Discovery Channel HD looks better than my progressive DVD player. HELP!!!
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Discovery Channel HD looks better than my progressive DVD player. HELP!!!
I hope I am doing something wrong, but the Discovery Channel looks better than my DVDs. I popped in Finding Nemo expecting to be blown away, but it was a bit grainy. I use a cable channel to demo my new set right now, and that seems odd. Any help is appreciated.
Toshiba 57inch HDTV Built In 57H93
Toshiba SD-3960 connected to HDTV Componet input 1 with 2m Monster cables
Scientific Atlanta box connected to HDTV Component Input 2 with provided cables.
DVD player is on a shelf by itself. DVD coax to receiver, cable fiber optic to receiver. (Don't think any of this matters, but....)
Toshiba 57inch HDTV Built In 57H93
Toshiba SD-3960 connected to HDTV Componet input 1 with 2m Monster cables
Scientific Atlanta box connected to HDTV Component Input 2 with provided cables.
DVD player is on a shelf by itself. DVD coax to receiver, cable fiber optic to receiver. (Don't think any of this matters, but....)
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I would hope Discovery HD looks better. Now you know your HDTV is working ok.
HD is much higher resolution than DVD so even the best player won't make DVD as good as decent HD.
HD is much higher resolution than DVD so even the best player won't make DVD as good as decent HD.
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Personally, I think the Monster cables are confusing the oxygen-deprived spin-reverse-polarized electrons and the evacuated core conductor effects combined with the inductance-induced hysteresis is causing some graininess in your picture. $^)
Seriously, Discovery HD is the sharpest-looking HD channel on our cable system (no ESPN HD,alas), and it *is* much clearer than DVDs.
And the DVD player may be contributing slightly to a lower pq, as noted above. Why not get a Panny unit? (Or at least perhaps borrow a different player to compare...)
Seriously, Discovery HD is the sharpest-looking HD channel on our cable system (no ESPN HD,alas), and it *is* much clearer than DVDs.
And the DVD player may be contributing slightly to a lower pq, as noted above. Why not get a Panny unit? (Or at least perhaps borrow a different player to compare...)
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it's supposed to... that channel is the best hd channel
hd is higher resolution than dvd i think dischd broadcast a 720p signal
btw, why do you have both the coax and optical outputs from your dvd player running to your receiver?
hd is higher resolution than dvd i think dischd broadcast a 720p signal
btw, why do you have both the coax and optical outputs from your dvd player running to your receiver?
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but the Discovery Channel looks better than my DVDs
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Re: Discovery Channel HD looks better than my progressive DVD player. HELP!!!
Originally posted by BassDude
...I popped in Finding Nemo expecting to be blown away, but it was a bit grainy...
...I popped in Finding Nemo expecting to be blown away, but it was a bit grainy...
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Originally posted by drmoze
Personally, I think the Monster cables are confusing the oxygen-deprived spin-reverse-polarized electrons and the evacuated core conductor effects combined with the inductance-induced hysteresis is causing some graininess in your picture. $^)
Personally, I think the Monster cables are confusing the oxygen-deprived spin-reverse-polarized electrons and the evacuated core conductor effects combined with the inductance-induced hysteresis is causing some graininess in your picture. $^)
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35mm photographs look better than my Xerox copies. What am I doing wrong?! Help!!
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Well..except for Josh, thanks all! (Guess ya couldn't resist.)
I've heard for months how good progressive scan players are on these boards and quietly envied y'all...so my expectations may have been off. And yeah..seeing how great Discovery HD looks, I know it's not the TV.
I was hoping it was the "fetzer valve on my DVD whidget output set to mHz instead of kHz" or something. The DVD player was only $69, so...
Oh..and ATX, I meant DVD has coax, Cable Box has fiber optic. Watched The Sopranos in 5.1 for the first time!!
Thanks again. I might see if a friend will tear their prog player out of their system rack to take a look at it on mine.
And I will go halfs with my lil bro on Avia or another calibrator.
I've heard for months how good progressive scan players are on these boards and quietly envied y'all...so my expectations may have been off. And yeah..seeing how great Discovery HD looks, I know it's not the TV.
I was hoping it was the "fetzer valve on my DVD whidget output set to mHz instead of kHz" or something. The DVD player was only $69, so...
Oh..and ATX, I meant DVD has coax, Cable Box has fiber optic. Watched The Sopranos in 5.1 for the first time!!
Thanks again. I might see if a friend will tear their prog player out of their system rack to take a look at it on mine.
And I will go halfs with my lil bro on Avia or another calibrator.
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Discovery HD is sending it at 1920x1080i. DVD's have a native 720x480 resolution in a 16:9 format. There's nothing you can do to make DVD's match Discovery HD, even if you use an ultra high end Scaler (ie. Teranex, which costs $50k).
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Yeah it is depressing ain't it? I recently got HD and watched some of Harry Potter on ABC. Then I popped in my DVD copy. The diff was shocking. The ABC feed was so much cleaner I pooped my pants.
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Yeah it is depressing ain't it? I recently got HD and watched some of Harry Potter on ABC. Then I popped in my DVD copy. The diff was shocking. The ABC feed was so much cleaner I pooped my pants.
Yeah it is depressing ain't it? I recently got HD and watched some of Harry Potter on ABC. Then I popped in my DVD copy. The diff was shocking. The ABC feed was so much cleaner I pooped my pants.
In my theater Discovery HD is great for demo material but my DVD's also look very good. DVD's contrary to some beliefs are not HD. I even got into an argument with someone who insisted that their DVD has HD because the box "said so".
Good quality DVD players and good discs can look great too.
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As stated, HD blows away the quality of DVD, Progressive Scan or not:
Format - Lines - Pixel Count - Total Pixels
480i - 480 - 480 X 640 - 307,200
480p - 480 - 480 X 704 - 337,920
720p - 720 - 720 X 1280 - 921,600
1080i - 1080 - 1080 X 1920 - 2,073,600
(I copied this from a website, so not my fault if there are typos )
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see what kind of cable you have used to hook up the DVD player to the TV. To take advantage of the Progressive Scan, you need to use component cables. If you're just using "basic" RCA cables, or even s-video, the pic isn't going to be nearly as good. Also, routing the video signal through your receiver prior to the TV could degrade the image quality, depending on your setup. Nemo is a stunning looking DVD, so the fact that you say it is "fuzzy" still leads me to believe something isn't hooked up quite right. Also, make sure the DVD player is set to output the image 16x9, and that you aren't stretching the image on your TV. Those are a number of things to check...
Progressive Scan is indeed better than non-Progressive, but the different between HD and Progressive Scan is much greater than Progressive Scan vs. non-Progressive DVD (as shown with the above numbers).
Format - Lines - Pixel Count - Total Pixels
480i - 480 - 480 X 640 - 307,200
480p - 480 - 480 X 704 - 337,920
720p - 720 - 720 X 1280 - 921,600
1080i - 1080 - 1080 X 1920 - 2,073,600
(I copied this from a website, so not my fault if there are typos )
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see what kind of cable you have used to hook up the DVD player to the TV. To take advantage of the Progressive Scan, you need to use component cables. If you're just using "basic" RCA cables, or even s-video, the pic isn't going to be nearly as good. Also, routing the video signal through your receiver prior to the TV could degrade the image quality, depending on your setup. Nemo is a stunning looking DVD, so the fact that you say it is "fuzzy" still leads me to believe something isn't hooked up quite right. Also, make sure the DVD player is set to output the image 16x9, and that you aren't stretching the image on your TV. Those are a number of things to check...
Progressive Scan is indeed better than non-Progressive, but the different between HD and Progressive Scan is much greater than Progressive Scan vs. non-Progressive DVD (as shown with the above numbers).
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Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see what kind of cable you have used to hook up the DVD player to the TV. To take advantage of the Progressive Scan, you need to use component cables.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see what kind of cable you have used to hook up the DVD player to the TV. To take advantage of the Progressive Scan, you need to use component cables.
BIG thanks to BMAG. Lowered my sharpness and it looks much better. Also, my contrast came form the factory set to 100!
Can't get a calibration disc fast enough. I was told these HD sets come "out the box" ready ta go, but obviously, they do not.
Thanks again to all.
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Originally posted by BassDude
Yeah...the DVD has the Monster cable, component out and directly into the TV.
BIG thanks to BMAG. Lowered my sharpness and it looks much better. Also, my contrast came form the factory set to 100!
Can't get a calibration disc fast enough. I was told these HD sets come "out the box" ready ta go, but obviously, they do not.
Thanks again to all.
Yeah...the DVD has the Monster cable, component out and directly into the TV.
BIG thanks to BMAG. Lowered my sharpness and it looks much better. Also, my contrast came form the factory set to 100!
Can't get a calibration disc fast enough. I was told these HD sets come "out the box" ready ta go, but obviously, they do not.
Thanks again to all.
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At this point I would suggest that you read materials about "burn-in." I think they have it in an FAQ at www.avsforum.com.
At this point I would suggest that you read materials about "burn-in." I think they have it in an FAQ at www.avsforum.com.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=406182
Fortunately, I knew much of this information already. That's why I was shocked to see my contrast set to 100 from the factory. But you can never have too much info.
A new thing struck me as odd.. I popped in a full screen DVD, and it filled my screen completely. I expected to have bars at either side of the TV. The DVD player is set to 16:9 widescreen (as opposed to 4:3 options and 16:9 Shrink) Is seeing the full screen image across my entire widescreen correct?
(Thanks again for the "rookie" questions.)
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Originally posted by BassDude
A new thing struck me as odd.. I popped in a full screen DVD, and it filled my screen completely. I expected to have bars at either side of the TV. The DVD player is set to 16:9 widescreen (as opposed to 4:3 options and 16:9 Shrink) Is seeing the full screen image across my entire widescreen correct?
A new thing struck me as odd.. I popped in a full screen DVD, and it filled my screen completely. I expected to have bars at either side of the TV. The DVD player is set to 16:9 widescreen (as opposed to 4:3 options and 16:9 Shrink) Is seeing the full screen image across my entire widescreen correct?
Edit: I see you have the same brand as I do, Toshiba. The terms I used should apply exactly.
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Originally posted by BassDude
Fortunately, I knew much of this information already. That's why I was shocked to see my contrast set to 100 from the factory. But you can never have too much info.
Fortunately, I knew much of this information already. That's why I was shocked to see my contrast set to 100 from the factory. But you can never have too much info.
I would highly recommend Avia as a calibration disc, it's very much worth the investment.