Congrats to the Lord of the Rings: Return of the King team for winning all 11 Oscar Awards out of 11 Nominations equalling the top number of awards ever won in history along the lines with Titanic and Ben Hur.
Mutley Hyde
03-01-04, 12:40 AM
:banana:
Decker
03-01-04, 12:40 AM
...and besting the previous mark of perfection (The Last Emperor, 9 for 9).
Trivia Time: What else do those two films have in common?
Jepthah
03-01-04, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Decker
...and besting the previous mark of perfection (The Last Emperor, 9 for 9).
Trivia Time: What else do those two films have in common?
I was unsure if any other film had swept its nominated categories. :D
Film history was made tonight...no longer will Hollywood be able to say that fantasy and sci-fi genres are incapable of being total successes with the industry, the critics and the public.
"The World Is Changed..."
Tsar Chasm
03-01-04, 12:48 AM
Gigi as well. 9 for 9
Ergyu
03-01-04, 12:49 AM
Totally awesome, it's great to see this.
Corvin
03-01-04, 12:57 AM
I was impressed. Quite something to behold.
eXcentris
03-01-04, 01:10 AM
Except that this "we'll wait until after the 3rd film to reward Jackson and his films" sucks for all the other films/directors nominated this year.
Giles
03-01-04, 01:13 AM
IMO it didn't deserve
editing
song (Triplets song was better :D )
score
B.A.
03-01-04, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by eXcentris
Except that this "we'll wait until after the 3rd film to reward Jackson and his films" sucks for all the other films/directors nominated this year. Yes, it does. But I am also one of the few that would have liked to see it win for FotR, imo - the best film of the trilogy, than wait until the entire trilogy was released to garnish it w/ awards.
B.A.
03-01-04, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by Giles
IMO it didn't deserve
editing
Easy job to have during the making of these films. ;)
eXcentris
03-01-04, 01:17 AM
I wanted the Triplets song to win too because Benoit Charest is a local boy and because I'm tired of all those darn melancholic sappy songs that always get nominated.
mllefoo
03-01-04, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Giles
IMO it didn't deserve
song (Triplets song was better :D )
Eh, that song didn't impress me. But then, I really don't like that sort of music.
Frankly, of all the songs presented, I would have gone for that Mighty Wind song. That may be due to being raised on folk music (Limelighters, Peter Paul and Mary, Weavers), and that song is a nice tribute to that era.
I enjoyed watching Annie sing her song, though, because she really showed a lot of emotion while she sang.
Since I love Return of the King and all of its endings, I'm happy to see it sweep.
B.A.
03-01-04, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by eXcentris
I wanted the Triplets song to win too because Benoit Charest is a local boy and because I'm tired of all those darn melancholic sappy songs that always get nominated. Songs nominated for the Oscar do tend to suck don't they? The only time I ever enjoyed a performance was the over-the-top performance for "Blame Canada" w/ Robin Williams several years ago.
Decker
03-01-04, 01:23 AM
Well, since no one took me up on the trivia challenge:
They were the last two films (and the only ones in nearly 50 years) to win Best Picture and not receive a single acting nomination.
B.A.
03-01-04, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Decker
Well, since no one took me up on the trivia challenge:
They were the last two films (and the only ones in nearly 50 years) to win Best Picture and not receive a single acting nomination. Braveheart won the Best Picture award and not a single actor from that film was nominated.
The Nature Boy
03-01-04, 01:43 AM
I wasn't as captivated as either the world or the internet with the LOTR, but as a guy who's followed Peter since the horror days and I spent many a night converting my circles of friends to Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles, etc, I couldn't be more happy for him to have a moment in the sun like this. He geniuely seems like a nice guy, who's dedicated more to film than to the star scene, and it feels like the hometown boy made good, even if our towns are 8000 miles apart. Bravo for a virtuoso effort, and tonight truly makes up for the snubs at the last 2 awards.
He is a Derek, and Derek's don't run!
Playitagainsam
03-01-04, 02:27 AM
....will this lead to a better release of `Meet the Feebles`??? :)
Giles
03-01-04, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by Playitagainsam
....will this lead to a better release of `Meet the Feebles`??? :)
one could only hope, one could only hope,
how about the deluxe OOP laserdisc edition (with extras) of "The Frighteners" on DVD, or how about a legitamit Region 1 DVD release of the uncut longer version of "Dead Alive"
Rivero
03-01-04, 03:57 AM
Take THAT, Luca$!
;)
jaeufraser
03-01-04, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by Giles
one could only hope, one could only hope,
how about the deluxe OOP laserdisc edition (with extras) of "The Frighteners" on DVD, or how about a legitamit Region 1 DVD release of the uncut longer version of "Dead Alive"
Somebody needs to put you in charge of the Peter Jackson DVD library. I'd give my right arm (ok, maybe not my arm...can I borrow yours?) to get these movies in their super duper, decked out with all possible features versions.
Giantrobo
03-01-04, 06:15 AM
I think LOTR got what it deserved. :up:
Gil Jawetz
03-01-04, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by Playitagainsam
....will this lead to a better release of `Meet the Feebles`??? :)
It was great to hear him mention Feebles and Bad Taste. Never thought I'd hear those titles on the Oscars.
What I'd really love (in addition to those flicks) is a really nice special edition of Heavenly Creatures. What a masterpiece, and Miramax's DVD is total crapola.
Tyler_Durden
03-01-04, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Tsar Chasm
Gigli as well. 9 for 9 More like * out of ****. :)
n0fear88
03-01-04, 07:38 AM
congrats to Peter and the gang :banana: w00t w00t :D :lol:
had to happen eh? :)
Dr. DVD
03-01-04, 09:23 AM
Good for PJ. I liked that he mentioned "Bad Taste" and "Meet the Feebles" as being "rightly overlooked by the academy." :lol:
I still hold out hope that he will make a sequel to Feebles, but I doubt it. ;)
Tandem
03-01-04, 09:28 AM
If only they had cast someone who could act, they might have won 12.
DVD-ho78(DTS)
03-01-04, 09:33 AM
I look even more forward to seeing this down the road. Right after I see the second one. :)
Vegas9203
03-01-04, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Tandem
If only they had cast someone who could act, they might have won 12.
I think the reason they didn't nominate anyone for acting was that there were too many great performances in the film and they didn't know who to nominate. I know you're attempting to rip the movie with your comment (and you're allowed...popularity always begets backlash), but I really think that's the reason.
I would have liked to see Sean Astin win (and be nominated).
HoosierPapa
03-01-04, 09:45 AM
The number of charactors hurt LOTR in terms of getting acting nominations. First, who is the lead? Gandalf, Frodo, maybe Aragorn? Each can be debated, but the bottom line is that there was no traditional lead.
Then you have the supporting cast, with more charactors than you can shake a stick at. Sam in most peoples opinion was the one clear miss in nominations. But if you give him a nod, then what about Legolas, Gimli, Gollum, Theoden, Denethor, Faramir, Merry, Pippin, Arowen, and so on.
So I don't think it was a knock on the acting as much as confusion over the number of charactors.
Tandem
03-01-04, 09:55 AM
Since I haven't seen the film, I was just kidding about the acting. I thought the first two seemed to be more about the special effects. Not that that's a bad thing, the effects seemed to really carry the movies and make them grander that it would have been without the effects.
Vegas9203
03-01-04, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Tandem
Since I haven't seen the film, I was just kidding about the acting. I thought the first two seemed to be more about the special effects. Not that that's a bad thing, the effects seemed to really carry the movies and make them grander that it would have been without the effects.
Really? I don't think so....I thought what made them great was the story...the special effects were definitely secondary. It made it visually stunning, but I don't think it was about that at all. I mean, the Matrix Reloaded and All the star wars episodes were full of good special effects but were TERRIBLE movies. If there's only special effects and bad acting and a bad story in general, they won't matter. I thought it was a beautiful story and the effects that are available in this day and age made it possible for the story to come to life perfectly. IMO, of course! ;)
cactusoly
03-01-04, 10:18 AM
here we go again
Vegas9203
03-01-04, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by cactusoly
here we go again
Why? Cuz the Matrix Episode 1 and 2 comments? ;) I meant no offense.
chanster
03-01-04, 10:23 AM
I am glad that the Lord of the Rings won some Oscars, and I am also glad that the movies are over..so everybody can shut up about the movies and talk about something else if possible (and yes I know there is still the ROTK DVD to come out so I guess a little more talking, but still, the movies are OVER. YEEAAAAGGH.
Vegas9203
03-01-04, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by chanster
I am glad that the Lord of the Rings won some Oscars, and I am also glad that the movies are over..so everybody can shut up about the movies and talk about something else if possible (and yes I know there is still the ROTK DVD to come out so I guess a little more talking, but still, the movies are OVER. YEEAAAAGGH.
Sorry...not gonna happen....;)
Talking about it for the past 3 years and will be for the next 5 at least!
dyerjp
03-01-04, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by chanster
YEEAAAAGGH. howard dean? welcome to the forum.
chanster
03-01-04, 10:36 AM
Sorry...not gonna happen....
Talking about it for the past 3 years and will be for the next 5 at least!
Then you need to seriously re-examine your priorities.
Vegas9203
03-01-04, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by chanster
Then you need to seriously re-examine your priorities.
Why? Cuz I'm a movie dork? :rolleyes: I don't understand the attempted insult....;)
Doesn't mean I talk of nothing else... just that I know that this movie will be peppered into non-important movie talk for the next few years.
Lionel_Hutz
03-01-04, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by chanster
Then you need to seriously re-examine your priorities.
Sorry that my priorities must not be as exciting as yours...
And I was hoping that we could keep a LOTR-related discussion "above the table." Who was I kidding?
Edited to add that I must be a "movie dork" too.
chanster
03-01-04, 10:52 AM
Yes, the poor persecuted fans of LOTR. The amount of persecution is just unbearable.
Groucho
03-01-04, 10:54 AM
chanster, quit thread-crapping and find a thread more suited to your interests.
eXcentris
03-01-04, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by chanster
Yes, the poor persecuted fans of LOTR. The amount of persecution is just unbearable.
Yes, let's end their misery and crucify them. Oh wait... then we would have a 20 page thread about how crucifixion should be done. Never mind. :D
Lastblade
03-01-04, 11:00 AM
I thought Viggo and Ian, and definitely Austin deserves a nomination, those 3 have very very strong performances, and are central characters/roles in the trilogy
Viggo/Aragorn is the damn King, the book/movie is named after him
Ian/Gandalf is the chief adversary to Mordor/Saruman/Sauron, in fact, he orchestrated the entire strategy, from sending Frodo to Mt Doom to running around Rohan and Gondor
Austin/Sam, Frodo would have been toast without him, not a supporting role at all in RoTK (not as important in FoTR/TTT)
Basically, everyone else are supporting roles IMO. But my opinion doesn't count, so oh well! :)
Dr. DVD
03-01-04, 11:02 AM
I just hope LOTR's luck doesn't result in a bunch of suck ass copycats. Fantasy is a genre that either comes out looking like LOTR or Dungeon's and Dragons in terms of quality. There is very little middle ground.
theneobez
03-01-04, 11:36 AM
Great that LOTR won so many, but I still wish FOTR, the best in the trilogy, had won back in the 2002 awards, along with Ian for best supporting actor.
The only thing I STRONGLY disagreed with in this show was Sean Penn winning over Bill Murray, what nonsense. Let me cry and grieve for 2 hours, maybe the academy will mistake it for depth.
costanza
03-01-04, 11:53 AM
sean astin is such a good actor that he put all of his hbbit weight back on for the awards ceremony. now that's sacrificing for the role.
Vegas9203
03-01-04, 11:56 AM
Well, my dorkdom paid off....I just won an Oscar pool at work ! $160 and a bottle of Champagne. SO it pays to be a movie geek!! :D
resinrats
03-01-04, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
I just hope LOTR's luck doesn't result in a bunch of suck ass copycats. Fantasy is a genre that either comes out looking like LOTR or Dungeon's and Dragons in terms of quality. There is very little middle ground.
You know there will be a bunch of fantasy movie that will definatly be on the D&D side of movies. The success of one will result in others - happened many times in the past so no reason it won't happen this time. Of course because they will suck, the fantasy genre will go back to its non-profitible status in a year or two.
randy1320
03-01-04, 12:38 PM
Congrats Lord of the Rings!
Congrats Peter Jackson!
Congrats to the 25,000 people that made these wonderful movies!
11 out of 11 all very much deserved. Finally a fantasy film good enough to be recognized gets recognized!!!
randy1320
03-01-04, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
I just hope LOTR's luck doesn't result in a bunch of suck ass copycats. Fantasy is a genre that either comes out looking like LOTR or Dungeon's and Dragons in terms of quality. There is very little middle ground.
I hope it inspires some more good fantasy movies to be made. There maybe some crappy ones, hopefully a few good ones.
Dr. DVD
03-01-04, 01:13 PM
I really do hope that the fantasy we see in the future is done with the intent of being a good movie, but history tends to prove otherwise with fads.
Such was the case with the Western after Unforgiven, we will most likely get one solid movie (like Tombstone), and the rest will be overblown garbage. I imagine it's only a matter of time before we see some name actors or actresses try to jump on the bandwagon.
Why not make a Dragonlance movie with Charlize Theron and Catherine Zeta-Jones running around in skin tight leather pants with cleavage showing shirts where they spend most of the movie either making double entendres or bending over? Trust me, something similar will happen.
Is Harry Potter considered fantasy? If not, I think it should.
Kal-El
03-01-04, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Why not make a Dragonlance movie with Charlize Theron and Catherine Zeta-Jones running around in skin tight leather pants with cleavage showing shirts where they spend most of the movie either making double entendres or bending over? Trust me, something similar will happen.
Actually Charlize would make a very good Tika and you could make CZJ the voice of the Forestmaster. although I always thought that would be either Gillian Anderson or Michell Pfeiffer.
Michael Corvin
03-01-04, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Why not make a Dragonlance movie with Charlize Theron ... running around in skin tight leather pants with cleavage showing shirts ...
While I think Charlize is amazingly gorgeous :drool:, her and 'cleavage' don't belong in the same sentence.
Gil Jawetz
03-01-04, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by randy1320
I hope it inspires some more good fantasy movies to be made. There maybe some crappy ones, hopefully a few good ones.
New Line is supposedly developing Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy, which is a really amazing fantasy series. I don't know how filmable it is (it's really complex) but the same was certainly said abotu LOTR in the past, so who knows.
talemyn
03-01-04, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Why not make a Dragonlance movie with Charlize Theron and Catherine Zeta-Jones running around in skin tight leather pants with cleavage showing shirts where they spend most of the movie either making double entendres or bending over?I think I could live with that . . . ;)
But, seriously, the only way the fantasy genre is any different than others is that it has a smaller and, possibly, more demanding, fanbase. All genre's have their small group of excellent movies floating amidst a sea of mediocrity and crap. I think that the Lord Of The Rings trilogy has given a nice boost to interest in the genre, but, unfortunately, I don't see the good-to-bad ratio changing much in the near future.
Of course, I'd be supremely happy if the industry were to prove me wrong . . . :D
Pants
03-01-04, 02:33 PM
Well I'll eat my hat and admit that I was totally wrong when I said that ROTK didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the top awards because it was made overseas. :beer: cheers to Jackson and Walsh and everyone involved.
The question in my head is: When will the fantasy buble burst? Who will be the first studio to commit $100 million plus to a multipart fantasy franchise and lose their shirts?
Lastblade
03-01-04, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Pants
question in my head is: When will the fantasy buble burst? Who will be the first studio to commit $100 million plus to a multipart fantasy franchise and lose their shirts?
Sony, they will make a movie based on Everquest, and it is going to suck :p
Rivero
03-01-04, 03:24 PM
Hope this paves the way for Meet the Feebles 2: The Return of Bletch!
Jackskeleton
03-01-04, 03:31 PM
MORE FANTASY! YAY! like classic such as D&D...
Dr. DVD
03-01-04, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
MORE FANTASY! YAY! like classic such as D&D...
Weren't you one of the naysayers who thought ROTK would get Best Director and lose Best Picture?
Why not more like Final Fantasy? YAY!!!!
n0fear88
03-01-04, 04:15 PM
i too agree that viggo, sean and/or ian should have been nominated for an award, andy serkis too :)
Original Desmond
03-01-04, 07:13 PM
I'm looking forward to the Asian rip of of LOTR
Dragons, hobbits, orcs, ninjas, Shaolin monks, ninjas all together !
Hobgoblin
03-01-04, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by chanster
Yes, the poor persecuted fans of LOTR. The amount of persecution is just unbearable. If you don't want to discuss a particular movie, or in general, if you dont like the subject matter of a particular thread, here is a radical solution:
Don't click on the thread. It is very easy and it works, trust me.
bodomnet
03-01-04, 07:56 PM
Just saw the reply about 30 mins ago.. good for LOTR. They do deserve it :)
Rypro 525
03-01-04, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Pants
Well I'll eat my hat and admit that I was totally wrong when I said that ROTK didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the top awards because it was made overseas. :beer: cheers to Jackson and Walsh and everyone involved.
The question in my head is: When will the fantasy buble burst? Who will be the first studio to commit $100 million plus to a multipart fantasy franchise and lose their shirts? final fantasy. that was supposed to be a series. it took them a few years to make it, and it costed alot of money, and it tanked, causing them to drop the series all together.
Darkfriend
03-01-04, 08:37 PM
I was expecting a couple of awards but.... 11!!!! That's real cool for the fantasy genre.
Johnny Zhivago
03-01-04, 08:40 PM
ROTK didn't get a nom for cinematography... Personally, I thought that was a little strange. Anyone else? That could have been #12 right there...
Binger
03-01-04, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Johnny Zhivago
ROTK didn't get a nom for cinematography... Personally, I thought that was a little strange. Anyone else? That could have been #12 right there...
Fellowship won for cinematography. They were not going to give these movies two cinematography awards when many consider it one large movie in 3 parts.
jough
03-01-04, 08:49 PM
I'm glad that a film finally won that I'm happy to own and watch on DVD.
And it's great that since LotR did so well at the Oscars, that every studio is going to be clamoring (if they haven't already) for a fantasy film with swordplay and sorcery. Could be fun.
Jericho
03-01-04, 09:46 PM
Where was the cinematography and sound editing damn it?
:)
Jackskeleton
03-01-04, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Weren't you one of the naysayers who thought ROTK would get Best Director and lose Best Picture?
No. Actually I'm the guy who said it would take it this year in threads such as "is ROTK oscar worthy?" I also went on to explain very early on when FOTR came out that it would lose the oscar till ROTK, in which this would be the year it would make up for the past two. ;) You got the wrong guy buddy. Get your nay sayers right.
I'm just with the stance that Fantasy on film is very hard to pull of. I would personally love a Battle Chasers type of film, but I know the transition to film is tough and one outfit that looks slightly silly will throw it off.
Dr. DVD
03-01-04, 10:09 PM
Any word on who the naysayers were? I would very much like to tease them!
Regurgitator
03-01-04, 10:10 PM
I predict the next BIG HIT will be the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe movie that's now in production.
talemyn
03-02-04, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Regurgitator
I predict the next BIG HIT will be the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe movie that's now in production. :whofart: Really?!?! I hadn't heard that yet . . . that would be great! :up: x 2
rushmore223
03-02-04, 03:04 AM
I would like to see a new award added to the Oscars...
Best Ensemble Cast.
Lord of the Rings had such an amazing cast, great acting from everyone, and while Mystic River would have beaten it had anyone been nominated, it's too bad nobody got noticed for acting.
Would have also liked to have seen a Special Achievement Award given for Andy Serkis and the Weta team for Gollum.
But, in the end, an Amazing, if predictable night for ROTK.
Shonn
03-02-04, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by Regurgitator
I predict the next BIG HIT will be the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe movie that's now in production.
Is the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe just the first of the series to be filmed or is it the only one being filmed?
Anyone know what happened to The Thief of Always? I remember hearing about it being made into a movie as well.
Decker
03-02-04, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Binger
Fellowship won for cinematography. They were not going to give these movies two cinematography awards when many consider it one large movie in 3 parts.
:hscratch: Were you watching the Oscars? How were the Makeup effects that different from those that won two years ago? Or Shore's score? Or the visual effects that have won the past two years? That arguement holds no water. The fact is: for whatever reasons the cinematographers shut out ROTK this year, which I'm okay with becasue if not, the voters would certainly fallen right in line and voted for it.
I loved ROTK but these sorts of sweeps kinda irritate me. Did members of the academy really sit and weigh the individual qualities of each film in each catagory beofre they voted? I suspect not.
Fok
03-02-04, 01:52 PM
Go New Zealand!
Lastblade
03-02-04, 02:22 PM
I wish someone would do George R R Martin's A Song of Fire and Ice. I think the first book needs about 9 hours to complete! :D
Seriously, that is my favorite series of all time. I don't even think a movie can do its justice, but I would like to see some ambitious chap to try.
Josh H
03-02-04, 03:35 PM
I don't really care about awards, but it's great to see Jackson and company get the recognition they deserve for making these films. They've given me countless hours of enjoyment and will continue to do so for years to come.
Too bad they didn't get one more nomination and award to break, rather than tie, the record for most ever.
Neeb
03-02-04, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Regurgitator
I predict the next BIG HIT will be the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe movie that's now in production.
Nope. Not because the material isn't worthwhile, but because this is one where the MBAs sat in on the story meetings. I've little doubt that this one is going to be whored worse than the Star Wars prequels when it finally comes out.
Same goes, regrettably, for HIS DARK MATERIALS.
talemyn
03-02-04, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Lastblade
I wish someone would do George R R Martin's A Song of Fire and Ice. I think the first book needs about 9 hours to complete! :D :drool:
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