Unless Grindhouse 'delays' yet again,they are aiming for an early 2005 release.
Check it out here................
http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=2728
September 1: Grindhouse gearing up CANNIBAL and PIECES DVDs
Bob Murawski of Grindhouse Entertainment just gave Fango the word that the long-anticipated special-edition DVD of Ruggero Deodato’s CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST (pictured) is nearing completion for release in the first half of 2005. And Murawski promises it’ll be worth the wait. “It’s going to be a two-disc super-deluxe set for the movie’s 25th anniversary,” he tells us. “It’s going to have a 16x9-enhanced digital transfer, plus we’ve remixed the movie with all the original stereo music, plus the original mono track will be there for the purists. We’ve got audio commentary by Deodato and the star, Robert Kerman, a lot of interviews with Deodato, Kerman and many of the cast and crew, plus the usual trailers and still galleries and other great stuff, and liner notes by Chas. Balun.
“It’s good to finally be getting this thing out,” Murawski adds. And what was behind the delay? “SPIDER-MAN and SPIDER-MAN 2, that’s really been it,” he says of the Sam Raimi superhero spectaculars on which he served as editor. “For the last couple of months on the sequel, it was seven days a week, so there wasn’t a lot of time. And on CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST we had a lot of technical problems, like getting the proper elements from Rome, dealing with the labs and getting prints that were sufficient, and there were difficulties with the sound as well, getting the separate dialogue, music and effects tracks to do the mix. Before I started SPIDER-MAN 2 I was probably 80 percent done with CANNIBAL, but it was impossible to do both at the same time.”
Murawski also reveals that he’s deep into another DVD project that should warm the hearts of Eurogorehounds everywhere: a special edition of Juan Piquer Simon’s chainsaw extravaganza PIECES. “We’ve got a new hi-def digital transfer for that, and we’re remastering the sound,” he reveals. “We’re in communication with Juan Piquer, who apparently has a huge amount of material that was never in the movie, deleted scenes, publicity material and all kinds of great stuff. So we’re going to interview him and get him to do a commentary, and it’s going to be a definitive release of that movie. I love PIECES; I actually drove 60 miles to see it when it first came out, and was not disappointed. It’s one of those movies that fully delivers on every promise that’s made on the one-sheet. ‘It’s exactly what you think it is!’ ”
Several other titles are in the works at Grindhouse, including a DVD of Lucio Fulci’s CAT IN THE BRAIN (which the company previously issued on laserdisc). No exact street dates have been set yet: “We’re in the process of making deals with some distributors to put them out,” Murawski reports. “Hopefully, we’ll get them all with one company.” And while he’s not working on the Raimi-produced THE GRUDGE, Murawski does reveal a cool bit of news on the October 22 release: It’s being scored by Christopher Young, the gifted composer whose genre credits include the first two HELLRAISER movies, THE DARK HALF, TALES FROM THE HOOD, SPECIES, URBAN LEGEND and BLESS THE CHILD. —Michael Gingold
asianxcore
09-02-04, 12:03 AM
good news!
I am still kicking myself for not getting that 2 disc french version of Cannibal Holocaust when I was in Europe over the summer.
emhello
09-02-04, 12:47 AM
I saw 'pieces' when it came out originally in the theater. Funny movie! :)
TomOpus
09-02-04, 12:54 AM
Very cool news... especially about Pieces. I've had the unrated disc but the quality made me long for VHS again.
Digital Groove
09-02-04, 02:01 AM
Thank god, I've been waiting a couple years now for this. I held out on importing a non-Region 1 copy.
DBP
09-02-04, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by asianxcore
good news!
I am still kicking myself for not getting that 2 disc french version of Cannibal Holocaust when I was in Europe over the summer.
Well you can give your shins a rest, because the French release - taken from the Italian remastering before it - is missing footage anyway.
So far only the third Dutch EC Entertainment release has been uncut and complete, although that had a few faults of its own. Hopefully Grindhouse will get everything right.
Hopefully...
steebo777
09-02-04, 08:01 AM
Hey oh!!!! This is wonderful news :D
SuperNova
09-02-04, 09:12 AM
Really great news. I own the Alan Young Pictures release which has the forced subtitles. The transfer is amazing, but at times too bright. Anyway awesome to hear. :)
Mountain Biker
09-02-04, 09:25 AM
Great news about Pieces - will definitely be picking that one up.
Mondo Kane
09-02-04, 12:49 PM
About Friggin' time!
Plus Cat in the Brain?!?!
:thumbsup:
Good to see that Grindhouse Releasing is alive and well.
Johnny Zhivago
09-02-04, 01:07 PM
:up: 'bout time!
Giles
09-02-04, 03:00 PM
well what made Image relinquish it's rights to Cat in the Brain?
ah Pieces, the bastion of hideous looking DVD's, the $6 edition I picked up month's ago, is hands the worst DVD I have ever seen, the print looks like fourth generation VHS and got run over by a lawnmower in the process as well, thank god for a new and improved future version.
okay, in regards to Cannibal Holocaust - damnit and I just recently bought the EC Entertainment double disc edition. Do you think we'll finally hear about the legendary deleted "piranha feeding' sequence with the promised commentary track - hmmm, I hope so?
Chad
09-02-04, 03:36 PM
Good to hear about Pieces and Cat in the Brain. :up:
I've never seen Cannibal Holocaust, and even though I don't think it would warrant a purchase for me, I would definitely want to check it out as a rental.
cultshock
09-02-04, 06:37 PM
Finally! Good news. :up:
Sex Fiend
09-02-04, 07:24 PM
Pieces... awesome ! I've been waiting for a decent release of this since I first started collecting DVD's. I had almost gotten to the point of caving in and buying the current crapola release, since this is one of the few 80's cheeseball horror flicks missing from my extensive cheeseball 80's horror flick collection.
gutwrencher
09-02-04, 09:46 PM
guess I'm triple-dipping for CH.:thumbsup:
Sunday Morning
09-03-04, 12:25 AM
I can't remember, does the EC 2 disc version have the same features?
Leechboy
09-03-04, 12:56 AM
Are any B & M's going to carry this. I would love for some soccer mom to buy this for their 10 year old son.
Rockmjd23
09-03-04, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Giles
okay, in regards to Cannibal Holocaust - damnit and I just recently bought the EC Entertainment double disc edition. Do you think we'll finally hear about the legendary deleted "piranha feeding' sequence with the promised commentary track - hmmm, I hope so?
the piranha scene was supposedly never filmed, just photographed
steebo777
09-03-04, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Leechboy
Are any B & M's going to carry this. I would love for some soccer mom to buy this for their 10 year old son.
That would be awesome. I need to get a job at BB for the sole purpose of making this happen. ;)
malkmuz
09-03-04, 11:03 AM
:consume: :consume: :consume:
for once, holding out pays off. i love you, grindhouse! now wheres an american hippie in israel?! i've been wanting that since seeing the trailer on the i drink your blood disc :lol:
cverneau
10-20-04, 12:54 PM
Should I hold off and wait for this new version??
I just received an e-mail from HKFlix where they're having a sale and selling the EC Entertainment version for $12.95.
Here's the link:
http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.529560/qx/details.htm
That's not a bad price - $18.00 shipped.
What do people here think??
Norm de Plume
10-20-04, 01:16 PM
Isn't Grindhouse co-owned by Stallone's son?
Quatermass
10-20-04, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by cverneau
Should I hold off and wait for this new version??
I just received an e-mail from HKFlix where they're having a sale and selling the EC Entertainment version for $12.95.
Here's the link:
http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.529560/aid.007782/aid.007782/qx/details.htm
That's not a bad price - $18.00 shipped.
What do people here think??
I just ordered one. If the Grindhouse version never materializes, I'll at least have this one (which may turn out to be better anyway). The First half of 2005 could be as much as 8 months away and a lot could happen in that time frame. Like you said, it's a good price. I also got a copy of Synapse's "Blue Sunshine" which is OOP, but still available at Amazon and a couple of other places. It was on sale for 13.95. I Highly recommended it.
Thanks for the tip.
scott1598
10-20-04, 01:55 PM
will this US version be completely uncut and just like the 2-discer that Xploited Cinema.com has?
http://www.xploitedcinema.com/images/dvds/cannibal_holocaust_2.jpg
asianxcore
10-20-04, 02:37 PM
that version that hkflix is selling, isn't that one missing footage?
dullboy
10-20-04, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by asianxcore
that version that hkflix is selling, isn't that one missing footage?
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=1709
cultshock
10-20-04, 05:24 PM
Isn't Grindhouse co-owned by Stallone's son?
Yup, I believe so.
scott1598
02-06-05, 02:40 PM
Is there any more definitive news on when this will be released?
cultshock
02-06-05, 02:54 PM
Supposedly it's now coming in the first half of this year. It was put on hold for awhile due to working on SPIDER-MAN 2, but now Sage Stallone and Bob Murawski of Grindhouse are working full time on the disc so it can finally be released.
More info (including posts from Stallone) can be found here:
Supposedly it's now coming in the first half of this year. It was put on hold for awhile due to working on SPIDER-MAN 2, but now Sage Stallone and Bob Murawski of Grindhouse are working full time on the disc so it can finally be released.
More info (including posts from Stallone) can be found here:
http://www.dvdmaniacs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11262
so no date huh? too bad. i like the concrete.
natevines
02-08-05, 08:22 PM
Maybe I should sell my EC ultrabit 2-disc, even though there are only 4000 copies of the world. I know that this version is the only absolutely complete version with the uncut road to hell sequence; I hope the grindhouse release is as complete as the EC, and looks even better.
cinephan
02-08-05, 08:38 PM
Sage Stallone? Sylvester's son?
natevines
02-08-05, 08:39 PM
Errr, wasn't that already asked in this thread?
Yes, he's Sly's son.
Julie Walker
02-08-05, 11:17 PM
This had better be released durring the first half of this year(or at least be released this year!).
I will buy it immediately,since who knows how many copies will be printed,and how 'easy' it will be too find.
TomOpus
02-08-05, 11:36 PM
http://www.dvdmaniacs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11262Wow.... I got all tingly reading about work being done on Cat in the Brain and, finally, a new transfer and extras for Pieces.
gutwrencher
02-08-05, 11:41 PM
Wow.... I got all tingly reading about work being done on Cat in the Brain......
Yeah, my import foolscreen dvd is ok, but.......
..would love a fresh domestic of this.:thumbsup:
Mondo Kane
05-29-05, 04:26 PM
So are we nearing the end of the "first half of the year"yet?
BTW, I finally saw the movie a few nights ago for the first time and I have to admit, this was a better-made movie than I thought it would be. I can't wait to check out the commentary for this.
The Bus
05-29-05, 04:28 PM
Waiting for it here too...
scott1598
05-29-05, 06:46 PM
anyone have more info on a date?
Mondo Kane
05-30-05, 01:56 AM
According to Netflix, it'll be available on the 31st this month. Don't know if that's the Grindhouse version.
steebo777
06-01-05, 08:42 AM
Man I need to see this again. It's been a few years... give it to me on DVD already!!!
prince_of_saturn
06-01-05, 05:05 PM
i hope it turns out to be a success for them!
Giles
06-07-05, 11:03 AM
According to Netflix, it'll be available on the 31st this month. Don't know if that's the Grindhouse version.
and....??....
Mondo Kane
06-07-05, 01:13 PM
and....??....
"Very long wait" :brickwl2:
Quatermass
06-07-05, 03:12 PM
I'm glad I bought the Dutch R0 about 9 months ago from HKFlix. I can vouch for this version - it looks really good. I think it was only $12.95 and I really can live without the 3 seconds of missing footage. It wasn't that the footage was censored or "too gruesome" anyway, it was supposedly damaged film they didn't have in the original source negative. If the Grindhouse version ever materializes, I might double-dip, but it would have to be fairly cheap.
Mondo Kane
06-07-05, 04:31 PM
Over at the IMDB boards, those who have recieved their netflix rentals say that it's the uncut, OOP Canadian copy. Still no sign of the Grindhouse version yet.
Rockmjd23
08-06-05, 10:30 PM
Grindhouse edition is now listed on Dvdaficionado.com as having a release date of 10/25/05
Julie Walker
08-07-05, 12:01 AM
Yep check out http://www.CannibalHolocaust.net for some information. It's not 100% updated yet...since the official annoucement will be out shortly. But skim some forums,like dvdmaniacs.net for example(where the guys from Grindhouse post) and you'll find a hint of what the dvd will contain.
I can't wait for the release,since it's been a long time coming. And to make things truly special. There will be a midnight showing here in MN on October 1st. You bet your ass I will not be missing this(I hope)...since I missed it back when they aired in it 2001.
NEUMANN
08-07-05, 02:56 AM
Yep check out http://www.CannibalHolocaust.net for some information. It's not 100% updated yet...since the official annoucement will be out shortly. But skim some forums,like dvdmaniacs.net for example(where the guys from Grindhouse post) and you'll find a hint of what the dvd will contain.
I can't wait for the release,since it's been a long time coming. And to make things truly special. There will be a midnight showing here in MN on October 1st. You bet your ass I will not be missing this(I hope)...since I missed it back when they aired in it 2001.
What Theatre is this playin at on October 1st?
Julie Walker
08-07-05, 05:03 AM
Uptown
Rockmjd23
08-07-05, 07:05 AM
You bet your ass I will not be missing this(I hope)...since I missed it back when they aired in it 2001.
I missed it when it was in Brookline, MA bothin 01 and 02 :hairpull:
Leon Liew
08-08-05, 01:23 AM
Have the VCD of Cannibal Holocaust.Hope to get the DVD once its release.
steebo777
08-10-05, 10:25 AM
Yeah!!! I hope this comes out for Halloween. What a great flick for a Halloween Film Fest.
scott1598
08-10-05, 11:19 AM
anyone have any more of a definitive date if this is even being released?
asianxcore
08-10-05, 08:31 PM
hope the DVD comes out soon. I've been holding out on all the other versions available.
Julie Walker
08-10-05, 10:12 PM
I'm sure the dvd will come out on October 25th. The guys from Grindhouse would not give out a release date,unless it were coming out. Now if they had said "It should be out this year",you can bet your ass it won't be coming out anytime soon;)
You can email the guys from Grindhouse yourself at Grindhouse@AOL.com and ask about the release date yourself:D
dullboy
08-12-05, 10:53 AM
I'm sure the dvd will come out on October 25th.
Yeah, well now there's more to worry about. From Fangoria:
August 11: CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST DVD battles censors
Grindhouse Releasing finally has a date for its uncut CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST DVD—October 25—but censorship problems may delay the release of the 1979 Ruggero Deodato gore spectacular. Grindhouse’s Sage Stallone and Bob Murawski have run into a potential distribution roadblock due to their “graphic and offensive” packaging of the notorious Italian flick.
With scant months remaining before the debut of HOLOCAUST’s 25th Anniversary Collector’s Edition (see previous item here), two major printers have refused to handle artwork for the disc. While the DVD is set for nationwide distribution through Rykodisc, the printing obstacle is causing last-minute panic for Grindhouse in light of the Halloween street date. The art in question is not even featured on the DVD’s outer sleeve; in fact, Grindhouse deliberately designed the disc’s display packaging to shield sensitive eyes from the potentially disturbing imagery within.
“Simply put, everything we came up with was deemed too offensive, or something that would cause us to automatically forfeit precious retail shelf space at this moment in time when chain stores are being busted for selling violent video games,” says Murawski in a statement. “The real cover, the one that compromises in no way, shape or form, is the cover of the Deluxe Signature Case within the sleeve—one with an image that no other release of CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST has had the guts to use. And this is the cover that no printer in this supposedly free country will print.”
The first indication of trouble cropped up earlier this month, when a printer arbitrarily decided not to handle any artwork associated with CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST—including the deliberately “inoffensive” outer slipcase, which simply depicts a screaming face captured within a camera lens. When Murawski suggested that the cover image was “tame,” especially by comparison to other DVD titles handled by the same printing facility, a printer’s representative refused to discuss the reason behind the ban. Rushing the artwork to a second printer, Murawski met with a similar response. Management reviewed the “offensive” images and declined to print the CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST art unless Grindhouse revised the graphic design. No specific notes were submitted with the rejection, but objections most likely centered on the inner-sleeve reproduction of the notorious scene featuring a naked woman’s body impaled on a wooden stake.
Stallone and Murawski steadfastly refuse to change the artwork or compromise the disc in any way. Grindhouse has been working on the CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST DVD for over five years, battling many obstacles, from bootleggers illegally selling inferior copies of the movie to the threatened seizure of a 35mm film print by town officials in Lexington, Kentucky.
“Despite the cowardly and hypocritical actions of these censors, we will not back down,” says Stallone in a statement. “This latest incident only confirms the power of CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST to disturb and shock audiences. We believe the public should have the right to view this DVD in its uncensored form with the deluxe packaging intact. A couple of hypersensitive printers are not going to stop us from realizing our vision and giving consumers the best possible product.”
scott shelton
08-12-05, 11:37 AM
Could this be a publicity stunt?
keps
08-12-05, 11:54 AM
I haven't seen this film in years but would definitely consider purchasing it if a better version is released on Region 1 DVD. I don't have an all region player so importing at the moment is not really an option for me .. but eventually I would like to purchase an all region player
Giles
08-12-05, 12:35 PM
No specific notes were submitted with the rejection, but objections most likely centered on the inner-sleeve reproduction of the notorious scene featuring a naked woman’s body impaled on a wooden stake.
why doesn't this surprise me.
dullboy
08-12-05, 12:48 PM
But that image was on the cover of the first EC disc that I have (although not an actual photo from the film). Couldn't they go to a printer out of country? I can't quite remember, but wasn't the image of the woman hanging by hooks from her breasts used somewhere on the insert from Grindhouse's Cannibal Ferox?
cultshock
08-12-05, 01:01 PM
But that image was on the cover of the first EC disc that I have (although not an actual photo from the film).
Yeah, I was originally thinking that the impaled woman was the problem image, but then I read this:
“The real cover, the one that compromises in no way, shape or form, is the cover of the Deluxe Signature Case within the sleeve—one with an image that no other release of CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST has had the guts to use. And this is the cover that no printer in this supposedly free country will print.”
The near iconic impaled woman image has definitely been used on past VHS/DVD releases, so maybe the problem is something else. Or, like you mention, maybe an actual close up still of the scene is used instead of artwork.
Giles
08-12-05, 01:02 PM
Couldn't they go to a printer out of country?
wouldn't that hike up the MSRP if they did that?
cultshock
08-12-05, 01:05 PM
Or what if US Customs tried to declare the returning shipment of foreign printed covers as obscene and refused to allow them to be imported. :lol: (highly unlikely I know, but weirder things have happened)
dullboy
08-12-05, 01:18 PM
Yeah, I guess that the image in question is something entirely different than the impaled woman, but there has to be someone out there that will print it, and of all places on the inside of a keepcase! I mean, who the hell is printing the limited edition covers of Aftermath?
And if it ups the MSRP for it if they go out of country, or if you can only buy it online, so be it.
Giles
08-12-05, 01:58 PM
okay, you know what dullboy, tell the administrator or someone to edit the title of this thread to include (WARNING: graphic images) in the title - cause I'm here at work - okay! (ugh, yuck!)
don't know if that is a boot or not, but that release has the image of the impaled woman on the cover. also I can't remember but wasn't the impaled woman image used on the back of last years 2 disc French release?
I really hope this whole printing issue gets fixed, I'm tired of waiting for this DVD :)
don't know if that is a boot or not, but that release has the image of the impaled woman on the cover. also I can't remember but wasn't the impaled woman image used on the back of last years 2 disc French release?
I really hope this whole printing issue gets fixed, I'm tired of waiting for this DVD :)
oh go ahead and image this puppy out for all those who aren't familiar with the 'controversial image'
August 23rd. But don't look for it in any B&M stores. Online only. (Although, I have a friend who is ordering it for the independent store he works at, and I think I'll get it that way. I don't mind the original cover. Actually like it better than the disgusting one shown a few posts up. I'd rather have my gore safely tucked away in the movie.)
Julie Walker
08-12-05, 03:56 PM
From what I gather about Aftermath is the 'graphic' version is a flip cover. So the cool and more attractive artwork cover is on the front. But supposedly some retailers/printers wouldn't carry,nor stock the dvd with the 'graphic' flip cover. I find that rather pathetic actually. Since it's not like it is the main cover and viewable to the public!
And frankly,I would have prefered a graphic artwork cover,instead of a graphic stlll photo. The graphic still is disgusting and makes me want to puke...and NOT see the film. Meanwhile a graphic artwork cover would catch my eye with "Hmm,this looks like it might be interesting".
So I prefer the 'tame' artwork cover they are using. It's really awesome and something that jumps off the shelf at me.
dullboy
08-12-05, 04:00 PM
Guess I'll find out when my friend gets it in for his store in a few days.
And I agree with you, Julie, about graphic art being more attractive than a graphic still.
bboisvert
08-12-05, 04:03 PM
So we can include images of genitalia now, just as long as we include a warning in our titles? Cool... (heads off to Otter...)
Rockmjd23
08-12-05, 04:03 PM
Sorry to stray off-topic, but are those Aftermath images special effects or actual autopsy footage?
cultshock
08-13-05, 12:45 AM
Sorry to stray off-topic, but are those Aftermath images special effects or actual autopsy footage?
It's just special effects. I am surprised, however, that the powers that be have allowed the pics to remain in this thread. :lol:
Shagrath
09-06-05, 08:06 AM
Banned and heavily censored throughout the world, Ruggero Deodato's notorious 1979 film Cannibal Holocaust - one of the most controversial movies ever made - finally arrives onto DVD on October 25th from Grindhouse Releasing. This deluxe 25th Anniversary Collector's Edition boasts a brand-new anamorphic widescreen transfer of the uncensored director's cut from a high definition digital restoration, along with a Dolby Digital Stereo remix and original Mono tracks. Extras on the two-disc set include an audio commentary with director Ruggero Deodato and star Robert Kerman, "The Making of Cannibal Holocaust" hour-long Italian documentary featuring rare behind-the-scenes footage, exclusive on-camera interviews with Deodato, Kerman and co-star Gabriel Yorke, original theatrical trailers, stills and poster art galleries, the original shooting script, "Necrophagia" music video, liner notes by horror journalist Chas. Balun and more. Limited to 10,000 sets, retail will be $29.95.
credit goes to davisdvd
ShagMan
09-06-05, 09:03 AM
OK, is this gonna be at any major retailers, or is this still gonna be a special order item from some wholesaler somewhere?
scott1598
09-06-05, 10:43 AM
that is some sweet cover art. i too would like to know if this will be anywhere easy enough to get?
http://images.dvdempire.com/gen/movies/746073h.jpg
dullboy
09-06-05, 11:51 AM
I wonder if that "special" image made it onto the insert.
Rockmjd23
09-06-05, 11:53 AM
Dvd Empire and Cduniverse both have it up for pre-order
Julie Walker
09-06-05, 02:15 PM
Awesome,I'll definitely be picking up this release immediately:)
Rockmjd23
09-06-05, 02:31 PM
http://fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=4653
September 6: Deodato's CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST sequel update
Speaking at the Festival of Fantastic Films in Manchester, England, CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST director Ruggero Deodato reveals that he has a title for his sequel to the 1980 gorefest (which he first discussed here). The original (pictured) hits DVD in a two-disc special edition—with an option to view with or without the notorious scenes of animal violence—from Grindhouse Releasing October 25 (see previous item here), and the filmmaker hopes that he will be able to launch the follow-up soon. He reveals that he has finished a script, and that the movie will be set in present-day Rome.
“It is a very strong story, and is completely different from the first movie,” the director tells Fango. “It is set in the city and it is about how different everything is now. Once, in Rome, it was only Roman people, but today it is also Chinese, Indian, Bangladeshi, Russian, South American—it is mixed, just like in London. For Roman people, it is very strange, but this change is a good thing, I like it. You see, it is incredible to see one street that is all Chinese. It is just like BLADE RUNNER now—if you remember, in that film there are [parts of the city] that are all Chinese shops. So I wrote one story about this cultural change, and I hope that it is possible to shoot this movie. I call it CANNIBAL METROPOLITANA [possibly translated as CANNIBAL METROPOLIS].”
Currently, however, Deodato is tied up until February shooting a series for Italian television, working a demanding five-day week. The show, a fictional story set in Rome of the past, will premiere on Italian television before the end of 2005. —Calum Waddell
So, apparently there's a way to watch the movie without the animal killings.
steebo777
09-06-05, 02:54 PM
This set is going to rule :)
Johnny Zhivago
09-06-05, 04:04 PM
> <i>"Limited to 10,000 sets"</i>
:hscratch:
Quatermass
09-06-05, 05:49 PM
> <i>"Limited to 10,000 sets"</i>
:hscratch:
I thought the same thing. All the delays and crap they went through for this and they are only going to sell 10,000?
Also, they keep touting it as uncut, complete, unexpurgated, etc yet they are going to include an optional "edited" version - strange. Sadly, I'm a sucker for Limited Editions, so I'll probably double dip on this one.
Patrick Mirza
09-06-05, 07:50 PM
I've tried emailing the people at Grindhouse about that "10,000" units... I found it odd as well that they go to all the trouble for such a low print run.
Maybe it's 100,000 units...? Or maybe it truly is going to be a collector's item at just 10,000. Hopefully they'll get back to me with an answer.
Leon Liew
09-06-05, 11:59 PM
Well just place my pre-order copy from The Laser's Edge. Anyway I have the VCD version will just give it a go to refresh the movie first.
Julie Walker
09-07-05, 02:02 AM
Since Grindhouse is a very small company with a very limited budget. Maybe this is all they could afford to make?
They released I Drink Your Blood in an extremely limited 500 print run. But then months later,or about a year later. Fangoria picked up the distribution rights and made it more widely available.
Maybe the same thing will happen with this film?
Though I wonder who will actually choose to view the film without the animal violence? I'd find that hypocritical since there is still some real human deaths shown durring the 'Road To Hell' documentary footage section. Any sensible person would either A-close there eyes durring the sequences..or B-not watch the film in the first place.
Peep
09-07-05, 04:33 AM
Though I wonder who will actually choose to view the film without the animal violence? I'd find that hypocritical since there is still some real human deaths shown durring the 'Road To Hell' documentary footage section. Any sensible person would either A-close there eyes durring the sequences..or B-not watch the film in the first place.
I'm sure I'm full of crap, but I thought that I read somewhere (or maybe heard it on a foreign commentary) that the animal violence was added after the fact, without the director's permission. If what happened is anything like that, maybe it's worth skipping the tacked on scenes.
cultshock
09-07-05, 12:30 PM
Maybe it's 100,000 units...?
I really doubt that a film like this could sell anything close to 100,000 units. The fans of this type of film really represent a niche market. Sure all of us in this thread are chomping at the bit to buy this, but we are truly in the minority. It could probably do better than sales of 10,000, but not 100,000.
Though I wonder who will actually choose to view the film without the animal violence?
You'd be surprised about how many people who are fans of extreme/gory horror films but are sensitive to real animal violence. I've read more than one review of CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST where the reviewer (who normally reviews films like this) admitted that he had to look away during the animal scenes. For me, it's easy to watch a woman impaled on a stake and know it's a cleverly done fake, but seeing a big turtle ripped apart for real is more problematic (although I can watch it). I guess it's probably even worse if you're an animal lover.
cultshock
09-07-05, 12:35 PM
I'm sure I'm full of crap, but I thought that I read somewhere (or maybe heard it on a foreign commentary) that the animal violence was added after the fact, without the director's permission. If what happened is anything like that, maybe it's worth skipping the tacked on scenes.
Nah, you're full of crap. ;) Deodato was involved in the filming. It's kind of clever actually. By having scenes of real animal violence, it possibly disorients the audience, and makes the rest of the film seem like it is depicting real events. One might start thinking "Wow, if that animal scene is real, scenes involving human violence could be too". Especially in this day and age, where you just don't see scenes of animals getting hurt or killed for real in films.
joliom
09-07-05, 01:07 PM
http://fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=4653
Speaking at the Festival of Fantastic Films in Manchester, England, CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST director Ruggero Deodato reveals that he has a title for his sequel to the 1980 gorefest (which he first discussed here). The original (pictured) hits DVD in a two-disc special edition—with an option to view with or without the notorious scenes of animal violence—from Grindhouse Releasing October 25 (see previous item here), and the filmmaker hopes that he will be able to launch the follow-up soon. He reveals that he has finished a script, and that the movie will be set in present-day Rome.
“It is a very strong story, and is completely different from the first movie,” the director tells Fango. “It is set in the city and it is about how different everything is now. Once, in Rome, it was only Roman people, but today it is also Chinese, Indian, Bangladeshi, Russian, South American—it is mixed, just like in London. For Roman people, it is very strange, but this change is a good thing, I like it. You see, it is incredible to see one street that is all Chinese. It is just like BLADE RUNNER now—if you remember, in that film there are [parts of the city] that are all Chinese shops. So I wrote one story about this cultural change, and I hope that it is possible to shoot this movie. I call it CANNIBAL METROPOLITANA [possibly translated as CANNIBAL METROPOLIS].”
Currently, however, Deodato is tied up until February shooting a series for Italian television, working a demanding five-day week. The show, a fictional story set in Rome of the past, will premiere on Italian television before the end of 2005. —Calum Waddell
Is he serious? There have been "Chinatowns" and the like in Western cities for centuries. He talks as if it's some weird new phenomenon to have large ethnic subcommunities in existence in metropolitan centers. Ancient Rome was full of them. It's hardly a boldly original concept first presented to the world in Blade Runner.
Julie Walker
09-07-05, 02:28 PM
Cult the thing I do not get regarding peoples reactions to the animal violence is as I mentioned. You still see real humans being murdered for [/B] real durring the 'Last Road To Hell' segment!
How can that be more 'tolerable' to view than the animal violence? Since that stuff will still be intact even if the animal stuff is deleted if they choose to watch the 'non-animal violent' version.
I myself find both real animal violence,as well as real violence against humans just as disturbing and terrible. Yet it seems other people are more 'ok' with seeing real dead bodies,than they are animals. Let alone an animal being killed,over a human being. I find that rather disturbing and very wrong.
A good example of how easy it is for me to get upset over real human death is Hurricane Katrina. When I was getting ready for work yesturday and eating dinner. My mom had Oprah on and they were showing plenty of footage the news networks didn't cover since it was 'upsetting'. They showed rotting dead bodies laying in the street,young and old people,dead bodies floating in the flood waters contaminating it. Graphic descriptions from a doctor what rigimortis is and so forth. Then add in the footage of young months old babies dehydrated,as well as older people starving,with great chances of dying sooner or later. It was very heart breaking to see,and disturbing,but I think it should not be 'censored' by the news networks.
Anyway after all the graphic violent films I have seen since a young age. I am still not 'desensitized' to real violence/death. It always upsets me no matter how 'tame' it may look.
And yet I'm sure some people would be 'ok' viewing the graphic hurricane aftermath footage,meanwhile cry foul if they see a dead animal..or animal killed.
Another good example of this backwards 'sympathy' is when I took a film class last semester. When viewing a documentary on war films and being shown some real graphic WW2 Holocaust,as well as Vietnam footage(including real death). The class was ok with nary a reaction.
But when we watched Hearts of Darkness,and they showed the villagers slaughtering some elk for food. The class vocally cried out in horror and disgust "That is cruel,sick,how dare they!". And then when they show the sequence from Apocalypse Now where the animal is killed for real. They were again disturbed and screaming out how 'disgusting' 'offensive' and 'wrong' that was. They also said they would never dare see that film(which the teacher praises highly) because of the one real animal death scene!
So basically they put animal life above human life,and that's just twisted in my honest opinion.
Rockmjd23
09-07-05, 02:34 PM
Cult the thing I do not get regarding peoples reactions to the animal violence is as I mentioned. You still see real humans being murdered for [/B] real durring the 'Last Road To Hell' segment!
I think one of the reasons people have such contempt for the animal violence in this film is because it was done specifically for the film, whereas the real death sequences were just recycled 'mondo' footage.
Julie Walker
09-07-05, 04:13 PM
I know Rock,but it's still real which is the point. Thus people should be just as against that,as they are the animal violence.
I can't wait to hear what Robert Kerman has to say about the film though. Since the vague information I can find out about him. Some claim he hates the film and tried to distance himself from it after release. That he hated Deodato who he claims was a 'sadist' and didn't tell him about the animal violence until filming. Yet the majority of this info comes from highly negative reviews of the film. And they never state what interviews the Kerman comments came from.
Mondo Kane
09-07-05, 09:05 PM
They released I Drink Your Blood in an extremely limited 500 print run. But then months later,or about a year later. Fangoria picked up the distribution rights and made it more widely available.
Didn't Anchor Bay do the same thing with Grindhouse's The Beyond?
I can't wait to hear what Robert Kerman has to say about the film though. Since the vague information I can find out about him. Some claim he hates the film and tried to distance himself from it after release. That he hated Deodato who he claims was a 'sadist' and didn't tell him about the animal violence until filming. Yet the majority of this info comes from highly negative reviews of the film. And they never state what interviews the Kerman comments came from.
If so, then this wouldn't be the first time where you hear an actor bash a movie released by Grindhouse! Check out John Morghan's commentary in Cannibal Ferox.
dadaluholla
09-07-05, 10:08 PM
Even though I have always been somewhat of a gorehound, I have always avoided this film since I hate animal violence in any form. There is just NO point to it. Back when Traces of Death first came out, I could watch scenes of people getting slaughtered over and over and over and over and laugh with my friends, but scenes like the pig's skin being blowtorched off of it while its alive and squealing was too much for me to take....
AND I LOVE BACON!
steebo777
09-07-05, 10:25 PM
Back when Traces of Death first came out, I could watch scenes of people getting slaughtered over and over and over and over and laugh with my friends
That's just wrong dude.
steebo777
09-08-05, 09:21 AM
-eek- WOAH!!! -eek-
Here's the official specs (http://www.horrorchannel.com/dread/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2603) given to Dread Central a.k.a. The Horror Channel early from Grindhouse! :banana:
Here they are, flesh-eaters. Dread Central has had the good fortune of being handed the official specs for Grindhouse Releasing and Ryko Distribution's 25th Anniversary Cannibal Holocaust DVD a bit early. This labor of love is set to street October 25th from Grindhouse Releasing (the cats who resurrected The Beyond a few years back) and Ryko Distribution.
Years in the making and an arduous task to bring to DVD in and of itself, this deluxe edition will be limited to 11,111 copies. Fully restored with a hi-def anamorphic widescreen transfer, expect a new digital stereo re-mix, but if you want to go old school, a mono track will be available as well. :rock2:
Extras will include a commentary with director Ruggero Deodato and Holocaust star Robert Kerman; the original shooting script; extensive liner notes by grue enthusiast and journalist Chas Balun; on-camera interviews with Deodato, Kerman, composer Riz Ortolani, and Holocaust co-star Gabriel Yorke (in an interview conducted by none other than Feast's John Gulager); trailers; still galleries; and last but not least, The Making of Cannibal Holocaust, an hour-long Italian documentary that promises rare footage from Deodato's production. :rock2:
That's not all...
"'Cannibal Holocaust' will be coming back to theaters at the same time it hits DVD," confirms Grindhouse's David Szulkin. :rock2: "We've always been committed to showing our movies on the big screen. There's no substitute for that experience, and this film is one of our highest-grossing titles in every sense of the term."
Stay tuned for more on the theatrical release soon, and pay a visit to the Cannibal Holocaust official site (http://www.cannibalholocaust.net/) !
SWEEET!
It's been a long wait but it seems it was well worth it.
Glad I held out for it.
The bonus features sound awesome, especially the Italian documentary.
ILSA
Rockmjd23
09-08-05, 05:46 PM
I know Rock,but it's still real which is the point. Thus people should be just as against that,as they are the animal violence.
Personally, I'm disturbed by both types of scenes. Even though Deodato didn't film the "road to hell" sequences, he did use them to further shock in his movie. I had the same negative reaction after watching Bruno Mattei's "Women's Camp 119", a nazi-sploitation film that uses real concentration camp footage alongside 'erotic' women-in-prison scenes. The animals don't really bother me as much anymore because after doing some research, I found it was pretty much a product of its time.
I can't wait to hear what Robert Kerman has to say about the film though. Since the vague information I can find out about him. Some claim he hates the film and tried to distance himself from it after release. That he hated Deodato who he claims was a 'sadist' and didn't tell him about the animal violence until filming. Yet the majority of this info comes from highly negative reviews of the film. And they never state what interviews the Kerman comments came from.
Have you read "Eaten Alive" by Jay Slater? It's a book of reviews of Italian cannibal and zombie movies. There is an interview with Robert Kerman, and he says that his Italian cannibal cycle was the happiest time of his life. He doesn't say anything negative about Deodato either.
Julie Walker
09-08-05, 06:00 PM
That is interesting Rock,and now that I recall. It was either Chas Balun in a cult/splatter film review book he released,or the Sleazoid Express book. But that is where after bitching about the film,they tossed in some supposed 'comments' by Robert Kerman and his dislike for the film and Deodato.
Yet it could be themselves attempting to act 'morally superior' and make up rumors about the star(s) to say "See even he,a porn star had some common decency!".
djtoell
09-09-05, 03:01 AM
Kerman gives a substantial interview on Shriek Show's Eaten Alive (1980) disc. You can find about much about his thoughts on the adult and Italian genre work he did.
DJ
Peep
09-09-05, 04:10 AM
Nah, you're full of crap. ;) Deodato was involved in the filming. It's kind of clever actually. By having scenes of real animal violence, it possibly disorients the audience, and makes the rest of the film seem like it is depicting real events. One might start thinking "Wow, if that animal scene is real, scenes involving human violence could be too". Especially in this day and age, where you just don't see scenes of animals getting hurt or killed for real in films.
I went back and checked and it was a different movie - Deodato's "Jungle Holocaust" - that I was thinking of. Oops!!
In the subtitled/translated commentary, he says: "I must say that this film also include killing of animals... ...however it is not my fault. It's the producer who decided to insert the... ...animal scenes for the East Asian market, which required this type... ...of shock. At the time I was against it, because I didn't want to have any animals killed. In fact, all these added scenes are the work of the producer." A minute or so later, he re-iterates that the producer had gone on and inserted the animal scenes.
About 44 minutes into the film, he specifically says of a scene of a snake being killed: "The scene where they kill it was shot later on by the producer." Shortly after, he points out another scene shot by the producer involving a bat being killed and eaten by a snake. When asked if it is symbolic, he says: "Well I don't know. I think the producer might have been somewhat of a maniac about this."
Was he lying? He sounded honestly disturbed when questioned about the scenes. Or did he really change his mind and make him comfortable with filming similar scenes in "CH"? I haven't rewatched the entire "JH", so I'm not sure if he addresses this in the commentary. He says that later Massimo accused him of accepting the addition of the scenes but as a young director he didn't have any say on it.
joliom
09-09-05, 04:18 AM
Even though I have always been somewhat of a gorehound, I have always avoided this film since I hate animal violence in any form. There is just NO point to it. Back when Traces of Death first came out, I could watch scenes of people getting slaughtered over and over and over and over and laugh with my friends, but scenes like the pig's skin being blowtorched off of it while its alive and squealing was too much for me to take....
AND I LOVE BACON!
That's exactly the type of irrational contradiction Julie was pointing out. Why on Earth would you and your friends be laughing at Traces of Death? That's just really sick, imo. I don't mind violence and gore when I know it's all fake, but I abhor the real stuff - animal or human.
Shagrath
09-09-05, 07:11 AM
That's exactly the type of irrational contradiction Julie was pointing out. Why on Earth would you and your friends be laughing at Traces of Death? That's just really sick, imo. I don't mind violence and gore when I know it's all fake, but I abhor the real stuff - animal or human.
Not having seen Traces of Death myself, I can't comment on it directly. But I have seen a couple of the Faces of Death back when I was in high school, and the reason that it can be almost laughable is that most of these people's deaths are caused by themselves being stupid and/or careless (Waterskiing while drunk, bungee jumping and the cord is too long, etc.). I could watch that no problem, and actually chuckle at the idiocy, but when they got to the parts where they'd show a slaughterhouse, or an Asian family preparing dog, I had to leave the room.
I have more respect for animals than most people when it comes to things like that, because people have the choice in most of those situations. They ended up causing their own deaths, rather directly or indirectly. Animals don't have that choice.
On Topic: I just pre-ordered Cannibal Holocaust from DDD. Seems to be the lowest price so far, and with the limited run on this, I definately wanted to get in early.
ShagMan
09-09-05, 11:16 AM
as another Shag-like name, I ordered mine too from DDD to get in early :)
dadaluholla
09-09-05, 11:25 AM
I have more respect for animals than most people when it comes to things like that, because people have the choice in most of those situations. They ended up causing their own deaths, rather directly or indirectly. Animals don't have that choice.
There you go. That sums it up for perfectly. Like when they were showing some european race and these huge crowds of people are practically standing ON the race track, its a little funny to me when a car comes skidding by and wipes out 20-30 of them.
scott1598
09-09-05, 01:13 PM
would DDD ship it out any sooner than say DVD Empire or Digital Eyes?
Johnny Zhivago
09-09-05, 01:22 PM
Wouldn't see why DDD would ship it any sooner than Digital Eyes, they use the same shipping location don't they? FWIW, DVD Empire has always had my pre-orders at the door on street date. YMMV.
Julie Walker
09-09-05, 01:27 PM
Not having seen Traces of Death myself, I can't comment on it directly. But I have seen a couple of the Faces of Death back when I was in high school, and the reason that it can be almost laughable is that most of these people's deaths are caused by themselves being stupid and/or careless (Waterskiing while drunk, bungee jumping and the cord is too long, etc.). I could watch that no problem, and actually chuckle at the idiocy, but when they got to the parts where they'd show a slaughterhouse, or an Asian family preparing dog, I had to leave the room.
Faces of the Death,at least the orginial was mostly faked with laughable results. I don't know about the 'sequels',which may have begun to include real crime/accident footage. But the original is definitely faked for the most part.
Now Traces of Death(or any other real death compilations) which I refuse to view. Contain the real thing only. From graphic crime scene footage,suicides caught of tape,tortures,animal killings,gross out operation footage and so forth. All played to heavy metal music and or a cold hearted narrator making jokes about the footage and 'why' the people 'deserved' to die.
I don't understand how anyone could watch this stuff. Since other than possibly being numbed/bored with a barrage of real atrocity footage. There is really no point to the footage and why it is being shown. So it's just senseless insensitive shock value for shock values sake. And more offensive since it's the real thing treated so shallowly.
So if you can watch those 'films' and laugh at the real carnage to people,but end up being deeply offended and shocked/upset by any animal violence. Then your priorities are mixed up and somethings not right upstairs.
This attitude I do not understand at all.Where people value animal lives over human lives. Death is death,regardless if the humans 'can decide what to do' while the animals 'act on instinct and have no control over what they do'. It's a lame reasoning to 'justify' being 'ok' with viewing real human death,while being offended and 'hurt' by seeing real animal death.
The only time when I would'nt feel 'sad' at an animals death. Is if say it attacked and attempting to kill a person and was subsequently killed in the process.
For example,the story of the old guy in Africa being attacked and mauled by a panther and ripping the panthers tongue out,and then a person coming to the rescue and killing it with a machete.
On one forum where this news story was mentioned. A person actually replied with simply "Poor panther:(" and that was it. Um if the animal was just minding it's own business and then killed sensless for no reason other than 'fun'. Yeah,then be sad at what happened. Yet if it was savagely attacking and trying to kill someone,then it gets no sympathy from myself and got what it deserved.
joliom
09-10-05, 12:29 AM
That about sums up my feelings as well. I don't get the Traces of Death garbage. To me if you can watch that and laugh, you aren't feeling empathy like a normal human being. Laughing at other people's misery (and worse death) is something psychopaths do. As for animals, I don't like to see them hurt or killed senselessly either. My sympathy increases depending on the relative intelligence of the creature, but I still don't like to see even some kid pull the legs off of a cockroach. If your house is infested with rats and you exterminate them all, that's one thing. Or if you slaughter a pig or cow for food. In that case, hopefully you try to make it as quick and painless as possible. But if you just kill it for no reason whatsoever, or to satisfy some perverted sense of pleasure, well that's just sick imo. For that reason I really detest the animal killings in CH. They could have faked it if they really thought it was a necessary inclusion. Likewise for the human execution footage (even though the filmmakers weren't themselves responsible for those killings). No need to exploit somebody's real death when it's simple and easy to fake it with actors, movie blood, and a few squibs and blanks. The movie is what it is, and I don't believe that it ought to be banned or censored, but it'd sure be nice if future filmmakers wouldn't emulate their tactics.
cultshock
09-10-05, 01:10 AM
Is he serious? There have been "Chinatowns" and the like in Western cities for centuries. He talks as if it's some weird new phenomenon to have large ethnic subcommunities in existence in metropolitan centers. Ancient Rome was full of them. It's hardly a boldly original concept first presented to the world in Blade Runner.
I was thinking that too. OMG, one whole street with Chinese signs!!! It's like some weird future!! :lol:
cultshock
09-10-05, 01:18 AM
Faces of the Death,at least the orginial was mostly faked with laughable results. I don't know about the 'sequels',which may have begun to include real crime/accident footage. But the original is definitely faked for the most part.
The FOD sequels also have their share of very faked death scenes. I haven't seen any TRACES OF DEATH videos either, but from what I've read about them in the book "Killing For Culture" (excellent book, btw), they do involve more real footage.
I'm still trying to understand how and why they came up with the number : 11,111 (limited edition copies that is).
gutwrencher
10-20-05, 04:15 PM
I'm still trying to understand how and why they came up with the number : 11,111 (limited edition copies that is).
I'd like #0666 please.:D :thumbsup:
Johnny Zhivago
10-20-05, 04:32 PM
:up: My order is "Currently being Processed for Shipment"... :banana:
man*machine
10-20-05, 04:33 PM
I found the part of that review about the missing seconds in the "LAST ROAD TO HELL" sequence to be a bit startling and confusing. OK - he says there are two versions of it and the sequence in the actual film is still apparently the "cut" version that many were outraged over when it suddenly appeared "cut" on the EC-PAL release of a couple of years ago, but does that mean the original negative was damaged? What exactly IS this alternate version of that sequence. Did they really create a second variation of this sequence for different prints in different markets? The completely UNCUT version has been around for years starting in the 80's on the bootleg market, the Cult Epics laserdisc, the Substance DVD rip, the first PAL EC dvd, and others - all have included the uncut "Last Road to Hell" sequence. Only with that EC NTSC release from a couple of years ago did that sequence show up in edited form. So if the original negative is "cut", where have all these other uncut prints come from for over 20+ years? The reviewer tries to be clear about all of this, but ends up just making it even more confusing, although at least he does reiterate that it is the cut version in the actual film.
Ya, I know it's only a few seconds and apparently the DVD itself decribes why there are two versions of the sequence, but it definitely struck an initial WTF with me when reading that review. I'll reserve final judgment until I know the reasoning behind it, but once again, I'm a bit relieved that I've held onto some of my prior transfers of the completely uncut film (or at least the completely uncut "alternate" version - which is, of course, the version most of us have been watching for 25 years.
I'm sure this Grindhouse release is absolutely incredible - don't get me wrong - and whatever the case is with these few missing seconds (or "alternate version", whatever), it doesn't take away what an essential purchase this is.
Mondo Kane
10-20-05, 04:49 PM
^I'm still confused about it too. I've only seen this movie twice. First time was on a French copy (Much more unsettling watching this movie in a foreign language) and I caught noticable jumps in the score during the "Last Road to Hell" sequence and knew something was missing.
Did some IMDB'ng and found out that some of the footage included was some child executions.
Saw the movie a 2nd time (On the Substance DVD) The score ran complete this time on "The Last Road to Hell", but no child executions.
So does the EC disc have these scenes? I'm not saying I'm anxious to see this footage. Just wondering, ya know...
Goldblum
10-20-05, 04:56 PM
That about sums up my feelings as well. I don't get the Traces of Death garbage. To me if you can watch that and laugh, you aren't feeling empathy like a normal human being. Laughing at other people's misery (and worse death) is something psychopaths do. As for animals, I don't like to see them hurt or killed senselessly either. My sympathy increases depending on the relative intelligence of the creature, but I still don't like to see even some kid pull the legs off of a cockroach. If your house is infested with rats and you exterminate them all, that's one thing. Or if you slaughter a pig or cow for food. In that case, hopefully you try to make it as quick and painless as possible. But if you just kill it for no reason whatsoever, or to satisfy some perverted sense of pleasure, well that's just sick imo. For that reason I really detest the animal killings in CH. They could have faked it if they really thought it was a necessary inclusion. Likewise for the human execution footage (even though the filmmakers weren't themselves responsible for those killings). No need to exploit somebody's real death when it's simple and easy to fake it with actors, movie blood, and a few squibs and blanks. The movie is what it is, and I don't believe that it ought to be banned or censored, but it'd sure be nice if future filmmakers wouldn't emulate their tactics.
:up:
And :up: to Julie Walker too.
island007
10-20-05, 05:49 PM
I just placed an order 'Blind Buy'.
-popcorn-
:horse:
Giles
10-21-05, 11:03 AM
The completely UNCUT version has been around for years starting in the 80's on the bootleg market, the Cult Epics laserdisc
really? I never knew that. Glad I didn't sell my copy then.
Giles
10-21-05, 11:15 AM
^I'm still confused about it too. I've only seen this movie twice. First time was on a French copy (Much more unsettling watching this movie in a foreign language) and I caught noticable jumps in the score during the "Last Road to Hell" sequence and knew something was missing.
Did some IMDB'ng and found out that some of the footage included was some child executions.
Saw the movie a 2nd time (On the Substance DVD) The score ran complete this time on "The Last Road to Hell", but no child executions.
So does the EC disc have these scenes? I'm not saying I'm anxious to see this footage. Just wondering, ya know...
but if I reading this right, the Grindhouse DVD does have the full uncut scene, just not integrated in the actual scene but as a supplement... right?
from the MonstersAtPlay review:
There was a huge stink made when the recent import release I mentioned earlier was missing a few seconds of footage from this segment. The Last Road to Hell is comprised of footage from a "previous documentary" from the filmmakers that are now lost in the jungle. The footage is brief and consists of some mondo footage, people being executed etc. There is a brief shot (no pun intended) from a firing squad that's missing, really only a second or two of footage. As it turns out, the original negatives contain an alternate version with different credits/footage which is the version included here. The alternate cut is included here as well as an extra with some explanations as to the differences between them. Just to clarify, the version of The Last Road to Hell in the film is missing a few seconds of this footage because it's missing from the original negative. The alternate version that does include this footage is included as an extra.
from IMDB:
The most uncut version is the EC entertainment 2-Disc Superbit DVD. This is the longest edition of the film ever released on DVD or Laserdisc. It includes 3 small cuts missing from the Italian DVD and the re-mastered EC Entertainment DVD, and 1 cut which is missing from the German DVD, Cult epics VHS/Laserdisc, and the first EC Entertainment DVD. Among these cuts are additional material added to the 'Last Road to Hell' sequence with real child executions and added snippets of dialogue.
ChrisHicks
10-21-05, 11:26 AM
I may as well order this to go with my EC 2 disc limited. I'm a sucker for limited stuff.
joliom
10-21-05, 11:48 AM
Where is everybody ordering from?
Giles
10-21-05, 11:54 AM
Where is everybody ordering from?
DVD Empire: Cannibal Holocaust (25th Anniversary Edition) (http://www.dvdempire.com/exec/v4_item.asp?userid=99364423961956&item_id=746073) price: $18.67
I'm ordering it from Amazon though, cause I get triple points with my Amazon Visa.
Giles
10-21-05, 12:04 PM
I may as well order this to go with my EC 2 disc limited. I'm a sucker for limited stuff.
this is the 'EC' version you have... right?
Cannibal Holocaust (http://www.movietyme.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=29712)
cause I have this supposed 'edited' EC version
Cannibal Holocaust-EC import (http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=0&tiq=15096)
Johnny Zhivago
10-21-05, 12:33 PM
Yup... I went with DVD Empire. Shipped this morning.
ChrisHicks
10-21-05, 01:34 PM
this is the 'EC' version you have... right?
Cannibal Holocaust (http://www.movietyme.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=29712)
yep. thats the one I have.
Giles
10-21-05, 02:09 PM
> <i>"Limited to 10,000 sets"</i>
:hscratch:
I'm still trying to understand how and why they came up with the number : 11,111 (limited edition copies that is).
I actually didn't notice this, but it looks like the preordering of this actually made Grindhouse increase it's production run
natevines
10-21-05, 03:01 PM
yep. thats the one I have.
Same. I still don't think it's worth it anyway, especially since the final quarter of this year has had/will have so many releases I want. This looks like a nice DVD, but the only advantage I see is being able to play it on my friends' DVD players.
Rypro 525
10-21-05, 05:58 PM
just pre ordered it, but after reading the "cut list" to the british version, now i am not sure about what i just bought.
The BBFC passed off the extensive cuts list with the comment: Cuts required to scenes involving real cruelty to animals and to eroticised sexual violence:
-The killing of a muskrat has been deleted.
-Our intrepid adventurers witness the riverside murder and mutilation of a woman presumably by her husband. We don't get to witness:
-The girl being dragged through the mud and having her legs forced apart.
-The girl struggling and being raped with a wooden dildo.
-The man raising a mudball with spikes and the subsequent shot of genital mutilation.
The following has also been cut:
-Another woman getting raped on the river bank has been removed.
-The disembowelling of a giant turtle has been predictably deleted.
-A monkey gets his head sliced open and its blood is drained into a bowl.
-The kicking of a tethered pig has been removed.
-The rape one of the adventurers by her companians has been reduced.
-The cannibals eventually overpower the adventurers.
-The woman in the party gets stripped and raped.
-The womans death scene is missing nudity shots. that defently seems like its really nasty
natevines
10-21-05, 06:03 PM
Yeah, this movie is pretty brutal, but it's not THAT bad. I've seen it 5 times or so, but I grew up on this kind of stuff, so I'm incredibly desensitized.
scott1598
10-21-05, 08:09 PM
so is the US release, the complete uncut version? the review at monstersatplay seemed to say so...
also, how many others have had their order ship? i ordered from DigitalEyes and they usually ship a week early, but nothing as of yet which i am surprised...
headrippa
10-21-05, 08:09 PM
So is this version fully uncut or what guys ?
gutwrencher
10-21-05, 09:16 PM
also, how many others have had their order ship?
Mine has shipped via Xploited Cinema.:D
I'll have it Monday. I'll wait until I give it a viddey before tossin' out a comment. I will say that I've been very happy with my limited EC 2-discer. With this new release...I have now triple-dipped.
joliom
10-21-05, 10:56 PM
Which version does Netflix carry? That's the one I've seen. Is it the "cut" version?
wewantflair
10-21-05, 11:48 PM
Which version does Netflix carry? That's the one I've seen. Is it the "cut" version?
Netflix hasn't ever carried a version of Cannibal Holocaust.
Leechboy
10-22-05, 12:15 AM
Has anyone received a shipping notice from DDD?
kitkat
10-22-05, 02:25 AM
Netflix has the new one listed.
Shagrath
10-22-05, 07:43 AM
Has anyone received a shipping notice from DDD?
I haven't yet. Sometimes the smaller titles don't ship until release date, or even after. I'm assuming they might not get those in stock right away unlike the titles from a larger company like WB or Sony.
ShagMan
10-22-05, 09:56 AM
no shipping notice yet from DDD :(
Calum Waddell
10-22-05, 11:34 AM
And anyone who wants to meet the director himself, and lives within the proximity of Dublin in Ireland, should head to horrorthon from the 28th to the 31st October (www.horrorthon.com)
joliom
10-22-05, 10:56 PM
Netflix hasn't ever carried a version of Cannibal Holocaust.Yes they have.
Netflix has the new one listed.They must have upgraded the artwork (or are preparing to switchover their rental copies to the new GrindHouse version). I rented it about a month ago. The pic on their site was different then. It was this artwork:
They must have upgraded the artwork (or are preparing to switchover their rental copies to the new GrinHouse version). I rented it about a month ago. The pic on their site was different then.
It was the Substance DVD. Possibly uncut, but a terrible transfer.
Heat
10-23-05, 01:33 AM
So is this version fully uncut or what guys ?
I was trying to figure that out myself.
The best I can tell is that there were some scenes cut that are present in an "alternate version" (or alternate scenes?), that are on the disk as extras.
What confuses me is the talk of the normal version and the "animal-cruelty free" version. How do I know which is which? This is something I'd pick up but want to pick up the "real thing" and not any censored versions, including an "animal-cruelty free" version.
And from imdb's trivia (not the complete trivia, just some I thought were interesting):
The film is one of the top ten highest grossing films of all time in Japan.
The film caused some scandal in Italy at the time, and had trouble with the censorship board. There was a rumor that the performers had really been slain, so director Ruggero Deodato had to take the actors with him to the set of an Italian TV show in order to prove that they hadn't been eaten alive.
The in-film-documentary "The Last Road To Hell", which features several executions, consists of authentic footage. Supposedly from Uganda. "The Last Road To Hell"-footage can only be seen completely uncut in the EC-UltraBit DVD (which includes executions of children).
This movie has gained the title of the most notorious movie of all-time, holding the world record for the movie banned in the most countries (in almost 60 countries).
conscience
10-23-05, 02:34 AM
I was trying to figure that out myself.
The best I can tell is that there were some scenes cut that are present in an "alternate version" (or alternate scenes?), that are on the disk as extras.
What confuses me is the talk of the normal version and the "animal-cruelty free" version. How do I know which is which? This is something I'd pick up but want to pick up the "real thing" and not any censored versions, including an "animal-cruelty free" version.
Pretty sure they just viewing 'options' on the same dvd. Is that what you were asking?
Heat
10-23-05, 02:42 AM
Pretty sure they just viewing 'options' on the same dvd. Is that what you were asking?
I believe so, I wasn't sure if the "animal-cruelty free" version was a stand alone version, or an option on the menu.
So... if I buy the DVD, I'll get the footage of the animals being killed in the movie itself, as well as the documentary with the kids being killed (executed)?
man*machine
10-23-05, 03:19 AM
So... if I buy the DVD, I'll get the footage of the animals being killed in the movie itself, as well as the documentary with the kids being killed (executed)?
Aren't we horror fans special?
Leechboy
10-23-05, 03:48 AM
On an unrelated note. My soundtrack cd arrived in the mail today. It rufuses to play on my computer or copy to itunes. :mad: plays fine in my cd player though. Awesome soundtrack
conscience
10-23-05, 12:37 PM
I believe so, I wasn't sure if the "animal-cruelty free" version was a stand alone version, or an option on the menu.
So... if I buy the DVD, I'll get the footage of the animals being killed in the movie itself, as well as the documentary with the kids being killed (executed)?
I just read the DVDTalk review and it says this:
Disc One: First off, the film can be viewed in no less than three different ways, in original, uncut theatrical form, in an animal cruelty-free version (which speaks for itself), and in an on camera commentary version (you view the film with commentary and a little icon pops up that connects you to footage of director Ruggero Deadato and actor Robert Kerman during the commentary recording)— Feature Length Commentary by director Deadato and Kerman. Pretty good, keeps moving, mainly anecdote driven ("We got stuck in the mud there"), but informative and light.
From that I deduce that we will get the uncut version (with animal killings and the documentary) as an option, an animal cruelty free option, and the commentary option.
Hope that helps.
GregS
10-23-05, 12:52 PM
From that I deduce that we will get the uncut version (with animal killings and the documentary) as an option, an animal cruelty free option, and the commentary option.
Hope that helps.
well, looks as if i will def buy this Tues, and i got myself one on hold as work already
scott1598
10-23-05, 03:14 PM
well, looks as if i will def buy this Tues, and i got myself one on hold as work already
where do you work? i'd be curious to see this in any B&M...
SPiRAL
10-23-05, 04:22 PM
[QUOTE=scott1598]where do you work? i'd be curious to see this in any B&M...[/QUOTE
I was wondering if any B&M would be carrying this. BB has it listed on their website.
scott1598
10-23-05, 07:55 PM
[QUOTE=scott1598]where do you work? i'd be curious to see this in any B&M...[/QUOTE
I was wondering if any B&M would be carrying this. BB has it listed on their website.
yeah...i saw it there as well. i am going to ask my friend Mon. nite if it is in and stash one away for me for Tues. i have it on order, but that can always go back or two wouldn't be bad wither.
PopcornTreeCt
10-23-05, 11:08 PM
Well, I'm not letting curiosity get the better of me on this title.
ShagMan
10-24-05, 09:07 AM
Got a shipping notice from DDD today :banana:
scott shelton
10-24-05, 10:14 AM
Got a shipping notice from DDD today :banana:
Me too. And here I thought DDD would dick around on this order...
Shagrath
10-24-05, 11:40 AM
I also received shipping notice from DDD. Glad to hear it's on the way, but I would've liked to have this one for my Halloween get-together on Sunday. My other dvd that I ordered with a street of 10/25 shipped out early last week, and will probably be here today or tomorrow.
ThatGuamGuy
10-24-05, 02:26 PM
From that I deduce that we will get the uncut version (with animal killings and the documentary) as an option, an animal cruelty free option, and the commentary option.
Slight clarification: As I understand it, the "uncut" version of the documentary is only viewable as an extra. The animal cruelty version has a slightly modified version of the documentary, which has something to do with the quality prints they used to make the transfer, or something.
Sex Fiend
10-24-05, 03:25 PM
Well Best Buy is surprisingly intrepid in what they carry in store, so I wouldn't at all be shocked if they have a few copies come Tuesday. My local BB carried the Guinea Pig boxset and I Spit On Your Grave ME when they were just out, so I don't think that Cannibal Holocaust is out of the question.
ShagMan
10-24-05, 08:48 PM
:up: I actually picked up and looked at the Guinea Pig set at my local BB... almost got it, but wasn't totally sold on it. Wish I had now...
island007
10-24-05, 08:51 PM
Got a shipping notice from DDD today :banana:
No shipping notice for me yet. :sad:
gutwrencher
10-24-05, 10:21 PM
:up: I actually picked up and looked at the Guinea Pig set at my local BB... almost got it, but wasn't totally sold on it. Wish I had now...
I have the individual titles from the set on the domestic side...but still love my OOP import set that included the T-shirt.:thumbsup:
mattressman
10-25-05, 12:51 AM
I can't decide whether I'm gonna go for a blind buy on this or not. It's not around for rent and I've been wanting to see this for some time. Plus, the DVD looks impressive.
scott1598
10-25-05, 10:41 AM
got my shipping notice from digieyes and is now "temp. sold out". i love getting in under the wire!! and will have to close out my horror movie month! :banana:
lethalkrs
10-25-05, 11:55 AM
I also received shipping notice from DDD. Glad to hear it's on the way, but I would've liked to have this one for my Halloween get-together on Sunday. My other dvd that I ordered with a street of 10/25 shipped out early last week, and will probably be here today or tomorrow.
I couldn't wait and had to pony up the dough for the 2-day express shipping. Combined this with BU's Bird w/ Crystal Plummage so I try to rationalize it as only being an extra $3 per movie. Sure these would have been $25 or more in stores anyway. Doubt any B&M will carry CH and BB didn't have out any Bird this morning when I stopped in.
Going to my sister in laws in LA this weekend and her roommates wanted to see some good gore movies, boy are they in for a good one.
Hammer99
10-25-05, 11:59 AM
Not at Best Buy B & M, but I did pick it up from Suncoast (I know, but couldn't wait, too impulsive) for $30. (#9835 of 11,111) looks great!
Giles
10-25-05, 12:03 PM
Going to my sister in laws in LA this weekend and her roommates wanted to see some good gore movies, boy are they in for a good one.
make it a double feature night and rent Cannibal Ferox (aka 'Make Them Die Slowly')
:)
lethalkrs
10-25-05, 12:06 PM
make it a double feature night and rent Cannibal Ferox (aka 'Make Them Die Slowly')
:)
Have that one too, sounds like a good family friendly double feature.
ChrisHicks
10-25-05, 12:06 PM
I have a bad feeling about my order since it appears alot of stores are already sold out.
n.phelge
10-25-05, 12:28 PM
My DDD order (placed on 10/15) is still showing a status of OPEN....
steebo777
10-25-05, 12:32 PM
My DDD order (placed on 10/15) is still showing a status of OPEN....
Same here.
ChrisHicks
10-25-05, 12:53 PM
status says OPEN on the main order page but when you click on the actual order it says PREORDER. I think usually by now it will say IN PROCESS
Giles
10-25-05, 12:57 PM
If so, then this wouldn't be the first time where you hear an actor bash a movie released by Grindhouse! Check out John Morghan's commentary in Cannibal Ferox.
just listened to the commentary track yesterday - really fascinating!
I had looked at my Cult Epics laserdisc edition of Cannibal Holocaust and I was surprised to note that the film's music score (33 minutes) is presented in it's entirety on one of the analog tracks.
n.phelge
10-25-05, 01:02 PM
status says OPEN on the main order page but when you click on the actual order it says PREORDER. I think usually by now it will say IN PROCESS
I noticed that mine still says PREORDER as well. I've never done a preorder from DDD before - do they not update the status until the next day? I just added the item to my cart, and it doesn't give a warning stating that the title hasn't been released or isn't in stock.
island007
10-25-05, 02:45 PM
No shipping notice for me yet. :sad:
I got my shipping notice. :consume:
ChrisHicks
10-25-05, 03:07 PM
got my notice as well. :)
Heat
10-25-05, 03:21 PM
Well, I ordered it through DDD a few hours ago, the order status says "in process". I don't see any problems at this point.
It is #18 on their "Best Seller" list so it's a popular item.
natevines
10-25-05, 03:43 PM
My DDD order (placed on 10/15) is still showing a status of OPEN....
This is happening with a couple of other releases. I pre-ordered Bird with the Crystal Plumage some time ago, but it shipped only yesterday. Bridge Too Far + Battle of Britain have yet to ship...
I thought pre-orders were shipped so that they arrive at your doorstep 'on or around release date'?
n.phelge
10-25-05, 03:50 PM
My email service is currently down - for those of you that received a shipping notice, does your online status still indicate PREORDER or has it transitioned to SHIPPED?
Thanks
ChrisHicks
10-25-05, 04:00 PM
mine still shows PREORDER
ShagMan
10-25-05, 04:01 PM
Mine says COMPLETE, item status when I click on the order says SHIPPED.
boss429
10-25-05, 04:19 PM
Got shipping notice today also.
gutwrencher
10-25-05, 05:29 PM
Just got mine at the door, along with a few Blue Underground titles, a few samurai Criterion titles, a VCI title and thank christ...my newest Mondo Macabro title!! Bring on the vikings!
It's Christmas early.:thumbsup:
Leon Liew
10-25-05, 10:12 PM
Ah, mine is on the way from Lasersedge ETA Saturday
Leechboy
10-26-05, 01:01 AM
got my DDD shipping notice today. I hope to have it by the weekend. Can anyone that has it please post pics of the packaging? I want to see this "controversal" cover.
Heat
10-26-05, 10:22 AM
Well, I ordered Cannibal Holocaust yesterday (Tuesday, 10/25) from DDD and it was shipped today (10/26). I expect to have it on Friday or Saturday, in time for Halloween. That’s the good thing about living in Illinois, quick shipment from DDD – though of course I have to pay sales tax.
davejt1
10-26-05, 10:33 AM
Bought my copy last night at Borders B&M - $24.99 on sale
Quatermass
10-26-05, 10:42 AM
Did anyone order from DVDEmpire? They are still showing "out of stock - On Order" and I never saw them as being "In Stock". I think the status went from being "pre-order" to "out-of-stock".
Giles
10-26-05, 10:47 AM
jeesh, my order with Amazon isn't getting shipped out til tomorrow - with (now pointless) rush delivery and a weekend trip I won't be able to watch this until Monday. :grunt:
matome
10-26-05, 11:07 AM
Did anyone order from DVDEmpire? They are still showing "out of stock - On Order" and I never saw them as being "In Stock". I think the status went from being "pre-order" to "out-of-stock".
I had actually forgotten to preorder this, so I added this to next week's order back on Monday. According to my order status, my copy is being reserved for my order (it was listed as In Stock on Monday). Looks like I got one of the last in-stock copies.
Johnny Zhivago
10-26-05, 12:33 PM
Did anyone order from DVDEmpire? They are still showing "out of stock - On Order" and I never saw them as being "In Stock". I think the status