Deadwood 4/11
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last 2 weeks I've been looking forward to this more than Sopranos which is very strange, definately my favorite new show of the season (but I'm still liking The Shield a little more right now)
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Man this show is great. I love how there is this tension that you constantly feel (at least I do) as you wait for all hell to break loose. It is right now my favorite show on television and I went in thinking I wouldn't like it at all. So glad I gave it a chance.
As for tonight's episode, I think we have come to a crossroads.
Also Borst I was thinking the exact same thing.
Question: Anyone know how this is during ratings wise? I'm sure that being in a juicy timeslot behind the Sopranos has helped but I'm curious as to the actual numbers because I would love to see a second season.
As for tonight's episode, I think we have come to a crossroads.
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Question: Anyone know how this is during ratings wise? I'm sure that being in a juicy timeslot behind the Sopranos has helped but I'm curious as to the actual numbers because I would love to see a second season.
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As for a second season, my brother was telling me last night that they were already offered a second season. He saw the show's creator on some interview... I'd have to ask him which one. I can't remember.
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Wow. Where do we go from here?
Were this a mini-series, Bill's fate would've normally been the climax of the show. Now I'm somewhat confused. With two of the show's biggest archetypal characters - Wild Bill and the moneyed, snooty, out-of-his-depth Easterner (whose name escapes me at the moment) - now gone, who will rise to the surface to take their places? Those two characters seemed to be such obvious tentpoles for a western series. And the way they were so integral to the opening plots, you'd have thought these were the main characters for the series as a whole.
Is the supporting cast compelling enough to build a series on? Personally, I'd be intrigued to see the show pull back from the balls-out macho western that we've seen up to this point and focus on the Easterner's dilaudid addicted wife and poor troubled manly mama-cum-lately "Jane."
Were this a mini-series, Bill's fate would've normally been the climax of the show. Now I'm somewhat confused. With two of the show's biggest archetypal characters - Wild Bill and the moneyed, snooty, out-of-his-depth Easterner (whose name escapes me at the moment) - now gone, who will rise to the surface to take their places? Those two characters seemed to be such obvious tentpoles for a western series. And the way they were so integral to the opening plots, you'd have thought these were the main characters for the series as a whole.
Is the supporting cast compelling enough to build a series on? Personally, I'd be intrigued to see the show pull back from the balls-out macho western that we've seen up to this point and focus on the Easterner's dilaudid addicted wife and poor troubled manly mama-cum-lately "Jane."
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grunter: I think the shows overall main character was always intended to be Seth Bullock. He's going to be much more proactive from now on, judging from next weeks previews, and the fact that (big historical spoiler)
. It was sad to see Wild Bill go, he was such a great character.
I wonder if the Gem will ever get a theater, considering it had one in real life.
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I wonder if the Gem will ever get a theater, considering it had one in real life.
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bd: Oh, no, I knew that Seth was always supposed to be the main focus of the show.
It's just that with all the screentime devoted to Bill and the "easterner" - you'd have thought those two to at least be series regulars.
The fallout to Bill's death will be interesting to watch. I'm completely obsessed with Jane at the moment.
It's just that with all the screentime devoted to Bill and the "easterner" - you'd have thought those two to at least be series regulars.
The fallout to Bill's death will be interesting to watch. I'm completely obsessed with Jane at the moment.
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Originally posted by mano365
Question: Anyone know how this is during ratings wise? I'm sure that being in a juicy timeslot behind the Sopranos has helped but I'm curious as to the actual numbers because I would love to see a second season.
Question: Anyone know how this is during ratings wise? I'm sure that being in a juicy timeslot behind the Sopranos has helped but I'm curious as to the actual numbers because I would love to see a second season.
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Unless you go and read the history of the people on the show to find out when they died I think you can assume nobody is safe. After the first episode I read that Wild Bill was killed 2 days after Seth Bullock arrived in Deadwood. I'm going to try to avoid reading anything else like that because I've just been waiting for it to happen the last two episodes. I would've been pretty shocked if I hadn't read about it.
I am glad that they aren't stretching the truth too much about what actually went on in Deadwood, it just makes me wish they would've started the show at the point Al Swearingen came to town or first opened the Gem.
I am glad that they aren't stretching the truth too much about what actually went on in Deadwood, it just makes me wish they would've started the show at the point Al Swearingen came to town or first opened the Gem.
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Well that was one of the best hours of television i've ever seen....how they handled the final scene was phenomenal, as were a couple of other choice scenes. Simply fantastic writing and camera work. It's to the point now that i'm looking forward to this more than the Sopranos, and that's something I thought was damned near impossible.
And kudos to the writers for not going the schmaltz route and doing something like
And kudos to the writers for not going the schmaltz route and doing something like
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So damn good!
I am getting the feeling each week as this progresses, that this is one of the more accurate portrayals of midwestern life in the 1800's in America.
I kind of feel bad for all the Western enthusiasts who were so put off by the swearing that they quit watching.
This is the real deal Western!!!
I am getting the feeling each week as this progresses, that this is one of the more accurate portrayals of midwestern life in the 1800's in America.
I kind of feel bad for all the Western enthusiasts who were so put off by the swearing that they quit watching.
This is the real deal Western!!!
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And kudos to the writers for not going the schmaltz route and doing something like showing Hickock's hand of cards right before he got shot - he was holding Aces and 8s when he was killed in real life, now known as the Dead Man's Hand. I thought for sure that's how it would be shown....and i'm glad it wasn't. A perfect out-of-the-blue portrayal of the murder....
And kudos to the writers for not going the schmaltz route and doing something like showing Hickock's hand of cards right before he got shot - he was holding Aces and 8s when he was killed in real life, now known as the Dead Man's Hand. I thought for sure that's how it would be shown....and i'm glad it wasn't. A perfect out-of-the-blue portrayal of the murder....
I actually thought they'd pan to his hand after he got shot, and I wondered why they never showed the "Dead-Man's Hand".
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I'm not sure if this was answered in a previous thread or anything, but I was wondering if anyone more familiar with history could explain the Pinkertons to me, and why Al is so concerned with them coming to Deadwood.
I'd look it up myself, but I don't want to accidentally run into too many spoilers for this series.
I'd look it up myself, but I don't want to accidentally run into too many spoilers for this series.
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Great ep. Joanie (the hooker with Powers Boother I think) is really hot IMO. Ian McShane is already on his way to becoming one of the most memorable TV villains in history, and Carradine deserves a supporting actor Emmy nom. for this show.
Question: what was the deal with the Indian's head being paraded around town? I guess it was to show the chaos that was Deadwood, but I was wondering if it might be an innocent they think slaughtered the young girl's family.
The minute he bit the dust, I thought they would try to turn his wife into a prostitute.
Question: what was the deal with the Indian's head being paraded around town? I guess it was to show the chaos that was Deadwood, but I was wondering if it might be an innocent they think slaughtered the young girl's family.
The minute he bit the dust, I thought they would try to turn his wife into a prostitute.
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Originally posted by AndyB976
I'm not sure if this was answered in a previous thread or anything, but I was wondering if anyone more familiar with history could explain the Pinkertons to me, and why Al is so concerned with them coming to Deadwood.
I'm not sure if this was answered in a previous thread or anything, but I was wondering if anyone more familiar with history could explain the Pinkertons to me, and why Al is so concerned with them coming to Deadwood.
(No spoilers here): http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/acs/...pinkerton.html
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Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
They were a private detective agency, active at that time and on into the 20th century.
They were a private detective agency, active at that time and on into the 20th century.
I didn't particularly enjoy this episode. Maybe that is because I have hated the Brom and Alma story from the start.
Although, it's nice that Bullock has now faced the pivotal moment and we can expect the more compelling stories to really pick up.
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Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Question: what was the deal with the Indian's head being paraded around town? I guess it was to show the chaos that was Deadwood, but I was wondering if it might be an innocent they think slaughtered the young girl's family.
Question: what was the deal with the Indian's head being paraded around town? I guess it was to show the chaos that was Deadwood, but I was wondering if it might be an innocent they think slaughtered the young girl's family.
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here's a lengthy and very good history of Pinkerton and his detective agency: http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters2/pinkerton/
It's funny to me that "Pinkertons" are kind of a joke now - the lowest rung on the policing totem poll - but were in their heyday a very formidable outfit.
It's funny to me that "Pinkertons" are kind of a joke now - the lowest rung on the policing totem poll - but were in their heyday a very formidable outfit.