Not sure if this has been posted on this forum yet....if it has, sorry....http://dvd.ign.com/articles/543/543785p1.html
Cameron
09-02-04, 03:25 PM
looks cool...
For the lazy
September 01, 2004 - Warner Home Video has announced it will release the Ultimate Oliver Stone Collection, a 14-disc giftset with 12 of his films and three documentaries, two of which have not been released on DVD yet, on October 19. The set will come in two digipaks holding seven discs each and sell for $129.92.
Films in the Ultimate Oliver Stone Collection are from a number of studios. Working out this deal must have been a work of art in and of itself. The set will contain:
Salvador: Special Edition
Platoon: Special Edition
Wall Street
Talk Radio
Born on the Fourth of July
The Doors
JFK Special Edition Director's Cut
Heaven and Earth
Natural Born Killers
Nixon
U-Turn
Any Given Sunday Special Edition Director's Cut
Disc 13 will contain the documentary Oliver Stone's America,, an in-depth look at Stone's movie legacy with clips, interviews with Stone and behind-the-scenes footage. It will also include one of Stone's student films, Last Year in Viet Nam.
Disc 14 will have two documentaries making their DVD debut, 2003's Persona Non Grata and 2004's Looking for Fidel. Not surprisingly, there will also be a documentary on Stone's upcoming film Alexander, due in November, called On the Set of Alexander.
chowchris13
09-02-04, 03:30 PM
wondering if nixon will be anamorphic....i'm pretty sure the single disc thats available is non-anamorphic....
Cameron
09-02-04, 03:45 PM
yah and what about all the content on those 2 disc sets like jfk and the doors...
AnonomusBob15
09-02-04, 04:07 PM
I really wish they would clear up about the number of discs in the set. IT DOESN"T ADD UP!
A question for the owners of the previous set.... was Nixon the 2 discer?
nova
09-02-04, 04:12 PM
No Director's Cut on Natural Born Killers? Please tell me it's the DC before I get really pissed that another re-release box comes out with older versions of the film and not the newer ones.
JoeyOhhhh
09-02-04, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by AnonomusBob15
I really wish they would clear up about the number of discs in the set. IT DOESN"T ADD UP!
A question for the owners of the previous set.... was Nixon the 2 discer? The Nixon in the previous box was the 2 disc director's cut of the film, not the one disc theatrical cut.
chowchris13
09-02-04, 08:56 PM
i'm sure more info will be out in the next few weeks...
Josh-da-man
09-02-04, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by nova
No Director's Cut on Natural Born Killers? Please tell me it's the DC before I get really pissed that another re-release box comes out with older versions of the film and not the newer ones.
There's really no reason for the boxed set to include the DC of NBK.
Aside from Warners being skittish about unrated material, they already own the theatrical cut, so they probably don't see any point in licensing it back from Trimark.
Yeah, it would be nice if it were included, but from Warner's point of view, they already own the rights to one version of the movie.
trigun
09-02-04, 10:42 PM
A double digipak? Why not just one digipak that stretches from here to Shanghai?
nova
09-02-04, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Josh-da-man
There's really no reason for the boxed set to include the DC of NBK.
Aside from Warners being skittish about unrated material, they already own the theatrical cut, so they probably don't see any point in licensing it back from Trimark.
Yeah, it would be nice if it were included, but from Warner's point of view, they already own the rights to one version of the movie.
I really don't bash anyone ever on the forums but HUH?!?! No reason to have the dc? What are you on? Why would anyone not want the DC of any movie over the theatrical?
:)
AnonomusBob15
09-03-04, 01:28 AM
Although I would like to have the Director's Cut included, I can see from Josh's standpoint that it is extremely unlikely.
It doesn't even seem that they will include all of the other discs at that.
chrismcg
09-03-04, 03:08 AM
Yeah - I'd like more info on this title too - since I avoided the last Stone Collection the news of this one has peaked my interest somewhat.
Burnt Thru
09-03-04, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by nova
I really don't bash anyone ever on the forums but HUH?!?! No reason to have the dc? What are you on? Why would anyone not want the DC of any movie over the theatrical?
:)
Well , the extra/different footage doesn't always make for a better movie . Case in point - Dances with Wolves .
Cameron
09-09-04, 01:22 AM
any news on where the extra content from those 2-dicers are going
mikewendt
09-09-04, 11:23 AM
I got the original 11 disc box, and bought Platoon & Salvador seperatly... Great set.
chowchris13
09-19-04, 11:42 PM
any more info on this set?
jmj713
09-29-04, 08:02 PM
Wow, it's been a while and still no concrete info on this? Are 2-discers losing the second disc or what? And are the non-anamorphic transfers fixed?
Dr. DVD
09-29-04, 09:40 PM
Interesting that Amazon has all of it for only $89.00 or so. I wonder if some B&Ms can compete with that?
October 19th will definitely be busy with that, a Monster Legacy (not sure if it will have busts) set, and the Hellboy gift set!
ruk
09-29-04, 10:06 PM
no website gives any information comparing this new set from his last, what about all those 2 disc editions, has the extra's been taken off
Geofferson
09-30-04, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by mikewendt
I got the original 11 disc box, and bought Platoon & Salvador seperatly... Great set.
Same here. I won't be picking this one up.
1. Salvador
2. Platoon
3. Wall Street
4. Talk Radio
5. Born on the Fourth of July
6. Doors
7. JFK DC
8. Heaven and Earth
9. Natural Born Killers TC
10. Nixon
11. U-Turn
12. Any Given Sunday DC
13. Oliver Stone's America
14. Looking for Fidel/Persona non Grata, and the Alexander preview
All housed in two flip-out Digipaks (presumably like the Buffy and X-Files sets) housed in a slipcase.
Unless the previously released 2-disc sets are DVD-14 and DVD-18 flippers, it looks like the second discs are being dropped. :(
Here's a pic, showing a one-sided "Doors" DVD, so it's starting to look like any supplementary discs won't be included.
Damn. For just over 80 bucks with STL this looked like one HELL of a deal. Not so much anymore.
ThatGuamGuy
10-01-04, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Here's a pic, showing a one-sided "Doors" DVD, so it's starting to look like any supplementary discs won't be included.
But the "Doors" disc says "Disc 1" on it.
Didn't the initial announcement specify at least one of the two-disc sets? either 'JFK' or 'Any Given Sunday'?
Anyway, none of this matters too much to me, I just want that last disc and the new 'Fourth of July'.
Dr. DVD
10-01-04, 10:40 AM
Will the Nixon included be the DC?
I think doors didn't really offer much in terms of extras. I just hope it keeps the commentary.
Did Stone ever record anything for Talk Radio or U-Turn? I heard he never did.
ThatGuamGuy
10-01-04, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
I think doors didn't really offer much in terms of extras. I just hope it keeps the commentary.
45 minutes in deleted scenes and a 40 minute doc weren't enough for you?
Did Stone ever record anything for Talk Radio or U-Turn? I heard he never did.
Not yet, no.
ruk
10-01-04, 12:21 PM
does anyone know what is deleted from this set as compared from the last set
ThatGuamGuy
10-01-04, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by ruk
does anyone know what is deleted from this set as compared from the last set
The last set had a two-disc 'Nixon' (director's cut; it hasn't been said which cut this will include). I believe it also had a two-disc 'The Doors' (in a snapper, though) and the previous two-disc 'JFK'.
chowchris13
10-01-04, 08:07 PM
i want an anamorphic nixon
Cameron
10-04-04, 04:18 PM
again what about the extras
ThatGuamGuy
10-04-04, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Cameron
again what about the extras
Please phrase questions in the form of a question.
What do you want to know? Since you clearly know there has been no official word yet, and that the speculation is that the one-discs will be exactly the same while any two-disc ['The Doors', 'JFK', 'Any Given Sunday', and 'Nixon'] will only be the first disc. There's no word yet on whether 'Nixon' and 'The Doors' will be anamorphic. But these things are all in the thread which you must've read, so what is it you're actually asking?
Cameron
10-04-04, 04:32 PM
i guess you didn't read the thread or you would know that i had already asked a question..and i do not know "clearly" that there has been no official word. If you don't have an answer then don't be an ass
Dr. DVD
10-04-04, 05:34 PM
Hey Cameron, kind of off topic, but are there any decent paying jobs available in Nashville? My current line of work is getting to me, and I loved Nashville when I briefly lived there before.
ThatGuamGuy
10-05-04, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Cameron
i guess you didn't read the thread or you would know that i had already asked a question
But that question was answered. You asked about the second discs, and they aren't there.
..and i do not know "clearly" that there has been no official word.
Okay, fair enough. Show me where there has been.
If you don't have an answer then don't be an ass
Jeez, get a sense of humor, dude. I made a little joke at the front and then answered your question exactly. But, to repeat it again, what are you asking if not what I answered (which had all been said before)?
I'll tell you right now, they're not going to cram the extras onto the single discs of 'JFK', 'Nixon', or 'Any Given Sunday', since those movies are all around three hours.
ruk
10-05-04, 12:44 PM
i was thinking about getting this set, now i am not so sure, is it better to get his previous 10 disc set than this one???
ThatGuamGuy
10-05-04, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by ruk
i was thinking about getting this set, now i am not so sure, is it better to get his previous 10 disc set than this one???
Really, the best way to get them is individually.
the 10-movie (15-disc) didn't come with 'Salvador' or 'Platoon'. It came with an inferior 'Born on the Fourth of July' [which is being upgraded and re-released to coincide with this set]. The old set comes with the old version of the 'JFK' special edition, which doesn't include the 'Beyond JFK - A Question of Conspiracy' doc, (but, of course, none of the special features seem to be in the new set).
And neither release comes with the director's cut of 'Natural Born Killers'.
I've bought all the good releases over time [still holding out on 'Talk Radio' and 'U-Turn', because those have no commentary tracks], so the only thing I want out of this new box is Disc 14, with the two docs Stone shot for HBO last year.
Dr. DVD
10-10-04, 09:13 PM
Is Heaven and Earth available seperately as a SE?
scrimshaw
10-11-04, 03:58 AM
Is Heaven and Earth available seperately as a SE?
Yes.
Dr. DVD
10-11-04, 10:44 PM
Okay. Why are there no reviews yet to confirm or deny our suspicions? I would really like to pick this up as Oliver Stone is one of my favorite directors and I would love to own this, but I need to know if I should get this one large puppy or just get each one seperately (though I would love to have a custom made box.)
Cameron
10-16-04, 05:04 PM
saw it at borders...not getting it though...reviews
Legolas
10-18-04, 07:47 PM
I think if you have the previous 10-movie Stone Collection, then this new one isn't worth it. If you only bought the 6-movie Stone Collection, then this would be a good one to grab.
ThickAsABrick
10-18-04, 08:26 PM
Just got mine today.. and just finished watching Any Given Sunday too. Worth the cash, to me :)
dtsguy3407
10-18-04, 10:25 PM
Someone please be so kind as to advise if Nixon & Doors in this set are 16x9
ASAP......
Thanks
shanomac316
10-19-04, 03:41 AM
Also, are these definately just the 1-disc versions...i know there is only one disc for them....but did they perhaps mash together a load of special features on the single discs...
I really want Wall Street and NBK but only if the set has the good versions of Born On the 4th Of July, Any Given sunday, Heaven and Earth, etc...
ThatGuamGuy
10-19-04, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by shanomac316
Also, are these definately just the 1-disc versions...i know there is only one disc for them....but did they perhaps mash together a load of special features on the single discs...
Would you actually want a one-disc version of 'JFK' with a three hour plus version of the movie plus more than an hour of docs? Or the three and a half hour version of 'Nixon' *and* Stone on Charlie Rose for an hour *and* 20 minutes of deleted scenes?
I really want Wall Street and NBK but only if the set has the good versions of Born On the 4th Of July, Any Given sunday, Heaven and Earth, etc...
Well, the good version of 'Born' just came out today, I'm pretty sure it's the same one. And 'Heaven and Earth' is another where the good version is one disc. So those aren't the concerns. "Any Given Sunday" won't be; even if it is, again, that'd be cramming more than four hours worth of stuff onto one disc. I guess it's possible but it sure doesn't sound likely. My advise is buy seperately; 'Wall Street' is dirt-cheap and this set will have the heavily cut version of NBK anyway.
shanomac316
10-19-04, 11:29 AM
thanks
WhiskyDrinker
10-21-04, 09:57 PM
Does anyone have the specs for each disc in this set?
Masamune
10-21-04, 10:31 PM
Anyone know if THE DOORS is anamorphic now or no?
PLEASE ANSWER!!! =p lol
Robert
10-21-04, 10:51 PM
I did the math and the only two-disc set in the box is JFK, the rest are single discs. AGS, Doors, Nixon are the single disc versions
Gonvik
10-23-04, 11:38 PM
Well I just registered to break the silence on this package, and here's the deal since I bought it yesterday:
Every disc is the same exact previously released disc, except for "Born on the 4th of July" which is the new special edition disc. Also the set only contains the 1st disc of any 2 disc set. So that means The Doors, JFK, Nixon, and Any Given Sunday only are Disc 1. The Natural Born Killers dvd in this set is the R-rated edition, but I'm not totally bothered since it does include the deleted scenes and alternate ending.
As for the anamorphic issue, here's where things get fuzzy from me. I don't own a widescreen TV so I really can't tell you whether Nixon or The Doors is now anamorphic. Being as the artwork on the discs is the same as before (the Nixon disc is just plain silver except for the title "NIXON" and The Doors has Val Kilmer the label "disc 1" on it), my guess would be they are not anamorphic...
But to make matters even MORE confusing, the booklet contained in the set lists Nixon and the Doors as "16x9 enhanced 2:40." This is most likely a printing error, but I really just can't confirm this for myself. Someone else has got to have this set?
Despite them dropping the 2nd discs of the special editions, I don't regret buying it. I'm a fan of most of his films, and after seeing Talk Radio last night for the first time I must say that I loved it. Personally I probably would only watch the 2nd disc supplements about once so it's not a total loss for me. Still, this should have been the definitive release of Oliver Stone's collection.
Dr. DVD
10-24-04, 01:27 PM
Is the Nixon they include the director's cut?
In all honesty, the extras on the sets back in 01 were good, but not stuff you would watch more than once IMO.
Josh Z
10-24-04, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Gonvik
As for the anamorphic issue, here's where things get fuzzy from me. I don't own a widescreen TV so I really can't tell you whether Nixon or The Doors is now anamorphic.
Set your DVD player for 16:9. If the picture looks stretched vertically, they are anamorphic. If it looks exactly the same, they're non-anamorphic.
Gonvik
10-24-04, 05:25 PM
Ah thanks, and it turns out they are not anamorphic. Doh. And yes, Nixon is the director's cut (I think its like 28 added minutes of footage).
So to sum up its the same discs as before (minus any 2nd discs for a movie), except for "Born on the 4th of July" and the new documentaries that are included on the 14th disc.
Dr. DVD
10-24-04, 06:01 PM
Good lord, you think that somebody would get with the program and update Doors and Nixon already!
animatedude
11-30-04, 10:48 AM
check the review here (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=13207)
it says
Born On The Fourth Of July: Featured on this disc is a commentary from Stone, some basic production notes, and some cast and filmmaker biographies. Considering what a big deal this movie was when it was released theatrically I honestly expected there to be more on this disc. Some of the supplements from the recently two disc special edition from Universal would have been very welcome, but that didn’t happen.
1-there's no 2 dics set exist from universal.
2-the special edition released lately is included.
Drexl
11-30-04, 01:34 PM
DVD Authority has a review of BOTFOJ, and the review refers to it as a "two-disc special edition." However, the info about the supplements in the review just describes the supplements on the recently released special edition, which is one disc.
Why are people thinking there is a two-disc version?
ThatGuamGuy
11-30-04, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by animatedude
check the review here (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=13207)
Also odd in that review:
"This is the second documentary that Stone has made on the intriguing subject of Fidel Castro (following Commandante which is suspiciously absent from this set)."
There's nothing suspicious about it (other than the misspelling). HBO refused to release 'Comandante' in the USA, and forced Stone to re-imagine it [just after it showed at Sundance, Castro cracked down on a bunch of dissidents, and the country got a lot more anti-Cuba, so HBO wanted Stone to get Castro to discuss why this had happened], which became (with some additional shooting) 'Looking For Fidel'.
Buy: