Industry News: HD-DVD players will debut in early 2005
08-15-04, 05:55 PM
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Industry News: HD-DVD players will debut in early 2005
From Reuters:
The next chapter the HD saga unfolds. Looks like HD-DVD may be getting a jump start on Blu-ray after all. The question is, will there be any HD-DVDs available for purchase when the hardware debuts? Early 2005 for HD-DVD is a lot sooner than many people anticipated. Perhaps we'll start hearing announcements from the studios/distributors in the near future.
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Companies approve New High-Capacity Disc Format (Blu-ray)
Micosoft's Windows Media 9 Codec to be Mandatory for all HD-DVD Players
Michael Fiddler of Blu-Ray group speaks
Dell and HP side with Blu-Ray
DVD Forum chooses AOD (Toshiba/NEC) technology, passes on Blu-Ray
Rebuying our movies in HD?
High-Def DVD Players Headed for Stores
Sat Aug 14, 9:12 PM ET
By Jill Kipnis
LOS ANGELES (Billboard) - Toshiba/NEC plans to have its high-definition DVD hardware on retail shelves in early 2005.
The manufacturing partnership announced at a Tokyo showcase the last week of July that HD DVD players will be available next year in the United States and Japan. The Toshiba/NEC format is endorsed by the DVD Forum, an international association of 200 companies.
The rival Blu-ray HD format -- which is backed by 13 manufacturers, including Sony, Samsung, Philips, Dell and Hewlett-Packard -- is expected to introduce its players in the States by the end of 2005. Blu-ray hardware has already launched in Japan.
So far, the only home-video distributor to officially endorse one of the HD formats is Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment, whose parent company, Sony, is a key proponent of Blu-ray.
Reuters/Billboard
Sat Aug 14, 9:12 PM ET
By Jill Kipnis
LOS ANGELES (Billboard) - Toshiba/NEC plans to have its high-definition DVD hardware on retail shelves in early 2005.
The manufacturing partnership announced at a Tokyo showcase the last week of July that HD DVD players will be available next year in the United States and Japan. The Toshiba/NEC format is endorsed by the DVD Forum, an international association of 200 companies.
The rival Blu-ray HD format -- which is backed by 13 manufacturers, including Sony, Samsung, Philips, Dell and Hewlett-Packard -- is expected to introduce its players in the States by the end of 2005. Blu-ray hardware has already launched in Japan.
So far, the only home-video distributor to officially endorse one of the HD formats is Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment, whose parent company, Sony, is a key proponent of Blu-ray.
Reuters/Billboard
Other HD-DVD related threads:
Companies approve New High-Capacity Disc Format (Blu-ray)
Micosoft's Windows Media 9 Codec to be Mandatory for all HD-DVD Players
Michael Fiddler of Blu-Ray group speaks
Dell and HP side with Blu-Ray
DVD Forum chooses AOD (Toshiba/NEC) technology, passes on Blu-Ray
Rebuying our movies in HD?
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08-15-04, 06:08 PM
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Not to mention, the out-of-pocket cost of being an early adopter...
The buzz is that the first wave of HD-DVD players will retail for around $900 USD.
The buzz is that the first wave of HD-DVD players will retail for around $900 USD.
08-15-04, 07:24 PM
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Let the bigwigs fight it out.... 1 format will have to be the standard.
Blu-ray is the way to go.
Blu-ray is the way to go.
08-15-04, 09:34 PM
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If I can't play it on my PC (which drives my 1368x1024 projector) without a hassle, then I'm not interested. I'll just wait for the hi-def showings on satellite and record them as I do today.
08-16-04, 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by cruzness
Personally I think Iwill wait until the dust settles before I switch to HD or Blu-Ray.
Personally I think Iwill wait until the dust settles before I switch to HD or Blu-Ray.
08-16-04, 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by Jah-Wren Ryel
If I can't play it on my PC (which drives my 1368x1024 projector) without a hassle, then I'm not interested. I'll just wait for the hi-def showings on satellite and record them as I do today.
If I can't play it on my PC (which drives my 1368x1024 projector) without a hassle, then I'm not interested. I'll just wait for the hi-def showings on satellite and record them as I do today.
A representative for Microsoft's Japanese operations today confirmed the next-generation Windows operating system code named "Longhorn" will support the upcoming High Definition DVD format offered by NEC and Toshiba. Microsoft still remains undecided concerning support for the competing Blu-ray standard developed by Sony, Philips, and other storage corporations." LINK TO ARTICLE
"Dell and HP, the world's largest personal computer makers, said they would support the so-called Blu-ray DVD technology, which allows for recording of up to four hours of high-definition television on a single disc. HP believes Blu-ray Disc is the most consumer-friendly technology choice for the next generation of removable storage," John Romano, senior VP at HP, said in a statement." LINK TO ARTICLE
08-16-04, 04:49 AM
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if the players do actually make it to market early next year and titles do start trickling out, i figure it will probably be mid 2007 before i pull the trigger and get one.
owning a pj, i would love to have some HD content as soon as possible, but i just don't see the value/quality of 1 st generation software and hardware/ and selection of software being such that it would make sense to be an early adopter.
but if this is accurate it will definitely factor into my budget for replacing my current player with in the next few months.
owning a pj, i would love to have some HD content as soon as possible, but i just don't see the value/quality of 1 st generation software and hardware/ and selection of software being such that it would make sense to be an early adopter.
but if this is accurate it will definitely factor into my budget for replacing my current player with in the next few months.
08-16-04, 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by jmaxlow
This, only eight years after the debut of DVD? Way too soon for mass-adoption, I think.
This, only eight years after the debut of DVD? Way too soon for mass-adoption, I think.
08-16-04, 10:19 AM
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I guess I'm the only one perfectly happy with the current DVD format & my home theater. I will never upgrade unless DVDs stop being made.
08-16-04, 10:39 AM
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No sense in wasting time and money with these. At the very very least not for the next 3-8 years. With all these format wars, prices, lack of software, compatibility, lack of burners, all the different types of anti piracy methods, etc etc, as they once put it in South Park: I think I'll sit this one out.
08-16-04, 11:10 AM
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Not to rain on everybody's parade, but it's mentality like this that restricts progress.
We all know that HD-DVD/Blue-Ray is by far superior than DVD. I, for one, would not be able to afford to shell out the cash for a new HD-DVD player, and I'm assuming most of you can't either, but if I had money to throw around, you can bet your ass I'd be the first in line, whether there was one title available or a hundred.
The fact of the matter is that our beloved DVD should and DOES need to die eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later...giving way to HD. Our proud collections of DVDs will be obsolete some day, just like our old VHS tapes.
We all know that HD-DVD/Blue-Ray is by far superior than DVD. I, for one, would not be able to afford to shell out the cash for a new HD-DVD player, and I'm assuming most of you can't either, but if I had money to throw around, you can bet your ass I'd be the first in line, whether there was one title available or a hundred.
The fact of the matter is that our beloved DVD should and DOES need to die eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later...giving way to HD. Our proud collections of DVDs will be obsolete some day, just like our old VHS tapes.
08-16-04, 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Loc Nar
I imagine HD-DVD's will go at a minimum at Criterion level prices (between $29.99 and $39.99 a pop) when they debut. Hopefully, the release of HD-DVD's will further deflate the MSRP of standard DVD's.
I imagine HD-DVD's will go at a minimum at Criterion level prices (between $29.99 and $39.99 a pop) when they debut. Hopefully, the release of HD-DVD's will further deflate the MSRP of standard DVD's.
I thought some people would be excited over this news, but it seems like most people are upset?
08-16-04, 11:35 AM
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you never know, maybe stores like reel.com and 800.com can get back into the business of selling with HD-DVDs with some more 3 for 1.00 or 25.00 off a 25.00 order coupons. 
seriously though, if the prices aren't too extreme I'll buy into this. I just have this little voice in my head telling me I should wait until there is a universal player/recorder that will play/record with both formats.
seriously though, if the prices aren't too extreme I'll buy into this. I just have this little voice in my head telling me I should wait until there is a universal player/recorder that will play/record with both formats.
08-16-04, 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Concorde
The fact of the matter is that our beloved DVD should and DOES need to die eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later...giving way to HD. Our proud collections of DVDs will be obsolete some day, just like our old VHS tapes.
The fact of the matter is that our beloved DVD should and DOES need to die eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later...giving way to HD. Our proud collections of DVDs will be obsolete some day, just like our old VHS tapes.
I know I'm in the minority, especially in this forum, but DVDs IMO SHOULD stick around for a long time.
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Originally posted by vivarey
If that is true, they will have an even harder time converting people over from red-laser discs. I don't think they would shoot themselves in the foot like that. Remember, they want people to buy into this quick - before Blu-ray has a chance to penetrate the market. Of course, the studios and distributors will have the final say regarding pricing. But remember too that they want to move to HD as well. I expect HD-DVD discs to be competitively priced to lure people over, even in the beginning. I expect no more than a $5 or less MSRP price difference. But, I could be completely wrong. It's all guessing at this point.
I thought some people would be excited over this news, but it seems like most people are upset?
If that is true, they will have an even harder time converting people over from red-laser discs. I don't think they would shoot themselves in the foot like that. Remember, they want people to buy into this quick - before Blu-ray has a chance to penetrate the market. Of course, the studios and distributors will have the final say regarding pricing. But remember too that they want to move to HD as well. I expect HD-DVD discs to be competitively priced to lure people over, even in the beginning. I expect no more than a $5 or less MSRP price difference. But, I could be completely wrong. It's all guessing at this point.
I thought some people would be excited over this news, but it seems like most people are upset?
Also, though it's a different technology, of course, the pricing of d-vhs flicks are in this MSRP price point (and more in some cases).
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08-16-04, 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Concorde
The fact of the matter is that our beloved DVD should and DOES need to die eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later...giving way to HD. Our proud collections of DVDs will be obsolete some day, just like our old VHS tapes.
The fact of the matter is that our beloved DVD should and DOES need to die eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later...giving way to HD. Our proud collections of DVDs will be obsolete some day, just like our old VHS tapes.
I might get a player when they get cheaper - but unless the new rig is a quantum leap in picture and sound quality like VHS-to-DVD was, the mainstream public aint gonna buy into it.