Nebraska 106; Boise State 94; Oregon State 81; Louisville 65; Virginia Tech 58; Washington State 55; North Carolina State 41; Oklahoma State 36; Memphis 26; Notre Dame 25; TCU 25; Miami (Ohio) 23; Bowling Green 22; Brigham Young 21; Toledo 19; Georgia Tech 16; Marshall 13; Pittsburgh 13; Michigan State 12; Fresno State 11; Arkansas 10; Northern Illinois 10; San Diego State 10; Boston College 7; UCLA 7; Alabama 6; Colorado State 6; Hawaii 5; Texas A&M 5; Texas Tech 5; Southern Mississippi 3; Washington 2; Arizona 1; Arizona State 1; Connecticut 1.
Red Dog
08-30-04, 01:30 PM
Note the slight variations from the last poll - there must have been some different secretaries that filled it out this week. ;)
zak52
08-30-04, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Red Dog
Note the slight variations from the last poll - there must have been some different secretaries that filled it out this week. ;)
Yes, but what made them move Utah up two spots? I guess if Utah gets by Texas A&M on Thursday, they'll have a good shot at going undeated.
Daryl
08-30-04, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by zak52
Yes, but what made them move Utah up two spots? I guess if Utah gets by Texas A&M on Thursday, they'll have a good shot at going undeated.
Does the Texas A&M coach have a vote? It could be the old Rick Neuheisel trick, rank your next opponent really high so it looks good when you beat them!
zak52
08-31-04, 06:34 PM
When does the next AP poll come out? I assume after this weeks games.
Others Receiving Votes: NEBRASKA 92, LOUISVILLE 89, MEMPHIS
80, BOISE ST 60, NO CAROLINA ST 49, OREGON ST 34, OKLAHOMA
ST 16, TCU 14, WASHINGTON ST 11, ALABAMA 9, PENN ST 7,
ARKANSAS 3, SOUTHERN MISS 3, BOSTON COLLEGE 2, FRESNO ST 2,
MISSISSIPPI 2, RUTGERS 1, STANFORD 1, VIRGINIA TECH 1.
Josh H
09-07-04, 12:05 PM
Wonder how long it's been since Rutgers got a vote? :D
twikoff
09-07-04, 12:34 PM
:lol: they dropped LSU 2 spots to make the FSU/MIAMI game that much bigger
clemson down 5 spots after the ugly double overtime win against wake
auburn dropped a spot :mad:
I guess some of the pollsters must have bet the spread, and 31-0 wasnt enough!
Copenhagen
09-07-04, 02:30 PM
I'm suprised Boise State is getting more votes than Fresno State. FSU should win the WAC and I suspect if they manage to upset K-State next week they'll catch BSU.
Also receiving votes
Boise State 114; Nebraska 98; Louisville 82; Oregon State 47; Oklahoma State 39; Fresno State 37; Washington State 36; North Carolina State 32; Memphis 30; Brigham Young 24; Virginia Tech 23; TCU 17; Pittsburgh 12; Arkansas 11; San Diego State 11; Georgia Tech 10; Alabama 7; Texas Tech 5; Connecticut 2; Arizona 1; Arizona State 1; Boston College 1; Bowling Green 1; Penn State 1.
Dropped out
No. 14 Kansas State (1-1, lost to then-unranked Fresno State 45-21), No. 17 Missouri (1-1, lost to Troy 24-14), No. 25 Oregon (0-1, lost to Indiana 30-24).
Also receiving votes
Kansas State 94; Oklahoma State 74; Virginia Tech 59; Memphis 44; Georgia Tech 42; Missouri 37; North Carolina State 35; TCU 30; Notre Dame 23; Southern Mississippi 19; Alabama 17; Colorado 16; Pittsburgh 12; Boston College 8; South Carolina 7; Troy 6; Arizona State 3; Bowling Green 3; Nebraska 2; Arkansas 1; San Diego State 1; Stanford 1.
Others Receiving Votes: KANSAS ST 51, OKLAHOMA ST 47,
GEORGIA TECH 46, NO CAROLINA ST 44, MISSOURI 41, NOTRE DAME
38, SOUTHERN MISS 37, TROY 31, COLORADO 27, CLEMSON 23,
ALABAMA 20, TCU 20, VIRGINIA TECH 13, BOSTON COLLEGE 8,
ARKANSAS 5, STANFORD 4.
Copenhagen
09-12-04, 05:06 PM
As expected Fresno State jumped BSU this week and their game on the blue turf should be a great battle in week 7.
twikoff
09-12-04, 05:22 PM
looks like rutgers lost their 1 vote :lol:
das Monkey
09-12-04, 05:24 PM
• Copenhagen •
As expected Fresno State jumped BSU this week and their game on the blue turf should be a great battle in week 7.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one. They should be ranked higher though. Going on the road to two real programs from real conferences and spanking the shit out of them needs to be worth something.
das
Josh H
09-12-04, 05:48 PM
Good to see WVU moving up. Hopefully we can finally win one against Maryland next weekend. That and the later game at VT are the only games that really worry me this year.
Bill Geiger
09-12-04, 06:48 PM
I am happy to see them both (Boise & Fresno) get their due. Fresno has easy it Saturday with Portland State! As does Boise with UTEP.
Dr_Evil
09-12-04, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
Good to see WVU moving up. Hopefully we can finally win one against Maryland next weekend. That and the later game at VT are the only games that really worry me this year.
You should never overlook the Backyard Brawl. Although Pitt is not very good this year those rivalry games can be killers.
Josh H
09-13-04, 11:32 AM
Yeah, that will be a tough game as always, but like you said they aren't very good and lost of ton of players so that should be a win for us. BC worries me the most of the Big East teams, but it's a home game for us, so we should pull that one out as well.
One thing is for sure. I have a lot more respect for Jeff Sagarin than I do any of these pollsters (and their secretaries). WVU = 33 in the Sagarins. I don't know if they are 33rd best team in the country but I sure as hell know that they are closer to 33 than 7.
kms_md
09-21-04, 03:46 PM
texas now at five. i fear the potential plummet after 10/9.
kms
RoyalTea
09-21-04, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Red Dog
One thing is for sure. I have a lot more respect for Jeff Sagarin than I do any of these pollsters (and their secretaries). WVU = 33 in the Sagarins. I don't know if they are 33rd best team in the country but I sure as hell know that they are closer to 33 than 7. I love it how teams like TCU, Boise St, and Fresno St. get shit on in the polls because they've got a "weak schedule."
Yet, WVU gets elevated to the top because they're expected to plow through a "weak schedule."
Red Dog
09-21-04, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by RoyalTea
I love it how teams like TCU, Boise St, and Fresno St. get shit on in the polls because they've got a "weak schedule."
Yet, WVU gets elevated to the top because they're expected to plow through a "weak schedule."
FYI - Boise State is 9 in the Sagarins.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt04.htm
Here's my favorite poll. Most accurate one out there IMO.
http://www.mratings.com/cf/compare.htm
das Monkey
09-21-04, 05:25 PM
Is now a good time to bring up the unfair bias Notre Dame gets and how they're overranked?
das
zak52
09-21-04, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by das Monkey
Is now a good time to bring up the unfair bias Notre Dame gets and how they're overranked?
das
Is there ever a bad time?
das Monkey
09-21-04, 05:36 PM
;)
This should be a fun year. Giving the pollsters <i>more</i> control is going to cause so many problems, and all the people bitching about the computers, will now be bitching about their absense.
Although anything can, almost certainly will, happen, it's hard to imagine how USC, Oklahoma, and either Fresno St. or Boise St. don't all run the table. Hell, Miami has a reasonable shot, as well as West Virginia (who isn't that good, but doesn't play anyone other than VT either). I know, I know ... this talk happens every year, but something tells me this is going to be a nice and controversial year, especially if we have a 1-loss SEC Champion in the mix.
das
zak52
09-21-04, 06:15 PM
Hopefully your right das. The more controversy the better. I wouldn't have a problem with West Virginia in a playoff system, but if they somehow mangage to get into the championship game, hopefully all hell will break loose.
das Monkey
09-21-04, 06:30 PM
This year has the makings of a 1993 repeat. Undefeated and crybaby WVU team vs. 2-loss Florida team. 41-7, perhaps? :)
das
twikoff
09-21-04, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by das Monkey
This year has the makings of a 1993 repeat. Undefeated and crybaby WVU team vs. 2-loss Florida team. 41-7, perhaps? :)
das
but one of Florida's losses that season came against the best team in football that year ;)
Toad
09-21-04, 07:13 PM
If we have a 1-loss SEC Champ, I still think that's a better team than Fresno St. or Boise St. or practically any other team besides USC, Oklahoma or Miami. Especially if its Florida, who has to play UT, LSU, UGA, and FL State. Of course Georgia plays UT, LSU, UF and Auburn, so take your pick. (I know which one is mine ;)).
I don't think it should be too controversial, but you are probably right -- it still will be.
Red Dog
09-22-04, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by das Monkey
[B];)
This should be a fun year. Giving the pollsters <i>more</i> control is going to cause so many problems, and all the people bitching about the computers, will now be bitching about their absense./B]
Yep - I can't wait to the see the carbon blobs box themselves into a corner come December with WVU if they keep winning and teams above them lose.
The more controversy the better. I wouldn't have a problem with West Virginia in a playoff system, but if they somehow mangage to get into the championship game, hopefully all hell will break loose.
:thumbsup:
Josh H
09-22-04, 12:32 PM
Hell, I'm a diehard WVU fan and I think they're overranked.
33rd third is way too low though. They should be around 15 IMO, though they didn't even play like that against UMD.
That game should have been a blow out if our lame QB hadn't constantly over thrown wide open receivers on what would have been long TDs and we hadn't made boneheaded penalties.
zak52
09-22-04, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
That game should have been a blow out if our lame QB hadn't constantly over thrown wide open receivers on what would have been long TDs and we hadn't made boneheaded penalties.
...and MD should have won if they didn't turn the ball over 5 times, etc, etc.
Red Dog
09-22-04, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by zak52
...and MD should have won if they didn't turn the ball over 5 times, etc, etc.
Yep. WVV is somewhere in the 20-25 range IMO. Maryland is probably the 4th best team in the ACC, and WVU needed OT to beat them at home.
Josh H
09-22-04, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by zak52
...and MD should have won if they didn't turn the ball over 5 times, etc, etc.
True, but it's not like WVU's D didn't have a hand in forcing those turnovers. Our QB had all the time in the world when he kept overthrowing people. He's just inaccurate. Having KJ Harris beat up and only able to run at around 3/4's speed (his words after game) didn't help either as he couldn't breakaway.
Plus I think the whole team was just nervous due to all the pressure they were under from fans, the media, and themselves for getting killed by MD the last 3 times.
When we go to VT in two weeks, we'll have a better idea of how good WVU really is. VT's not great, but it's a big rivalry and one of the toughest places in the country to play.
zak52
09-22-04, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
Our QB had all the time in the world when he kept overthrowing people. He's just inaccurate
That's just Rasheed Marshall, he's never been a very good QB.
FantasticVSDoom
09-22-04, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by twikoff
but one of Florida's losses that season came against the best team in football that year ;)
Awww...So nice of you to say that about FSU. :D
Josh H
09-22-04, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by zak52
That's just Rasheed Marshall, he's never been a very good QB.
That's what I was saying. Strong arm, no accuracy.
Jeremy517
09-22-04, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by das Monkey
Although anything can, almost certainly will, happen, it's hard to imagine how USC, Oklahoma, and either Fresno St. or Boise St. don't all run the table.
And Utah.
kenbuzz
09-22-04, 01:45 PM
Since the BCS is still a few weeks away from making us all argue again, here are the combined AP/Coaches poll rankings using the BCS formula. Note: This list takes into account ONLY the AP and Coaches polls, the third component of the BCS -- whatever in the hell that it this year (best use of the colors red and white in their cheerleaders' pom-poms??) is not included:
That is completely different than the BCS hypo at ESPN.com, which has UGA fourth, and Miami somewhere in 1-3. I think Oklahoma was below fifth.
kenbuzz
09-24-04, 11:22 AM
I don't doubt it. The BCS will be either summing or averaging three elements: (a) AP Poll, (b) Coaches Poll, and (c) a weighted sum of several other polls. Unless someone has (c) handy, all we can do right now is combine (a) and (b). Note, I added (a) and (b), but the BCS may be averaging them. Either way, the rank order will be unchanged.
I do not know the sources/weights for the polls that make up (c), nor if all of those sources have polls out this early in the season.
Buy: