since the movie came to america this year, but in other countries last year,is it possible to be nominated for american awards like the oscars or the golden globes?
Crocker Jarmen
08-20-04, 04:32 PM
Yes. It is eligible for nominations the year it is released in the States.
I remember that Mexican sex movie (which is beloved on the forum, so someone will probabely yell at me for not remembering it's title) was nominated for Best Forgein film one year, and the fallowing year, after it was released in the US, it was eligible to be nominated for Best Screenplay.
Mr. Salty
08-20-04, 05:33 PM
"Y Tu Mama Rambien"
PalmerJoss
08-20-04, 05:49 PM
Same deal with Hero. It was nominated for the Best Foreign Film Oscar in 2002 and is finally getting it's Stateside release this year, so it could be in contention for Oscars as well.
Seantn
08-20-04, 05:57 PM
"Legally possible" Haha :) As if someone were to nominate it, they would be arrested on the spot.
William Fuld
08-20-04, 05:58 PM
Rypro,
What nominations do you think Dogville deserves?
Rypro 525
08-20-04, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by PalmerJoss
Same deal with Hero. It was nominated for the Best Foreign Film Oscar in 2002 and is finally getting it's Stateside release this year, so it could be in contention for Oscars as well. i thought that once a movie has been nominated one year, it can't be nominated again.
Mao
08-20-04, 10:49 PM
If it was submitted in the Foreign Language category by it's country during one year, but not released in L.A. county until one or 2 years later, it is still eligible for any award other than Foreign Language film.
Mao
08-20-04, 10:50 PM
Rypro 525,
By the way, I think "Dogville" is easily one of the year's ten best so far...
QuikSilver
08-21-04, 05:48 PM
I hope Nicole Kidman gets some sort of recognition for her amazing performance in this small film.
ChefWinduAZ
08-22-04, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by QuikSilver
I hope Nicole Kidman gets some sort of recognition for her amazing performance in this small film.
I don't think she would want it since she refused to do the rest of the films in the trilogy. She has since been replaced with Bryce Dallas Howard.
conscience
08-22-04, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Salty
"Y Tu Mama Tambien"
Fixed.
And yes it can be considered as others have said.
Rypro 525
08-26-04, 11:08 AM
i attempted to watch the movie last night but couldn't get through the first hour and 15 minutes. it was so god damn slow, and literally nothing happened. i also couldn't get past that the entire movie took place on a blueprint.
Cygnet74
08-26-04, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Rypro 525
and literally nothing happened.
allow me to try to explain what was happening. dogville is an allegory. each character represents something beyond an individual. and the town of dogville represents humanity, although by the film’s end it’s clearly meant to represent a peculiar section of humanity -- americans. allegory distances us from the real world and allows us to see more concisely the way things are.
in this light, the film is about a nation that believes itself to be the bearer of freedom and justice to the world -- a belief that often contradicts the nation’s actions toward it’s own citizens. one of the most common criticisms of america by foreigners is that we don’t practice what we preach.
but for me, dogville makes more sense when seen as a religious film rather than a political one. the film specifically sets itself up as having a God-like point-of-view. the title cards are providential, telling the viewer what will happen before it does. the opening shot is literally a God-like POV: it descends from a height and looks down upon the town and its chalk outlines. the wall-less, roof-less sets mean that everything is visible at all times. the eyes of God see all.
"Grace" (kidman) becomes a christ-like theological signifier of grace, an eternally suffering servant. and what are the consequences of rejecting the saving grace of christ, as the townspeople reject Grace? damnation, according to every christian denomination that claims such a thing is possible and knowable.
a relevant scene is near the end between Grace and her father who has come to rescue her from the abuse she suffered at the hands of the townspeople. Grace begins the conversation wanting to save them, but her father talks her out of it on the basis of the necessity for judgment. it's not that we have to stand on one side or the other, it’s more that both justice and mercy have to come on the same side.
Jaymole
08-26-04, 03:53 PM
What nominations do you think Dogville deserves?
Art Direction
Trigger
08-26-04, 04:50 PM
I thought it was sleep inducing... someday I'll sit through the whole thing, hopefully.
wendersfan
08-27-04, 10:22 AM
I have to say, cygnet74's description of the film was spot-on wonderful. After seeing it last year at Toronto, a friend of mine told me he thought Dogville was "the most compelling justification for the existence of hell" he'd ever encountered.
A true masterpiece.
PopcornTreeCt
08-27-04, 12:32 PM
Hmm..first people call out 'The Element of Crime' as a Criterion stinker and now people are saying Dogville was boring and sleep-induced. So long Lars Von Trier looks like I won't be giving you a chance.
Trigger
08-27-04, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by PopcornTreeCt
Hmm..first people call out 'The Element of Crime' as a Criterion stinker and now people are saying Dogville was boring and sleep-induced. So long Lars Von Trier looks like I won't be giving you a chance. Don't take my word for it...
Sierra Disc
09-02-04, 11:35 AM
While I admire a lot about the movie technically, it is just so overwhelmingly cynical and bleak that I can't recommend it. It's not "Anti-American," it's just "anti." All rage and no hope. I appreciate what Von Trier is trying to say, but I don't agree with it or his movie.
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