me think ROTJ was the best one.
I was seven when it came out and I think it's easily the worst of the first three.
Novasonic
05-13-06, 02:00 AM
Maybe so, but it completes the trilogy. You guys are all sick imo. :saber:
bunkaroo
05-13-06, 02:14 AM
This is not a dig, but damn, I can't see how someone could be a fan of ANH and ESB and not like ROTJ. What's the point? Does the saga just end with ESB for you guys?
I was 8 when it came out. There are still times when I feel it's the best of the OT. I still get a chill every time the force theme kicks in when Luke turns on his new green lightsaber for the first time and starts kicking ass. That was a big deal back then for it to be green! Also the final confrontation with the Emperor is some of the best stuff of the saga. Some of the Endor stuff runs long, but it's still such a classic.
Novasonic
05-13-06, 02:43 AM
Yeah, I think some people are just retarded or something. I think it's paint chips.
flyboy
05-13-06, 04:32 PM
This is not a dig, but damn, I can't see how someone could be a fan of ANH and ESB and not like ROTJ. What's the point? Does the saga just end with ESB for you guys?
I was 8 when it came out. There are still times when I feel it's the best of the OT. I still get a chill every time the force theme kicks in when Luke turns on his new green lightsaber for the first time and starts kicking ass. That was a big deal back then for it to be green! Also the final confrontation with the Emperor is some of the best stuff of the saga. Some of the Endor stuff runs long, but it's still such a classic.
I think thats great that you hold ROTJ in such high regards, I was 12 in May of 77 when I saw Star Wars and feel the way about that film that you do ROTJ. The saga did not end for me, its just that the duel sucked compared to ESB wich lasted so much longer, the Ewoks have to go and all the dang puppets from all over the galaxy and Han Solo (already Indiana Jones by then) his character really did nothing and had nowhere to go like in the first two. So I thought his character was wasted in the film... But, ROTJ did have some great moments as well.
Nick Danger
05-14-06, 11:17 AM
I've got a question about ROTJ:
When I saw the movie in first release, there was a quick shot of an Ewok having a cute death scene. I think he made eye-contact with the camera, closed his eyes, and his head rolled over. It was so bad that it made a lot of people in the theater squirm.
When I rented the VHS in the mid-90s, that scene wasn't there.
Has the cute Ewok death scene been reinstated in the current version?
maingon
05-14-06, 11:48 AM
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agree
I love the movie, i dont understand if you like the other 2 how can you not like this one even a little?
Filmmaker
05-14-06, 06:24 PM
I've got a question about ROTJ:
When I saw the movie in first release, there was a quick shot of an Ewok having a cute death scene. I think he made eye-contact with the camera, closed his eyes, and his head rolled over. It was so bad that it made a lot of people in the theater squirm.
When I rented the VHS in the mid-90s, that scene wasn't there.
Has the cute Ewok death scene been reinstated in the current version?
Maybe you're confusing it with one of the made-for-TV Ewok movies?
T1000
05-14-06, 06:41 PM
I never liked this movie and don't feel I need it as part of my DVD library. I plan on ebaying it to reduce the cost of my trilogy set. I'll probably ditch the documentary too (after I watch it).
I'm in the minority here, but I think ROTJ is the strongest of the trilogy. Followed by ANH, then ESB.
Filmmaker
05-14-06, 09:23 PM
I'm in the minority here, but I think ROTJ is the strongest of the trilogy. Followed by ANH, then ESB.
I agree with you 100%.
MWB
05-14-06, 09:59 PM
This is not a dig, but damn, I can't see how someone could be a fan of ANH and ESB and not like ROTJ. What's the point? Does the saga just end with ESB for you guys?
Never said I didn't like Jedi, just that I think it's the worst of the first three. I like it, but not as much as I like Star Wars and Empire. It's not even so much a knock on Jedi as it is praise for the first two--they were just that good. My opinion, of course.
flyboy
05-14-06, 10:33 PM
Never said I didn't like Jedi, just that I think it's the worst of the first three. I like it, but not as much as I like Star Wars and Empire. It's not even so much a knock on Jedi as it is praise for the first two--they were just that good. My opinion, of course.
I feel the same way. Star Wars was great as it was new and we had never seen anyting like it on the screen before (1977) and Empire really had the best story . Jedi was very good, but falls just a tad short of the other two flms. If the first two films were 4 stars I think this would be a 3 star film. But in no way would I not have Jedi in my collection, thats just crazy!
Now the prequels.....a different matter.
DVD King
05-15-06, 12:06 AM
only reason to get rid of jedi would be for that preposterous scene with the CG alien lady and frog singing together, talk about a jarring change
milo bloom
05-15-06, 06:04 PM
I've got a question about ROTJ:
When I saw the movie in first release, there was a quick shot of an Ewok having a cute death scene. I think he made eye-contact with the camera, closed his eyes, and his head rolled over. It was so bad that it made a lot of people in the theater squirm.
When I rented the VHS in the mid-90s, that scene wasn't there.
Has the cute Ewok death scene been reinstated in the current version?
There's always been a scene where two Ewoks are running and an AT-ST shoots at them, and it doesn't hit dead on, but the shockwave and/or the heat knocks them off their feet. One of them gets up a few seconds later, and tries to wake up the other one but he's died. The other Ewok kneels back down and makes a sad sound.
In certain fandom circles the dead Ewok is known as Corpsey the Ewok.
I don't think the scene you describe was ever in the film exactly like that, the Ewok costumes' eyes couldn't blink at all. Watch them, it's like Village of the Damned or something.
Nick Danger
05-16-06, 10:52 AM
I probably misremember the details, but an Ewok definitely got a noble/cute death scene. My friend and I scoffed at it on the way home from the theater. I never saw the Ewoks TV program.
Qui Gon Jim
05-16-06, 11:47 AM
There was never a scene like the one mentioned above. As Milo said, the Ewok costumes did not have the ability to blink. You are probably thinking of the scene where the two Ewoks are near hit and one of them is sad because his friend died. In fact, that may be the only Ewok we actually see die on-screen.
Wannabe
09-10-06, 08:26 AM
Any of you sheep not buying "Return of the Jedi" on Tuesday?
LorenzoL
09-10-06, 08:39 AM
Any of you sheep not buying "Return of the Jedi" on Tuesday?
Great post. Any more witty remarks? :rolleyes:
Buford T Pusser
09-10-06, 02:09 PM
I'm not buying any of them.
Baaaaaaahhhhh
Harry Lime
09-10-06, 03:06 PM
So far I'v only read the first page of replies original post and it seems like the OP has a lynching party after him for wanting to get rid of his ROTJ. Even though I wouldn't, seeing as its part of the story and it closed up luke's adventure without leaving you feeling like you need anymore. I dont think this is the craziest thing done here. Throwing away dvd cases and the cutting of artwork to convert movies to thinpaks is a lot crazier to me!!!!
J-Log
09-10-06, 03:26 PM
Even though I am 22 years old, I first saw the OT when the SEs were released in theaters in '97. At that time ROTJ became my favorite, and to some extent I still find it to be the most entertaining of the trilogy. However, objectively speaking, I don't find it to be the "best." That title would go to ANH. I've never been too crazy about TESB although it seems to get the highest accolades.