I do not see 'The Passion of the Christ' on the DVD 'Coming Soon' list for DVDtalk.
Is this an oversight or an intentional ommission?
I thought that it came out on 8/31.
BTW - 'Southpark: Passion of the Jew' is on it.
RockStrongo
08-23-04, 01:55 PM
Its just my understanding that this site if for informational purposes. I use it as my main source of DVD info.
Either they are being incompetent for missing such a big release or letting their politcal/religious views influence which DVDs they advertise. Either way, I am very disappointed.
If I am incorrect in this, then I apologize.
Matthew Chmiel
08-23-04, 02:08 PM
I would like to know who doesn't know that the film is coming out to DVD on 8/31. All the video stores near my house (Blockbuster, Hollywood, etc.) all have huge posters displaying that the film is coming out 8/31.
Myself, I couldn't care less. As long as I get my hands on The Girl Next Door (Unrated) tomorrow, I'm happy.
Artman
08-23-04, 02:13 PM
Why would their political views influence whether to advertise POTC? Religous views maybe. Will they be selling this disc at the Republican Convention or something?
RockStrongo
08-23-04, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Artman
Why would their political views influence whether to advertise POTC? Religous views maybe. Will they be selling this disc at the Republican Convention or something?
Political can mean a variety of things. I will edit to better clarify.
po·lit·i·cal - Based on or motivated by partisan or self-serving objectives
Flynn
08-23-04, 02:19 PM
I think it's a fair question he's asking. I mean, who doesn't know that a lot of the listed releases are coming out WHEN they're coming out. That coming soon link provides a lot of referral $ for the site, and you'd think they'd have a link for the film.
I hadn't noticed it before now, but it would seem this is just a HUGE oversight.
My .02
RockStrongo
08-23-04, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Matthew Chmiel
I would like to know who doesn't know that the film is coming out to DVD on 8/31. All the video stores near my house (Blockbuster, Hollywood, etc.) all have huge posters displaying that the film is coming out 8/31.
Myself, I couldn't care less. As long as I get my hands on The Girl Next Door (Unrated) tomorrow, I'm happy.
Yeah, it is a big release, but DVDtalk's list should be a comprehensive list no matter what their views.
For instance, they include such titles as Farenheit 9/11 and Southpark: Passion of the Jew. They are controversial titles also that I believe should be on their list even though I do not agree with the topics or filmmakers.
RockStrongo
08-23-04, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Flynn
I think it's a fair question he's asking. I mean, who doesn't know that a lot of the listed releases are coming out WHEN they're coming out. That coming soon link provides a lot of referral $ for the site, and you'd think they'd have a link for the film.
I hadn't noticed it before now, but it would seem this is just a HUGE oversight.
My .02
I don't know about that.
Given the review that Kleinman gave the movie when it was in theaters, my guess is that is not an oversight, but I hope that I am wrong.
It will be interesting to see if they fix it and/or provide reviews of the DVD.
nodeerforamonth
08-23-04, 02:28 PM
They also omit every single WWE disk that comes out, despite every wrestling thread getting thousands of views.
I smell a conspiracy!
RockStrongo
08-23-04, 02:29 PM
For those interested in pre-ordering.....
Amazon Link (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00028HBKM/)
Best Buy Link (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1370728&skuId=6681888&type=product)
DDD Link (http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/redirect.cfm?referral=dvdtalkedt&goto=buyPage&identifier=FXD022991)
wm lopez
08-23-04, 03:16 PM
Hey, some people are againest Christ so live with it.
It was shown in the movie too.
guywall
08-23-04, 03:30 PM
I had wondered when the release date was as well. Still don't find it here, but found it elsewhere. I never go to BB or Hollywood Video, so I don't see those signs.
Thanks for the confirmation!
chente
08-23-04, 03:33 PM
I wasn't aware that it was coming out 8/31
RockStrongo
08-23-04, 03:39 PM
I sent an email to the site owner that informs him of this oversight.
Jackskeleton
08-23-04, 03:51 PM
Yeah, it is a big release, but DVDtalk's list should be a comprehensive list no matter what their views.
For instance, they include such titles as Farenheit 9/11 and Southpark: Passion of the Jew. They are controversial titles also that I believe should be on their list even though I do not agree with the topics or filmmakers.
Hey, sometimes a website screws up. Guess what, the site owner is only human and considering the hundreds of titles that come out and are anounced daily it's not that shocking that one or two of them slip by the cracks.
RockStrongo
08-23-04, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Hey, sometimes a website screws up. Guess what, the site owner is only human and considering the hundreds of titles that come out and are anounced daily it's not that shocking that one or two of them slip by the cracks.
I agree and if it is purely an oversight, then I apologize. Again, I have emailed them, notifying them of it. We will see if they add it.
It just seems like such a big release to be an oversight. And, since Southpark: Passion of a Jew is on there, doesn't it seem like that would have reminded them about POTC?
scott1598
08-23-04, 04:27 PM
rock...i think you are intentionally trying to make a big deal out of nothing! it would seem that you are fervent trying to create a political/religious controversy over a silly issue like a website gone slightly askew the past day or so. POTC was always on their list so for it to be not there now, is absolutely a glitch in the system.
One of the "Zombie" releases used to be there and fell off somehow. Do you think that behemouth of religious and political controversy was ceremoniously dumped because of the DVD Talk powers that be having an agenda?
why don't you e-mail them about all the other ommissions that were there, suddenly left, and came back again instead of creating nothing into something? Also, giving us well known links to buy the disc as if we (DVD Talkers) were so incapabale doesn't help your fight to get the word out if you know what i mean. you come off as a zealot by doing that.
Jackskeleton
08-23-04, 04:58 PM
You mean this site is now Anti-Zombie?! How shocking. I would have expected this sort of base covering at HTF but never at DVDTALK!
Mr. Salty
08-23-04, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by wm lopez
Hey, some people are againest Christ so live with it.
I know this will be lost on you, but people can dislike "The Passion of the Christ" and still not be against Christ Himself.
Flynn
08-23-04, 05:22 PM
Ok, this thread is starting to get weird and nasty. I'm sure it's just an oversight.
Can a moderator see if the title can be added so members can preorder it through the site if they'd like?
This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Christianity. Let's not let this get out of hand.
Good Grief.
hugo1000faces
08-23-04, 05:33 PM
I noticed the same omission and wondered the same thing. I hope this thread will provide an answer.
nodeerforamonth
08-23-04, 05:47 PM
It does seem awfully suspicious. It'd be nice to have an answer.
I wonder on the "What are you buying on Sept 21st?" thread if the Star Wars trilogy will be "accidentally" omitted.
Jackskeleton
08-23-04, 05:57 PM
Jesus! why are people making such a big deal out of this? Most likely it was just lost in a glitch or an update. Nothing hidden in it and creating such drama for a mistake is rather silly if you ask me. I agre with scott. No need to make it such a big deal. Point it out and then if you get a response like "I don't believe in god, go away christian scum" or something like that then don't jump to a conclusion that this is because of any political or religious reasons from the site owner.
LBCrazyFool
08-23-04, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by scott1598
rock...i think you are intentionally trying to make a big deal out of nothing!...
:up:
nodeerforamonth
08-23-04, 06:10 PM
Well it WAS one of the biggest movies of the year!
(btw, I'm more angry about the WWE releases always being omitted.)
chente
08-23-04, 06:15 PM
I smell fix....
;)
Matt Millheiser
08-23-04, 06:19 PM
You know who's responsible for astroturf? That's right: the same people who left Passion of the Christ off of the coming-soon list!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
nodeerforamonth
08-23-04, 06:29 PM
To those doubters, here's a question: What's other movies that made over 100 million have been omitted from the "What are you buying this Tuesday" threads?
My guess: there are no other movies.
If you can find one, I'll be more inclined to think it was an accident.
GeoffK
08-23-04, 07:30 PM
Fox is not servicing this title to online press. Our comming soon list is tied to our review database. So if it's not coming for review, it isn't going to be listed on our site.
If you have issues with it not being on our list, please address them with fox who has decided not to send final product of this DVD to online outlets.
Static Cling
08-23-04, 08:28 PM
Wait... you mean there was ANOTHER explanation that the conspiracy theorists didn't account for?!
P.S. Geoff, you need to make sure that you erase this thread (http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=363326&highlight=passion)... it was started way back in May by Mao, one of our very own moderators! If someone were to search for "passion" in the main forum, they'd find it in seconds! For someone that's intentionally against this movie, you really dropped the ball here.
P.P.S. Black Helicoper #4 has been dispatched to take care of Mao. He'll be having a little "accident" later on tonight.
sracer
08-23-04, 09:31 PM
Ummm, you're forgetting the "tin foil hats"! They're the only known jamming device for those helicopters. :lol:
RockStrongo
08-23-04, 10:13 PM
I just thought that it was an odd occurance.
When seeing that the film was not on the list, I remembered Geoff's review of the film and jumped to conclusions.
I apologize if I offended anyone, that was not my intention.
Will you guys be reviewing it at all?
stevevt
08-23-04, 10:15 PM
Jesus is coming! Look busy.
Jackskeleton
08-23-04, 10:20 PM
Will you guys be reviewing it at all?
I would most certainly like a review of the adventures of this Jesus fellow. I have never heard of him or his whacky zanny adventures. So hearing what they are all about and how it turned out would be something I would be interested in . :o
Sierra Disc
08-24-04, 07:21 PM
I hear he dies at the end.
Bandoman
08-24-04, 07:26 PM
<--- As a nun this issue is very close to my heart. I fucking want that fucking movie on the fucking release list!
nevermind
08-24-04, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Bandonun
<--- As a nun this issue is very close to my heart. I fucking want that fucking movie on the fucking release list!
Fuckin' A! :thumbsup:
Joe Molotov
08-24-04, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by Sierra Disc
I hear he dies at the end.
Well, you heard wrong.
At the end, he lives.
Jackskeleton
08-25-04, 03:55 AM
Just aslong as he hangs around for a bit. Cause I wouldn't want him leaving before like the third day or anything.
Numanoid
08-26-04, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by gkleinman
Fox is not servicing this title to online press. Our comming soon list is tied to our review database. So if it's not coming for review, it isn't going to be listed on our site. So you only promote the release of DVDs which will be given to you free-of-charge for review? Is that what you're saying?
Jackskeleton
08-26-04, 01:51 AM
He's saying is that for those who scratch his back in doing his job as a dvd rewviewing site, he scratches theirs.
Besides like he said, the site's coming soon section is based off those that come in. makes sense and doesn't sound like he is playing favorites.
GeoffK
08-26-04, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Numanoid
So you only promote the release of DVDs which will be given to you free-of-charge for review? Is that what you're saying?
Nope.
We cover the DVDs which studios are servicing press with. We promote the DVDs which we think people are interested in. Two very different things.
Don't make it sound like anything more than it is. We're an online magazine, and act like a magazine... You don't see Maxium/Stuff/Blender/Etc covering the DVD release either do ya?
Adam Tyner
08-26-04, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Numanoid
So you only promote the release of DVDs which will be given to you free-of-charge for review? Is that what you're saying?
Although Geoff already correctly said "no", looking at the review database should provide a clear, unambiguous answer to that question. There are more titles on that list each week than there are corresponding reviews.
RockStrongo
08-26-04, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by gkleinman
Nope.
We cover the DVDs which studios are servicing press with. We promote the DVDs which we think people are interested in. Two very different things.
Don't make it sound like anything more than it is. We're an online magazine, and act like a magazine... You don't see Maxium/Stuff/Blender/Etc covering the DVD release either do ya?
Yes, you are a magazine, but you specialize in DVDs whereas those that you mention do not.
I think we just found it odd that a major release was not on the release list. We are unfamiliar with your site structure (at least I am).
When I make a list of things that I want to buy, I use your list as a guide. When I heard that TPOTC was coming out, I found it odd that I had not added it to my 'buy' list. It just seemed odd to me.
Now, I know that I need to use a different list since yours is not comprehensive.
Gil Jawetz
08-26-04, 04:32 PM
There are two ways a DVD ends up getting reviewed here: Either (1) a screener is sent by the distributor to Geoff who then sends it to a reviewer (or reviews it himself) or (2) a reviewer buys the DVD on their own for their own collection and then decides to write a review and post it.
In this case it seems that a reviewer will have to buy a copy to review it. There's a good chance that that'll never happen. ;)
Adam Tyner
08-26-04, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by RockStrongo
Now, I know that I need to use a different list since yours is not comprehensive.
How many comprehensive lists are online?
If I'm counting correctly, Movie Poop Shoot lists 51 releases for this week, and ComingSoon.net lists 55. DVD Talk lists 61. Amazon has close to 300, although they include price drops in that number.
RockStrongo
08-26-04, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Adam Tyner
How many comprehensive lists are online?
If I'm counting correctly, Movie Poop Shoot lists 51 releases for this week, and ComingSoon.net lists 55. DVD Talk lists 61. Amazon has close to 300, although they include price drops in that number.
Thats a good question. Who knows what those other sites criteria is for making the list?
My problem with DVDtalk is that it sounds like they could exclude some major releases if they arent available for review. I am sure the TPOTC is not the first or last.
I guess its not a big issue, but it just seems like major releases should be added once they are announced by a studio.
If I find another list, I will post it. :)
BTW - dvdpricesearch.com has a good one and it has 183 on their list for 8/31 release.
Gil Jawetz
08-26-04, 04:47 PM
FWIW, it's rare for a major and even most minor releases to be excluded from DVD review the way POTC is. It's more common in theatrical release when a movie is a turkey (like Alien Vs Predator). In my 4 years writing reviews here i can't recall any other major releases that were shuffled past the review process like this. Pretty weird.
RockStrongo
08-26-04, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Gil Jawetz
FWIW, it's rare for a major and even most minor releases to be excluded from DVD review the way POTC is. It's more common in theatrical release when a movie is a turkey (like Alien Vs Predator). In my 4 years writing reviews here i can't recall any other major releases that were shuffled past the review process like this. Pretty weird.
Hmm...thats odd I guess. Maybe FOX is trying to avoid bad reviews based on the subject. Who knows though!?!
It will probably be a big seller whether critics review it badly or not though. Oh well, I guess we shall see.
Gil Jawetz
08-26-04, 05:07 PM
It's especially weird because so many people have already seen it. It seems like it's either a paranoid mel gibson conspiracy thing or the discs won't be ready until the last possible second.
GeoffK
08-26-04, 05:11 PM
The thinking behind selecting titles for our coming soon list is that most people don't want a list of ALL the DVDs coming out every week as it's a pain in the ass to sort through price reductions, specialty product and full frame versions.
ALL real publications have some sort of editorial voice. Each week we focus on certain title which we select as notable. Other sites or publications might select different ones. You're more than welcome to use another sites resource if it fits your needs better, we have a specific focus and will continue that focus.
Also this crap with The Passion is exactly that. CRAP.
Gil Jawetz
08-26-04, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by gkleinman
Also this crap with The Passion is exactly that. CRAP.
To those who suspected that the Passion thing was some sort of DVDTalk related flap, I gotta say Geoff operates with the highest of integrity. Not once has he EVER suggested anything should be customized in terms of editorial content or altering of opinion. Hats off to him since I'm sure he gets pressure from studios (something he never passes on to reviewers, which is another check in his plus column.)
GeoffK
08-26-04, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Gil Jawetz
To those who suspected that the Passion thing was some sort of DVDTalk related flap, I gotta say Geoff operates with the highest of integrity. Not once has he EVER suggested anything should be customized in terms of editorial content or altering of opinion. Hats off to him since I'm sure he gets pressure from studios (something he never passes on to reviewers, which is another check in his plus column.)
Thanks for the props Gil!
Knowing the DVD Talk Review Panel, I'm sure someone on that panel is going to rent/buy the disc and submit a review anyway. But we'll see.
BradJ
08-26-04, 07:56 PM
I think we lost the fun again. :(
Gil Jawetz
08-26-04, 08:06 PM
Was there ever any fun in the feedback forum? :hscratch:
GeoffK
08-31-04, 06:57 PM
As predicted.... One of our reviewers HAS reviewed the film:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=12121
chanster
08-31-04, 10:45 PM
Wow! And a movie with no extras gets a DVD Talk Collector's Series.! Sure. Whatever. That makes a lot of sense.
darkside
08-31-04, 11:03 PM
5 star replay value?
It was a good film for what it was, a passion play, but the violence is not something I would want to watch over and over. I can't think of a less rewatchable film than this one.
I realize this is a film that moves emotions in Christians, but if I'm going to choose a film about Jesus and give it the DVD Talk Collector's Series its going to be the excellent Jesus of Nazareth or thought provoking Last Temptation of Christ. This film is nothing more than pure shock value to shake up people.
Dabaomb
09-01-04, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Bandini
<--- As a nun this issue is very close to my heart. I fucking want that fucking movie on the fucking release list!
you're not a nun anymore :mad:
GizmoDVD
09-01-04, 07:08 PM
Last I checked DVDtalk was free... Your not paying for it, so stop with the whining. If you don't like it, go to the other DVD websites which list Passion as coming out. You obviously arn't much of a DVD fan if you didn't even know when POTC was coming out (I have NO intentions of EVER seeing this movie and I knew it was coming out)
RyoHazuki
09-01-04, 07:25 PM
It is kinda weird that on the homepage, the big new release picture is of South Park: Passion of the Jew.
Gil Jawetz
09-01-04, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by RyoHazuki
It is kinda weird that on the homepage, the big new release picture is of South Park: Passion of the Jew.
Yes... It's weird... And Fahrenheit 9/11 is right below it... Something strange is going on here... I'm figuring out what it is... Kleinman does sound awful jewish... Wait a minute... I'm having a thought...
Nope, it's gone.
-ohbfrank-
Static Cling
09-01-04, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by chanster
Wow! And a movie with no extras gets a DVD Talk Collector's Series.! Sure. Whatever. That makes a lot of sense. First Geoff gets crap for the disc not being on the release list. Now he's getting crap because the disc was rated too high? The guy can't win. :)
Jackskeleton
09-01-04, 11:03 PM
Well lets be honest static, that review for reply value is a bit one sided. Can we get Kevin smith to review it? I want to hear a lot of "FUCK" in the review for passions. ;) :p
the collectors series review should be saved for when the Collectors edition comes out that will most likely have extras and so forth.
Then again I disagree with a lot of the reviews. ;) Look at the first disc of Azumanga and look at the reviews now. Shows I was right. :o
DonnachaOne
09-01-04, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by chanster
Wow! And a movie with no extras gets a DVD Talk Collector's Series.! Sure. Whatever. That makes a lot of sense. I can't really agree with that either. A "Highly Reccomended", I could abide... but you're putting this near-bare-bones release in the same league as the three-disc The Leopard? A release like the Singin' In The Rain SE?
Maybe it has more to do with Kim Morgan, who has less than twenty reviews, but has already given out a "DVD Talk Collectors' Series" rating FIVE times... twice to movies that were still in theaters and weren't even on DVD yet! :D
Matt Millheiser
09-01-04, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by DonnachaOne
I can't really agree with that either. A "Highly Reccomended", I could abide... but you're putting this near-bare-bones release in the same league as the three-disc The Leopard? A release like the Singin' In The Rain SE?
Maybe it has more to do with Kim Morgan, who has less than twenty reviews, but has already given out a "DVD Talk Collectors' Series" rating FIVE times... twice to movies that were still in theaters and weren't even on DVD yet! :D Yeah, but haven't you heard? She's like, totally hot.
Seriously though, ratings vary from reviewer to reviewer, so take everything with a grain of salt. I personally thought Challenge of the Superfriends was worth a "Highly Recommended" rating, and got some nasty email because it was a "lame" show that "only had commentary on two episodes", etc.. It's all relative. As in, all of my relatives hate me.
das Monkey
09-02-04, 12:18 AM
If only someone would suggest a way to improve the DVD Talk Collector Series rating ... nah ...
;)
das
chanster
09-02-04, 12:58 AM
I demand a recount of this rating. Something stinks in Denmark and sure wasn't Mel's performance in Hamlet.
RyoHazuki
09-02-04, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Gil Jawetz
Yes... It's weird... And Fahrenheit 9/11 is right below it... Something strange is going on here... I'm figuring out what it is... Kleinman does sound awful jewish... Wait a minute... I'm having a thought...
Nope, it's gone.
-ohbfrank- Don't you think its slightly odd that a dvd release this big wouldn't even be pictured with this weeks dvd releases while a South Park single disc with 3 episodes gets a picture?
Static Cling
09-02-04, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Well lets be honest static, that review for reply value is a bit one sided. I don't know if I'm understanding you, but if by "one sided," you mean "one person's (possibly biased) opinion," then of course the review is one-sided. That's what a review is. It's one person's opinion of a film, not a dialogue between him and others (unless that person's name is Siskel, Ebert, or Roeper).
darkside
09-02-04, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Static Cling
I don't know if I'm understanding you, but if by "one sided," you mean "one person's (possibly biased) opinion," then of course the review is one-sided.
I think by "one sided" he meant "insane". Which after reading her other reviews I totally agree with.
But still, she is hot and I learned to agree with hot chicks a long time ago no matter what the topic.
GeoffK
09-02-04, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Static Cling
First Geoff gets crap for the disc not being on the release list. Now he's getting crap because the disc was rated too high? The guy can't win. :)
Yeah, this whole thread sucks.
It's a clear example that no matter what you do, someone will find fault in it.
Jackskeleton
09-02-04, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Static Cling
I don't know if I'm understanding you, but if by "one sided," you mean "one person's (possibly biased) opinion," then of course the review is one-sided. That's what a review is. It's one person's opinion of a film, not a dialogue between him and others (unless that person's name is Siskel, Ebert, or Roeper).
Well, I suppose I was trying to get at is that perhaps a review that isn't from someone close to the source or devoted to it. Say that example of Azumanga. I loved the show before the dvd hit. So having me review it would be terrible for grammar purposes but most of all it wouldn't be open minded enough to make a solid review of it.
The reviewer did a good job of telling it how it is with azumanga vol 1 and you see how they expand that review through the rest of the volumes.
For a high rank like this to come from a film with no extras seems very odd to say the least.
But then agian having people claim that gkleinman had some sort of secret agenda behind not having this on the coming soon list seems beyond stupid.
Oh well, can't win them all.
Gil Jawetz
09-02-04, 12:06 PM
It's all so mysterious: This supremely divisive film continues to wreak annoyance even long after it's forgotten.
auto
09-02-04, 01:05 PM
At this point, I wish Geoff did have a secret agenda and this film would just go away. Silly movie, silly thread.
Adam Tyner
09-02-04, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
So having me review it would be terrible for grammar purposes but most of all it wouldn't be open minded enough to make a solid review of it.
I don't agree with that. A good reviewer should be able to take a step back, and I think going into a review having seen the movie before can be very beneficial. There are movies I've seen before where I was initially extremely enthusiastic, but with a second or third viewing, that exuberance had been pretty thoroughly dulled. Similarly, there are times when I didn't much care for a movie the first time through, but I really warmed up to it when I watched it again. Having some level of familiarity with the material can help iron out some of that. Going into the review already having formed a strong opinion can make them more interesting and less...clinical as well. I would steer away from assigning a screener to someone who had already seen the movie and hated it. I don't think there's anything wrong with passing a copy to someone who really likes it, though, as long as they're able to say why they feel that way and aren't so blinded as to be unable to point out its flaws. Even though I'm about as fiercely rabid a fan of Buffy and Angel as they come, I think my reviews are still pretty honest. Long and rambling, sure, but they convey how I feel without me being blinded by my fandom.
adamblast
09-02-04, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by darkside
5 star replay value?
It was a good film for what it was, a passion play, but the violence is not something I would want to watch over and over. I can't think of a less rewatchable film than this one. Are you kidding me? It's practically as good as Texas Chainsaw Massacre!! :)
RockStrongo
09-09-04, 09:51 AM
Well, at the very least, DVDtalk should change their text on the main page that says....
Read our complete list of Upcoming DVDs.
It should not say 'complete' if some titles will not be included. It is misleading.
Gil Jawetz
09-09-04, 10:09 AM
Why? It's our complete list. You know the list we have?... that's all of it! ;)
RockStrongo
09-09-04, 10:22 AM
Hehe....I was expecting that response.
I just think it is misleading because many people use your list to purchase movies. I used it up until I found out that it actually isn't complete.
I understand that you cannot include EVERY dvd that is released, but IMO big name releases should be manually added even if you are not going to receive a copy for review.
Has this never happened before?
Gil Jawetz
09-09-04, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by RockStrongo
Has this never happened before?
As we discussed, we can't remember such a major release not being sent to critics and the release list is tied to the review database. If Gibson et al don't want their DVD reviewed before the release date then that's their problem. Are they hiding something? It's all so weird since the movie had already played theatrically. Everything about this film and its release pattern is weird. I do agree with other posts and just wish it would go away forever.
Minor Threat
09-10-04, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by RockStrongo
Hehe....I was expecting that response.
I just think it is misleading because many people use your list to purchase movies. I used it up until I found out that it actually isn't complete.
I understand that you cannot include EVERY dvd that is released, but IMO big name releases should be manually added even if you are not going to receive a copy for review.
Has this never happened before?
It's really pretty simple.....
If the movie isn't included on the list, don't buy it through the affiliate links.
Gil Jawetz
09-11-04, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Minor Threat
It's really pretty simple.....
If the movie isn't included on the list, don't buy it through the affiliate links.
Oh good grief. I mean, do that if you want, but if you enjoy this site and use it all the time and appreciate the incredible amount of work that Geoff does to let you access these resources for free then you can always hit the affiliate links that the top of the page and search for the stuff you wanna buy when you get there.
I mean, have you ever designed a web page this big? It needs a system and the system these guys came up with works 99% of the time (statistic not scientifically accurate). It's only when the asshats who made that Jebus movie decide they won't invite any online reviewers to their party and won't give them any cake that the system fails. A review still got written and affiliate links still can be used. Not using them just to make some sort of point is silly.
Get Me Coffee
09-12-04, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Minor Threat
It's really pretty simple.....
If the movie isn't included on the list, don't buy it through the affiliate links.
I hardly ever use the affiliate links.
The Cow
09-12-04, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Get Me Coffee
I hardly ever use the affiliate links.
Great to see you showing your support -rolleyes-
Get Me Coffee
09-12-04, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by The Cow
Great to see you showing your support -rolleyes-
Buy: