How come some actresses have clauses in their contracts to not do nudity? I mean, when you think about it, that's really hurting their careers when they do that. Look at Charlize Theron, no problem doing nudity, wins an Oscar, same with Jennifer Connelly, Angelina Jolie, Halle Berry, Nicole Kidman, Gwenyth Paltrow, Hilary Swank, and Holly Hunter. I think the actresses that state they won't do nudity at all are truly limiting themselves to certain roles. What do you think?
matome
03-25-04, 01:27 PM
Well, if they don't want to nudity from the get-go I certainly wouldn't hold it against them. It could be for moral/religious reasons, timidity etc. What irks me are the ones who use nudity to get into films and once they have a hit movie drop in the no-nudity clause because they are serious "artists" now and it's beneath them (Shannon Elizabeth for example). Of course the opposite also comes into play where you have to do nudity to get attention since your once strong career is now floundering (Meg Ryan) and you need to do something to get attention back.
Hillary Swank has done nude scenes??? Please advise!
Giles
03-25-04, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by matome
Hillary Swank has done nude scenes??? Please advise!
you're being sarcastic, right?
matome
03-25-04, 01:38 PM
Nope, I'm serious. Of course I've only seen her Karate Kid movie, Insomnia and Boys Don't Cry (it's been a while, but I don't remember any nudity in that one).
Giles
03-25-04, 01:41 PM
not to be crude, but in Boys you see full frontal nudity.
matome
03-25-04, 01:45 PM
Thanks, not sure how I could forget something like that, but it's good to know! :D
Giles
03-25-04, 02:07 PM
In regards to "Boys", apparently the European prints of the film are the full unrated cut of the film. The film here in the states was trimmed of explicit footage, notably during the rape sequence to earn it's R-rating.
chente
03-25-04, 02:08 PM
Actresses and Nudity? I'm all for it.
Giles
03-25-04, 02:11 PM
I remember reading that Neve Campbell initiated a 'no-nudity' clause in her contract when Wild Things was to begin filming.
REL77
03-25-04, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Giles
I remember reading that Neve Campbell initiated a 'no-nudity' clause in her contract when Wild Things was to begin filming.
Thank God Denise Richards didnt have that in her contract then :)
Jackskeleton
03-25-04, 02:46 PM
I think the actresses that state they won't do nudity at all are truly limiting themselves to certain roles.
Not to sound prude or anything since I'm always up for seeing chicks like Nicole Kidman nude, but how the hell is it limiting? I haven't seen any role where it was a MUST for the actress to get nude to truly be in character.
It's a bonus, but not a requirement. Be a conviencing actress first and foremost before you try to just be eye candy. Look at the whole 9 yards. Was that quick nude scene REALLY needed?
REL77
03-25-04, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
I haven't seen any role where it was a MUST for the actress to get nude to truly be in character.
there are roles in which require nudity... Elizabeth Berkleys role in Showgirls... Roller Girl in Boogie Nights.... There are some roles in which require nudity...
Giles
03-25-04, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by REL77
there are roles in which require nudity... Elizabeth Berkleys role in Showgirls... Roller Girl in Boogie Nights.... There are some roles in which require nudity...
almost everyone in Quest for Fire
and if you're in a Peter Greenaway film it's a given. -wink-
wendersfan
03-25-04, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Giles
and if you're in a Peter Greenaway film it's a given. -wink- Yes, but in most cases only if you're at least 100 pounds overweight.
Jackskeleton
03-25-04, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by REL77
there are roles in which require nudity... Elizabeth Berkleys role in Showgirls... Roller Girl in Boogie Nights.... There are some roles in which require nudity...
Show girls in itself would be limiting your career. Not taking it is a smart thing.
Nudity really doesn't limit it. I didn't have to see Roller Girl nude in boogie nights to get the idea that she is a porn star. These are all things that can be worked around. Is it a nice bonus? Yes. Is it a requirement to truely get great roles? No, not really.
wmansir
03-25-04, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by PopcornTreeCt
How come some actresses have clauses in their contracts to not do nudity? I mean, when you think about it, that's really hurting their careers when they do that. Look at Charlize Theron, no problem doing nudity, wins an Oscar, same with Jennifer Connelly, Angelina Jolie, Halle Berry, Nicole Kidman, Gwenyth Paltrow, Hilary Swank, and Holly Hunter. I think the actresses that state they won't do nudity at all are truly limiting themselves to certain roles. What do you think?
I think don't think Jolie has shyed away from nudity since she hit it big. Just look at Original Sin (2001), and her new movie Taking Lives. She didn't show everything in the Tomb Raider series, though she came close, because it would't have been appropriate. In the last few years she has taken a variety of roles, some don't require nudity, some do. I don't think it is fair to lump her in with actresses like Shannon Elizabeth and Denise Richards who make their career on nudity, then require a no-nudity clause once they make it.
Jackskeleton
03-25-04, 03:47 PM
I thought the Shannon Elizabeth no-nudity clause was all rumors.
retihsuhnt
03-25-04, 03:52 PM
Hey OP, with your logic, Shannon Tweed should receive a lifetime achievement Oscar.
Last time I checked Julia Roberts is an Oscar winner that never appeared nude in any of her films. Its a well known fact that she had a body double in Pretty Woman.
Hell I find it funny to see how few movie Charlize is NOT nude in. I think Im up to three (3).
Sierra Disc
03-25-04, 03:53 PM
Funny, nobody seems to think it's a must for men to have nudity for their careers....
tdirgins
03-25-04, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by chente
Actresses and Nudity? I'm all for it.
Exactly. :)
retihsuhnt
03-25-04, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Sierra Disc
Funny, nobody seems to think it's a must for men to have nudity for their careers....
Hey I DO NOT need to see Kevin Bacon shaking his jubblies on screen. Hell seeing Jack Nicholsan's arse was a bit much.
ianholm
03-25-04, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by retihsuhnt
Last time I checked Julia Roberts is an Oscar winner that never appeared nude in any of her films. Its a well known fact that she had a body double in Pretty Woman.
Not exactly true. In Pretty Woman if you look through the correct lattice hole when she and Gere are getting it on at the end of the movie, you see a little something perfectly framed!
Spanky BananaPants
03-25-04, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by chente
Actresses and Nudity? I'm all for it.
Unless it's Kathy Bates. :yack:
retihsuhnt
03-25-04, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by ianholm
Not exactly true. In Pretty Woman if you look through the correct lattice hole when she and Gere are getting it on at the end of the movie, you see a little something perfectly framed!
Okay that scene is within the first 40 minutes of the movie, not at the end. And in interviews since the movie, she (Roberts) has said it was a BODY DOUBLE.
Pants
03-25-04, 05:02 PM
From all the reports I've heard over the years it sounds like Julia Roberts' body double worked more days on the film than Roberts did :)
littlefuzzy
03-25-04, 05:23 PM
I have a no-nudity clause in my contract...
They made me sign it...
-other-
PopcornTreeCt
03-25-04, 05:49 PM
I'm not discussing whether or not nudity is required for a particular film. Let's take 21 Grams for example. There's a scene of nudity in the script, does the studio pick an actress that is ok with nudity or one they will have to negotiatie to get her to take her clothes off? The studio picks the actress who is ok with doing nudity and thus leads to an Oscar nomination. That's what I mean by it limiting a certain actresses' potential roles. 21 Grams was just an example, I have no idea how Naomi Watts came about getting the part. Yes, there are plenty of Oscar winning actresses who have never done nudity but I think as an actress when you make it known that you won't do nudity, that's a big strike against you. Automatically, that actresses' agent throws out scripts of Titanic, Monster's Ball, Monster, 21 Grams, Boys Don't Cry, Boogie Nights, and other potentially great parts.
Suprmallet
03-25-04, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by PopcornTreeCt
I'm not discussing whether or not nudity is required for a particular film. Let's take 21 Grams for example. There's a scene of nudity in the script, does the studio pick an actress that is ok with nudity or one they will have to negotiatie to get her to take her clothes off? The studio picks the actress who is ok with doing nudity and thus leads to an Oscar nomination. That's what I mean by it limiting a certain actresses' potential roles. 21 Grams was just an example, I have no idea how Naomi Watts came about getting the part. Yes, there are plenty of Oscar winning actresses who have never done nudity but I think as an actress when you make it known that you won't do nudity, that's a big strike against you. Automatically, that actresses' agent throws out scripts of Titanic, Monster's Ball, Monster, 21 Grams, Boys Don't Cry, Boogie Nights, and other potentially great parts.
As far as 21 Grams goes, Naomi Watts contacted Inarritu and said she wanted to work with him before she even read the script. Of course, as we all know, she was perfectly willing to do the nudity, so it worked out. I have a feeling that even if she didn't want to do nudity before 21 Grams, she would have done it for the film, because of the way she talks about Inarritu and his cinematic genius.
Iron_Giant
03-25-04, 08:21 PM
I would say about 95% of all nudity in movies have nothing to do with the plot of the movie. They could have done many other things other than showing a woman nude and still have had the same plot.
I really do feel sorry for these woman that have to take their clothes off to be noticed or to get a part. My wife and I would rather see a movie with no nudity and a great plot anyday of the week.
And I do not think a woman is holding back her carrer with having a no nudity clause in her contract. I believe she will get back 100 times more in self respect and respect from family, friends and fans.
Look what happens when she loses her beauty, everyone starts talking about how she has gone down hill and looks like a dog now. Nudity can only take you so far, just look at Denise Richards carrer, not a whole lot of awards being won as best actress.
PopcornTreeCt
03-25-04, 08:34 PM
Well I don't think a woman should do nudity to try to jumpstart a career. It should be for a role she is passionate about and a director she has a lot of respect for. I would have to disagree about your 95% assumption, Iron_Giant. I don't think nudity ever has anything to do with the plot of the story it more has to do with the way the story is told. I think it fits more along the lines with camera angles or editing, it either enhances or detracts the plot of the story. Its kinda like saying 95% of all f-words in movies have nothing to do with the plot of the movie. True but some of the most memorable phrases in movies have the f-bomb in them. Anyway, its nice to hear some different opinions on the matter.
Kumar J
03-26-04, 12:08 AM
Halle Berry being nude in Swordfish had no effect on the plot.But it made people wanna see the movie more :)
Rypro 525
03-26-04, 12:09 AM
wasn't she paid like 50 grand a boob?
will travel
03-26-04, 03:02 AM
Halle was overpaid for those saggy things.
wmansir
03-26-04, 04:00 AM
Halle has denied the reports that she was paid extra for the nude scene, but who knows?
I did a little searching and found this interview (http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2001/07/29/story329719.asp) where she talks about it and a related story about how Travolta was a major ass during one of her scenes (my words not her's). She was doing the scene where he interupts her changing clothes and breaks character to ask the crew to "applaud the body".
chente
03-26-04, 02:10 PM
The Julianne Moore nudes scenes in Boogie Nights were essential to the plot.
Giles
03-26-04, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by chente
The Julianne Moore nudes scenes in Boogie Nights were essential to the plot.
or even her gratitutious, yet very revealing full frontal shot in Robert Altman's Short Cuts
Rypro 525
03-26-04, 03:23 PM
actually, berry said (could have been a joke) at the mtv movie awards that she was paid, and as a tease, to ask Travolta and Jackman to show their chest (big cheers from the women in the audience)
THORN
03-27-04, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by retihsuhnt
Hey I DO NOT need to see Kevin Bacon shaking his jubblies on screen. Hell seeing Jack Nicholsan's arse was a bit much.
i seccond the kevin bacon thought, his manhood has seen so much screen time it has its own SAG card!!!! i just wonder who gets top billing mr bacon, or mr bacons package !!!!
Pants
03-27-04, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Iron_Giant
My wife and I would rather see a movie with no nudity and a great plot anyday of the week. She made you say that didn't she?
Patman
03-27-04, 08:41 PM
I think Harvey Keitel has a nudity clause for each of movies of late (i.e. he demands to appear nude in his movies) :D
POWERBOMB
03-28-04, 12:27 AM
There is not enough actesses who do nude scenes in movies.
Jackskeleton
03-28-04, 01:00 AM
I see enough of it at work. Give me something I don't see every day.. like a good story and non-cheesy scripts.
Suprmallet
03-28-04, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
I see enough of it at work. Give me something I don't see every day.. like a good story and non-cheesy scripts.
What do you do? Where can I get a job where I see women get nude every day?
brizz
03-28-04, 12:13 PM
every time i see the title of this thread I get a little excited...and every time i click on it i get disappointed....there's way too many words on my screen and not one single pic of any kind :mad: :grunt: :mad:
cactusoly
03-28-04, 01:12 PM
Why do people complain so much when women go topless in movies. They always say there is more female nudity than male, yet men go shirtless all the time. Think about it.
PopcornTreeCt
03-28-04, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
I see enough of it at work. Give me something I don't see every day.. like a good story and non-cheesy scripts.
In the porn biz eh?
Josh-da-man
03-29-04, 08:06 PM
Looks like Anne Hathaway ("Princess Diaries" chick) is going to be taking it all off in "Havoc."
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=3921
Can you imagine Anne Hathaway, star of such family friendly fare as THE PRINCESS DIARIES and the upcoming ELLA ENCHANTED doing full-frontal nudity and masturbation scenes? Neither could I but apparently it's the real deal. Numerous test screenings for the film HAVOC have been taking place and, of course, reviews have leaked to the web that talk about the abundance of nudity in the film, most surprisingly by Hathaway.
Good for her! :up:
DonnachaOne
03-29-04, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by cactusoly
Why do people complain so much when women go topless in movies. They always say there is more female nudity than male, yet men go shirtless all the time. Think about it. That's just a silly argument. A shirtless man hardly has the same sexual connotation as a shirtless woman. You can see shirtless men on the streets on a summer day.
Is it fair? No. Is it a double standard? of course.
raven56706
03-30-04, 02:34 PM
Shannon Elizabeth does have the clause but look at her now.......no where to be found....
al_bundy
03-30-04, 04:09 PM
i saw the heidi fleiss movie on USA last night. I don't think the nude scene will help the actress who plays meadow soprano (forgot the name). she played heidi fleiss. She isn't that good of an actress.
Suprmallet
03-30-04, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by al_bundy
i saw the heidi fleiss movie on USA last night. I don't think the nude scene will help the actress who plays meadow soprano (forgot the name). she played heidi fleiss. She isn't that good of an actress.
She gets nude? Off to mature forum!
Goat3001
03-30-04, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Suprmallet
She gets nude? Off to mature forum!
She used a body double
Spanky BananaPants
03-30-04, 08:11 PM
Whoops, never mind...
Alvis
03-30-04, 08:20 PM
Denise Richards made her career because of her nudity? Were there any movies besides Wild Things in which she takes it all off? Enquiring minds want to know!
Suprmallet
03-30-04, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Goat3001
She used a body double
That should be illegal. :mad:
Rypro 525
03-30-04, 09:47 PM
also its on network tv, so the best your gonna get is an ass shot.
UAIOE
03-31-04, 12:32 PM
Network TV? Unless its "NYPD Blue" the most nudity you could expect is like, a bare kneecap.
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