Now they censor movie trailers!!!
God I hate them.
Morgan Creek have prepared a new and improved trailer for Exorcist: The Beginning to release online and in cinemas as soon as possible, replacing the shambled trailer that was recently released.
They have hit an unforeseen hurdle, however. A Warner Brothers source revealing exclusively to CaptainHowdy.com today that the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) have disapproved the new trailer for release, officially stating the footage is deemed "too scary for all audiences".
According to the source, the official document stated reasons why the trailer would not receive release approval, including 'blood on walls' and a 'white demonic face bleeding from the eyes'.
It is not known whether Morgan Creek are fighting the decision or re-cutting the trailer to meet standards.
CaptainHowdy.com tried to contact Greg Mielcarz, Head of Worldwide Publicity at Morgan Creek, but he was unavailable for comment. Greg frequents the Exorcist Fan Forums here at CH.com. Morgan Creek have not issued a formal statement at this time.
However, this news should raise a few eyebrows. It further confirms that Morgan Creek were indeed chasing a 'scarier' feel for their prequel after Schrader left the project and Renny Harlin was brought on board to patch things up. Practically the entire film was re-shot as a result. Renny Harlin's film will be in cinema's August 20, Paul Schrader's will reach DVD early next year.
The trailer for Exorcist: The Beginning was launched two weeks ago on MTV.com, much to the excitement of Exorcist fans who had been waiting for over two years to finally see some footage from the fourth Exorcist film. Excitement quickly tuned sour, however, as fans were quick to point out the cliché elements of the trailer, questioning the credibility of the film as a respectable sequel as a result.
Fans also noticed the trailer featured on many internet sites, but not the official Exorcist: The Beginning web site. It would seem Morgan Creek were holding off so they could release their official - SCARIER - trailer to the world.
Rypro 525
06-28-04, 06:53 PM
then why not put the trailer as a red band trailer and put it in front of R rated movies, and use the censored trailer for regular movies.
RyoHazuki
06-28-04, 06:54 PM
So the Schrader cut will be on dvd?
DRG
06-28-04, 07:17 PM
From an interview with Cabin Fever director Eli Roth (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=3386):
Roth: MPAA. We can’t *****in’ put shit in a trailer anymore. You make a horror movie, you can’t put anything in it. You can’t have blood, you can’t have swearing, you can’t have nudity…nothing. It has to be able to play with FINDING NEMO. No red-band trailers. So where’s the only place for them? The Internet. Theaters will no longer accept the red-band trailer. The trailer with the head blowing up in SCANNERS, it would never happen today. They rate your *****in’ poster. They rate your website now. So we need to go to places like JoBlo and leak it through them, then the MPAA can’t go after us. They’ll revoke your rating. It’s so stupid, such weird censorship.
Suprmallet
06-28-04, 07:21 PM
I thought the current trailer was pretty good, actually...
Rival11
06-28-04, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Suprmallet
I thought the current trailer was pretty good, actually...
Same here but the current topic at hand is bullshit.
Joe Molotov
06-28-04, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by RyoHazuki
So the Schrader cut will be on dvd?
Renny Harlin's film will be in cinema's August 20, Paul Schrader's will reach DVD early next year.
jaeufraser
06-28-04, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Rypro 525
then why not put the trailer as a red band trailer and put it in front of R rated movies, and use the censored trailer for regular movies.
Yeah that's pretty much it. I know we all like to hate the MPAA, but not approving something as green band (ie approved for all audiences) doesn't equal censorship. We might as well complain that Jenna Jameson movies can't get R ratings.
Dr. DVD
06-28-04, 09:11 PM
Too scary? Too dumb I can see, but not too scary. This is a PR stunt.
Suprmallet
06-28-04, 11:31 PM
I think the problem is look what they're not giving it the green band for. Some bloody eyes? That's what's so stupid. It's like that quote said, if it's not okay for the Finding Nemo crowd, then you can't show it.
isamu
06-29-04, 12:02 AM
is it true LB is making a cameo in this?
jaeufraser
06-29-04, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Suprmallet
I think the problem is look what they're not giving it the green band for. Some bloody eyes? That's what's so stupid. It's like that quote said, if it's not okay for the Finding Nemo crowd, then you can't show it.
Which is dumb, but is it the MPAA's fault that theaters won't show red band trailers? Actually, I don't know that answer, so if anyone knows I'd like to read. But "approved for all audiences" by nature means something fairly tame. At least, that's what I would think.
PopcornTreeCt
06-29-04, 12:23 AM
Well I'm kinda surprised this doesn't happen more often. Those trailers have to be approved its first thing you read when they pop up. This guy is just whining so people will go see the movie.
johnglass
06-29-04, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Too scary? Too dumb I can see, but not too scary. This is a PR stunt.
Exactly what I was thinking when I read
officially stating the footage is deemed "too scary for all audiences".
I wonder if the MPAA will respond to this, seems to be easy enough to refute if it is a PR move.
VHS?
06-29-04, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by PopcornTreeCt
This guy is just whining so people will go see the movie.
Are you for real?
Anyway,,,
Since when does the MPAA come out and say a trailer is "too scary for all audiences"
This is like a first.And I see a trend coming here from all this.
Here is what they should do from here on out.
Have one member of the MPAA on a movie set at all times with a megaphone yelling "CUT!!" .... "Sorry,I dont think we can allow that,remove it" "Why don't I direct this movie the way 'I' think people should see it,not your creation"
The MPAA sucks.Bottom line.Funny how I can see guts and gore on the news but not in a FICTIONAL viewing.
As for a PR move.I dont really think so.This is classic MPAA we are seeing.
Suprmallet
06-29-04, 01:50 AM
I have to agree. The new Exorcist may or may not be a good movie, but I don't think this is a PR stunt. This is completely in line with the kind of shit the MPAA pulls. The studios know what can and can't go into a trailer, they make so many of them. I highly doubt they really submitted stuff that was too horrific or violent to be shown to an audience of people 13 and older.
wmansir
06-29-04, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by VHS?
Are you for real?
Anyway,,,
Since when does the MPAA come out and say a trailer is "too scary for all audiences"
(SNIP)
For a long time. Take a close look at the green screen that almost all trailers start with, that's the MPAA's Green band. It says that the trailer was approved for General Audiences.
They also have a red band, which is for more graphic content and can only be played in front of R rated movies.
As much as I dislike the MPAA for other reasons, this isn't their fault. Just like with the NC-17 rating, it is the theaters' decision not to show red-band trailers.
Julie Walker
06-29-04, 03:03 AM
You know,the Scream dvd has a red & green band trailers...and you know what? I still can't tell what is different between the two! They both are edited practically the same,but I guess the MPAA deemed the red band trailer 'too intense' or some BS like that.
I bet it is the same thing in this case,where the MPAA is being upitity for no real reason,other than to be pricks as usual.
jaeufraser
06-29-04, 03:16 AM
I just don't really see the evidence that the MPAA did something so awful here. It's a trailer that will run in front of everything. I can understand certain requirements. There's no evidence that they're so harsh on red band trailers.
So...I know we like to hate the MPAA, but let's see some real reasons why. As far as I can tell, their problem is the lack of an NC-17 rating. The rest of this stuff is BS imo. Or small things that deal more with studio politics, though in general I rarely hear of anything worth noting in that area.
VHS?
06-29-04, 03:16 AM
I still put 99% of the blame on the MPAA
There are theaters that will show red band trailers,just during the right movies.
I mean if a movie is showing for people 17+,there should not be anyone who CANT see it in there.Thus being ok to show it.The MPAA is suggesting that this trailer be shown to ALL GENERAL AUDIENCES.This is not a general audience movie.
I hate trying to debate and hate the MPAA.I just get upset at the shit they pull.I could care less what type of movie genra it is.They always have to jump in and ruin it.
The bottom line is I dont think a bunch of old boring 'June and Ward Cleaver' types should be telling people what they can and cant watch.It is MY choice.If a movie is to violent and they are so caring about the children watching it,it is not their duty.They are not the parent.I say what my kids watch,not them.
Besides.If they dont see it in theaters,they will see it at home on dvd or tape.Will they be there then?
johnglass
06-29-04, 08:08 AM
AICN is confirming the story, so it must be false. :D
Allegedly William Friedkin himself confirmed this to Harry, and provided the trailer to him, but the link is dead.
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=6232
PixyJunket
06-29-04, 09:29 AM
Censorship. :lol:
DonnachaOne
06-29-04, 09:53 AM
It's a publicity stunt. Come on. You all had to know that.
If you belived for a second that this was a big deal, then I've got an up-to-the-minute story from Lucy Liu, telling you that Kill Bill's violence is so violent it'll make you sick.
Rypro 525
06-29-04, 12:34 PM
also, the original teaser for the texas chainsaw massacre (the one with just screaming and no picture) was deemed innapropriate for all audiences
RyoHazuki
06-29-04, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by johnglass
AICN is confirming the story, so it must be false. :D
Allegedly William Friedkin himself confirmed this to Harry, and provided the trailer to him, but the link is dead.
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=6232 That is from 2000.
jaeufraser
06-29-04, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by VHS?
I hate trying to debate and hate the MPAA.I just get upset at the shit they pull.I could care less what type of movie genra it is.They always have to jump in and ruin it.
The bottom line is I dont think a bunch of old boring 'June and Ward Cleaver' types should be telling people what they can and cant watch.It is MY choice.If a movie is to violent and they are so caring about the children watching it,it is not their duty.They are not the parent.I say what my kids watch,not them.
Besides.If they dont see it in theaters,they will see it at home on dvd or tape.Will they be there then?
No offense, but it doesn't sound like you have any idea what you're talking about. The studio submitted a trailer with the intent of showing it in front of non R-rated films. Therefore it had to meet the specifications of the MPAA. If you want, I'm sure you can find the gorier trailer out there.
Nonetheless, the MPAA has no control over which films you get into, nor which films your kids get into. If the MPAA rates a movie R, guess what, you can still go! And you can bring your kids!!! But if you take your kids to see a pg-13 film, the MPAA will also make sure they're not showing trailers that aren't deemed "approved for all audiences."
No offense, but how you think the MPAA equals people telling others what they can or cannot watch is beyond me. The ONLY movies that this argument holds water with (and that I agree with) are those films that are purely for adults, and fall into the NC-17 rating. I will agree with that. But beyond that...what exactly is the MPAA at fault for? Should anything, nor matter how violent, sexual and profanity laced, be given a green band? Is this your solution? No offense but this isn't censorship...it's a freakin generally approved trailer. If it was the violent mess you want it to be, it wouldn't be approved for all audiences. Simple as that.
PopcornTreeCt
06-29-04, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by jaeufraser
No offense, but it doesn't sound like you have any idea what you're talking about. The studio submitted a trailer with the intent of showing it in front of non R-rated films. Therefore it had to meet the specifications of the MPAA. If you want, I'm sure you can find the gorier trailer out there.
Nonetheless, the MPAA has no control over which films you get into, nor which films your kids get into. If the MPAA rates a movie R, guess what, you can still go! And you can bring your kids!!! But if you take your kids to see a pg-13 film, the MPAA will also make sure they're not showing trailers that aren't deemed "approved for all audiences."
No offense, but how you think the MPAA equals people telling others what they can or cannot watch is beyond me. The ONLY movies that this argument holds water with (and that I agree with) are those films that are purely for adults, and fall into the NC-17 rating. I will agree with that. But beyond that...what exactly is the MPAA at fault for? Should anything, nor matter how violent, sexual and profanity laced, be given a green band? Is this your solution? No offense but this isn't censorship...it's a freakin generally approved trailer. If it was the violent mess you want it to be, it wouldn't be approved for all audiences. Simple as that.
Well said. I didn't want to have to argue.
UAIOE
06-29-04, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Rypro 525
also, the original teaser for the texas chainsaw massacre (the one with just screaming and no picture) was deemed innapropriate for all audiences
Why? What was so innapropriate about that?
Rypro 525
06-29-04, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by UAIOE
Why? What was so innapropriate about that? Bay said on the dvd that it was too scary, and its what was happening off screen, which made it too much.
Sunday Morning
06-29-04, 11:14 PM
This thing should just straight to dvd. It's not going to turn a profit it's theatrical run. Enough already, WB. I just want too see the schrader cut.
johnglass
06-30-04, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by RyoHazuki
That is from 2000.
Wow, so you're right. The stories were so similar I thought he was referring to the new Exorcist.
Now the question is- would the MPAA have the same reaction to two different Exorcist films? Doubtful.
tripleeric1
06-30-04, 09:08 AM
Man...this movie has been cursed from the beginning (no pun intended) ;)
UAIOE
07-01-04, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by Rypro 525
Bay said on the dvd that it was too scary, and its what was happening off screen, which made it too much.
I'm seriously at a loss over that one.
So showing nothing is as bad as showing someone being stabbed?
Sure MPAA....you guys are just begging for a choclate covered pretzel.
Trigger
07-01-04, 07:46 AM
so is this trailer available for download anywhere or what?
CreatureX
07-01-04, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Trigger
so is this trailer available for download anywhere or what? Not yet. :(
Rival11
07-02-04, 12:29 AM
Still makes no sense, it's just more B.S. from yours truly (MPAA)
Why? Why? Why?!!!?
jaeufraser
07-02-04, 12:56 AM
What makes no sense is why people are lambasting the MPAA for not letting a supposedly violent trailer be "for general audiences," especially when none of us have seen the damn thing! It's a stupid trailer...they have somewhat restrictive rules for the general audience trailers. What exactly is so evil about this? And exactly what standards do you want for trailers that anybody can watch? Blood? Gore? Boobies? I'm all for free expression, but this ain't the place for it.
Rival11
07-02-04, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by jaeufraser
What makes no sense is why people are lambasting the MPAA for not letting a supposedly violent trailer be "for general audiences," especially when none of us have seen the damn thing! It's a stupid trailer...they have somewhat restrictive rules for the general audience trailers. What exactly is so evil about this? And exactly what standards do you want for trailers that anybody can watch? Blood? Gore? Boobies? I'm all for free expression, but this ain't the place for it.
The bottom line is that trailers are NEVER too evil, violent, explicit...etc unless they are red banned (which I think does not exsist anymore anyway).
So it is bullshit to say the least - there is NO reason why the trailer should be banned and that's what people are pissed about.
jaeufraser
07-03-04, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Rival11
The bottom line is that trailers are NEVER too evil, violent, explicit...etc unless they are red banned (which I think does not exsist anymore anyway).
So it is bullshit to say the least - there is NO reason why the trailer should be banned and that's what people are pissed about.
They're pissed about the exorcist trailer being banned. Now as far as I know, it has not been banned. It just wasnt given a green band trailer. Now, why exactly do you justify this trailer being given the green band? This isn't a logical argument...all I'm hearing is that you want the green band to really have lax standards. Hardly the definition of censorship, not even close to anything getting banned. So basically we want it so the "approved for all audieces" trailer can show as much crap as possible. Which in my mind defies the whole concept of "approved for all audieces."
Listen, I just don't see the argument here. This isn't censorship, nothing got banned, and the MPAA did exactly what it should. Now have YOU seen this trailer so that you can actually say that the MPAA made a wrong decision? And for that matter...why does this matter? Trailers are always fairly benign...there are many other outlets to show more violent or graphic trailers than green band trailers in movie theaters.
Rival11
07-04-04, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by jaeufraser
They're pissed about the exorcist trailer being banned. Now as far as I know, it has not been banned. It just wasnt given a green band trailer.
Calm down J - first off, now I'm confused because I thought the NEW trailer wasn't going to be released at all (I thought it was going to be re-done to make everyone happy).
I'm complaining about this mainly because of the info being made public and because IMO it usually turns out that the trailers are never as bad as they are made out to be......now you DON'T have to agree with that, just keep in mind the many views that other people have.
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