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Old 07-14-04, 11:46 PM
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no gay/lesbian characters in Alias??

I recalled my viewing Felicity on DVD for the first two seasons. There are some gay/lesbian characters in the show. The first one is Noel's brother who appears for a season one episode and comes out of the closet to Noel. The second one is the manager of Dean & Deluca - Javier and he later marries his partner Samuel in the show's second season. There is a minor lesbian character whom Noel acquaints with in an art class. From the examples above, it is known that J. J. Abrams doesn't ignore the existence of homosexual characters. How come there's no any gay character in Alias? Or the uinverse of Alias is just dominated by heterosexual thoughts?
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There's probably no midgets or amputees either. What's your point exactly?
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I've never seen any Asian characters on the show, either. oh wait, I take that back, I've never seen an Asian playing a good character on the show unless they're a Korean gangster or a crazed Chinese doctor. I've never seen an Asian good guy characte on the show.
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Let me turn this around. Are there any Conservative characters on this show? Are there any Conservative characters ANYWHERE on network TV? (Come back APK!)

My point is that we could all find fault with wanting more characters like us on shows, but I think it's futile and childish to demand it. Ultimately, you'll only watch what you like. The producers know this, and are plently willing to cater to demographics they deem vital and marketable.
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This seems like a pretty straightforward, benign question, undeserving of this level of hostility.
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Maybe you should just go audition for whatever "minority" or "token" character the show's missing.
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Maybe it is a valid question, but couldn't the "Alias" in the subject question be replaced with almost every show on TV? Since it was specifically mentioned about Abrams wrote gay people in a different series, just because a writer had homosexual characters in one show definitely does not mean that you should expect it in another.
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Not to mention that Felicity was set in college where gay people are more visible and expected.
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There are no homosexuals working in my 20-person office. Everyone is married or dating members of the opposite sex.

Out of the 10 or so regular characters, none of them are gay. It's not that strange.
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I've never even thought about it until now. Maybe Weiss will come out of the closet one day and declare his love for Vaughn. Or maybe not. It's not something I think about when I watch tv shows.
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or so you think....


Originally posted by Draven
There are no homosexuals working in my 20-person office. Everyone is married or dating members of the opposite sex.
Old 07-15-04, 08:59 AM
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Why can't people just enjoy shows for what it is and not think about what type of people the show doesn't have on it? It was the same with Friends when people would complain that the cast were all white. Just watch and be entertained.
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Didn't any of you folks see the ep where Sydney and Lauren got busy in the hot tub?
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Originally posted by Vryce
Not to mention that Felicity was set in college where gay people are more visible and expected.
WTF?! I get it - gay is more prevalent in college. After you graduate you stop being gay and get married. Is that it?

This is a pointless thread and has already gotten more attention than it deserves.
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Other than Sydney and Vaughn, they really don't delve into most of the other character's sex lives, since they are usually too busy fighting bad guys and whatnot.

Originally posted by JoebobX
There's probably no midgets or amputees either. What's your point exactly?
What about Marshall?
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Originally posted by rfduncan
WTF?! I get it - gay is more prevalent in college. After you graduate you stop being gay and get married. Is that it?

This is a pointless thread and has already gotten more attention than it deserves.
I'm sure a certain group of people would love it if that was the case though.

No.. my comment was comparing the 2 shows. In a round-about way.

If you compare the setting of Alias and the setting of Felicity, where would you except to see gay charactres?
In a division of the CIA(at least I think it is haven't watched the show), in the undercover agent world, etc.
Or would you expect to see gay characters in college. Most campuses have groups for support and they make themselves known.

Thats what I meant about it being expected and more visible in college.

And yes, this thread has gotten too much attention.
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Originally posted by Meatpants
Didn't any of you folks see the ep where Sydney and Lauren got busy in the hot tub?


That would be the BEST EPISODE EVER.
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Originally posted by Jadzia
What about Marshall?
That dude is tiny!
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Originally posted by Bandoman


That would be the BEST EPISODE EVER.
It still better end w/ Syd repeatedly punching Lauren in the mouth.
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Originally posted by B.A.
It still better end w/ Syd repeatedly punching Lauren in the mouth.
Yeah, maybe even during the hot-tub love scene. Lauren seems like she'd want it rough.
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Originally posted by Meatpants
Didn't any of you folks see the ep where Sydney and Lauren got busy in the hot tub?
"Silent Bob, I think I just filled the cup"

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That dude is tiny!
Yeah, and he's not very tall either!
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Personally, I find it refreshing to have a series without a gay character. Too often, TV shows and movies bow down to the politically correct notion that there HAS TO BE a gay character, in order to be representative of society and fill a "quotient" by having a gay character.

The gay population is estimated to represent anywhere from 1-10% of the population in the U.S., and most "Westernized" countries. Therefore, in most cases, with TV shows of 5-10 major characters, it should be expected that nobody would be gay, by the law of averages.

What's further annoying is that when gay characters are written, they often fit many of the cliches and stereotypes - "The Flamboyant One", "The Homophobe Who Turns Out To Be Gay", "The Class Stud That Everybody Looks Up Who Reveals He's Gay", et al.

I like it when characters are people, and being gay is just one aspect of who they are. When a character is only about being gay, it's redundant, pointless and ignorant.


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