It is about a serial killer that tortures his victims mentally into killing themselves.
Cary Elwes is in it, I didn't recognize anyone else. It looked a lot like Se7en, which is fine with me.
Any thoughts on it yet? The trailer has me digging it. Though I wish they had called it "Jigsaw" (the newspaper name for the killer) instead of just "Saw".
The Valeyard
08-21-04, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Joem
I didn't recognize anyone else, and Brent Ratner is directing.
Actually, James Wan directed it. Danny Glover and Dina Meyer are also in it. Here's the IMDB Listing:
Saw (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387564/)
The trailers are pretty freaky and I'm seriously interested in seeing it.
Andrew
Corvin
08-21-04, 01:20 AM
Yes. I will be seeing this. The earlier trailers were even creepier.
necros
08-21-04, 01:31 AM
It looks like it will be cool, I'm really hoping it doesn't end up being another fear.com
johnglass
08-21-04, 07:13 AM
There is already a thread on it, although it is hard to find with a three-letter title.
Well bleh. I searched for it and had no luck, so started one.
Also, I goofed on my trailers. We also saw a trailer for After the Sunset, and that's why Ratner was in my mind. I'll go edit it, my bad.
Seantn
08-21-04, 10:46 AM
I saw this film in February. I can't believe how much praise it's getting. I was bored to tears. I think this film will suffer from Blair Witch syndrome: Being overhyped to the point of people expecting to die from fear in the theaters.
Blair Witch's poster had the tagline "SCARY AS HELL" from the Rolling Stone review. Now, if you found Blair Witch 'scary as hell', then maybe you'll like saw. I found it boring as hell. The acting is really terrible among the two male leads (Especially Cary Elwes, surprisingly). I went with 5 other people, and they all had the same reaction.
I've noticed that on sites such as Bloody-Disgusting.com they are saying it's the most terrifying and freaky movie in years. Um....It's got a few nifty ideas in it for killing people, yeah, i'll give it that. But other than those scenes, I was really let down.
Joem
08-21-04, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Seantn
I saw this film in February. I can't believe how much praise it's getting. I was bored to tears.
This is disappointing to hear. :(
I was really looking forward to seeing this film, hopefully I'll disagree with ya after I see it. FWIW, I thought Blair Witch was fantastic, so maybe there's some hope.
neatMCsammer
08-21-04, 01:35 PM
I'm still psyched for it! But I am a little disappointed that it had to be cut to get an R-rating. Oh well, maybe the DVD will be unrated.
scott shelton
08-21-04, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Seantn
I think this film will suffer from Blair Witch syndrome: Being overhyped to the point of people expecting to die from fear in the theaters.
It's working for Lions Gate right now with OPEN WATER. I'm sure it will work from them again with SAW.
RyoHazuki
08-21-04, 03:27 PM
There was an extremley positive review posted on Aint-it-cool but that really doesnt mean to much.
PalmerJoss
08-21-04, 03:42 PM
Based solely on the amazing trailer, I have every intention of seeing this movie. I'm a fan of Cary Elwes, and the last film he did like this(Kiss The Girls) was pretty good.
Obey The D
08-21-04, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by PalmerJoss
Based solely on the amazing trailer, I have every intention of seeing this movie.
You've got to love any trailer that uses the tagline:
"How fucked up is that?"
asianxcore
08-21-04, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Seantn
Blair Witch's poster had the tagline "SCARY AS HELL" from the Rolling Stone review. Now, if you found Blair Witch 'scary as hell', then maybe you'll like saw. I
I remember that. Quick trailer, and that tagline that it was scarier than the exorcist or something. My stepdad and I wasted 2 free movie passes to see Blair Witch.
As for Saw the trailer looks neat, but I don't want to keep my hopes up for it, as it does look like it could go either way.
Seantn
08-21-04, 05:46 PM
You've got to love any trailer that uses that tagline:
Well, you don't HAVE to love it. It should have been used in the Catwoman trailer.
"HOW FUCKED UP IS THAT".
Would you have liked that trailer then? No...but it would have been interesting!
Joe Molotov
08-21-04, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Seantn
Well, you don't HAVE to love it. It should have been used in the Catwoman trailer.
"HOW FUCKED UP IS THAT".
Would you have liked that trailer then? No...but it would have been interesting!
It also would have been truthful advertising. :lol:
Dr. DVD
09-30-04, 10:32 AM
Movie looks interesting.
Cornholio
09-30-04, 02:22 PM
it looks awesome. it might be very cool and scary.
UKingdom
10-01-04, 04:46 AM
for those who saw it, can you provide some spoiler tagged comments on the film and what happens, what you did and didn't like about it?
Dr. DVD
10-01-04, 09:27 AM
I've actually read that the movie isn't as gory as one would be lead to believe and that a lot of the stuff is left to the imagination like Se7en. I also read that the movie relies almost entirely on its concept and does nothing to make you care about the characters.
Rival11
10-01-04, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Seantn
I saw this film in February. I can't believe how much praise it's getting. I was bored to tears. I think this film will suffer from Blair Witch syndrome: Being overhyped to the point of people expecting to die from fear in the theaters.
Blair Witch's poster had the tagline "SCARY AS HELL" from the Rolling Stone review. Now, if you found Blair Witch 'scary as hell', then maybe you'll like saw. I found it boring as hell. The acting is really terrible among the two male leads (Especially Cary Elwes, surprisingly). I went with 5 other people, and they all had the same reaction.
I've noticed that on sites such as Bloody-Disgusting.com they are saying it's the most terrifying and freaky movie in years. Um....It's got a few nifty ideas in it for killing people, yeah, i'll give it that. But other than those scenes, I was really let down.
I was honestly afraid of hearing something like this, and now I'm pissed.
When the Blair Witch was released, I still had some hope going into it because of the "sigh"....original way it was filmed. But to hear Seantn down it the way he did.....I know he's not full of shit and that he wouldn't disgrace the film for no reason - I'm very upset at this - to hear a fellow member of the forum who wouldn't bash it for no reason and honestly say it sucked, well, I'm let down.......but I'll prob. still fall victim to the "I just got to see it!!" bullshit.
scott shelton
10-05-04, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Seantn
I saw this film in February. I can't believe how much praise it's getting. I was bored to tears.
Watched it yesterday, and I'll take it one further: this is one of the worst films of the year.
Polish up that Razzie for Cary Elwes...dear lord was he bad. And that's saying something when his co-stars are Monica Potter and Danny Glover.
It's SHOWGIRLS for 2004. Don't let Lions Gate's publicity machine fool you.
Jaymole
03-15-05, 03:10 PM
Just rented this film and boy was it a disappointment, which is surprising as I wasn't expecting much. The film has some interesting ideas, however they couldn't sustain the bad dialogue, characters I didn't care about, way too flashy direction (I felt as if I was watching a Marilyn Manson video), and bad acting.
Speaking of bad acting, I must echo Scott Shelton, Cary Elwes gave one of the worst performances I've seen in a long time, especially towards the end of the film when he was over-acting like crazy. And what was with that clown makeup they gave him, it looked ridiculous! By the end of the film he was whiter than Michael Jackson.
Oh, and I was in awe at the line which was voiced by one of the detectives about the bad guy; "he really can't be called a murderer". If you believe this statement then I'm guessing you had no problem with the logic of this film.
fumanstan
03-15-05, 03:24 PM
Just rented this film and boy was it a disappointment, which is surprising as I wasn't expecting much. The film has some interesting ideas, however they couldn't sustain the bad dialogue, characters I didn't care about, way too flashy direction (I felt as if I was watching a Marilyn Manson video), and bad acting.
Speaking of bad acting, I must echo Scott Shelton, Cary Elwes gave one of the worst performances I've seen in a long time, especially towards the end of the film when he was over-acting like crazy. And what was with that clown makeup they gave him, it looked ridiculous! By the end of the film he was whiter than Michael Jackson.
Oh, and I was in awe at the line which was voiced by one of the detectives about the bad guy; "he really can't be called a murderer". If you believe this statement then I'm guessing you had no problem with the logic of this film.
Hmm, i thought a similar line was said by Elwes' character towards the end of the film, although it might have been said previously by one of the detectives too.
Jaymole
03-15-05, 07:11 PM
Hmm, i thought a similar line was said by Elwes' character towards the end of the film, although it might have been said previously by one of the detectives too.
I'm not sure about the end, but it was definitely said by the Asian detective in the middle of the film.
Ketamine
03-15-05, 08:32 PM
I also agree, I was amazed how bad the acting was in the movie. Cary Elwes alone dropped this movie from an average movie to a bad one. The ending was the only thing that did anything for me on this one and even that wasn't much.
tek2k
03-15-05, 08:36 PM
I saw this film in February. I can't believe how much praise it's getting. I was bored to tears. I think this film will suffer from Blair Witch syndrome: Being overhyped to the point of people expecting to die from fear in the theaters.
Blair Witch's poster had the tagline "SCARY AS HELL" from the Rolling Stone review. Now, if you found Blair Witch 'scary as hell', then maybe you'll like saw. I found it boring as hell. The acting is really terrible among the two male leads (Especially Cary Elwes, surprisingly). I went with 5 other people, and they all had the same reaction.
I've noticed that on sites such as Bloody-Disgusting.com they are saying it's the most terrifying and freaky movie in years. Um....It's got a few nifty ideas in it for killing people, yeah, i'll give it that. But other than those scenes, I was really let down.
well that's just YOUR opinion.
i thought blair witch was horrible and saw was good. can't please everyone you know. especially with all these guys on dvdtalk that have such great taste in movies. i was just kidding about that last part.
i don't watch movies based on "critics" reviews, or reviews from friends. so far everyone in this thread has said they hated the movie. is that because you don't want to get flamed? i'm pretty sure there were many people who enjoyed it.
fumanstan
03-15-05, 10:21 PM
i'm pretty sure there were many people who enjoyed it.
:wave:
Rival11
03-15-05, 10:32 PM
Once again.........................I absolutely love this fucking movie.
Thanks.
TheGodfather
03-15-05, 10:52 PM
I just watched this movie the other day for the first time and I liked it alot.
I agree that Elwes really sucked. He gave a Keanu Reeves-like perf, complete with some laughable deliveries. But I liked the story and the direction. It had a real '80's low budget horror feel to it. But also a gritty, real side. I really enjoyed it despite Elwes' dumpy turn.
natevines
03-15-05, 10:53 PM
It was decent. I have to agree with one reviewer who said that he was eager for much of the film to return to the room where the two characters are imprisoned. The rest of the film was a bit insipid, but those parts were brilliant. And don't tell me you predicted that ending :)
MasterCXtreme
03-15-05, 11:00 PM
I thought it was pretty awesome. I got a big kick out of it.
jpdude
03-16-05, 12:29 AM
I never SAW this one......yet.
cactusoly
03-16-05, 12:43 AM
I loved it.... but I am a warped individual. :eyebrow:
troystiffler
03-27-05, 02:12 PM
Just watched, and like it.
I didn't have any problems with Ewles' performance. The woman who played his wife wasn't that good. But there's not many women out there who can really pull off terrific horror performances.
I could have done without the three or four flashback montages. They really felt like they 'dumbed down' everything, just when I was busy guessing and assembling for myself.
The 'car chase' was edited together badly. Though this is one of the FIRST MOVIES that has used the hyper-time-lapse-thing to their advantage.
The only weak scenes were the mother/daughter ones.
Unfortunately, I read a very small spoiler about the end. So I was waiting for it. I saw the twist of the orderly's role. ALSO, I saw the twist of who the actual killer was. I almost wish it was 'just some guy'. After those Ahsley Judd movies, it just seems to common that it's "some guy that you remember from that little scene".
I would have preferred to sell a little bit more resolve at the end. I would have liked to see the killer at least running up behind Ewels. But I was more than satisfied with that last, desperate, shot of him closing the door on Adam.
It held my attention throughout. The twists were fun. I kept guessing through the whole thing. Not sure if I'll ever watch it again, though.
HUGE props to the last shot. I loved it!
The Bus
03-27-05, 04:36 PM
I thought Saw was the best American "scary movie" from last year and extremely good considering its low budget. If there were better movies from last year, please let me know. I'd love to see them.
Trigger
03-27-05, 06:11 PM
Dead Birds was way better than Saw and had a much lower budget.
scott shelton
03-28-05, 12:17 AM
I thought Saw was the best American "scary movie" from last year and extremely good considering its low budget. If there were better movies from last year, please let me know. I'd love to see them.
Better movies, or better HORROR movies? Please clarify.
The Bus
03-28-05, 07:59 AM
Better movies, or better HORROR movies? Please clarify.
Better horror movies. I'm not saying Saw is the best!!! ever!!! but if there were better horror movies from last year, I'd love to get them.
freudguy
03-28-05, 10:20 AM
It does leave you wondering if Cary Elwes' character did indeed get away or if cancer guy got him.
The sequel gets under way later this year so I wonder if it will be more of the same or not. Actually, if cancer guy is terminal, how many sequels could they make? Granted, someone else could take over but that would just be damn lame.
Chrisedge
03-28-05, 10:40 AM
SAW it the other night, and I really liked it. (For what it was) Cary was scary though...What was with the makeup?
animalmystic
03-28-05, 03:30 PM
Blair Witch is about as good as shit on a stick.
Saw was decent, it def had me guessing at times, Cary's performance was a little over the top at times, but I could handle it. I will def check out the sequel
brianluvdvd
03-28-05, 08:42 PM
I don't really get the Blair Witch comparisons but I liked Blair Witch and thought it was spooky in parts (although it has been quite some time since I have seen it).
Saw was never scary, spooky or even goose-bump producing. The ways to die were inventive but that is the only positive thing. The sound is pretty good and quite agressive (there...one more positive thing).
The acting is atrocious especially by Cary Elwes. I think it would have been more enjoyable with an unknown actor in his place. It truly is the worst Amercian accent attempt ever by an English actor. Horrible. And I have to agree that the make-up was quite bad. He actually made me laugh quite a bit which is never a good way to keep your focus for a horror film. Did anyone also get the feeling that Danny Glover just seemed lost while filming this movie? He just seems out of it (and not just for his character).
The ending was lame as well. When it was over my wife and I just looked at each other and laughed. (She hated Blair Witch for what it's worth.)
Just curious what you guys thought of this:
So a guy is given a slow acting poison and just doesn't go to an ER to seek help? What would you do? Also...the killer is obviously a control freak but we are supposed to accept that he just lays there completely still the entire time while another part of his master plan (the situation with the orderly) is going on? And to expect that he never moved a muscle and did this awesome make-up job with the head and everything...it just seemed to stretch my reason. And how long can a terminal man with brain cancer go on? Doesn't this movie stretch over a couple of years?
Trelach24
04-18-05, 02:12 AM
Just saw it tonight for the first time. I thought the ending totally saved the movie. I was pissed that it was so obvious that the orderly was the killer since that was so obvious from his needless scene early on. They really got me with that one.
I have to admit, about halfway through I was openly saying that it sucked, but I thought the end was really good. I actually want to watch it again now.
One question though:
Was the killer going to let Adam go at the end? I thought he was. He told him that the key was in the bathtub and I think he was going to leave Adam alone until Adam tried to shoot him. Then the killer said something like "most people would be happy just to be alive....but not you" and turned off the lights and closed the door.
BTW, this thread is damn hard to search for.
fmian
04-18-05, 08:07 AM
This is a reply to trelach's post above.
The key was lost down the plughole during the opening sequence of the movie. So Adam could not have unlocked his chains. How the killer knew the keys would be lost like that, I have no idea. The killer didn't treat Adam as a threat until he thought he would shoot because Adam was chained up and out of range of the killer.
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