Metroid Prime 2: Echoes

[jediwicz]

Nintendo has their E3 preview up on the official site. Hmm...Echoes. Game Informer was speculating on a sound visor. Sounds like it might be reality. The Ing. A light/dark world and multiplayer. Prime is still my favorite GCN game and Prime 2 is looking just as good. Can't wait.

[nickdawgy]

Hmm, that reminds me. I still have to finish Metroid Prime.

[PixyJunket]

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[costanza]

maybe it's about samus's early carrier in the navy where she was a sonar operator?

[CreatureX]

http://media.nintendo.com/mediaFiles/dee5547f-1f5d-4c62-83c4-cda74b54fcda.jpg

Nice! :D

[spainlinx0]

I never did beat the first one. I should go back and do that.

[Gromit]

I would love to finish the first one, but I got to a point that it was kicking my ass and I gave up.

[jediwicz]

Omega Pirate gave me a problem but I finished 100%. I still go back and explore (I leave the crater and just go). Somehow I always end up in Phendrana (on the highest ledge) enjoying the view in progressive scan on a widescreen HDTV with a Wavebird in hand. Echoes has a lot to live up to.

[Gromit]

I think I'm stuck on Omega Pirate. That sounds very familiar. I remember having to switch to xray vision to see some weak points and there are puddles of health-draining ooze around.

I was really really loving this game. Then I hit a brick wall. Initially, the control scheme drove me nuts, but I got used to it. IIRC, the awkward controls really made this part difficult.

[huh?]

Originally posted by Gromit
I think I'm stuck on Omega Pirate. That sounds very familiar. I remember having to switch to xray vision to see some weak points and there are puddles of health-draining ooze around.

I was really really loving this game. Then I hit a brick wall. Initially, the control scheme drove me nuts, but I got used to it. IIRC, the awkward controls really made this part difficult.

i was stuck on this part too for the longest time, but i finally beat it. wow, that was a tough bastard.

the multiplayer should be AWSESOME. I can't wait to use the ice beam on someone :)

[mtucker]

Sounds like we're reminiscing about the Metroid Prime. During my first play-through I was very annoyed when I reached the portion where you had to have all the artifacts and I only had about 3 of them. I swear I didn't know from the beginning of my play-through that I would need those artifacts. At least the game gave clear hints on where the artifacts were located.

Looking forward to the next in the series.

[tanman]

MP could not have been better. It was one of the few games that I had high expectations for and they were meet and highly succeeded. I really expected it to be at least half as long. I cannot wait for the Second one.

[tenaciousdave]

I don't see how multipayer could be very good with the current Metroid Prime control scheme. The levels would all have to be flat as moving and looking up and down can't happen, and you locked on to all enemies. Two people would lock on to each other and it would be who could shoot fastest? That doesn't sound fun.

The only way I could see it working would be if it was goal based instead of kills, but I don't see that being very fun either.

BTW, I loved Prime and can't wait for 2. I just don't get the multiplayer yet. Hope it's playable when I'm at E3.

[tanman]

Not necessarily. If someone locks on to you you could roll into a ball and dash or try and hide behind something. You can still look around as well.

[PixyJunket]

I shall give some thoughts now.

Now, right off I want to shoot off strings of vulgar words at the inclusion of multiplayer.. BUUUT, Nintendo has a history of making me put my foot in my mouth, so I'll hold off until I get to try it.. though I will say that unless they find something unique to do with it (ie: Zelda Four Swords) this will lower Metroid Prime into a typical FPS, which is what they tried SOOO hard (and accomplished) to prove that it wasn't with the first game.

I do like the idea of light/dark world. I like the idea of using sound as an important factor of the game, I thought having the hidden items in Prime 1 emit a humming sound to clue in their exsistance was just BRILLIANT.. and I'd love to see sound taken to further use in the game. I do hope Metroids play some part in the game, and I hope they are little pansies like in Prime 1. Metroid Zero Mission showed us how Metroids SHOULD be.

The controls for Prime were PERFECT, and I hope they remain unchanged or tweaked as opposed to totally changed to cater to the FPS kids (which seems like the sole reason for inclusion of multi-player).

I would also like to see the title simply be Metroid Echoes. That sounds classy.

[CreatureX]

I have complete faith in Retro Stuidos that they will handle multiplayer perfectly. I was one of the doubters when I first heard Metroid Prime was going to be a first person adventure. However Retro pulled off the first person perspective perfectly and delivered, IMO, the greatest Metroid game since Super Metroid. Retro Studios have earned my faith! :)

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by CreatureX
I have complete faith in Retro Stuidos that they will handle multiplayer perfectly. I was one of the doubters when I first heard Metroid Prime was going to be a first person adventure. However Retro pulled off the first person perspective perfectly and delivered, IMO, the greatest Metroid game since Super Metroid. Retro Studios have earned my faith! :) Oh trust me.. I spewed more blind hateful venom against Prime than every single member of this forum combined. I ate my crow and it was very tasty. Metroid Prime is almost fully responsible for getting me BACK into video games. I have all the faith in the world for them. However, that doesn't let them off the hook that it appears, for all intents and purposes, that adding multiplayer is simply to please the little brats that would say something like "(insert generic FPS title here) is much better than Metroid Prime!!" when Metroid was never meant to be a typical FPS. Again, I state that I'd love to see something unique come from the multiplayer game, and if anybody can do it, Nintendo and Retro can. It's really just that same fear I had when Prime was first announced that it would be a generic FPS game and be nothing like Metroid. I was proved wrong once and I challenge them to prove me wrong this time as well.

[spainlinx0]

You know I never noticed that humming.

[eatntae]

I'll be getting Metroid Prime 2 for it's single player mode. Regardless of how the multiplayer turns out, the single player will be awesome if it's anything like MP1. If the multiplayer is good, then it's a pleasant surprise. If not, then oh well. I don't expect Retro and Nintendo to sacrifice the story and gameplay of the single player mode just to add some multi.

[PixyJunket]

Here's the most bad ass Metroid wallpaper I've ever seen:
http://www.grant-henry.com/metroid_wallpapers/metroidprime2.jpg

[TheDude]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
Here's the most bad ass Metroid wallpaper I've ever seen:
http://www.grant-henry.com/metroid_wallpapers/metroidprime2.jpg

WHOA!!! -eek-

[jabbas]

lets hope that the retro people don't make the same mistake the UbiSoft people did with Splinter Cell: Pandora's Tomorrow, and that is focus so much on the multiplayer game that the single player game is terrible compared to the first one.

Splinter cell went from 9 to 6 levels, and the level of difficulty dropped exponentially so it could be finished in one sitting. The first game took some real effort to complete.

I think with no on line support, 95% of people will be buying Prime for the single player game. Therefore the single player game better be at least as good as the original (which is one of my top 5 games EVER) no matter how good the multiplayer game is for me to be really happy with it.

[darqleo]

Metroid Prime was frickin' awesome. Hopefully the multiplayer aspect is just a footnote as I don't care about that stuff. I just want more of the same, but with a different world to explore.

[Josh H]

Originally posted by darqleo
Metroid Prime was frickin' awesome. Hopefully the multiplayer aspect is just a footnote as I don't care about that stuff.

Same here.

I don't see how a traditional deathmatch would work with the autoaim scheme of the first game, and I loved that control set up and would likely pass on the second if it had the "halo" type control as the c-stick on the GC controller is useless as a control stick.

[Jeremy517]

Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I loved that control set up and would likely pass on the second if it had the "halo" type control as the c-stick on the GC controller is useless as a control stick.

It shouldn't be required, but it should be an option.

[Josh H]

Originally posted by Jeremy517
It shouldn't be required, but it should be an option.

I don't mind it being an option, as long as the lock on scheme of the game is the default and what the single player game is designed around.

I could care less about the multiplayer as I never play multiplayer games. Games are my "alone time."

[mtucker]

I was thinking, a co-op Metroid could be pretty badass. If I had any friends.

[illennium]

Zero interest in multiplayer. I only know one other person who plays videogames, and he lives on the opposite coast. I hope they focus on the single-player game.

[jediwicz]

Don't know if y'all been voting for the bracket tournament on Gamefaqs.com. It's for "Best Game Ever" (whatever) and they're up to this gen consoles/PC. It was pretty funny-the other day Starcraft beat Halo. Metroid Prime is up against Half Life today. My point...vote.

[PixyJunket]

I wouldn't touch GameFAQs with someone else's computer.

[jediwicz]

The new footage is looking good. The whole light/dark story sounds cool with the dimensional rift being created by you. The new weapons look sweet but no new visor info? God I want to play this...and holy shit...Metroid Prime Hunters: for the DS.

[Get Me Coffee]

Originally posted by mtucker
I was thinking, a co-op Metroid could be pretty badass. If I had any friends.

I know....it would have been great in high school or college .....but now it doesn't. Love my Xbox Live.

[PixyJunket]

Okay, okay. The dark matter stuff looks AWESOME. I love the shot where it swallowed up that alien and made it more powerful. If done right, this could be so cool. Sort of how the X virus in Fusion could eat up another enemy and make it stronger, I loved that.

Dark Samus? :eek:

My favorite part of the video was MULTIPLE LOCK ON MISSLES.

[CreatureX]

Originally posted by Get Me Coffee
I know....it would have been great in high school or college .....but now it doesn't. Love my Xbox Live. I would disagree. Playing with friends in the same room still beats playing people over the net anytime.

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by CreatureX
I would disagree. Playing with friends in the same room still beats playing people over the net anytime. This is so true. Nothing beats playing stuff like Wario Ware or Mario Kart drunk with a group of people being able to joke and razz each other in person. I love playing on Live, but not knowing the people and talking through the headset.. it's just a totally different experience.

[Get Me Coffee]

Been there done that! Multi player mode is worthless for me, have no friends that are into video games...wish it had some type of online gaming mode.

[Josh H]

Originally posted by CreatureX
I would disagree. Playing with friends in the same room still beats playing people over the net anytime.

Indeed. I'm not big on multi-player gaming in general, but I do enjoy an occasional game with some buddies, beer and trash talking.

It's just not the same playing online IMO, even if its with friends, much less with random people.

[PixyJunket]

:lol:

I could see an online Metroid.

"Good game!"
"Eat my shit asshat! I'm so high right now!"

"Samus is so hot I'm jacking off to her right now!"

[Get Me Coffee]

C'mon guys....you got to find the right people to play with.

[PixyJunket]

I know, I know.. I've met lots of cool peeps on Live :D

But you gotta admit, the above is pretty frequent.

[Get Me Coffee]

It is frequent! "I'm drunk, I'm so high"...but once you're all set with good people it fun.

[Josh H]

Originally posted by Get Me Coffee
C'mon guys....you got to find the right people to play with.

I just prefer to play by myself most of the time, and in the few times I'm up for some multiplayer, I want to have my friends all in the same room so we can pound some beers and talk shit in person.

[PixyJunket]

SCREW ATTACK!! SCREW ATTACK!!

[PixyJunket]

There's an interview on IGN.com that talks about Prime 2 a bit.

The game's length is said to be about the same as the first.
The story will be told through the gameplay again, not dialouge/text. (YAY!)
Screw attack, not a weapon, but used to wall jump.
Screw attack in 3rd person mode because 1st person would make you ill. :lol:
Light and Dark beams have limited ammo.
Dark Samus isn't as prominent as the trailers make it out to be.
Retro has worked hard to make the load times even shorter!

[flashburn]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
There's an interview on IGN.com that talks about Prime 2 a bit.

The game's length is said to be about the same as the first.
The story will be told through the gameplay again, not dialouge/text. (YAY!)
Screw attack, not a weapon, but used to wall jump.
Screw attack in 3rd person mode because 1st person would make you ill. :lol:
Light and Dark beams have limited ammo.
Dark Samus isn't as prominent as the trailers make it out to be.
Retro has worked hard to make the load times even shorter!

Hooray on all counts, I guess. I am glad they are going for the same length as the first, as I thought it was perfect. Wasn't too short, to leave me wanting more, but wasn't long enough to bore me (could that even happen?).

Then again, how is a screw attack not a weapon? It isn't much of an attack then, is it?

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by flashburn
Hooray on all counts, I guess. I am glad they are going for the same length as the first, as I thought it was perfect. Wasn't too short, to leave me wanting more, but wasn't long enough to bore me (could that even happen?).

Then again, how is a screw attack not a weapon? It isn't much of an attack then, is it? Yes, even the best games can get boring if drug on too long, balance is key and Prime was prefect in that aspect. It was long enough to be a fulfilling experience, but short enough to enjoy multiple plays (hard mode, speed runs, 100% runs, etc.)

Screw Attack, not much of an attack.. well the way I figure is they're naming the item after the classic item of course; but the screw attack as it is in the 2D games probably wouldn't work right (or well enough to make it a worthwhile item) in 3D, so they decided to use it for another purpose.

[PixyJunket]

I thought there'd be more love for Prime 2 around here. :(

There's a roundtable up on IGN.com now, they go into more details on the game. They explain that the weapons are used for more than attacking; the light beam turns things on while the dark beams turns them off, the light beam cause things to grow while the dark beam causes them to decay.. Now this I like, the multiplayer mode is not based on number of kills, but on a token system. Tokens are generated by various means including attacking other plays, but the key is that even if you scored the successful attack, anybody can pick up the token. It appears that they really are trying to create a game that isn't a typical deathmatch game, I'm glad to hear that. Some other bits I remember reading is that you can fire while using the grapple beam, this was added just for the multiplayer mode. The scan visor is used to upload viruses to other players suits that will disable weapons or items, cause controls to malfunction or other effects. They mentioned they had to work hard on Dark Samus as an enemy to make her as impressive as the huge five-story bosses they've been creating, and they think they've accomplished that.

[flashburn]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
I thought there'd be more love for Prime 2 around here. :(

There's a roundtable up on IGN.com now, they go into more details on the game. They explain that the weapons are used for more than attacking; the light beam turns things on while the dark beams turns them off, the light beam cause things to grow while the dark beam causes them to decay.. Now this I like, the multiplayer mode is not based on number of kills, but on a token system. Tokens are generated by various means including attacking other plays, but the key is that even if you scored the successful attack, anybody can pick up the token. It appears that they really are trying to create a game that isn't a typical deathmatch game, I'm glad to hear that. Some other bits I remember reading is that you can fire while using the grapple beam, this was added just for the multiplayer mode. The scan visor is used to upload viruses to other players suits that will disable weapons or items, cause controls to malfunction or other effects. They mentioned they had to work hard on Dark Samus as an enemy to make her as impressive as the huge five-story bosses they've been creating, and they think they've accomplished that.


There are 2 different types of multiplayer, Deathmatch and Tokens. I honestly could care less about multiplayer, as I think with the ability to lock on, it will make for some uninteresting boredom.

As long as the single player experience is up to par with the last title, I will be happy.

[Josh H]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
I thought there'd be more love for Prime 2 around here. :(


I can't wait for it. I think the Zelda surprise showing just killed the hype for MP2 as everyone already new about it. Plus, as sad is it is, MP really didn't sell that well.

[PixyJunket]

The way I read the interview was that there was no direct kill to win mode. Maybe I misread. But I agree, 99% of this game has got to be the single player game, but from day one I've been interested in what they were going to do to make the multiplayer unique. Also, lock-on doesn't mean instant boredom.. your opponent will be moving, lock-on will not be 100%, plus morph ball, grapple beam, etc.

[flashburn]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
The way I read the interview was that there was no direct kill to win mode. Maybe I misread. But I agree, 99% of this game has got to be the single player game, but from day one I've been interested in what they were going to do to make the multiplayer unique. Also, lock-on doesn't mean instant boredom.. your opponent will be moving, lock-on will not be 100%, plus morph ball, grapple beam, etc.

From IGN's Roundtable
For the E3 demo we've shown you two game types: the standard deathmatch and a multiplayer game we're calling Bounty Mode.

[CreatureX]

Originally posted by flashburn
I honestly could care less about multiplayer, as I think with the ability to lock on, it will make for some uninteresting boredom Straight from GameSpot hands-on impressions (http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/metroidprime2tentativetitle/preview_6098127.html) : On paper, the thought of a competitive first-person shooter with easy-to-use lock-on capabilities sounds like a really terrible idea. Part of the skill set that makes first-person shooters fun in a competitive environment is having to aim and time your shots just right to hit your enemies. Metroid Prime 2 dodges a bullet here, because from what we've seen so far, the game is still fun even with the ability to lock-on. The map on display has plenty of cover to hide behind, and even plain old strafing is enough to dodge a great deal of incoming fire. Missiles seem to do a better job of hitting your targets, but you're limited on missile ammo. Rolling up into a ball and dropping bombs near an ongoing battle is also a nice tactic, as players don't tend to notice the bombs until it's too late. I knew Retro wouldn't let us down! :D

[tanman]

I definately have the interest but it is a sequel so we know what to expect and there haven't been a great deal of details that have been released. So interest is high we just know what to expect more then Zelda or the DS.

[darqleo]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
I thought there'd be more love for Prime 2 around here. :(


I'm showing the love! As far as console games go, this and Zelda are the only one's I'm looking forward to this year. Maybe that Final Fantasy-ized LOTR game too, depends on how it turns out.

[CreatureX]

Originally posted by darqleo
I'm showing the love! As far as console games go, this and Zelda are the only one's I'm looking forward to this year. Maybe that Final Fantasy-ized LOTR game too, depends on how it turns out. Well Metroid is coming out this year, but I don't think Zelda will come out until next year. However don't forget about Resident Evil 4 coming later this year as well.

[Josh H]

Originally posted by CreatureX
Well Metroid is coming out this year, but I don't think Zelda will come out until next year. However don't forget about Resident Evil 4 coming later this year as well.

No, I just read on www.1up.com that Zelda will be playable at E3 2005, so it looks like that will be a late summer or fall 2005 release.

[msdmoney]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
I thought there'd be more love for Prime 2 around here. :( Definitely excited about this game, I think it just got overshadowed by Zelda at E3. But the Zelda news is gonna die down since it won't be out for a while and Metroid Prime will get more love now as it gets closer to release.

Very interested to see how the multiplayer turns out, and it sounds like they have some good ideas to enhance the single player game that was near perfect already.

[jediwicz]

I'm taking that infernal week off in Nov. when RE4 and Echoes come out. I took a week off for Prime and Windwaker, I owe both of these games my undivided attention (my wife uses the widescreen HDTV at night and a whole week off of would give me hours of progressive scan heaven).

The new dark/light beam looks awesome in motion and the whole ammo consumption aspect adds depth (with a hint of Ikaruga). I'm dying to see what the new visor will look like.

As far as the multiplayer goes I think of it as an added bonus. The hacking visor idea is cool and the grapple/shoot will be fun to mess around with. Metroid Prime Hunters sounds more like an intriguing multiplayer experience to me. Great E3 though.

[jeffdsmith]

Has Nintendo said anything regarding LAN play?

[PixyJunket]

I don't recall.. but as of now I'm going to try not to read too much or watch any more videos for the game. I know it's going to kick ass, and I want any and all elements I already don't know about to take me by surprise.

[CreatureX]

Originally posted by jeffdsmith
Has Nintendo said anything regarding LAN play? I read an interview over at IGN where they said there would be no LAN play. :(

[jediwicz]

On a related note, Miyamoto has said Metroid Prime: Hunters will now include the (in)ability to use the touch screen. You can use the buttons or the touch-screen for firing. I thought the screen idea was cool but I can see how it might get akward.

BTW, IGN's video footage of the screw attack, morphball cannon and Space Pirate hovercraft looks goooood. Can't wait. Two Metroids by years end.

[nickdawgy]

Yet I still haven't finished the first one....

[SomeVoices]

Originally posted by nickdawgy
Yet I still haven't finished the first one....

Me neither, but that's ok cause I'm sure I'll buy the second one and not beat that.

[greenknight]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
:lol:

I could see an online Metroid.

"Good game!"
"Eat my shit asshat! I'm so high right now!"

"Samus is so hot I'm jacking off to her right now!"

:lol:

[jeffdsmith]

I just started playing Prime again, after a year or so hiatus. Thankfully I've forgotten most of the secrets and surprises. It is a DAMN good game, I can't wait for the sequel.

I know Halo 2 will get most of the love because of live, but come November I'll be sitting down with Prime2 first.

[Outlaw]

Looks awesome, can't wait! Metroid Prime is one of my favorite games of all time. It had the whole package, great gameplay, music, enemies, and the whole world was so diverse.

I still remember the first time I got to the Phendrana Drifts, my jaw dropped in awe. -eek-

[jabbas]

just replayed Prime, and while I got through it a lot quicker the second time (9 hours as opposed to 16) and didn't struggle nearly as much with the bosses (Elite Pirate and Ridley) I still found it to be amazing. It's one of those great games, a lot like Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast for the Xbox/PC where your character gets so exponentially stronger as the game progresses it makes it more and more fun to play. Having replayed Wind Waker the week before (can you tell me the E4 footage got me a bit pumped) I think Prime's the best GC game out there, and Echoes sounds even better..

[Josh H]

Originally posted by jeffdsmith

I know Halo 2 will get most of the love because of live, but come November I'll be sitting down with Prime2 first.

Same here. I probably won't even buy Halo 2 right away as I just won't have time for it with school, Prime 2, the LOTR rpg, Paper Mario 2, etc.

I liked Halo a lot, but not enough to make it my primary game this fall. I'm not big on FPS's, and Prime didn't really feel like an FPS with the lock on, scanning and emphasis on exploration. Nintendo's "First Person Adventure" moniker fit well I thought.

[jediwicz]

A Metroid Prime GCN Bundle is coming according to IGN. No pics and it doesn't say if it's new paint for the cube but it is going to have an Echoes demo. No word on if demo will be availiable solo either. Neeed.

[jediwicz]

Yup, the bundle is coming Aug 15th and will include a platinum GCN, Metroid Prime and a Metroid Prime II: Echoes demo. The demo has a playable level and a History of Metroid feature. I already reserved my demo at Nintendo.com. If you are an Nsider and have a GCN and five games registered the demo is free. I just confirmed my copy and it's supposed to ship Aug. 20th. I'm stoked.

[CreatureX]

Here is the info on the disk and how to score one!

http://www.nintendopower.com/metroidprime2/

The disk contains:

Metroid Prime 2 Echoes playable demo
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes movie trailers
Metroid art gallery
The Metroid Chronicle

Three ways to score this disk:

1. $99.99 Nintendo GC Metroid Prime Bundle (includes platinum GC, Metroid Prime (original), Metroid Prime 2 Demo disk)

2. Subscribe to or renew an existing subscription to Nintendo Power magazine.

3. Register at Nintendo.com and then register a GameCube system and five or more selected games listed on the website.

http://www.nintendopower.com/metroidprime2/

Looks like I need one more registered game to qualify for this...

[PixyJunket]

*screams*

[CreatureX]

Cool box for the bundle...

http://www.gcadvanced.com/images/games/thumbs/PrimeBundle-1.jpg (http://www.gcadvanced.com/images/games/PrimeBundle-1.jpg)
Click for bigger pic

[remjim]

Argh! I want that demom disk but I don't own the games that you need to register. So what if I have a ton of other Gamecube games, they obviously don't count :(.

BTW- That box rules.

[Get Me Coffee]

Originally posted by CreatureX
Cool box for the bundle...

http://www.gcadvanced.com/images/games/thumbs/PrimeBundle-1.jpg (http://www.gcadvanced.com/images/games/PrimeBundle-1.jpg)
Click for bigger pic

Thats one cool looking box!

Too bad most of them will end up here...

http://www.alamance-nc.com/healthed/landfill.jpg

[PixyJunket]

Holy crap. Would it be odd if I wanted to buy that, just for the box?

[tanman]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
Holy crap. Would it be odd if I wanted to buy that, just for the box?

No, more like expected from you. :)

[tanman]

Cool, I can score the disk. I have more than five of those games.

These selected Nintendo titles contain an insert with a unique PIN printed on it. That PIN is your key to unlocking exclusive bonuses on Nintendo.com!


Pokémon Colosseum

Mario Kart: Double Dash!!

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga

WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles

Mario Party 5

Classic NES Series: Bomberman

Classic NES Series: Excitebike

Classic NES Series: Ice Climber

Classic NES Series: Super Mario Bros.

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1080° Avalanche

Custom Robo

Legend of Zelda, The: Four Swords Adventures

Mario Golf: Advance Tour

Metroid: Zero Mission

GBA Video: Pokémon - For Ho-Oh the Bells Toll!

GBA Video: Pokémon - Johto Photo Finish

Mario vs. Donkey Kong

Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Games




I Just have to find the registration numbers.

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by tanman
No, more like expected from you. :) Excellent. Woo! I have over 5 of those on the list as well.. I think I've already entered all my codes though. I'll have to check the site when I get home.

[tanman]

Thank you!

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WooHooo!!!!

[PixyJunket]

I got my confirmation as well.

[darkside]

Mine is on the way as well. Glad Nintendo is once again making this easy for people to get that don't want to buy a new Cube.

[Joe Molotov]

Yay, got my demo disc on confirmed as well.

Even though it's not a big deal, I still like this thing that Nintendo's doing with registering games and getting free stuff. I was hoping The Legend of Zelda Collection wouldn't be the end of it and I'm glad to see it isn't.

[darkside]

Originally posted by Joe Molotov
Yay, got my demo disc on confirmed as well.

Even though it's not a big deal, I still like this thing that Nintendo's doing with registering games and getting free stuff. I was hoping The Legend of Zelda Collection wouldn't be the end of it and I'm glad to see it isn't.

The only frustrating thing is they are doing a lot more with it in Japan. You can get a lot of free stuff by registering games there. Here all we have gotten are the two bonus discs.

I'm not complaining about the discs, but it would be nice to get all the Mario goodies and other stuff given away in Japan.

[Apocrypha]

Damn! I need one more game to qualify
now I need to get Zelda 4 Swords at least its on sale right now

it is kind of weak that so few games can be registered.

[jediwicz]

I have 14 games registered through My Nintendo and 3 systems. All the Classic NES GBA games count and 2 are on sale this week at Best Buy for 16.99. Agreed, if Nintendo would give the American market a Club Nintendo I would be a much happier fanboy. This Metroid demo should be great though.

[Josh H]

I'll have to pass on the disk. I only have 2 games on the list (Mario Kart: DD and Metroid Zero Mission, and there's only 1 more I want (Mario and Luigi). And I definitely don't want a subscription to NP.

[remjim]

Wow, has anyone been over to Cheap Ass Gamer? There are a lot of people begging for the pins in the Metroid Prime 2:Echoes Demo thread.

I imagine I shouldn't be shocked by this...but I am.

Maybe EB and Gamestop will be sellig this for about ten bucks when it comes out, the same as they did with the MGS2 demo a few years back. I realize that the Zelda disk is going for about forty but that has all those Zelda games on it.

[jediwicz]

A suggestion: go to EB and Gamestop and remove the codes from displays that the employees already didn't swipe. Apologies to the employees of said stores but spread the wealth.

[PixyJunket]

Can we keep the begging out of this thread? I'd rather this be kept to actual discussion on the game or demo itself. Outlaw(?) started a thread specifically about the bonus disc, I think that'd be a better place to ask for codes if you need them.

[Get Me Coffee]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
Can we keep the begging out of this thread? I'd rather this be kept to actual discussion on the game or demo itself. Outlaw(?) started a thread specifically about the bonus disc, I think that'd be a better place to ask for codes if you need them.

You're right. Lets talk about how COOL Metroid would have been if Nintendo embraced online gaming. I could have wet metroid dreams playing this game online with 12 others! Morphing into balls to get away... sweetness. One thing I love about Metroid Prime was the level design! It was just beautiful! I loved how you can adventure off. Since I sold my GC right after completing Prime, I'm without a GC. However, with Nintendo's announcement of Prime 2 and Zelda I'm really on the fence with deciding to re-buy a GC. For $99 with a game it's hard NOT to pass on a GC just for 2 games. Hell I bought an XBOX for ONE game ;)

EGM had a nice write up on Prime 2.

[CreatureX]

Originally posted by CreatureX
Looks like I need one more registered game to qualify for this...

Well I went to rent movies at Blockbuster the other day and I checked out the GC section. One of the Pokemon Colosseum cases still had all the inserts including the PIN number in it. I asked one of the BB employees for a pen and wrote the PIN down. Now I have a Metroid 2 demo on the way as well! :)

[remjim]

I just thought that I would pass on the info that IGN Insider has the E3 demo up for viewing:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/536/536675p1.html

I don't have access to Insider, and even if I did I really want this game to be a surprise when I first pop it in to my Gamecube. November can't come soon enough!

Edit: Gamespot has it for free.

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/metroidprime2tentativetitle/media.html?gcst=mp2echoes_0806m8.asx

IGN has a really good photo of the contents of the Metroid Gamecube bundle as well as a pic from the history of Metroid. Unfortunately, I seem to be unable to post a link here.

[jediwicz]

I was at EB earlier today and they had the Metroid Prime 2 demo in the system. I'd have to say I was impressed. Both Light and Dark beams are interesting and the Samus character model looks uber-detailed (can't wait to see in prog. scan). The scan visor was very forgiving-it let you scan things not weren't exactly lined up-kinda cool. I didn't do everything in the demo and I stopped before it ended so I could fully experience it at home.

On a sidenote, EB also plopped in a demo with a playable Paper Mario 2. Hammer bashing a sea of koopa skeletons was great.

And Toys R Us had a playable Donkey Konga set up. The drums felt high-quality and not what I expected. Only a couple of songs were listed but I hung my head in shame and played Blink 182's "All the Small Things". If I looked like an idiot I'm covered in full sleeve tattoos-oooh scary- and no one said anything. Good day to hit the stores.

[Chopper]

Originally posted by jediwicz
A suggestion: go to EB and Gamestop and remove the codes from displays that the employees already didn't swipe. Apologies to the employees of said stores but spread the wealth.

And then when someone comes in there, buys the game & tries to register the code...?

[rawer]

I was at my local TRU last night and they had the new Metroid Gamecube bundle (with Demo Disc) in stock.

Now excuse me while I try and come up with a good reason why I need another 'Cube...

[Outlaw]

Originally posted by Chopper
And then when someone comes in there, buys the game & tries to register the code...?

We should tell that person to buy a new game that is actually new, and not one of EB's or Gamestop's "used games sold as new" games.

[PixyJunket]

Just got an email from Nintendo that my disc shipped today!

[CreatureX]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
Just got an email from Nintendo that my disc shipped today! I got the same email! :D

[Jeremy517]

Originally posted by CreatureX
I got the same email! :D

Why would you get an email saying that Pixy's disc shipped? :confused:

[Zodo]

I got my MP2: Echoes demo disc in yesterday. The demo is pretty short, but it gives you a good feel of how the 'light/dark' stuff is gonna work.

It seemed pretty fun, but kind of more of the same...not sure if I'll buy it right when it comes out or not.

[darkside]

I got a rather shocked reaction at Gamestop yesterday when I informed them I had no interest in Halo 2, Metroid Prime 2 or GTA San Andreas. I then put down my preorder for Donkey Konga and Paper Mario 2.

I believe she said "you are getting Donkey Konga instead of Prime 2" about 6 times while ringing it up.

Damn, aren't there enough people already getting Halo 2, Prime 2 and GTA? Do they really need me to order them too. Someones got to buy the damn bongo game.

Anyway the demo was decent and I was happy with a free disc from Nintendo, but I never finished the first Prime game so I see no reason to get this one either since its very similar. Give me 2D Metroid any day of the week, but I have no interest in Prime.

Finally saw the Prime bundle though and thats a nice looking package. Just wish Nintendo had done a special Metroid GameCube to go with it.

[PixyJunket]

Woo. Demo came in just now. Must play. Bye.

[tanman]

Yeah, just burned through the disc. Very cool. From the demo it seems to be a good mixture of old gameplay with new ideas.

I also liked the chronology and the concept art.

[jediwicz]

The playable aspect of the demo runs in progressive scan but the trailer/preview don't. I tried scanning EVERYTHING (I was unable to lock on to the Space Pirate's hover-thingie). Can't wait for the whole caboodle inc; space jump, multi-missile lock, morphball cannon and multi-player.

[PixyJunket]

Forgot to drop my thoughts over the weekend..

They should've called this "Metroid Prime 2: Cock Tease"

Shortest demo ever. :(

The Metroid timeline was a bit weak, but the track they had playing over Prime 2's spot was VERY cool (as was the new title screen music, and the updated Space Pirates theme from the demo). I'm already ready to drop the money down for the soundtrack.

[PixyJunket]

By the way, Nintendo has offically stated the November 15th release date.

That makes it.. 76 days away. :D

[wlj]

Man i need to go back and finish the first one. The game is friggin awesome...but i got about half way through it...and it got almost impossibly difficult. I got frustrated and gave up. I think it is time to fire it up again!!


wlj

[PixyJunket]

Bump!!

I can't wait to add to this pile (and I couldn't even find everything for the picture..)

http://pixyjunket.digitalcrap.net/pics/metroid_mania.jpg

[darqleo]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
Bump!!

I can't wait to add to this pile (and I couldn't even find everything for the picture..)

http://pixyjunket.digitalcrap.net/pics/metroid_mania.jpg

Probably a dumb question among video game geeks, but where did you get the statue? I likes.

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by darqleo
Probably a dumb question among video game geeks, but where did you get the statue? I likes. The bright plastic one was bought at a toy store for $10. The metallic looking one (which is actually a bobble-head.. er, more like a bobble-torso) was given to me by a friend, I'm not sure of its origin.

[GoVegan]

Are you still interested in the Gamecube box? I picked up the bundle a few weeks ago and it looks like it belongs more with your stuff.

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by GoVegan
Are you still interested in the Gamecube box? I picked up the bundle a few weeks ago and it looks like it belongs more with your stuff. That would be really cool, I'd love that. Just shoot me an email and we'll work out the details.

[darqleo]

Samus Aran from Metroid Prime kicking some Halo butt
http://media.anime-cons.com/photos/otakon2003/DSC00120.jpg

http://www.anime-cons.com/

[jeffdsmith]

http://metroid.com/800.jpg

[darqleo]

Yeah, baby!

[PixyJunket]

One week away. :eek:

[SpacemanSpiff]

too many games
ahhh

[jediwicz]

Possibly two Metroid games in one week, again. All depends on the DS launching early. Thanksgiving is going to be much more enjoyable now. Sorry Halo 2.

[jeffdsmith]

Originally posted by jediwicz
Possibly two Metroid games in one week, again. All depends on the DS launching early. Thanksgiving is going to be much more enjoyable now. Sorry Halo 2.

I don't think we'll be missed.

[jediwicz]

Don't get me wrong, I will pick up Halo 2 but right now my priority is the DS and Echoes. Halo 2 will have to wait, till probably Feb. due to playing catch up. I skipped Mario Tennis and will have to wait for Baten Kaitos, Mario Party 6 and then RE 4. I could've bought an un-opened collectors edition for $40 from a dude at work who sold his Xbox after he pre-bought the game. I have no doubts Halo 2 will outsell Echoes but not the First Hunt DS demo and Echoes will be a better game.

[Decker]

The Gamespot review (http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/metroidprime2/review.html?q=1&tag=gs_hp_flashtop_story) is up. They gave it a 9.1. Sounds good, maybe even great, but not enough to make anyone forget about Halo 2 or GTA : SA.

[blakwngbrd]

It's a lot of fun, I got a chance to play with it for a little while today (don't kill me please!) :) The controls are pretty much identical to the original. Graphics are beautiful, no surprise there. I could roll around in morph-ball mode for hours on end, just watching...spinny ball......

But anyway... if you liked the original, you'll love Echoes. 'Nuff said. :)

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by Decker
..but not enough to make anyone forget about Halo 2 or GTA : SA. I've already forgotten.

[Ghym]

Originally posted by Decker
The Gamespot review (http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/metroidprime2/review.html?q=1&tag=gs_hp_flashtop_story) is up. They gave it a 9.1. Sounds good, maybe even great, but not enough to make anyone forget about Halo 2 or GTA : SA.

9.1? Uh oh, there are going to be lots of kids' heads exploding on the IGN boards.

Anyway, I just finished Halo 2, so I'm ready for HL2 and MP2 next week. Echoes looks great!

Edit: Just watched the GS video review. This one seems pretty safe from spoilers if you've been reading about the game.(Unlike their spoileriffic Halo 2 video review) But, Brad Shoemaker does the worst video reviews. You can totally tell he's reading. He's just damn boring. They need to not let him do anymore.

[joeblow69]

So... are there any deals out there on Echoes? Or will we just have to pay the $50 (minus the $5 best buy coupon)?

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by joeblow69
So... are there any deals out there on Echoes? Or will we just have to pay the $50 (minus the $5 best buy coupon)? Best bet is to wait until Fry's ads for next week. They usually won't have the game until Thursday, but if they do another Paper Mario or Tales of Symphonia ($38.99) it's worth a day wait.. at least for me.. I'm stuck at work during the week.

[fab]

9.1 is still a great score and they say it's as good as Metroid Prime so obviously it's a great game. It's almost as if they knocked off a few points for the so-so multiplayer.

--
fab

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by fab
9.1 is still a great score and they say it's as good as Metroid Prime so obviously it's a great game. It's almost as if they knocked off a few points for the so-so multiplayer.Possibly docked points for being more of an evolution of Prime 1 rather than revolution? I could see that, the demo sure does make it appear to be a "more-of-the-same" game. I still think multi-player should've just been left out.. leave that for the real FPS games.

[BigDave]

I'll be picking this up after I'm done with Paper Mario and Halo 2. There are just so many good games out right now, but not enough time to play them.

[jediwicz]

I just got done messing around with the new Metroid.com. I only went three levels (23%) in but it was a cool website. Must experience.

[jeffdsmith]

9.5 From IGN.

[slop101]

I'm really scared of this game - I loved the last one, except that it was too hard and frustrating for me to finish. (I never ever had a problem with the 2-D ones)

Now I read that this one's even harder.

Why don't they just have adjustable difficulty levels? - that way, everyone's happy.

[Outlaw]

I can't wait for this game to come out. The art is phenomenal. And the fact that is more difficult is a plus, that was one thing I was hopingi they'd do since i thought the first was a little easy except a few parts. pansy gamers can go weep in their corner (not you slop101 :)).

scores have been superb, I watched some movies and it got me even more pumped up, now if next week would hurry up and get here!!

[PixyJunket]

*hyperventilates*

[joeblow69]

I'm super stoked... I'm getting my brand new 56inch widescreen HDTV on Friday, and a pair of Nintendo component cables are also on the way. I'm finally going to be able to experience Metroid in all it's Progressive Scan, Dolby Pro Logic II glory! :)

[PixyJunket]

Oh.. that hurt. Rub it in, rub it in. :(

[Josh H]

9, 9, 10 in EGM.

[Chris_D]

Originally posted by fab
9.1 is still a great score and they say it's as good as Metroid Prime so obviously it's a great game. It's almost as if they knocked off a few points for the so-so multiplayer.

--
fab

They pretty much said in the review that the "dud" multiplayer component did not effect the review score. Something along the lines of "the single player game is fantastic and no one's forcing you to play the multiplayer".

[tanman]

I'm excited but also waiting. Funds are more tight especially with DDD %20 off sale. ;) The last prime was available for $30 only a couple months after release so I think I will wait till then.

In the mean time I will play through Zero mission for the umptenth time. I can beat it in 1:02 right now.

[Josh H]

Originally posted by Chris_D
They pretty much said in the review that the "dud" multiplayer component did not effect the review score. Something along the lines of "the single player game is fantastic and no one's forcing you to play the multiplayer".

Kind of like the opposite of Halo 2. :D

[nickdawgy]

Once again, I will say that I still haven't finished the first one.

[Outlaw]

Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
Kind of like the opposite of Halo 2. :D

lol, thats exactly the thought I had.

[jeffdsmith]

According to IGN, this is the girl in the new Metroid ad:
http://i.cnn.net/si/pr/subs/swimsuit/images/04_mkeller_02.jpg

Thought I'd spice up this post while we wait for the game to arrive...

[SpacemanSpiff]

whens the game avaliable in stores?

tommorow?

[jediwicz]

Already picked up my copy at EB. Going to play now.

[PixyJunket]

Shit. :(

[Ghym]

I went in to EB today to pickup my HL2 CE. While I was there I asked when I could get my Metroid Prime 2 pre-order. The clerk said he had copies but wasn't allowed to sell them yet. About an hour later at home he calls me and tells me I can come pick it up. Go figure. So, I went and picked it up along with the t-shirt I got for pre-ordering. I haven't had a chance to play it yet as I'm still playing HL2 at the moment. I'll probably pop it in sometime tonight and at least take a look at it. These last two weeks have been great. Halo 2 and now HL2 and Metroid 2.

[msdmoney]

My reserved copy won't come in til Friday in typical gamerush style. Oh well can't complain, after how cheap it was. I will be playing it this weekend.

[nickdawgy]

:lol:

I was just at Best Buy getting Half-Life 2, and I totally forgot this came out. Shows where my brain is.....

[PixyJunket]

Went at picked it up.. played about 3-4 hours I guess.. time to sleep. :(

[Liver&Onions]

But how is it man!?

[jediwicz]

I've put a few hours into it now and it really is too early for a "review". From what I've played I'm impressed. I played the demo version and the retail build is completely different. Some areas looked familiar from the demo but when I walked through a door expecting one thing I got another. Nice. Keep me on my toes. The game looks awesome and runs smooth on my 46 widescreen in progressive scan and I've only seen one area. Can't wait for the Sanctuary or the Bog. I don't want to spoil the first few hours so I'll post more later. Need to try multiplayer too. Don't look at the instruction book if your'e curious about future upgrades-spoilers!!!

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by Liver&Onions
But how is it man!? Too early to say.. but one thing stood out for me. The original Metroid Prime has what I think it probably the single greatest opening/intro level of all time. Seriously.. that 15 minute sequence prompted me to go out at two in the morning to get a Gamecube, Metroid and a memory card on an impulse buy. Prime 2 starts off as if Prime 1 started when you land on Talon IV.

One of my favorite aspects of Prime 1 returns which was the item ambience. I was freaking my friend out last night because I would enter a room and go "Oh, there's an item in here..!" and he's wondering how I know there's an item without seeing it.

I might have to start packing and moving tonight and through the weekend.. my choices are: play next week, don't sleep or move next week. It's so dead where I work right now, so I have a feeling what option I may go with.

[PixyJunket]

$39.99 at Fry's. Heh, I knew my patience wouldn't hold for this one. -biggrin-

[eatntae]

I went to Best Buy today on my school break to kill some time, and I saw the Nintendo DS display unit. Metroid demo got me hyped up, so I decided to pick up Echoes. As much as I wanted to play the game, I really wanted to hold out and save my money for the DS this Sunday. But seeing the nice shiny cover art, I couldn't resist. I played it for a couple hours, and I'm having a blast. Sure, its pretty much like the first Prime, just with a different story, but I loved the first Prime, so that's no problem at all. I haven't faced too many enemies yet, just the simple little creatures. It hasn't gotten too difficult yet either, except for the last couple guys I fought. Just in case...those first 2 Dark Pirates you face were tough! I currently have 1 extra energy tank, so 198 HP of energy, and they brought me all the way down to 27!
Anyway, I didn't want to stop playing, but I've gotta get some sleep for school tomorrow.

[jdpatri]

That cover art sure is pretty. Even if I didn't know what the game was, I think I'd still buy it.

Ooooooh sparkly luminescense....

[slop101]

this game is really good, but it's just too hard...

I see myself giving up on it way before ever finishing it.

[Josh H]

Yeah, I had the same concern after reading the EGM review, as I thought the first game was just about right difficulty wise.

But I'll still get it as Metroid is my favorite series. I'll probably just put it on my x-mas list as I don't have time to play it right now anyway.

[joeblow69]

Originally posted by jediwicz
The game looks awesome and runs smooth on my 46 widescreen in progressive scan and I've only seen one area.
So how are you running this on your widescreen TV? I read there wasn't a widescreen mode. Are you just stretching the image to fit?

[jediwicz]

Progressive scan doesn't auto change to widescreen (by holding B at startup). You have to widen your HUD display. I actually didn't change my HUD and the game still looks rad. I don't notice any stretching or flaws at all.

[PixyJunket]

*breathes fire on progressive scan people*

[joeblow69]

Originally posted by jediwicz
Progressive scan doesn't auto change to widescreen (by holding B at startup). You have to widen your HUD display. I actually didn't change my HUD and the game still looks rad. I don't notice any stretching or flaws at all.
So I'm confused.. you are viewing it widescreen or not? How do you widen the HUD display? Is that just a function of your TV?

(I'm getting my widescreen on saturday, so I'm wondering how this is going to work)

[jediwicz]

As long as you have component cables, you hold down B at the start-up. It asks if you want prog. scan and then voila. Some games stretch to widescreen automatically. Others you need to change the setting in-game although it will still be displayed in prog. scan (ie; F-zero, Soul Calibur). In-game MP: E let's you widen Samus' HUD display-it still is displayed in widescreen (no black bars) but your peripheral vision range appears wider the wider the HUD is. I said before, I actually forgot to widen my HUD and the game still looked top-notch. Congrats on your purchase, I waited to finish the first Prime until I got my HDTV and component cables from Nintendo so I could at least finish it in all it's glory. Be sure you've got Wavebirds and enjoy. Hope that helped.

BTW RE4 is supposed to run automatically in widescreen regardless of TV so on an HD wide w/prog. scan we'll be in gaming heaven.

[SpacemanSpiff]

how long was it before metroid prime 1 was on players choice?

[FatTony]

Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff
how long was it before metroid prime 1 was on players choice?
I think that usually depends on how many copies it sells. I don't know what the exact number is though.

[SpacemanSpiff]

hmm
i have the games sitting right in front of me...i dunno if i should return it since i have tons of other games to play

[joeblow69]

Originally posted by joeblow69
So I'm confused.. you are viewing it widescreen or not? How do you widen the HUD display? Is that just a function of your TV?

(I'm getting my widescreen on saturday, so I'm wondering how this is going to work)
Ok, got my widescreen, hooked everything up, and for the most part, it looks great. I do, however, notice quite a bit of jaggieness. Is that normal? I wonder if I don't have something set right. I know my TV upconverts everything to 1080i... I wonder if that is the problem?

[PixyJunket]

Just finished the first area.. game is starting to pick up. Must eat though. Thankfully I managed to get all moved into my new apartment so this coming extended weekend will be my chance to put some REAL time into Prime 2.

[PixyJunket]

Nice Maridia remix in the swamp area.

[eatntae]

I don't think the game is that much harder than Metroid Prime 1, it just takes awhile to figure out the strategy to kill some of the bosses/mini bosses. I've finished the first 2 areas, and I'm working on the 3rd right now. Between this and my DS, I didn't get any of my homework done this weekend. I didn't want to put either of them down.

[msdmoney]

I am a few hours in (maybe a couple for most people) at 11%, and it's great so far. I had forgotten about the graphics in Metroid Prime, the graphics in MP 2 are amazing.

Just got my space jump boots. Hasn't been too difficult so far, most fights have been easy especially the jump boots guardian, the fact that your health replenishes in the light made this battle pretty easy Some of the exploration parts have gotten to me though, I spent forever trying to find out how to get to Dark Aether. Never saw that morph ball elevator in the portal room. Will have little time to play it this week and going to have to put this on hold during the Thanksgiving holiday since I will be out of town.

[PixyJunket]

I love the little bits you get by scanning things. Like the contained Metroids that are pissed because they were fed pet treats and the space pirates attempts to domesticate Metroids. Almost as funny as the bit about them trying to replicate Samus' morph ball from Prime 1.

[joeblow69]

Can someone give a little bit of a spoiler for me? I'm not very far into it yet (just got the jump boots), but am troubled by something. Normally in metroid, you get your powerups by finding hidden chozo statues. Obviously, that wouldn't make sense on this planet, so they just give you an item after fighting a boss. The thing that bothers me, is the boss fights aren't really hidden, you just run into them, fight them, then get the item. Is this how the whole game is? Are the only hidden things now missles/health containers/etc... ??

[jeffdsmith]

Originally posted by joeblow69
Can someone give a little bit of a spoiler for me? I'm not very far into it yet (just got the jump boots), but am troubled by something. Normally in metroid, you get your powerups by finding hidden chozo statues. Obviously, that wouldn't make sense on this planet, so they just give you an item after fighting a boss. The thing that bothers me, is the boss fights aren't really hidden, you just run into them, fight them, then get the item. Is this how the whole game is? Are the only hidden things now missles/health containers/etc... ??

There is plenty of things besides missles hidden. More so then Prime IMO. You will use you new abilities to find more in previously entered areas. as well as new.

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by joeblow69
Normally in metroid, you get your powerups by finding hidden chozo statues.This is only true of Metroid and Metroid II. In Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime and Metroid Zero Mission all major upgrades are essentially found in a linear fashion and most of the time protected by a not-so-hidden boss. Super Metroid and Zero Mission both have a degree of freedom to this, but typically never discovered through the initial play-through.

[joeblow69]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
This is only true of Metroid and Metroid II. In Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime and Metroid Zero Mission all major upgrades are essentially found in a linear fashion and most of the time protected by a not-so-hidden boss. Super Metroid and Zero Mission both have a degree of freedom to this, but typically never discovered through the initial play-through.
I guess you're right, for some reason, it just seems a little more linear to me this time. Maybe it's just due to the last one I played was Zero Mission.

Anyway, am I the only one seeing all the jaggies? Is the progressive scan exposing jaggies you normally wouldn't see?

[PixyJunket]

Originally posted by joeblow69
I guess you're right, for some reason, it just seems a little more linear to me this time. Maybe it's just due to the last one I played was Zero Mission.Prime and so far Prime 2 are VERY linear. If you've just played Zero Mission that will be insanely obviously as there is ALWAYS two ways around everything in Zero Mission and very few items are actually required to finish it.

[msdmoney]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
Prime and so far Prime 2 are VERY linear. If you've just played Zero Mission that will be insanely obviously as there is ALWAYS two ways around everything in Zero Mission and very few items are actually required to finish it.

Hmm, I guess it has a linear design (get item, find where to use item to advance), and you must do these in order, but the fact that you must explore to find your next path makes it non-linear?

[PixyJunket]

The bosses in this game are BRUTAL.

I have nightmares thinking about playing this on HARD MODE.

Just got the Grapple Beam.

[PixyJunket]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention.. but as I was playing last night my roommate all of a sudden remembered that someone he knows got a job at Retro Studios a couple of years ago. Sure enough, we open the book and his name is there.

[Liver&Onions]

Just got the bomb...then I fought the two dark space pirates, and they kicked my ass...sadly, me previous save was before fighting the bomb guardian. damn. Good thing I love this game.

[Ghym]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention.. but as I was playing last night my roommate all of a sudden remembered that someone he knows got a job at Retro Studios a couple of years ago. Sure enough, we open the book and his name is there.

Are they still in Austin? I remember their office used to be in the business center I work in. I passed it everyday on the way to work. That was a few years ago.

[eatntae]

Just beat the boss of the third temple last night. It's not that he's really that tough, but trying to figure out exactly what to do to beat him... ugh! What made it bearable was the fact that he kept leaving behind the ultra power ups (+100 health) whenever you damaged him. He wasn't as bad as the boss of the second temple though. By the time I figured out how to defeat him, my energy was pretty low. I had to kill so much time just avoiding attacks and sitting in the "light" bubble to recharge my energy. I mean, it only made sense that you have to target the red circles on his wings, but how was I supposed to know that you need to aim from behind? Anyway, it seems like I'm not too far from the end now. Too bad some of the best weapons/upgrades don't show up until close to the end.

[eatntae]

Content-wise, I'm probably close to the end, but time-wise I guess I've still got a little while to go. I'm collecting keys to gain access to [what I believe is] the final area, much like collecting the Artifacts from Metroid Prime 1. Some of the clues to find the keys are pretty vague, and its taking me awhile to find them all.

Oh yeah, I don't really like the logbook/inventory system. It seems a little tedious to navigate.

[gr8fuldave]

I've got a question folks. If I enjoyed Halo 2, would I enjoy Metroid? I don't have a gamecube (I picked one up for my niece for Christmas but would consider picking one up for myself ) Thanks for any replies, and this is a thread-detractor, I apologize

[eatntae]

Originally posted by gr8fuldave
I've got a question folks. If I enjoyed Halo 2, would I enjoy Metroid? I don't have a gamecube (I picked one up for my niece for Christmas but would consider picking one up for myself ) Thanks for any replies, and this is a thread-detractor, I apologize
Not necessarily. Halo is a FPS whereas Metroid is more of an adventure game. Although it is in the first person perspective, it does not play like a typical shooter. It involves a lot of exploring and backtracking. For what it's worth, my friends that have and love Halo have a lot of trouble with the Metroid control scheme. They're really too different to compare.

[tanman]

I've been trying to avoid this thread due to spoilers but just wanted to vent. Due to the holidays and lack of time I decided to actually wait for a good deal on this game. Well I was about to take advantage of EB's trade in five get a free game deal. Well I get there all excited and walk in with 6 games (just in case they don't accept one), and all of them were excluded. None of them were sports games. Argghh... When did they get so strict on the trading in. I remember being able to trade in almost any non-sports game. They showed me a list of the excluded games on which none of my games were listed. But the computer did exclude them and the list was dated back in september. Oh well, I guess it is my own fault for getting my hopes up.

Anyways, sorry to high jack the thread. Go back to playing Metroid you lucky bastards. :(

[DonkeyKong]

Target has Metroid Prime 2 for $37.88 for the week of 11/28 - 12/4

[Get Me Coffee]

So how does MP2 look without progressive scan on a Wide HD TV? I want to get a GC....but I've heard that the new GC come without the digital output...got to love Nintendo!

[joeblow69]

Originally posted by Get Me Coffee
So how does MP2 look without progressive scan on a Wide HD TV? I want to get a GC....but I've heard that the new GC come without the digital output...got to love Nintendo!
Well, I played the original on a regular big screen TV (no progressive in) and am playing Echoes on my Widescreen w/progressive scan, and honestly, it doesn't look all that different to me. And while there is an option to widen the display in Echoes, I still end up having to stretch the screen somewhat, so I end up with some oblong circles.

[dgmayor]

If you want to play it in widescreen, i'd suggest going to the screen setting and squish it down as much as possible before switching your TV into widescreen mode. I keep reading people talking about stretching their HUD but this has the opposite effect you'd want I would think. You're stretching the picture twice in effect, no? If you squish the picture (slider bar down to 0) then switch to widescreen, it will pull the picture back out to fill the TV with minimal distortion.

[PixyJunket]

I finally got some *real* time to play over the long weekend. I really love this game. I got lost twice and spent a LOT of time scouring previous areas. First time I was convinced I needed Power Bombs and simply missed a slightly harder than usual to notice half-pipe. Second time, I was convinced what I needed would be in the area I was in due to last 3 hour fiasco and this time it really was in a previous area. My clear time is bound to be 5 or 6 hours over the normal first-time clear due to this. But I think I'm far enough in that chances of getting lost again are minimal.

Just got the screw-attack! The instructions on its use threw me off and it took me a few minutes to figure out how to REALLY use it. The second encouter with Dark Samus was freakin' cool, but much to my disapointment, a bit easier than the other bosses so far. The next two times she better kill me at least once!

[Apocrypha]

Side note
MP:Echoes is 37.88 at Target this week. Haven't decided whether or not to pick this up as I am still working on PRIME.

[msdmoney]

Originally posted by PixyJunket
I finally got some *real* time to play over the long weekend. I really love this game. I got lost twice and spent a LOT of time scouring previous areas. First time I was convinced I needed Power Bombs and simply missed a slightly harder than usual to notice half-pipe. Second time, I was convinced what I needed would be in the area I was in due to last 3 hour fiasco and this time it really was in a previous area. My clear time is bound to be 5 or 6 hours over the normal first-time clear due to this. But I think I'm far enough in that chances of getting lost again are minimal.

I think my final time will be much higher than average as well. At 20% I have about 5 1/2 hours. Of course this counts the time I sit in the light in dark world recovering energy. Sometimes I will surf the web while I recover and leave the game going. Just beat the first boss Amorbis, was pretty easy, I beat him on the second try. Really enjoying the exploration, and have been taking my time going back through each area as I get a new ability.

[joeblow69]

Originally posted by dgmayor
If you want to play it in widescreen, i'd suggest going to the screen setting and squish it down as much as possible before switching your TV into widescreen mode. I keep reading people talking about stretching their HUD but this has the opposite effect you'd want I would think. You're stretching the picture twice in effect, no? If you squish the picture (slider bar down to 0) then switch to widescreen, it will pull the picture back out to fill the TV with minimal distortion.
What "screen setting" are you talking about to squish the screen down? The only option I can find is for screen stretch, which seems to stretch the HUD.

[PixyJunket]

I WANT METROID PRIME 3!!! :( Please?

[jeffdsmith]

I WANT METROID PRIME 3!!! :( Please?

Where did this come from?

Anyway, perhaps a launch title for the Revolution, although I would think a launch Zelda would be more powerful, yet unlikely.

[darqleo]

I must be the world's most patient Metroid fan. I get my MP2 for X-mas via my brother. I guess the FREE compared to the $40-$50 is what keeps me going.
:D

[Josh H]

Same here. My MP2 is under the x-mas tree. :D Free, and it gives me time to finish Mario and Luigi.

[PixyJunket]

I think Metroid Prime 2 is definitely a larger/longer game than the first overall. My second play of Metroid Prime I blazed through it in about 7-8 hours game time with 100% items (and scans?). I'm on my second run of Prime 2 and my clock reads 9 hours and I still have the third world boss to defeat and then the joy of finding those last few missile expansions I'm missing.

[Josh H]

Yeah, in the new EGM the developers said the purposely designed it to make it longer and not make it possible to skip areas and what not. They didn't like that the challenge of the first game came in trying to get through it as fast as possible with as low a percentage as possible.

They wanted finishing with 100% to be the main goal for gamers.

[PixyJunket]

Yeah, in the new EGM the developers said the purposely designed it to make it longer and not make it possible to skip areas and what not. They didn't like that the challenge of the first game came in trying to get through it as fast as possible with as low a percentage as possible.

They wanted finishing with 100% to be the main goal for gamers.I don't think that necessarily had a whole lot to do with it. My second run of the original Prime did not use any of the item or area skips. I think the point of the interview is that they purposely designed it so that it was less likely to be taken apart by taking advantage of any glitches that may be found. Unlike previous Metroid games, almost all of the "sequence breaking" in Metroid Prime is only accomplished by exposing glitches in the game system. As such, I've never been interested in it and just accepted that Prime was a fairly linear game.

While Prime 2 certainly follows the same linearity, it does put a much heavier emphasis on exploration and thinking. Each area requires you to find 3 keys to reach the boss, and usually there are multiple exploratory items acquired, some requiring you to go to the previous worlds to get the next item to open up a path in the current one. There was a degree of this in the first game, but it's much better integrated and much more apparent this time around. There's also more puzzle elements and MANY more bosses to fight. These are the element I personally feel attribute to Prime 2 being a larger game, and not Retro's tightening of the game's sequence.

[Josh H]

Finally started on this last night. Put in about an hour and a half. Beat the first boss, and went a little further.

I'm loving it so far. Very atmopsheric and immersing just like the first one, with slightly better graphics and more interesting environments. Lots of neat story bits you can get by scanning things (seem more interesting that the stuff in the first one). I like that there's a few cutscenes here and there as well.

Can't wait to delve deeper into it. No time to play tonight tough. :(

[sdcrym]

My girlfriend got me this game for Christmas. After some frustration with parts, like getting killed by some random enemy a few rooms from where I just beat a boss, I made it off of Aether.

I think my final tally was 27:54 with 99% completion :(

Not sure where that last 1% is. I can't imagine what items could be left. After scanning all the enemies after the last save point, the only thing missing in my logbook was some Luminoth Lore :(

Excellent game though. Now I have to decide if I want to start on Hard Mode just yet. :)

[Puzznic]

I don't want it spoiled but how much better is the 90%+ ending then the regular ending? Im almost to 90% now. The regular ending was pretty short but it was funny.

[PixyJunket]

I need to pull myself off of Maple Story at some point this weekend and hunt down the rest of the items on my second run. I think I'm at 90% and just got the Light Suit, it's time to turn the music down and listen for those last 10 items.

[sdcrym]

I don't want it spoiled but how much better is the 90%+ ending then the regular ending? Im almost to 90% now. The regular ending was pretty short but it was funny.
That was the first time I beat it, so I don't know what the ending you got was like to compare.

[eatntae]

Puzznic,

According to one of the FAQs at GameFAQs, there are 3 endings. <75%, 75-99%, and 100%. So it sounds like you don't really have incentive to go for just 90%.

[darqleo]

Finally started playing this the past few days. This game sometimes drives me nuts trying to find items and where to go next, but I love every minute of it! And I also love investigating the enviroment and past history by scanning stuff, it's a great storytelling device.

[PixyJunket]

I got my 2 DVD Metroid in Motion fan set last night. :)

[joeblow69]

Help! I can't do the bomb jump thing! You know, that thing where you're supposed to stay in one spot, and just lay bombs at the right time to get to higher places...

I could do it in the original metroid, and super metroid, but I was never able to get it in the first Prime (and missed out on all sorts of stash), and now it looks like I'm starting to miss out on cool stuff again in Prime2, all because I can't do this stupid maneuver!

Can someone give me some pointers?

[darqleo]

Help! I can't do the bomb jump thing! You know, that thing where you're supposed to stay in one spot, and just lay bombs at the right time to get to higher places...

I could do it in the original metroid, and super metroid, but I was never able to get it in the first Prime (and missed out on all sorts of stash), and now it looks like I'm starting to miss out on cool stuff again in Prime2, all because I can't do this stupid maneuver!

Can someone give me some pointers?

It's hard to help you over the internet as it's a certain rhythm to pushing the bomb button. Count 1-2-3-4 in your head or outloud.... on the 1st count, push the button, and on the 3rd count, you push it twice really fast. If you do it right, you should see a bomb planted in the air while a bomb is exploding underneath you. The bomb in the air explodes as you are in the air, pushing you up even higher. Maybe somebody else can explain it better. The rhythm has been ingrained in me since the days of the first Metroid. I remember trying to do it for the first time and it taking forever to master.
:)

[sdcrym]

Lay the first bomb, then right before the bomb detonates, lay the second and third bombs. The second should be on the ground, and the third at the apex of your first jump.

[vd0man]

Help! I can't do the bomb jump thing! You know, that thing where you're supposed to stay in one spot, and just lay bombs at the right time to get to higher places...

I could do it in the original metroid, and super metroid, but I was never able to get it in the first Prime (and missed out on all sorts of stash), and now it looks like I'm starting to miss out on cool stuff again in Prime2, all because I can't do this stupid maneuver!

Can someone give me some pointers?

1. Drop a bomb.
2. Wait and just before the bomb explodes, drop another bomb.
3. The first bomb will explode and you'll jump upwards. At the very top of your jump, drop a third bomb.

Watch this video over and over until you've got the timing memorized:
Bomb Jumping (from IGN's Metroid Prime guide) (http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/15316/images/metroidguide_doublejump1.mov)

[Outlaw]

I got my 2 DVD Metroid in Motion fan set last night. :)


wait...what's this?

[Get Me Coffee]

Just finished the game at 98% DUH!!! I'll have to go back....Is it 100% items or 100% scans or both to get the 100% ending?

[PixyJunket]

Just finished the game at 98% DUH!!! I'll have to go back....Is it 100% items or 100% scans or both to get the 100% ending?100% items, but 100% scans opens a new gallery I think.

[PixyJunket]

wait...what's this?A 2 DVD set featuring speed runs from every Metroid game, every commercial ever (US and Japan) for the series, trailers, secret world and glitch videos.. lots and lots of random stuff.

[darqleo]

I can't believe how tough some of the boss battles are. Even if you know how to kill them, it still takes a long time, like 15-20 minutes. My fingers were killing me last night after the Dark <forgot the name> Bog Temple battle.

[tanman]

I finally dare to peak my head in here since I am at the final boss. With no real spoilers left. It is a tough one at that. I only died once at the Emperor Ing but have not beaten the stupid Dark Samus. Here phazon energy missle is a killer and trying to dodge that and collect the phazon energy is pretty tough. I'll try again later.

Where did you get the DVD pixy?

[sdcrym]

tanman, a message concerning the final boss (you may already know):
If you beat the Emperor Ing, but die fighting Dark Samus, DON'T GIVE UP. If you choose Yes when asked whether to continue from the last save, it'll continue starting at the cutscene after you beat the Emperor Ing. Dark Samus is pretty easy, once you figure out the trick.

[tanman]

What the heck? I tried saying yes just to make sure that they didn't do just that and really thought that it started at the last save, before the final boss. Hmm....Oh well, I'm pretty good at beating him now and I did figure out the "trick" just keep sidesteping until the phazon shield expands and that is when she is going to release the one you can suck up. I like that we can finally see her out of her suit but was slightly disappointed at the model. It didn't really impress me. Anyone else feel the same way?

[BigDave]

I just started playing this over the weekend. I don't remember the first one being as hard. The game is great, but I was getting kind of pissed on the first boss. Luckily it only took me a few tries. It could also be that I'm getting used to the controls again.

[joeblow69]

I'm rather annoyed with the difficulty as well. I'm at the speed boost boss right now, and while I've only tried to kill him a couple times, I really don't feel the urge to keep trying. It'd be a shame if this is the first metroid I don't play all the way through, but for some reason, this one just isn't hooking me like the others have.

BTW, am I the only one who finds some of these worlds too cluttered? There are a ton of rooms where there is so much crap (like weeds or whatever) going all over the place that I have to constantly check the map to get the layout of the room.

[fab]

I'm about 5.5 hours in and up until this point I found the game to be just about the right difficulty, if even a bit easy. The save points are pretty much perfectly spread out. I got totally creamed by the Boost Guardian though last night and barely got a 1/4 of it's life down. It was only my first try and it was pretty late so I didn't try again but I think that's going to be a tough battle; fortunatley there's a save station in the next room.

--
fab

[tanman]

Yes the boost ball Guardian is one of the toughest. The thing that is great about the boss battles is that you really do get better each time you fight them. It isn't an unfair fight, you just have to figure out what the best way is to deafeat them.

The boost ball guardian I died on several times as well as the last boss. The only other boss that killed me was the Chykka. Then again I didn't have that much trouble on Metroid Fusion either.

The one aspect that I think is "cheap" of them is the stupid scan logs. I hate that they throw in one stupid enemy that only appears at a certain time and only if you turn around and scan it. It threw me off on the first Prime when I thought I scanned everything and was off by quite a bit. But this one I was determined to scan every little thing but missed one little thing. That ticks me off.

[msdmoney]

I remember a few bosses in the game seeming impossible the first time I played them, but I got better each fight and beat them. I thought the difficulty was pretty good, challenging but fair.

[dom56]

Arrghh!!! I'm about to break my controller in this game. :mad:

Can anyone tell me how to beat the second temple boss.
I can't do any damage at all on adult Chykka. I read the gamefaqs and it said you must stunned it and grapple across one of the platform and destroyed all four wings on it back. However the control pretty much suck. When I stunned it I can't get the grapple beam to work right and when I do get behind Chykka I can't get a locked on one of the wing I even tried using the R button control with no success and to make it worse it does'nt stay stunned for that long leaving me frustrated. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

[eatntae]

Arrghh!!! I'm about to break my controller in this game. :mad:

Can anyone tell me how to beat the second temple boss.
I can't do any damage at all on adult Chykka. I read the gamefaqs and it said you must stunned it and grapple across one of the platform and destroyed all four wings on it back. However the control pretty much suck. When I stunned it I can't get the grapple beam to work right and when I do get behind Chykka I can't get a locked on one of the wing I even tried using the R button control with no success and to make it worse it does'nt stay stunned for that long leaving me frustrated. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
I didn't have much of a problem getting behind him. First of all, just to clarify, when he's stunned, there are flashing red circles on the back of each of his 4 wings. So after I stunned him, I space jumped towards the adjacent platform, and when I was in range for the grapple beam, I used it. When you are behind him, you can either lock on and super missle one of the flashing red circles, or just use your seeker missles. I'm not sure why you're have a hard time locking on to his wings. Unless he's not really stunned when you try, the lock on should be pretty easy. Hope this helps.

[msdmoney]

Arrghh!!! I'm about to break my controller in this game. :mad:

Can anyone tell me how to beat the second temple boss.
I can't do any damage at all on adult Chykka. I read the gamefaqs and it said you must stunned it and grapple across one of the platform and destroyed all four wings on it back. However the control pretty much suck. When I stunned it I can't get the grapple beam to work right and when I do get behind Chykka I can't get a locked on one of the wing I even tried using the R button control with no success and to make it worse it does'nt stay stunned for that long leaving me frustrated. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

You might not be on the right platform. When he gets stunned his back is facing a certain platform, if you aren't on that platform you won't be able to target the red circles on his wings.

[fab]

I'm about 5.5 hours in and up until this point I found the game to be just about the right difficulty, if even a bit easy. The save points are pretty much perfectly spread out. I got totally creamed by the Boost Guardian though last night and barely got a 1/4 of it's life down. It was only my first try and it was pretty late so I didn't try again but I think that's going to be a tough battle; fortunatley there's a save station in the next room.


I beat him tonight on my third try with about half of my health in tact no less. Wasn't as hard as it seemed at first. I kept thinking I had to wait for that cut scene where he turns back into the beast form before attacking when there were plenty of opportunities to attack him in beast form when there wasn't a cut scene. I took him out with about 3-4 super missles and a few charged light cannon blasts. There was still even one of the four columns left standing when the battle was over.

I am definitely enjoying this game a lot but I liked the first one better. I don't really care much for the Dark side of Metroid Prime 2.

--
fab

[Josh H]

Damn, very early on and I already wasted an hour and a half being stuck :lol:

I missed the pillar you had to shoot with missles to knock down and make a bridge to get to the door to the bomb guardian. Was back tracking and looking all over but needed bombs or a translator to get any further. :D

[dom56]

Finally beat the second temple boss. :)

I found out that I was going on the wrong platform when trying to shoot out the wing on the back. What annoying is that it take too long in fighting this boss, I think it took me about half-hour and you have to fight it in three forms, on top of that you must scan each forms if you want to get a good ending and scanning take too long without getting hurt. You should'nt have to fight a boss this long when it is'nt even a end boss. End rant.

[jiggawhat]

The boost guardian seems to be the toughest of the bosses in my opinion.

[Josh H]

I'm digging the game the more I play it. I got the space jump tonight, and played a while longer. Believe I'm at the save room before getting the dark beam from what I read in scans.

I'm not a huge fan of the dark world. I love the two world idea, but taking damage from the air and having to stand around in the light to heal gets old and really slows down the pace of the game.

[Get Me Coffee]

Just finished MP2 with 97% ugh.....

Regarding the ending:

Kinda lame ending....Fighting the dark Samus got boring fast, considering that you've fought her 4 other times...the first few times was cool, but now it was like ALRIGHT DIE for REAL! The ending-ending was alright, nothing special...rather weak, compared to MP. Seeing Aran with here armor off was cool I guess, it's a nice continuum starting from the NES days. Overall the game was pretty decent fun. Well worth me buying a GC for. Now my GC will sleep until Zelda comes out :drool: Can't wait!


Moving forward I would love to see Metroid move in a different direction. Hear me out...

It's getting old with her ship crashing on a planet and bla bla bla....What I would love to see is a SPACE ADVENTURE! Meaning, she'll track down baddies Ala Bounty Hunter style. She'll travel to different worlds to pick up items, clues and fight baddies. I think it would be very cool seeing Samus in this light. It still will be a FPA game, but with a different twist in story and adventure.

[darqleo]

I'm right at the last boss. Still missing 1 energy tank and 1-2 missile packs. For some reason I only have 76% scans, I don't know how that could be, I've scanned everything I've seen except for a few of the bosses at the beginning.
I figured I was at least at 90%.

Anyway, when I get back to it, I'll go and hunt for those few missing items. I hope the last boss isn't too tough as I'll chicken out. The game's finished as far as I'm concerned and I've got other stuff to do with my time.
:)

[Outlaw]

Just beat the game last weekend, 93%. It was an awesome game, loved the screw attack. One of the things I loved is that the metroid prime series has really set a new standard for epic boss battles that change and evolve over the course of battle as you pound your enemy and they are forced to come up with new ways to combat you, and likewise causing you to change your own strategy and come up with new ways to beat them. Not to mention this game has some pretty touch boss fights, but overall it was just the right difficulty.

[jediwicz]

EBgames has a listing for Metroid Pinball DS on their site. Rad.

[dogmatica]

Anybody finding the new color-coated scan system difficult to get used to? I guess I'm not sure what was so inefficient with the last sytem or what is so much more efficient with this new system. I find it just plain difficult to tell what I'm looking at.

I've also noticed more in Echoes than Prime that after scanning an enemy, it seems to take a little longer to get out of my scan visor mode and start shooting at it before it shoots me. :(

[dom56]

Yay!!! Finally beat this game tonite. :)

Got all 100% scan. Total time was 23:51

Thought on the game, pretty good sequeal not as tough as the first one. Emperor Ing was a annoying boss to beat cause you have to fight him in three form but he wasn't hard as the last boss in the first Metroid Prime. After beating Dark Samus the final time I was disappointed with the ending I thought it was pretty lame after all that scanning. All you get to see is Samus without her armour. Despite that I still enjoyed playing this game and highly recommend this for anyone getting the Gamecube. :)

[Josh H]

Beat the boost guardian today, major pain in the ass. Glad to see some here said that was the worst boss!

Now trying to figure out how to get the next hint mark. :mad:


Also, the ending is determined by % items right? So scans only unlock image galleries? I ask as I didn't scan the boost guardian the time I beat him, I decided it was wasting to much time and just started off attacking him and ended up taking about 2/3's of his power before the first time he went to ball form.

[Josh H]

Beat a few more bosses, and just finished the second temple.

Loving the game, but hating the bosses. Not really that they're too hard, they just take too damn long. Even once you figure them out they take too long to kill. Seems like I'm wasting at least an hour on each between figuring out how to damage them in each form, their patterns, and actually executing it.

Might go to gamefaqs for a boss faq so I can just get straight to the execution phase of the remaining boss battles to speed things up a little as I'm really not enjoying that aspect of the game at all. Never was much of a fan of bosses period.

The zelda series got bosses right IMO in that 95% of them are easy to execute once you figure out and the battles don't take too long most of the time.