Star Trek Generations SE RECALLED!

[Chew]

It's official, folks. After saying they were and then saying they weren't, Paramount is again saying that they ARE recalling the Star Trek: Generations - Special Collector's Edition so that the inaccurate spec listing on packaging can be corrected. The title will NOT be released on 9/7 as originally scheduled. Naturally, since the discs have already shipped out to retailers, many copies will still find their way into consumers' hands on 9/7. Whatever you do, DON'T pay a huge price for the disc on eBay. Paramount expects to announce the revised street date soon, so don't get ripped off by unscrupulous types on the secondary market. The title is still coming, and sooner rather than later. We'll give you the new date as soon as Paramount sends it over.
Link (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents)

I'm happy to say my DDD order shipped yesterday. :D

[lotsofdvds]

Yeah we wouldn't want Paramount to give out the wrong idea that they actually put trailers on their DVD releases.

[Rammsteinfan]

Hehe, it really is silly. OKAY, if your going to put TRAILERS on it, great, if your going to change the cover, forget it. It wouldnt be the first time a cover is wrong.

Okay, can we get an insert to make up for it now? ;)

[lotsofdvds]

What if a newly commissioned insert to make up for the delay then mistakenly mentions the trailers?

[Shazam]

Hmm, if they put the new DVDs into a starship and go around the sun really fast at warp speed, they can deliver the new DVDs before the recall is even announced! Brilliant!

[sracer]

The real reason for the recall is that they're pulling the cross-dressing featurette. ;)

[Sierra Disc]

Stoopid.

[bboisvert]

So, what exactly is the issue with the trailer. What is in it that could possibly need "clearance"?

[ZackR]

Originally posted by bboisvert
So, what exactly is the issue with the trailer. What is in it that could possibly need "clearance"?
Music. I believe the Generations trailer had some music licensed for it that Paramount now does not have the rights to distribute. It is not at all uncommon for movie trailers to contain music from other movies or sources. Think of it as "temp music" or something. Anyways, it was probably going to cost Paramount a lot of money to license the music for the DVD release.

[ZackR]

And according to the Trailers listing at Filmmusic.com (http://www.filmmusic.com/trailers/?cid=S&id=587), the Generations trailer used the following music:

"The Planets: Neptune" - Gustav Holst
&
Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987) - Jerry Goldsmith

So, yes, I would be willing to bet it was music clearance issues.

[bboisvert]

Hmmmm... I suppose I don't understand how these things work, exactly.

I would think that Paramount already has rights to use the ST:TNG theme in pretty much anything they want. And Holst's stuff is in the public domain.

Maybe it was the specific performance that was licensed? If that's the case, I don't see why they couldn't just replace it. Oh well, no biggie either way. Stupid reason for a recall, though -- a simple printing error?

[Flynn]

Thanks so much for the heads up - I'll now try double hard to get this on Tuesday.

[C.H.U.D.]

I wonder how many idiots will pay $50+ for them on eBay.

[Chew]

Originally posted by Flynn
Thanks so much for the heads up - I'll now try double hard to get this on Tuesday.

If you have a BestBuy available to you: there's a fairly good chance this will be on the shelf Saturday.

I picked up Duel the Saturday before it's release and that wasn't the first "minor" title on which it happened.

[Adrenaline]

I wonder if Columbia House is going to ship it on Tuesday or not.

[darmok]

too bad they didn't add the trailers...i remember them being pretty cool ones (especially with the one where the alternate ending was used and Kirk says "the 24th century isn't so bad...")

[calhoun07]

They should have let it go as is and for the people that cared about the cover they could have set up a customer service number where people could call and request an official cover with the changes on it. They are recalling a DVD for what? The 2% that give a shit?

[Fok]

Why wouldn't they include the trailers?

[milo bloom]

Originally posted by Fok
Why wouldn't they include the trailers?

Read above /\ music rights.

At the HTF there's some discussion that the transfer is of a lower quality than the 16x9 one released in region 2 a few years ago, I'm hoping the recall is to fix that problem. This is one of my personal favorites and I got rid of my old 1 disc a long time ago and I've really been itching to watch this. I hope Paramount makes good.

[Rammsteinfan]

I dont care about the cover... im using my custom one I made anyways.

[DGibFen]

From Digital Bits:

Howdy, kids. We've just received an official statement from Paramount about the Generations delay...

"There is a typographical error on the Star Trek Generations Special Collector's Edition DVD. It inadvertently notes a teaser and theatrical trailer that are not on the DVD. As a result, this product is being recalled and street date (originally September 7) is being delayed. We will provide further information on a new street date shortly

[Rockmjd23]

these were shipped to all Best Buys and unless we receive an official notice to not put them out, they will be on the shelves.

[chanster]

At this point, it is cheaper for Paramount to pay whatever $$$ it costs to license the music than to reprint the movie. Paramount knows this, the music holder knows this, so I would expect Paramount to pay out of its ass for the rights to Gustav Fuck Face or whatever his name is,

[OutOfStock]

Most online stores have pulled Star Trek Generations 9-7-04 release off their sites...

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by Adrenaline
I wonder if Columbia House is going to ship it on Tuesday or not.

An excellent question.

I'd bet the answer is "no".

[Dragonslayer]

No fixed transfer = Doubtful sale!

[jarofclay73]

If I find it at a store on Sept. 7, I will definitely buy it.

[b0bafett]

Originally posted by Dragonslayer
No fixed transfer = Doubtful sale!

Dragonslayer, the new CE is going to have an Anamorphic 2:35:1 transfer. As opposed to the Non-Anamorphic transfer on the original R1 release.

[Mountain Biker]

edit

[bjeggert82]

Mine shipped from Amazon.com today... Yippie!

[Adrenaline]

Columbia House is saying 10/4 now

[buckee1]

I pre-ordered the R2 SE just in case. I'm still going to check the shelves on Tues. though.

[Mike Lowrey]

Originally posted by bjeggert82
Mine shipped from Amazon.com today... Yippie!

WHAT??? :mad: I just got an email from Amazon saying that it's been delayed. :down:

[Classic Films]

Originally posted by bjeggert82
Mine shipped from Amazon.com today... Yippie!


I also got the E-mail from Amazon that it has been delayed.
Was your shipping free or not. Mine was free and i was wondering if that made a difference as to whether this shipped or not.

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
WHAT??? :mad: I just got an email from Amazon saying that it's been delayed. :down: Me too.

F'n Paramount..

[buckee1]

Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
WHAT??? :mad: I just got an email from Amazon saying that it's been delayed. :down:

Me three :mad:

[Jason Reynolds]

Originally posted by buckee1
Me three :mad:

Ditto.

And mine is part of a 'share the love' 'free shipping' order so none of my order is shipping!

-Jason

[milo bloom]

Originally posted by b0bafett
Dragonslayer, the new CE is going to have an Anamorphic 2:35:1 transfer. As opposed to the Non-Anamorphic transfer on the original R1 release.

That's not the point. At another forum, the people that have already gotten theirs are saying that this new 16x9 transfer is of lower quality than the 16x9 transfer released in Region 2 a few years back.

I'm sure I'll buy regardless, but it would be nice to have a reference transfer on one of my favorite Trek movies.

[Rockmjd23]

All Best Buys should have received an email about sending these Dvds back to the manufacturer today, so unless they ignore it, BB wont have it

[island007]

Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
WHAT??? :mad: I just got an email from Amazon saying that it's been delayed. :down:

Ditto

[buckee1]

I went over to amazon.ca and ordered it. Currently, it's in the "shipping soon" status. Here's to hoping!

[THX7966]

Mine shipped from Deep Discount DVD on Monday, so it should arrive after Labor Day. Finally, pre-ordering from DDD pays off!

[Dazed]

Originally posted by buckee1
I went over to amazon.ca and ordered it. Currently, it's in the "shipping soon" status. Here's to hoping!

Of course the canadian one is bound to have awful bilingual packaging like the others. Think ill just wait and buy one for US.

[Daniel L]

Any guesses on how long the delay could be? I hope this isn't like Ed Wood or something.

Long, long ago, Halloween H20's packaging listed a commentary track that wasn't on the disc. Eventually, the package was updated in future printings, but I doubt that anyone really noticed. I wonder why Paramount couldn't do something like this, rather than recall the whole damn thing.

At least I can still buy Dawn of the Dead on Tuesday.

[Cornelius1047]

Originally posted by chanster
... Gustav Fuck Face ...

Um, since when are we allowed to use this word in a forum that isn't the Mature Forum? Did I miss a frickin' memo or something?

K

[pilot]

Originally posted by Cornelius1047
Um, since when are we allowed to use this word in a forum that isn't the Mature Forum? Did I miss a frickin' memo or something?

K

look in the feedback forum :p

[Decker]

Originally posted by Jason Reynolds
Ditto.

And mine is part of a 'share the love' 'free shipping' order so none of my order is shipping!

-Jason Call them and tell them what happened. They have the best CS and I'm certain will send the rest of your order under the circumstances.

[LASERMOVIES]

Originally posted by Classic Films
I also got the E-mail from Amazon that it has been delayed.
Was your shipping free or not. Mine was free and i was wondering if that made a difference as to whether this shipped or not.

I found paid shipping was the difference for me getting a copy of the recalled Duel release last year from Amazon. Reason I know is because I had placed two different orders after I found out Amazon had copies available. First order I used free shipping but it was cancelled. Second order I opted to pay for shipping was received.

[Cornelius1047]

Originally posted by Cornelius1047
Um, since when are we allowed to use this word in a forum that isn't the Mature Forum? Did I miss a fuckin' memo or something?

K

Fixed.

[Max Bottomtime]

Has anyone seen the recalled DVD out early this weekend?I'd like to get it before it's pulled off the shelves. I don't really care about a misprint on the case.

[Rammsteinfan]

I went to BB today and talked with a girl there, she went into the back and said that they were recalled and not with the other movies to be put out Tuesday. Poop. Its silly, who cares if its a slight misprint... if they are GOING to put the trailer on there, great! if not, just let it be. its not like it was gonna sell millions and millions of copies anyways.

[Defiant1]

I'm really surprised Paramount recalled it over such a small thing. Why didn't they recall ST:VI for having the much bigger error of upside-down disc art? One of the later DS9 series sets also has a large fleet of ships flying backwards throughout the seven discs as well.

[ENDContra]

I just saw a commercial for this on FOX about 30 seconds ago...why are they advertising it if its been recalled?

[calhoun07]

Originally posted by Max Bottomtime
Has anyone seen the recalled DVD out early this weekend?I'd like to get it before it's pulled off the shelves. I don't really care about a misprint on the case.

Got mine at a Borders on Friday. I went in and didn't see it on the shelf, so I asked a clerk for it. He looks it up in the computer, it says there are two on hand and he makes a comment it's probably on a display up front. After searching all the displays in the store, he says, "Maybe it's still in back because they didn't think it came out yet." (He's saying this while I am eyeing the 9/14 release of Rocky and Bullwinkle Season Two sitting on their shelf.) He goes in back and brings out two copies. I snag one and a friend I am with snags the other one. They were selling for an unbelievable low price of 14.99. At Borders, I was expecting to pay at least 24.99-29.99 for the thing.

I just wanted it to own. My friend isn't even opening his. I ripped mine open right after I got home and put in the bonus disc and watched the movie Saturday. I was disappointed that it wasn't an extended cut, but after viewing the less than disappointing deleted scenes, I wasn't too upset. I am just glad to have it on DVD.

[jarofclay73]

Circuit City ad still had it in. I'll check it out tomorrow if they have it. If they do I'll get it for $12.99.

[SMB-IL]

I played dumb about the recall and ordered it from DDD last night. This morning's e-mail says "In-Stock", so we'll see if it's going to ship or not....

[grune]

I checked a K-Mart this morning. They had the new disks sitting in boxes on a cart. I saw Generations and grabbed two. Later I went to Wal-Mart and they had it out on the shelf. I don't think this is going to be that hard to get.

[Novasonic]

What's the deal with people saying the transfer is bad though? Should I wait or are they only changing the small error on the back of the box?

[buckee1]

Meijers & BB here in Okemos both had sent their stock back. CC had two copies on the shelf but the checkout would'nt permit the discs to be sold. On a better note: Amazon.ca shows they shipped mine this morning!

[Rogue588]

If anyone here comes up empty in their travels today or it doesn't ship, I found some. Click HERE (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=384168) for details..

[raven56706]

i got mine at suncoast for 14.99

[Quake1028]

Best Buy had a sign out about the recall and none on the shelf.

[Joe Molotov]

I got it at Wal*Mart for $14.44.

[Father Karras]

Apparently, Wal-Mart didn't get the recall memo (or ignored it). The one I went to had about 8 copies for sale. I decided to pick one up. I don't need the sticker on the outside package telling me that there are actually no trailers on the discs (which is what Paramount is apparently going to do). If they were actually going to put the trailers on the discs or tweak/improve the transfer, I would have waited for the new release date. Unfortunately, there is no indication this is going to happen.

[raven56706]

wait a minute..... the ones on the shelves right now doesnt have the trailers?


NOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

damn.... are they going to add theatrical trailers or are they just going to leave it out?

[buckee1]

If anyone in Central Michigan is interested WalMart on Marsh Road/Lansing has some for $12.99

[mcharro3]

FYI Canadians - I was in two Future Shops today and they both had Generations for $12.99 (I think - maybe it was a buck or two more). I would've got it, but (1) I'm not a fan; and (2) it had another ugly Paramount bilingual cover on it. So there you go.

[Superman07]

I went to BB this morning and was able to grab one. I'll hold off on opening it though. I don't care about the misprint, but if they are going to put the trailers on it then I'd rather have them than not, especially if the price is the same.

[raven56706]

same here..... but are they going to add trailers or not?

[jarofclay73]

Originally posted by Novasonic
What's the deal with people saying the transfer is bad though? Should I wait or are they only changing the small error on the back of the box?

This is what dvdreview.com writes about ST: Generations: (http://www.dvdreview.com/fullreviews/star_trek__generations.shtml)

"The presentation is free of defects or blemishes, rendering a very clean picture throughout. Color reproduction is very good, bringing out the best of the colorful costumes and settings, truly giving the film an otherworldly feel at times. Black levels are rock solid and create deep shadows that never lose detail. However, the transfer also exhibits some shimmering problems. Especially the close-ups of Data’s face and the desert scenes reveal these problems. The shimmering seems to be a problem of edge-enhancement applied too liberally to the transfer and is becoming very distracting at times. Many shots also reveal halos around contours as a result of the edge-enhancement. The compression has been handled well without out notable compression artifacts."

[meharry2003]

I went to BB, CC, Wal-Mart and Sam's and couldn't find one! They were putting out the Star Trek series out and I thought maybe they had the Generations DVD, but alas, none to be found...

I'm about to go check my K-Mart and Target down the street, I refuse to give up now seeing that others have found one

[raven56706]

does anyone know if they will add the trailers to the dvd?

[JasonF]

I got a voice mail yesterday from Suncoast saying that it wouldn't be released today since Paramount was recalling it due to a defect. They gave me the option to wait for the release or to (wait for it) cancel my preorder.

I'm going there tonight to pick up some other things, so maybe I'll see if they realize what the "defect" is.

[bdhart]

CC by me had three copies. I picked one up and the check out register wouldn't ring it up cause it had a release date of 09-07-05. The clerk overrode it though and I got it for $12.99.

[AdamComic2]

CC by me had three copies. I picked one up and the check out register wouldn't ring it up cause it had a release date of 09-07-05. The clerk overrode it though and I got it for $12.99.

Me too! Woohoo!

[JustInsane]

Best Buy in Culver City had a heap of Generations out, but not the new release table. They were all in the sci-fi section with all the other Star Trek movies.

[Rammsteinfan]

Yep, BEST BUY in Hayward, CA had about 15 copies as did Circuit City down the road... got mine.

One thing that I found funny was that someone put STAR TREK GENERATIONS NOW AVAILABLE ON DVD after each Deleted Scene... duh, what am I watching it on? ;)

[raven56706]

does that have theatrical trailers or any trailers for that matter?

i freaking bought the dvd just for the trailers

[FatTony]

Went to Best Buy near me. None on the shelf and no mention of it being recalled anywhere nearby.

[darmok]

experienced the same problem at my local CC this morning. the CSR called it into hq, and i was worried that they'd catch the recall. luckily, they came back saying that it was a typo in the system preventing the sale. the CSR manually overrode the system, and i walked out with my copy.

Originally posted by bdhart
CC by me had three copies. I picked one up and the check out register wouldn't ring it up cause it had a release date of 09-07-05. The clerk overrode it though and I got it for $12.99.

[Rammsteinfan]

Nope, no trailers whatsoever... still seems silly to recall it for that. At least pay the money and get the trailers if your going to make ppl wait for it.

[Kerborus]

I got mine at Movie Trading Company! My clerk also had to manually overide (he he old star trek lingo) the computer to sell it to me.

God Bless her!!

[WhovianZorker]

Originally posted by bdhart
CC by me had three copies. I picked one up and the check out register wouldn't ring it up cause it had a release date of 09-07-05. The clerk overrode it though and I got it for $12.99.

That explains why the guy in CC Customer Service said that it wasn't supposed to come out until next year...I guess. :rolleyes:

So I went across the street and PM'd at BBy. They had two out on the "New Releases Table" and about a dozen in the SF section.

[Admiral7]

I found two copies at Border's near me today, the only people in town to have actually put them out anyway. Everyone else had pulled them. I went ahead and got it because I have no hope whatsoever that they will actually put the trailers on the disk. It's much cheaper to reprint new inserts than it is to press their entire inventory of discs, so I'm sure they'll just print new inserts that don't say the disc has trailers on them.

[Daniel L]

Just bought mine at Borders.

[Brian Shannon]

CC near me would not sell it so I ended up at BB.

[laserdogg]

Bought mine for 14.99 at FYE

They only had 2 copies when I left. All other stores in my area seemed to have pulled their copies.

[jarofclay73]

The idiot clerks at Circuit City couldn't manually override the computer if their life depended on it.

Will check Borders sometime.

[mikej]

Thanks for the Borders tip. They had 4 on the shelf at $14.99.

-Mike

[Flynn]

Best Buy in Little Rock had it for $14.99 - Yay!

[JangoJason]

YEAH,..PElham Alabama walmart has 5 copies,..picked up 1,..am watching it now! NO TRAILERS :(

[meharry2003]

I went to two Circuit City's, two Best Buys, two FYE's, four Wal-Marts, two Targets, two Sam's and two K-Marts and found NOTHING! I did see that two of the Wal-Marts had sold out of them

The one Borders I went to said the movie was in store, so I asked someone and he told me they were on hold for some reason, he then said they're probably in the back and he would go get me one, he went back there and came back up front and told me there too many boxes to go through and try back tomorrow, I'm not expecting anything, but plan on trying again tomorrow night.

[Max Bottomtime]

Originally posted by meharry2003
I went to two Circuit City's, two Best Buys, two FYE's, four Wal-Marts, two Targets, two Sam's and two K-Marts and found NOTHING! I did see that two of the Wal-Marts had sold out of them

The one Borders I went to said the movie was in store, so I asked someone and he told me they were on hold for some reason, he then said they're probably in the back and he would go get me one, he went back there and came back up front and told me there too many boxes to go through and try back tomorrow, I'm not expecting anything, but plan on trying again tomorrow night. You can go to Borders.com, find a store in your area and reserve a copy. They will hold it for up to three days. I'm picking up mine after work tomorrow. :D

[sinister]

I went to K-Mart and they alot of copies but the problem was all of them had deep box cutter marks on their spines, every one. don't people know how to open a box without wrecking what's inside. it's always the movie that i want the most that's damaged.

[Flynn]

Originally posted by sinister
I went to K-Mart and they alot of copies but the problem was all of them had deep box cutter marks on their spines, every one. don't people know how to open a box without wrecking what's inside. it's always the movie that i want the most that's damaged.


Man, that really sucks!

Just got through watching the DVD and the extras are everything we've come to expect from these outstanding Star Trek SEs.

The transfer is great, and the sound was awesome. I'm glad I decided not to hold off on this one!

[digitalmanAZ]

Finally found it at Wal-Mart here in Phx, and they even pricematched to CC's 12.99 ad!

In my searching, a Best Buy employee said they pulled them and actually knew about the recall. CompUSA, Circuit City and Target employees said they never even saw them come into the store.

[fitprod]

Paramount is 99.9999% likely just going to change the packaging of the disc. It's not worth their time or money to re-author the disc for two trailers, that they do not have the music rights secured for.

This whole mess inevitably comes down to some dupe of a customer, and thier money grubbing lawyer, seeing visions of some type of lawsuit involving false advertising.

fitprod

[Living Dead]

K-Mart was the magic spot for me. They had about a half dozen copies. I brought it home and played it, and the disc skipped and wouldn't work. I got ticked, thinking it must have been a defect that caused the recall rather than the trailers, but when I took out the disc and turned it over, it was completely covered in greasy fingerprints. I've heard people on here talk about pulling items mint out of a case and finding fingerprints all over them, but this is the first time I've seen it. I gave it a careful cleaning and now it works fine.

[starving dvder]

Went to quite a few stores, but I was able to find one for 16.99 Canadian.:)

[stinkeye]

September 28th is now the official release date (http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=4782&n=1&burl=)

[raven56706]

so in other words..... there will be no trailers....

[stinkeye]

Package change only:

From Digital Bits

Paramount has informed us that the revised street date for their delayed Star Trek: Generations - Special Collector's Edition is 9/28. But judging by the e-mails we've been getting, plenty of copies are now available on store shelves despite the recall. Keep in mind that the only difference between these two releases will be the wording of the spec list on the back of the packaging- the actual discs are the same. Consider yourself warned. We don't want you getting ripped off on eBay or anything

[Hammer99]

Got mine at Wal-mart, the shelves were full of them.

[jarofclay73]

Booya! Got mine at Borders at Ward Centre. They still had it in the box. No problem buying it. $14.99.

[Sierra Disc]

Eh, my WalMart didn't have it, but I can wait 3 more weeks. between Clerks x, Star Wars and this it's an expensive month anyway.

[jeffkjoe]

This is the first time that this happened for the series SE's.

[Quake1028]

Got a copy at Best Buy. Don't give a rat's ass about the packaging mistake, but I didn't want to wait 3 weeks to watch it either :p.

If anyone is interested it's the BB on Dale Mabry in Tampa, FL. They had about 5-6 copies left after I got mine.

[mikej]

Found this at BJ's as well for $11.99. Item number is 631180. It was mixed in with the other new releases in the middle of the isle.

-Mike

[Dmacsg1]

Picked up my copy tonight at Wally World! They had at least 6 or 7 left. Got it for $14.44 Take care all!

[LikeMiamiVice]

i was at best buy today buying 'night of the demons' and they have a crap load of those star treks..the best buy in front of tropical park in miami florida if anyone is interested..

[Joe Molotov]

So has anyone who wanted it NOT been able to find it yet?

[salamander2]

glad they gotten this out faster. now if only they can put out LA FEMME NIKITA SEASON TWO soon!

[TheKing]

I found it at Best Buy in Fullerton. I picked up a copy and saw another copy on the shelf.

Interestingly enough, I couldn't find Clerks X! Best Buy didn't have any, and Target didn't have any. Target also didn't have any widescreen copies of The Ladykillers, though they had plenty of shelf space for it.

[Commander Dan]

Originally posted by Joe Molotov
So has anyone who wanted it NOT been able to find it yet?

I went to my local Wal-Mart on Tuesday and they had none. (They also had no copies of Clerks X.)

In fact, the dude there was so clueless, when I asked about Star Trek: Generations, he pointed towards the Original Series Season 1 DVD set. I told him, “no; Star Trek: Generations. It’s a Star Trek movie that was to be released today.” He said he would check his “list,” but after supposedly doing so, he claimed he could find nothing about it (or Clerks). Ah, the joys of shopping at Wally World….

I also checked Target, CD Warehouse (just because it was convenient; didn’t really expect them to have it), and Tower Records. No one had it. Tower Records was indeed aware of the recall and had complied by sending their stock back.

Because of my work schedule, I have simply not had a chance to look at other retailers. I am planning to go check at Best Buy and another Wal-Mart today (I’ll hit Circuit City too if I have the time), but I’m not holding my breath at this point.

[THX7966]

Is anyone who was able to find this having problems? Mine freezes up about an hour into the movie.

[jarofclay73]

Originally posted by Commander Dan
Because of my work schedule, I have simply not had a chance to look at other retailers. I am planning to go check at Best Buy and another Wal-Mart today (I’ll hit Circuit City too if I have the time), but I’m not holding my breath at this point.

I wouldn't bother with Circuit City. The computer won't let you buy it and even the store manager can't do anything about it.

Borders was cool. They had no clue.

And I haven't watched the whole movie yet but no problems so far on my JVC XV-523GD.

[Y2J850]

i bought mine tonight after work at walmart and got home an the 1st disc was loose but nothingdamaged to bad. But there was no insert.
This is the 1st star trek SE i have bought so far, and was wondering if the other star trek SE's also do not have any inserts. This ticks me off that there is no insert even for a SE dvd.

[Cartload]

Star Trek: The Motion Picture through Star Trek V had inserts. By the time VI came out, Paramount had stopped putting inserts in their releases.

[HighSpeedOnIce]

I finally watched this disc yesterday and was pretty iimpressed by the DTS track . . . WAY better than the SE Star Trek discs. :)

I watched about two hours of the special features and again, was impressed by the content. Although I'm not sure why: the alternate ending they showed was from an unfinished print.
They said that they screened the film for a test audience then felt by their reaction, (or lack of), that they needed to change it. Wouldn't it seem that they should have included a finished print?

As it was, the ending was pretty bad and rightly changed, but I guess that just puzzled me a bit.
I've picked up all the Trek SE movies so far and although I don't want to pick a favorite, this disc certain made an impression. ;)

Oh yeah . . . (back on topic) . . . K-Mart $14.99

[trammel]

Originally posted by mikej
Found this at BJ's as well for $11.99. I just picked up a copy at BJ's too. They had about a dozen copies.

[Hermey the Elf]

Got it at Circuit City in Fort Lauderdale (US 1, near Sunrise Blvd). Customer service had to ring it up, and they could only ring it up as a "service charge," not the actual DVD. Still some left in the sci-fi section (not in "new releases"). It's in the sale flyer this week, so make sure you have that with you during check-out because this totally confused the customer service wenches.

Peace and Love,

Hermey the Elf

[Star Wars Guy]

Originally posted by Joe Molotov
So has anyone who wanted it NOT been able to find it yet?

...raises hand....

Looked in two cities worth of stores - Circuit City, Best Buy, & Walmart - not a copy to be found. Circuits & BBs both cited memos they got telling them to not put them out. Walmarts said they never had them.

But if they'll be out in 3 weeks, I can wait.

[Defiant1]

So has anyone who wanted it NOT been able to find it yet?

Me. I saw it at my local Future Shop on Tuesday but didn't buy it as I was waiting for an unadvertised sale at Best Buy today. Lo an behold, BB didn't have it and FS had pulled it from the shelves when I went back. To top it all off, amazon.ca jacked the price up another $1.50 (although they say they ship within 3-4 days). I guess I'll have to wait until the 28th.

[island007]

Still Looking :wave:

[0rac]

Found some at my local Media Play

I just wanted the commentary for this and at times it seems like the writters hated this movie and something they didn't even get.
They didn't seem to know for sure if Kirk was in the Nexas(sp?) for 80 years or just got there. They say in the movie he just got there, that there is no time in the Nexas (SP?)

[Slowpc]

Went online to borders on wed. night last week and was able to pick mine up at the local store with no problems. Brought mine into work and the boss went to the barnes and nobles nearby and got his too with no problem. Since then, no sighting anywhere else.

(I know a few stores pulled it around here)

[trickle_on]

My copy just shipped today.

:)

[Shannon Nutt]

Originally posted by 0rac
Found some at my local Media Play

I just wanted the commentary for this and at times it seems like the writters hated this movie and something they didn't even get.
They didn't seem to know for sure if Kirk was in the Nexas(sp?) for 80 years or just got there. They say in the movie he just got there, that there is no time in the Nexas (SP?)

Well, Whoopi does a voice over that says from Kirk's perspective it was as if he just got there...but that voice over seems like something they had her add in post production rather than part of the script. Probably added after screening audiences couldn't figure it out either!

[darmok]

when Rick Berman introduces the alternate ending, he tries to cover up the fact by saying at first that the decision to change the ending wasn't due to a test audience, but then immediately backtracked and said there was the test audience. by now, he could've gotten his excuse straight before the camera rolled. ha ha.

[Shannon Nutt]

Originally posted by darmok
when Rick Berman introduces the alternate ending, he tries to cover up the fact by saying at first that the decision to change the ending wasn't due to a test audience, but then immediately backtracked and said there was the test audience. by now, he could've gotten his excuse straight before the camera rolled. ha ha.

If only Berman would have realized that he would have had a better film if he hadn't killed Kirk at all! But that's what the series turned into - either kill off a character or blow up the ship (or in the case of Generations - do both!). Leonard Nimoy and Harve Bennett should have copyrighted Spock's death scene and when they blew up the Enterprise. :)

[Green Jello]

Just saw copies at Borders in Reno, NV

[raven56706]

Anyone know where i can get the trailers online?

[darmok]

my local BB put them out (again) yesterday....they all had the incorrect sleeve.

[Ejunior2]

I noticed a lot of the on-line stores showing 9/28/04 as the release date now.

But not DVDsoon.com who has had mine on Pending since the original release date. Is there any official word?

[WhFastus]

Originally posted by Shannon Nutt
If only Berman would have realized that he would have had a better film if he hadn't killed Kirk at all! But that's what the series turned into - either kill off a character or blow up the ship (or in the case of Generations - do both!). Leonard Nimoy and Harve Bennett should have copyrighted Spock's death scene and when they blew up the Enterprise. :)

It is interesting that in 3 of the 4 Next Generation films, the Enterprise is either actually destroyed (Generations) or Captain Picard activates (First Contact) or attempts to activate (Nemesis) the self-destruct system.

In contrast, the only one of the six Original Cast movies where the Enterprise is destroyed is Search For Spock. That's also the only one where the self-destruct system is used. Though granted, they crash their commandeered Klingon Bird of Prey in San Francisco Bay at the end of Voyage Home.

Edward

[milo bloom]

Where in the special features list on the back are the trailers listed? I just saw this at Wal-Mart for $14.44, and I didn't see the trailers anywhere on the back.

[J.P.V.]

Originally posted by milo bloom
Where in the special features list on the back are the trailers listed? I just saw this at Wal-Mart for $14.44, and I didn't see the trailers anywhere on the back.

Click the coverart and you'll see it. http://www.laserdisken.dk/html/visvare.dna?vare=10884205611720241

Perhaps you bought the new version.

[milo bloom]

Originally posted by J.P.V.
Click the coverart and you'll see it. http://www.laserdisken.dk/html/visvare.dna?vare=10884205611720241

Perhaps you bought the new version.

I didn't get it because I wasn't sure, but comparing to that link, it's the new ones. The lower right column now has a blank space where it says trailers in that picture there.

[Joe Molotov]

Okay, so I guess Generations is now officially out. Now when do we get First Contact? ;)




No seriously, when?

[Rammsteinfan]

Prob around Feb-May next year?

[obladioblada]

Yep. New editions are at my local WalMart too. $14.44 not bad. No trailers (dont care) just glad to finally have it. Good price to.

[Rooked]

So has anyone found this anywhere in the SF Bay Area??

[Rockmjd23]

the retards in the warehouse at my BB store never sent back the recalled ones, and we didnt get in the correct new ones so we just put out the old ones on the shelf.

[Rockmjd23]

the retards in the warehouse at my BB store never sent back the recalled ones, and we didnt get in the correct new ones so we just put out the old ones on the shelf.

[Defiant1]

Well, I finally got it today. It's now selling for $5 more than when I saw it (briefly) on the shelves back on Sept. 7th which kind of pissed me off.

I didn't know what edge enhancement was but I sure do now! Data's face in particular is a shimmery mess and all sorts of backround stuff is very "edgy" looking (the computer graphics on the Enterprise monitors, various rails and fences, the orbital paths of the planets in the Stellar Cartography room, etc.). I only have a 34" widescreen TV so I can't imagine what it's like on a giant projector.

Other than that though, the picture quality is very nice (the colours are great) and the DTS track is terrific. Great audio commentary too.

Question - which audio track is better? Generations' DTS or Nemesis Dolby 5.1?

[freudian-slip]

I got mine yesterday at walmart for $14.44 as well...

question - mine didn't have an insert. Was I supposed to get one, or were they cheap and didn't print a liner??

Thanks.

[Cartload]

Paramount doesn't put inserts in their DVDs anymore.

[freudian-slip]

Man, that's lame! So, my ST IV has an insert, but the rest won't. (I skipped V). That's lame.

Thanks for the quick reply.

[MvRojo]

Originally posted by freudian-slip
Man, that's lame! So, my ST IV has an insert, but the rest won't. (I skipped V). That's lame.

Thanks for the quick reply.

All of them up to Star Trek V had inserts, but after that they don't. It's a trend by the studios to move away from having inserts.

[freudian-slip]

Interesting. So, am I the only one disappointed by this move?

[buckee1]

No, you are not the only one. I think we'd all like Paramount to show some consistencey regarding their inserts.