What will be the summer's biggest bomb?

[Sierra Disc]

Every summer we have lots of hits but also a lot of movies that bomb pretty badly. What do you think will be the summer's "Gigli" or "Battlefield Earth" of these picks, or name your own?

Generally the criteria is something that cost a good bit of moolah, has a well known cast or special effects, and basically has something to lose. A small indie film like "Garden State" bombing isn't really the same kind of thing.

[matome]

Riddick looks like bomb city, but no way it will fall to Catwoman!

[mikehunt]

catwoman looks pretty bad

[Groucho]

The two biggest bombs of the year have already happened:

Hellboy

and now...

Mean Girls

[cdoug57]

Can anyone say "lasagna"?

Garfield

[Rypro 525]

no mention for troy? I don't think it'll break 150 million domestic in its entire run.

[Drop]

Tough choice, I still haven't decided, I mean this summer has the potential for more bombs than any other recent one I can remember (watch someone prove me wrong though). Personally I feel nothing for any of those movies, not an ounce of excitement.

[Groucho]

Originally posted by Rypro 525
no mention for troy? I don't think it'll break 150 million domestic in its entire run. Just because a movie doesn't break $150 million doesn't mean it'll be the summer's "biggest bomb."

[resinrats]

I'd say Garfield but considering how well Scooby Doo did, I'm betting the cat will bring in decent money.

I say Catwoman. Of course people might go to see it to see Halle Berry in the ripped leather outfit.

[Get Me Coffee]

It's Catwoman! Passing on this one....

[Mr. Salty]

Originally posted by Groucho
The two biggest bombs of the year have already happened:

Hellboy

and now...

Mean Girls

Neither of which are summer movies, which is the subject of this poll.

I also don't see how "Mean Girls" can be considered a bomb. It cost about a buck and a half to make and it's made almost $43 million in just two weeks.

[antennaball]

Originally posted by Mr. Salty
Neither of which are summer movies, which is the subject of this poll.

I also don't see how "Mean Girls" can be considered a bomb. It cost about a buck and a half to make and it's made almost $43 million in just two weeks.

Sarcasm isn't well received in this forum, is it?

[rushmore223]

Looks like it's gonna be a decisive victory for Catwoman. That and the victory it will have at the razzies.

Catwoman screams CRAP!

If not for Catwoman I would have either chosen King Arthur or Garfield.

[Corvin]

I'd say it's between Catwoman and Garfield. Both trailers looked pretty bad.

[MrX]

Catwoman

[Flay]

Why is I, Robot on the list? The only action movie it's up against for 3 weeks is King Arthur.

Will Smith + action + summer = $$$.

[Achtung]

Originally posted by antennaball
Sarcasm isn't well received in this forum, is it?

To be fair, it was a bit harder to pick up on than most of Groucho's posts.

[Obey The D]

Originally posted by Flay

Will Smith + action + summer = $$$.

Wild, Wild West

[Groucho]

Originally posted by Achtung
To be fair, it was a bit harder to pick up on than most of Groucho's posts. It was a coy reference to some recent box office threads...sorry. My real answer is Catwoman.

[PixyJunket]

I'll take a cream, STRAIGHT UP!!

[Flay]

Originally posted by Obey The D
Wild, Wild West



Independence Day
Men in Black
Men in Black II
Bad Boys II

Total Box Office: $884 million

[fryinpan1]

One more vote here for Catwoman.

[Obey The D]

Originally posted by Flay


Independence Day
Men in Black
Men in Black II
Bad Boys II

Total Box Office: $884 million



I'm aware of the fact that he has drawn big numbers at the BO, I was just pointing out that you can't assume it will be a hit because he's in it.

[Get Me Coffee]

Nice to see Catwomen over 55%! Niiiice! I'll love to see this stinker bomb! Two reasons...one WB and two Halle

[Kal-El]

Crapwoman.

[aerobson]

Originally posted by Groucho
Just because a movie doesn't break $150 million doesn't mean it'll be the summer's "biggest bomb."

Troy reportedly cost $150 million to make. If it doesn't make at least that much in ticket sales, then I would consider it a bomb. I think it will surpass $200 million in sales, though, so my vote is for Catwoman.

[Kicker_of_Elves]

Chalk up another vote for the Catwoman movie.

[Quake1028]

Catwoman.

[JustInsane]

I hope and pray Catwoman bombs, along with Garfield. Or may I just have something against cats. :-)

[Shannon Nutt]

As much as I am going to avoid Catwoman, I voted for Around The World in 80 Days...have you seen the trailers for this thing? We're talking super-duper bad. It would be nice to see Catwoman really bomb, though...just because I'm sick of all the poorly made comic book movies we've been getting.

[Groucho]

Originally posted by aerobson
Troy reportedly cost $150 million to make. If it doesn't make at least that much in ticket sales, then I would consider it a bomb.But the question was "Which will be the summer's biggest bomb?" So, if one movie cost $150 million and only made $149 million...it's isn't as big of a bomb that cost $30 million and only made $5 million.

[Gyno Rhino]

Catwoman/Around the World in 80 Days/Garfield.

Menage a trois de merde.

[birdseye]

Another vote here for Catwoman, though Garfield doesn't look any good either.

[Sessa17]

Anyone know what the budget is for Catwoman, b/c I may be the only one that doesn't think it's going to bomb. I'm not saying it looks good, I just think it will open huge, probably around $40 Million & at least make $100 million + overseas + DVD sales I think the movie will do just fine.

People that are saying that Around the World in 80 Days will bomb are way off, Chan is still huge around the world & that movie will more than make it's money back on overseas sales & DVD sales.

I seem to be alone, in that I think everyone here is wrong. With DVD sales making nearly 50% of summer movie gross (according to the NY Post interview with DC & Pixar execs) I really don't think any major summer release will bomb. "Bomb" to me means it will not make it's money back.

If I have to pick one movie that would be close to a bomb, with a less than stellar success, I would go with Thunderbirds, I'm sure the movie wasn't exactly cheap to make, & unless the release date changed, the movie is opening up w/ The Village & Manchurian Candidate. I can't see this movie making more than $50 million.

[calhoun07]

Garfield cannot and will not fail because it's not in the same category as those other movies listed. The other movies listed were titles geared towards a definately older audience range, at least the 18-45 age group. The 18-45 age group easilly recognizes that crap like Scooby Doo and Cat in the Hat are pure crap. The average DVDtalker will not see any of those movies. Those movies and Garfield are geared towards kids, and kids will drag their parents in droves to Garfield. I predict it will not only do smashingly well, but they are already planning a sequel and will green light those plans based on a successful first week.

Catwoman, on the other hand, isn't striking a chord with it's target audience, so will respectfully BOMB.

[DRG]

This is a tough call. I'll exclude Stepford Wives, King Arthur and Manchurian Candidate because those three might do decent box office. Garfield will probably do good business no matter how awful it is. I Robot will be a disappointment, but not a major one. Around the World in 80 Days will be a mild bomb as well. Riddick will be a disaster compared to cost, but should still fetch $20 mil opening weekend or so.

Leaving Catwoman and Thunderbirds, both will bomb hard. Catwoman will get some business due to Halle and the laugh factor. But the budget will guarantee it'll be a bomb. Then you got Thunderbirds... who is this for? It's based on a show only 30+ year olds should remember, yet they're aiming it at the under ten market. Maybe it'll pull in kid business despite this, but I dunno. They should've tried for more of an all-ages approach.

[Geofferson]

I think The Chronicles of Riddick and King Arthur will both perform sub-par.

[metaridley]

Catwoman is really the choice with biggest bomb potential.

[JPRaup]

catwoman looks horrible

[cruzness]

Catwoman - Personally I think WB had big hopes for this 10 ton anchor to float. Some of the other choices don't seem to movies that a major studio is banking on.

[scott1598]

prob catwoman

[fumanstan]

Didn't even Wild Wild West open fairly decently for Willy?

Anyway, a vote for Catwoman, although Garfield looks pretty bad too.

[fumanstan]

Oh, and i thought Around the World in 80 Days looked great :)

[Breakfast with Girls]

Catwoman. Although I, Robot deserves to fail equally.

[Obey The D]

Originally posted by fumanstan
Didn't even Wild Wild West open fairly decently for Willy?

Anyway, a vote for Catwoman, although Garfield looks pretty bad too.

It took in about $115 million (domestic gross), but the budget was around $170 million (plus another $50 million for marketing).

[whynotsmile]

catwomen will do good numbers for the first week, due to it being a comic book movie staring halle berry. also, because it looks so freakin bad, you can expect some extra seats in there. after fans of the character and fan boys ready to laugh their ass off see it, thats it. bomb city, until it it picks up 10 years down the road as a cult classic.

[xraybies]

I also vote Catwoman but no one's brought up The Day After Tomorrow which looks like a stinker.

[mookiemeister]

What is Chronicles of Riddick all about? I kinda know the premise of all other movies except this one. So I voted for it.

[jaeufraser]

Originally posted by mookiemeister
What is Chronicles of Riddick all about? I kinda know the premise of all other movies except this one. So I voted for it.

It's the mega budget Vin Diesel sci-fi action epic thingy. The sorta sequel to Pitch Black.

While I don't think this will be the biggest bomb (I still think this might be a kick ass movie) I think this flick will struggle to succeed financially considering it's enormous budget. Catwoman won't be a hit and has a high chance of just outright bombing. I know I won't be seeing it, and I see lots of everything.

[El-Kabong]

Originally posted by Sierra Disc
Generally the criteria is something that cost a good bit of moolah, has a well known cast or special effects, and basically has something to lose. A small indie film like "Garden State" bombing isn't really the same kind of thing.

Before I viote, define bombing. Is it a movie that is univeraly panned and stinks on ice, or is a 'bomb' something that doesnt make coin at the box office.

[gmal2003]

Umfortunately, Catwoman might not be the big bomb that it should. Halle's looks alone will pull in some moviegoers. It wil definitely bomb, but maybe not the biggest bomb this summer.

[SomeVoices]

Originally posted by xraybies
I also vote Catwoman but no one's brought up The Day After Tomorrow which looks like a stinker.

Perhaps, but I'm looking forward to it :).

But yeah, I'll go with Catwoman.

[wm lopez]

If they released CATWOMAN on Memorial Day weekend againest no new movie it would still bomb.
It would be #1, but with $13mil. and then drop 75% the following week.

[B.A.]

I think many of those movies are not going to do well, but I still think Catwoman is the biggest bomb of them all.

[RyoHazuki]

Catwoman had a $100 mil budget so my vote goes to Catwoman. It also opens against the Bourne Supremecy which should get most of the action fare buisness. The Village, Manchurian Candidate and Thunderbirds open the week after. Expect Catwoman to drop like a rock.

[cleaver]

For the summer, definitely Catwoman, but it will be tough to top The Alamo for bomb of 2004.

[custom001]

Whoa, Catwoman gets a lot of hostility here! :lol:
Probably I should watch the trailer (didn't bother yet.)
From the previews I've seen, unfortunately I have to go with Riddick.

Although I loved Pitch Black, this monster of a movie looks radiculos. :(

[MrN]

Originally posted by El-Kabong
Before I viote, define bombing. Is it a movie that is univeraly panned and stinks on ice, or is a 'bomb' something that doesnt make coin at the box office.

A bomb (or a hit) are defined by box office. Because plenty of films reviled by critics have made mucho money and vice versa.

I remember when the thread first started, someone voted for Spiderman - I guess they changed their mind.

[Sierra Disc]

Originally posted by El-Kabong
Before I viote, define bombing. Is it a movie that is univeraly panned and stinks on ice, or is a 'bomb' something that doesnt make coin at the box office.

Obviously, the point of this thread is all about the financial take of the movies, not their artistic merit.

[SunMonkey]

Thunderbirds

[raven56706]

the sh!t i am going to take soon

[Giles]

Originally posted by cleaver
For the summer, definitely Catwoman, but it will be tough to top The Alamo for bomb of 2004.

out of curiosity, how much money has "The Alamo" made?

[animalmystic]

Originally posted by RyoHazuki
Catwoman had a $100 mil budget so my vote goes to Catwoman. It also opens against the Bourne Supremecy which should get most of the action fare buisness. The Village, Manchurian Candidate and Thunderbirds open the week after. Expect Catwoman to drop like a rock.

I totally agree!

[animalmystic]

Originally posted by Giles
out of curiosity, how much money has "The Alamo" made?


I believe its only made about 25-30 million to date, I haven't found a reliable source for this information, its just the bits and pieces I put together

[fryinpan1]

Originally posted by Giles
out of curiosity, how much money has "The Alamo" made?

Total as of Apr. 9, 2004: $21,790,818
+ Overseas Gross: $1,531,000

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=alamo.htm

[matome]

Wow, even Catwoman may be able to scrounge up more than that! I believe that date should read May 9th though.

[FrankTheTank]

Catwoman.

The trailer is horrible.

[Abob Teff]

Catwoman is now over 62% with my vote. I'd have said "Alamo" but I guess it technically wasn't a summer flick.

[SunMonkey]

Here is how it tallied up using all summer movies mentioned, listed worst to best:


Title : US sales : Total sales : Budget : US sales as % of budget: Total sales as % of budget

1. Thunderbirds : $6,768,055 : $20,795,193 : $70,000,000 : 10% : 30%

2. Around The World In 80 Days : $24,004,159 : $50,203,112 : $110,000,000 : 22% : 46%

3. Catwoman* : $40,198,710 : $65,339,200 : $100,000,000 : 40% : 65%

4. Manchurian Candidate* : $65,581,463 : n/a : $80,000,000 : 81% : n/a

5. Chronicles of Riddick : $57,712,751 : $110,144,062 : $120,000,000 : 48% : 92%

6. Stepford Wives : $59,475,623 : $96,221,971 : $100,000,000 : 65% : 96%

7. King Arthur : $51,877,963 : $176,663,276 : $90,000,000 : 57% : 196%

8. Garfield* : $75,346,123 : $161,293,935 : $70,000,000 : 108% : 230%

9. I, Robot* : $144,044,139 : $294,629,781 : $105,000,000 : 137% : 281%


For comparison:

The Alamo : $22,406,362 : $23,911,362 : $92,000,000 : 24% : 26%

Troy : $133,298,577 : $489,174,918 : $150,000,000 : 89% : 326%

* still in theaters
all raw numbers except Chronicles of Riddick from: http://www.the-numbers.com
Chronicles of Riddick box office numbers from: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=chroniclesofriddick.htm

[jaeufraser]

I think your Riddick numbers seem low. Everything I read lists international BO being a little bit higher than the domestic take, for a total of like 110 million. Or so I recall.

The rest is on target. Thunderbirds had to hurt.

[Sierra Disc]

Wow, I forgot all about starting this thread way back when. "Catwoman" was a nobrainer but a lot of these others like "Riddick" and "Thunderbirds" did equally bad.

"Troy" got pegged as a mild disappointment but really when you factor in the huge international success it was one of the year's biggest hits!

[SunMonkey]

Originally posted by jaeufraser
I think your Riddick numbers seem low. Everything I read lists international BO being a little bit higher than the domestic take, for a total of like 110 million. Or so I recall.

Like I said, I got the numbers from one site. If they are wrong, link me another number and I'll update it. I thought that number seemed low, too.

[Get Me Coffee]

Originally posted by Sierra Disc

"Troy" got pegged as a mild disappointment but really when you factor in the huge international success it was one of the year's biggest hits!

Wow Troy was killed with the BO

[wm lopez]

What ever happend to THE MASK 2?
I thought that was coming out this past summer.
Everybody hated the trailer.

[jaeufraser]

Originally posted by SunMonkey
Like I said, I got the numbers from one site. If they are wrong, link me another number and I'll update it. I thought that number seemed low, too.

There ya go.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=chroniclesofriddick.htm

110 million total there total gross.

[Matthew Chmiel]

What ever happend to THE MASK 2?
New Line has it set for a February 2005 release in 3000+ locations.

[SunMonkey]

Originally posted by jaeufraser
There ya go.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=chroniclesofriddick.htm

110 million total there total gross.

Thanks, and fixed. Moved CoR down to 5th, behind now Catwoman and Manchurian Candidate.

[SunMonkey]

Originally posted by Matthew Chmiel
New Line has it set for a February 2005 release in 3000+ locations.
Probably not a good sign.

[Hiro11]

Garfield was a modest hit? You could knock me down with a feather.

[nodeerforamonth]

Whatever movie has Ben Affleck in it.

[tanman]

Originally posted by Hiro11
Garfield was a modest hit? You could knock me down with a feather.

never underestimate the power of the "kid" dollar. Precisely why they changed Kangaroo Jack from an adult comedy to a forced "kid movie" featuring a talking kangaroo for two minutes. A move which probably saved them millions of dollars.