Anyone watch that? They booed so long the judges decided to give him a higher score (still not high enough). Then Hamm does an average job and gets a higher score. Then some other dude goes lights out, and ties HamHamm loses tie breaker).
It wasn't even close. Nemov did the second best routine of the night, hands down. Totally screwed.
gnradd21
08-24-04, 03:05 AM
Yep, and it's probably his last Olympics. He's a true gymnastics legend and should have went out with at least the silver, which he completely deserved, but instead got nothing. The two judges who screwed him over must have been watching someone else's routine. I felt sorry that Hamm had to go after the audience went nuts, but the booing was appropriate and hopefully ridiculous mistakes like this won't happen in the future. But I'm sure they probably will :rolleyes:
Quake1028
08-24-04, 03:16 AM
IMO Nemov should have won gold. I thought his routine was marginally better than Cassina's.
B.A.
08-24-04, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Quake1028
IMO Nemov should have won gold. I thought his routine was marginally better than Cassina's. I concur - if not gold, at least silver. He did six releases compared to three for Cassina and Hamm. Yes, Cassina did those two amazing releases one after the other, but Nemov's releases were gigantic, imo.
mgbfan
08-24-04, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Quake1028
IMO Nemov should have won gold. I thought his routine was marginally better than Cassina's.
Cassina stuck his landing better. Nemov should have gotten silver, IMHO.
Good lord, I can't believe I'm discussing men's gymnastics.
Canadian Bacon
08-24-04, 04:21 PM
Yeah, that was pathetic, a 9.6 by the Canadian judge? whatever, 9.8 would be too low IMO Nemov certainly handled it the right way though, told the crowd to quiet down so Hamm could do his routine I thought that was a classy move.
Iron Chef
08-24-04, 04:23 PM
http://img32.exs.cx/img32/5921/nimoy.jpg
das Monkey
08-24-04, 05:00 PM
Just for the sake of argument, consider that the judging throughout this competition has placed a premium on sticking the landing. He was just another in a long list of competitors to try something new or do something difficult and not get rewarded as much as penalized for the landing. The same thing happened with the women. Although I thought his routine was pretty damn cool, it's not like he was singled out. The judges were relatively consistent in this area.
das
eXcentris
08-24-04, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by das Monkey
Just for the sake of argument, consider that the judging throughout this competition has placed a premium on sticking the landing.
das
Tell that to the Canadian who finished 4th in the vault after the Romanian who finished 3rd missed his landing, took 3 steps, put both hands down and ended up with one foot completely outside the mat and yet managed to get a miraculous score of 9.31
I guess that "relatively consistant" is somewhat correct with the emphasis being on "relatively". :)
Gallant Pig
08-24-04, 06:35 PM
Like I said in another thread, he didn't really get screwed. Ivankov in Rings finals, now he got screwed.
das Monkey
08-24-04, 07:01 PM
• eXcentris •
Tell that to the Canadian ...
That's another rule: Canadians don't count. I didn't mention it because I thought it was obvious.
das
:D
Quake1028
08-24-04, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by das Monkey
Just for the sake of argument, consider that the judging throughout this competition has placed a premium on sticking the landing. He was just another in a long list of competitors to try something new or do something difficult and not get rewarded as much as penalized for the landing. The same thing happened with the women. Although I thought his routine was pretty damn cool, it's not like he was singled out. The judges were relatively consistent in this area.
das
No one stuck the landing last night, so this is irrelevant.
cerulean
08-24-04, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Quake1028
No one stuck the landing last night, so this is irrelevant. Actually, Morgan Hamm stuck his landing cold, and got the same score as Nemov. He won the tiebreaker with Nemov, but lost the other tiebreaker to the Japanese bronze medallist.
It was a really close competition and if Nemov hadn't taken such a big step, he probably would've won. He did have the worst landing of the top 5.
Jericho
08-24-04, 10:28 PM
To play devil's advocate a bit, I will say this. All the athletes last night in the high bar were supposed to be the "best of the best". They all probably had 10.0 or 9.9 start values. All of them basically hit their routines except the landings. Some routines, like the Russian's and the Italian's were amazing. But in terms of difficulty, they were awarded no more points. So maybe there is some sense in the judging.
That being said, I clearly preferred the Russian and the Italian to any of the performances. I would have given them the top two medals, but then again I'm no gymnast expert.
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