The One and only Oscar Thread! Predictions/Thoughts?

[FiveO]

Well I just got done filling out my Oscar predictions at www.oscar.com and thought I'd start a thread on it.

Its the big night...whats gonna happen? :)


I'm predicting RotK will take a few:

Best picture
Best director

Pulling for Watanabe in the Supporting Actor category...and Charlize Theron in Best Actress.


Opinions?

[RyoHazuki]

My thought is that there hasnt been one truly great film nominated for best picture since 1999.

[FiveO]

Ok.

Any thoughts about tonights nominees for best picture?

[Rypro 525]

Wanntambe is an extreme long shot imo. Robbins for supporting actor. I do know one thing, if Charlize loses best actress, Ebert will denounce the acadamy. (he was quoted by saying that Charlize has one of the greatest screen performances of all time)

[FiveO]

Originally posted by Rypro 525
Wanntambe is an extreme long shot imo. Robbins for supporting actor. I do know one thing, if Charlize loses best actress, Ebert will denounce the acadamy. (he was quoted by saying that Charlize has one of the greatest screen performances of all time)

I've read that on Theron and couldn't agree more with him. I saw Monster and while I wasn't in awe of the film itself, I was mesmerized by Theron's performance.

I studied serial killers during my undergrad degree and knew a bit about Wournos before I saw this.

I'd agree on Wantanabe being a longshot...but here's hoping for the longshots :)

[Jackskeleton]

The locks are def.:

LOTR: Best picture
Peter Jackson: Director
Charlize: Actress
Renee: Supp. actress
Robbins: Supp. actor
Finding Nemo: Animation
Sophia: Original Screenplay

It's close for Actor between penn and murray, but my money is that Murray will take it. Over all he has won more awards then penn on the road to Oscar.

[FiveO]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
The locks are def.:

LOTR: Best picture
Peter Jackson: Director
Charlize: Actress
Renee: Supp. actress
Robbins: Supp. actor
Finding Nemo: Animation
Sophia: Original Screenplay


Damn good predictions....

Hopefully they'll be true thats what I guessed at www.oscar.com

[Supreme Sean]

Best Picture : LOTR : Return Of The Toy Commercial ( Mystic River will be robbed )
Best Director : Jackson
Best Actor : Penn ( Deservedly )
Best Actress : Theron
Best Supp. Actor : Robbins ( Watanabe is my favorite, though )
Best Supp. Actress : Zellweger

[FiveO]

Still like to see Watanabe get it though...

Darn close "race"....

I saw MR and really enjoyed Robbins performance.

[Rypro 525]

what are the chances that the woman from house of sand and fog will get supporting? and does city of god stand a chance of winning anything?

[wmansir]

I was going to jump into the Oscar.com fun, but the registration was too daunting, they practically wanted my SSN. So I'll just post my predictions here.

Best Picture: LOTR:ROTK

Best Director: Peter Jackson

Best Actor: Sean Penn

Best Actress: Charlize Theron

Best Supporting Actor: Tim Robbins

Best Supporting Actress: Shohreh Aghdashloo

Best Screenplay (adapted): LOTR:ROTK

Best Screenplay (original): Lost in Translation

Most of these are just based who has heat, since the only major contenders I have seen are ROTK and LiT, and PotC of course. But the academy is more about clout and popularity than talent and achievement, so it doesn't really matter.

[FiveO]

I created a Group on www.oscar.com.


Group name: DVDTalk
password: oscar



Join in!

[Jackskeleton]

A nice little image you can print out if you like:

http://www.petridish.net/pics/13140/Oscar1.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/13140/Oscar2.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/13140/Oscar3.jpg
http://www.petridish.net/pics/13140/oscar4.jpg

[Rypro 525]

anyone trying to log onto the oscar chat and having problems?

[Jackskeleton]

I hear you on that. seems it might not be up yet? dunno.

[FiveO]

Haven't tried chat...

but I'm logged into:

Room: DVDTalk
PW: oscar


Join in....we'll see how we all stack up on our predictions.

[wmansir]

Mao already has a group going named 'DVD Talk" pwd 'forum'

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=349966

[FiveO]

I logged into Mao's room at:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=349966


Join in!

[brizz]

i'm confused...is there supposed to be a chatroom at oscar.com? The DVDTalk chatroom isn't working either...

[FiveO]

:lol: at the opening

[FiveO]

sorry....but rotfl at the Michael Moore minute.

[FiveO]

And the first awards down...

Tim Robbins....Mystic River.

Good call...but I would have taken Watanabe... :)

[Jackskeleton]

That's one lock out of the way. now lets get to the other closer races.

[movielib]

:up: Robbins deserved it. He's always been underrated as an actor.

Very nice speech without political crap.

[silentbob007]

I was hoping for Watanabe, but oh well. At least Robbins kept it short.

[silentbob007]

Is it just me, or was that the worst (most fake) clip they could have used for Return of the King?

[FiveO]

Ohh....1st for RotK...


:)

[silentbob007]

Woohoo... Nemo wins best animated.

[Jackskeleton]

to the surprise of no one. ;)

[FiveO]

Easy win with Nemo. Great picture.


I got auto logged out of www.oscar.com.

Must be busy...wonder why ;) :)

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
to the surprise of no one. ;)

I was rooting for Lion King. :(

[FiveO]

Awesome.

Glad to see RotK get it for Costume Design.


:up:

[ViewAskewbian]

The ball is rolling folks... 2 for 2!

[chanster]

Sean Astin is fat again..fat hobbit!!

[ViewAskewbian]

The thing with Rings winning in some of the smaller catagories is that I know WHO everybody is from the DVDs!

[twikoff]

they really struggled to find competition in the animated movie catagory

[FiveO]

Here we go...


Zellweger is my guess:

And the winner is:.......


Zellweger......woohoo!

[ViewAskewbian]

There goes my $5 Blockbuster card! :p

[ViewAskewbian]

Argh!! She had me at "hello".

[twikoff]

i think renee really had to pee!

[FiveO]

:lol:

Nice one View...

[dilligaf]

quick i cant take it, its driving me crazy...

that theme in the background of the bob hope piece. what movie is that from...?


thanks

[silentbob007]

forest gump

[ViewAskewbian]

Anybody else think that when they showed the clip of the very old, shrivled Bob Hope standing at the end of the tribute that he managed to cheat God and return to Earth in his pre-death from or that a passing comet awoke the dead and Hope managed to lurch his way over to the Awards or that, like in Star Wars, we were all seeing the Force ghost of Hope? No, just me? Alright.

[Scot1458]

the applause to Bob Hope was pathetic.

He deserved more than that.

[silentbob007]

Live Action Short guy ... like they are going to give you time

[twikoff]

what is that thing sting is playing?

[FiveO]

Is he even playing it....just running his hand around it.

;)

[silentbob007]

I thought they were going to knock out all 5 songs in a row there for a sec ....

[dilligaf]

Originally posted by silentbob007
forest gump

thank you

that was going to be one of those things that kept me up tonite.

[Skorp]

Beautiful rendition of "Into the West" by Annie.

[FiveO]

Originally posted by Skorp
Beautiful rendition of "Into the West" by Annie.


Very well done...agreed.

[ViewAskewbian]

***** Galore??? I just got it! My God, that's vulgar!!! rotfl

[Jackskeleton]

FCC smack down for that one! ;)

[silentbob007]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
***** Galore??? I just got it! My God, that's vulgar!!! rotfl

That might even have beat out the Michael Moore cameo ....

[FiveO]

Woohoo!

Another one for RotK.

Well deserved IMHO.

[Jackskeleton]

w00 h00! the technical awards. something everyone cares about.. oh wait. :(

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
FCC smack down for that one! ;)

FCC: You see, ummm, much like errr....Bono, mmmm, it was not used as a sexual referance but to...ummm...a fim character name. So **** you! That wasn't sexual either, bitch!

[ViewAskewbian]

Jim Carry
IS
Peter Sellers
IN

THE PARTY II - THE REVENGE!

This time it's personal!

[Scot1458]

Peter Jackson looks like a big fat slob. He's an embarrsement! My heavens.....can't he look presentable for one single night?

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by Scot1458
Peter Jackson looks like a big fat slob. He's an embarrsement! My heavens.....can't he look presentable for one single night?

You're just lucky he's wearing shoes. ;)

[silentbob007]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
You're just lucky he's wearing shoes. ;)

The people around him are luckier, I'm sure ....

[Scot1458]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
You're just lucky he's wearing shoes. ;)

You got a point.

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
You're just lucky he's wearing shoes. ;)

But he isn't wearing any pants and everybody can see his Hobbit....eeee....oi...glavin!

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
w00 h00! the technical awards. something everyone cares about.. oh wait. :(

Well, technicaly, they're not that bad.

I'm here all night folks!!!!

[Jackskeleton]

MURRAY!!!!

[conscience]

Johansson :drool:

[FiveO]

Dang...another one for RotK.


:up:

Good going.

[silentbob007]

and another for RotK

5/5

[FiveO]

Wow...

another one for RotK.


Just a few left for the sweep ;)

[FiveO]

Master and Commander pulls one out of the hat!

[Frank TJ Mackey]

Yeah, Pete Jackson could save a lot of money on the film if he just played King Kong himself. Good God, doesn't he have a wife who could dress him or something?


Go Bill, Scarlett and Sofia.
Lost In Translation. Best Film of the Year in my humble opinion.

[Scot1458]

Originally posted by Frank TJ Mackey
Yeah, Pete Jackson could save a lot of money on the film if he just played King Kong himself. Good God, doesn't he have a wife who could dress him or something?


Go Bill, Scarlett and Sofia.
Lost In Translation. Best Film of the Year in my humble opinion.

i'm with you. Or even Master and Commander. ROTK was a good popcorn/escapist movie. It should'nt be in the best picture catagory.

[badger1997]

"Return of the King has 11 nominations tonight.....one for each ending."

rotfl

[silentbob007]

Originally posted by Scot1458
i'm with you. Or even Master and Commander. ROTK was a good popcorn/escapist movie. It should'nt be in the best picture catagory.

I would agree with this ... but I think RotK should win representing LOTR as a whole.

I'd understand if RotK lost best picture, but there is no way PJ should lose for best director ... he deserves it for the ambition and scope of the project.

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by Scot1458
i'm with you. Or even Master and Commander. ROTK was a good popcorn/escapist movie. It should'nt be in the best picture catagory.

Blasphemy!!! :jawdrop:



Everyone's entitled to their two, though.

[ViewAskewbian]

I just watched The Color Purple again last night. It's amazing how much work Opera has had done. Or is that natural change? :p

[badger1997]

I know it's an unpopular opinion around here (kinda strange when you consider how many people get pissed over the Academy supposedly giving "make up" awards for when they have supposedly passed over that actor in the past), but ROTK should be judged on its own merits and not the other movies. After all, it is nominated, not all three as a whole. They were already up and had their chance.

[silentbob007]

cue the music on the Chernobyl chick ....

[Jackskeleton]

ROTK was a good popcorn/escapist movie. It should'nt be in the best picture catagory.


But you see, this is more of an honor for the entire LOTR trilogy.

[jasonbird]

Originally posted by Frank TJ Mackey
Go Bill, Scarlett and Sofia.
Lost In Translation. Best Film of the Year in my humble opinion.

Meh, to each his own. I thought Lost was just okay myself.

Jason

[Scot1458]

Originally posted by silentbob007
I would agree with this ... but I think RotK should win representing LOTR as a whole.

I'd understand if RotK lost best picture, but there is no way PJ should lose for best director ... he deserves it for the ambition and scope of the project.

Yes, I could agree with that.

[ViewAskewbian]

A political speach in the documentary Catagory should be a yearly tradition. :p Nobody booed him, though.

[Scot1458]

Well that dude had nothing on Michael Moore.

[conscience]

Originally posted by silentbob007
...but I think RotK should win representing LOTR as a whole.


I disagree, but I will agree that this is what most voters are doing.

[Jackskeleton]

That's what the voters always do. if the film has a chance to win the following year they go for the final chance. That's the main reason it hasn't won the last two years.

[ViewAskewbian]

Humm, like Hope and Hep, I think Peck deserved an extended tribute...but that's just me.

[FiveO]

Sorry...OT...but:

rotfl at the AE Tiger Woods commercial...

:lol:

[Scot1458]

doesn't anybody find it ironic how they applauded the Bush bash, yet they give applause to Hitler's propogandist?

[candyrocket786]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
Humm, like Hope and Hep, I think Peck deserved an extended tribute...but that's just me.

I agree.

Also, looks like Jonathan Brandis was forgotten.

[Skorp]

If they didn't award FOTR or TTT because they were waiting for ROTK, then a "cumulative" award is more than justified.

[silentbob007]

shhhhhh everyone .... Phil Collins

;)

[Sierra Disc]

Originally posted by Scot1458
doesn't anybody find it ironic how they applauded the Bush bash, yet they give applause to Hitler's propogandist?

If you'd actually listened you would've noticed the aplause suddenly became very t entative and then died out completely once people realized who they were applauding.

:thumbsup: for the Bush bashing i might add. Thank god we live in a free country.

[jasonbird]

Clean sweep by LOTR?

Jason

[ViewAskewbian]

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Shore not eligable for the Award under new Oscar rules? (Hence why he was not nominated for the Two Towers)

[jasonbird]

Whats the new rule?

[Scot1458]

Originally posted by Sierra Disc
If you'd actually listened you would've noticed the aplause suddenly became very t entative and then died out completely once people realized who they were applauding.

:thumbsup: for the Bush bashing i might add. Thank god we live in a free country.

I didn't hear any lapse, but my surround isn't on, so I'll take your word for it.

As for bashing Bush, you bet I'm glad we live in a free country. I just believe in balance.

And damn it! Phil Collins is on the show...and I was just listening to THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY on the way home today! Man could he drum in his day!

[badger1997]

Originally posted by Skorp
If they didn't award FOTR or TTT because they were waiting for ROTK, then a "cumulative" award is more than justified. Not only do I feel that's a bad way to do it, because it is supposed to be about the film nominated this year and not any others, but it also paints them in a corner. What if ROTK turned out to be not worthy of Best Picture (as I and some others feel), then they have passed up honoring more deserving pictures in favor of giving the award to a lesser one just because they wanted to honor those first two. Just vote for the films and performers up this year and leave it at that.

[silentbob007]

and RotK for film editing ... guess the academy didn't see the ending, eh? ;)

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by jasonbird
Whats the new rule?

That music used in a sequel would not be eligable for awards because themes used are from the previous film/s/

[movielib]

It never even occurred to me before but if RoTK wins Song and Adapted Screenplay it could tie the record for the most Oscars ever (11) because it has a lock on Director and Picture!

[silentbob007]

Originally posted by badger1997
Not only do I feel that's a bad way to do it, because it is supposed to be about the film nominated this year and not any others, but it also paints them in a corner. What if ROTK turned out to be not worthy of Best Picture (as I and some others feel), then they have passed up honoring more deserving pictures in favor of giving the award to a lesser one just because they wanted to honor those first two. Just vote for the films and performers up this year and leave it at that.

The other way could paint them in a corner too ... considering if FotR won for best picture then turned out incredibly weak compared to another.

Anyway, you are right that it should be the best performance/ piece of the year, but we are talking about human voters here.

[Scot1458]

man, what I would'nt give to see Spinal Tap up there.

[jasonbird]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
That music used in a sequel would not be eligable for awards because themes used are from the previous film/s/
Don't know if this is fair. I own all three soundtracks and there's
a clear progresion of the music, and many new themes in each.

Jason

[Scot1458]

Hell! Michael McKean was right behind Guest! Is Harry Shear in the audience?

[badger1997]

The song from Triplets of Belleville is still my favorite song from any movie this year. Really no interest in seeing the film, not my cup of tea really, but from the time I saw the trailer with the song in it, I couldn't get it out of my head. Way better than anything else nominated.

The song from A Mighty Wind is a nice nod to the movie, but the song by itself really isn't anything special in my opinion.

[badger1997]

Wait a minute. My hearing just went wacky. Did I hear Will Ferrell and Jack Black mentioned during an Oscar telecast? Wow. This should be good. :)

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by jasonbird
Don't know if this is fair. I own all three soundtracks and there's
a clear progresion of the music, and many new themes in each.

Jason

I certainly agree. Aside from The Fellowship theme, there are many changes in each. However, last year Two Towers was not eligable for the score award. I suppose there was enough complaints to allow Shore in this time around.

* * *

As for a RINGS sweep. I am a bit leary on the screenplay award but, the way the night is going, a sweep seems to be what we are going to get.

[jasonbird]

Quick question about the best picture nom dvd's...

Which will be the next on dvd? Master and Commander?

[jasonbird]

Peolpe laughed when Will said 'Hello'

:lol:

[ViewAskewbian]

:lol: That was GREAT!!!!

[SunMonkey]

:lol: Will and Jack

[jasonbird]

By the way, not a bad idea to have Farrell host.

Jason

[silentbob007]

and Will and Jack prove that they would win the award because no one really cares about the others ....

[badger1997]

Music and lyric...by *hushed wonder* Sting!

Even had Jack cracking up. Too bad ROTK won for that one too. I personally had thought just about any of the other songs were better, but that's just me.

[jasonbird]

How many has LOTR won so far? 7?

[ViewAskewbian]

Alright Canadian cinema!!!!

It just occured to me, though, how our films in the US are Foreign yet here, in Canada, when we want to go and see, say, Spiderman we don't say "Hey, you wanna go see that US Foreign flick?"

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by jasonbird
How many has LOTR won so far? 7?

8

[jasonbird]

Do you think that this will boost the box office for LOTR, or do you
think that since it's a trilogy, the people that want to see it have
already seen it?

[ViewAskewbian]

That's it, folks, we have a SWEEP!!!!

[ClarkKentKY]

I just want to go ahead and Predict:

-Johnny Depp
-Peter Jackson
-Return of the King

If Lost in Translation wins any of those, I'm done with the Oscars forever. Worst movie I saw from last year.

[movielib]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
That's it, folks, we have a SWEEP!!!!
Yes, it's going to be 11 for 11 and tied for the most Oscars ever! What a great night!

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by ClarkKentKY
I just want to go ahead and Predict:

-Johnny Depp
-Peter Jackson
-Return of the King

If Lost in Translation wins any of those, I'm done with the Oscars forever. Worst movie I saw from last year.

Depp was great in POTC but, let's be honest, he has done many other films that were better acted. This award is either Penn's or Bill's.

[ViewAskewbian]

YEAH!!!

What a cheer when that was announced!

[badger1997]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
That's it, folks, we have a SWEEP!!!! Probably, and I get to go to bed early. Just getting way too boring and predictable for me with ROTK winning everything. :(

Hopefully by going to be early I will miss a Lost in Translation suprise win. :)

ClarkKentKY, you sure that isn't hyperbole? If it isn't you must have seen no stinkers this year. While i can see how Lost in Translation ain't everybody's cup of tea, did you not see things like Anger Management, Bad Boys II and several other real stinkers (at least in my opinion) this year?

[movielib]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
Depp was great in POTC but, let's be honest, he has done many other films that were better acted. This award is either Penn's or Bill's.
I would give it to Sir Ben but I know that's not going to happen.

[badger1997]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
Depp was great in POTC but, let's be honest, he has done many other films that were better acted. This award is either Penn's or Bill's. Didn't realize Depp was contending against his previous performances in this category.

[silentbob007]

Originally posted by badger1997
Probably, and I get to go to bed early. Just getting way too boring and predictable for me with ROTK winning everything....

I can see LotR losing best pic ... but it sure is becoming more doubtful with each award.

[badger1997]

Night all, congrats to all the ROTK supporters. I was pulling for Chicago last year so I know how fun it can be when your film comes through and earns well-deserved recognition....*wait for it*...

even if I don't feel the recognition is well-deserved this year. ;)

Congrats to Peter Jackson and everyone involved though. Though ROTK left me cold and mostly uninterested, the movies as a whole tell a great story and it really is a technical achievement.

[ClarkKentKY]

okay... I forgot about Anger Managment.

Lost in Translation: Worst NOMINATED FILM of last year. (That i've seen)

:)

[jasonbird]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
Depp was great in POTC but, let's be honest, he has done many other films that were better acted. This award is either Penn's or Bill's.
You could say the same about both Penn and Murray (IMO)

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by badger1997
Didn't realize Depp was contending against his previous performances in this category.

Of course he is. Everybody who acts always has to contend with their other works. All the time. Everybody.

Nawww, just joshin' ya. Never said he was contending with his previous stuff, I meant that Depp can do better and I don't think this performance is deserving of an Oscar. But, hey, that's just my...like...opinion man.

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Shore not eligable for the Award under new Oscar rules? (Hence why he was not nominated for the Two Towers)

INTO THE WEST wasn't in The two towers to my knowledge

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by jasonbird
You could say the same about both Penn and Murray (IMO)

HUmmm, maybe Penn (Sweet and Lowdown comes to mind) but certainly not Murray (his work in this film, in my mind, surpasses Rushmore). Again, just my two.

[matome]

Originally posted by jasonbird
Do you think that this will boost the box office for LOTR, or do you
think that since it's a trilogy, the people that want to see it have
already seen it?

I think you answered your own question. People who didn't have any interest in the first two installments will still have no interest in the last one, and everyone who wanted to see it has already. Besides Passion is the hot topic now, even if ROTK sweeps, since it's main Oscars were pretty much a given.

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
INTO THE WEST wasn't in The two towers to my knowledge

Score, dumbass. :p

[ClarkKentKY]

YES! Peter Jackson. :banana:

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
HUmmm, maybe Penn (Sweet and Lowdown comes to mind) but certainly not Murray (his work in this film, in my mind, surpasses Rushmore). Again, just my two.

that's because Comedies are seldomly even considered even though it takes the same amount of work to make you laugh as it does to make you cry.

Score or song, either way, it was composed for the film. does it have notes from the others. Yes, but it's a new score for a different film.

[ViewAskewbian]

To think, this guy made Meet the Feebles, Bad Taste and Dead Alive and now he has Oscar Gold. I like.

[jasonbird]

Personaly I think all the actors in the best actor catagory are very
deserving.

[Jackskeleton]

yes they are

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
that's because Comedies are seldomly even considered even though it takes the same amount of work to make you laugh as it does to make you cry.

Score or song, either way, it was composed for the film. does it have notes from the others. Yes, but it's a new score for a different film.

Agreed.

And, well, to it's credit (or discredit, if you wish) Gollum's Song wasn't nominated for Best Song for Two Towers. I'm not speaking of the songs, regardless, but of the fact that Two Towers' score could not be nominated under new Acadamy rules. It appears they changed this and I agree with the change.

We are agreeing?

This is the 1st sign of the Apocolypse. :p

[ClarkKentKY]

I smell an upset on Best Picture. Its been bugging me all day long. 11 for 11 seems too good to be true. I hope i'm wrong though.

Bill Murray has done much better than Lost in translation. He played Bill Murray through the whole movie. It didn't seem like acting at all. Depp was great, and really made POTC.

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
yes they are

Agreed again. Yikes! -eek-

[Jackskeleton]

I agree that you are in the wrong thread. as this one seems like a shadow compared to the one in tv talk. ;)

[Jackskeleton]

That's what happens when Halle opens the flood gates..

[ViewAskewbian]

Originally posted by ClarkKentKY
I smell an upset on Best Picture. Its been bugging me all day long. 11 for 11 seems too good to be true. I hope i'm wrong though.

Bill Murray has done much better than Lost in translation. He played Bill Murray through the whole movie. It didn't seem like acting at all. Depp was great, and really made POTC.

Naww, I don't agree that he played Bill Murray in this film. Though I usually don't care for him, I believe Roger Ebert said it best when he wrote:

"Bill Murray has never been better. He doesn't play "Bill Murray" or any other conventional idea of a movie star, but invents Bob Harris from the inside out, as a man both happy and sad with his life -- stuck, but resigned to being stuck."

He adds:

" He always stays in character. He is always Bob Harris, who could be funny, who could be the life of the party, who could do impressions in the karaoke bar and play games with the director of the TV commercial, but doesn't -- because being funny is what he does for a living, and right now he is too tired and sad to do it for free. Except ... a little. That's where you see the fine-tuning of Murray's performance. In a subdued, fond way, he gives us wry faint comic gestures, as if to show what he could do, if he wanted to."

Again, not much of an Ebert fan but I agree with him here.

[jasonbird]

So far there have been NO surprises right?

Except maybe for LOTR adapted screenplay?

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by jasonbird
So far there have been NO surprises right?

Except maybe for LOTR adapted screenplay?

If you were surprised by that one...

[movielib]

Originally posted by ClarkKentKY
I smell an upset on Best Picture. Its been bugging me all day long. 11 for 11 seems too good to be true. I hope i'm wrong though.
...
No way will RotK lose. Take it to the bank.

[Jackskeleton]

Yup. it's a lock.

[jasonbird]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
If you were surprised by that one...
My thought was if there was one they could lose, that would be
the one. However, of the movies I saw in the catogory LOTR
was at least as good as the rest.

Jason

[jasonbird]

Sean Penn? Best Actor?
He's the front runner right?

[jasonbird]

Standing O?

[jasonbird]

YES!

[Scot1458]

Return of the King.

**** it.

[jasonbird]

LOTR:ROTK, Titanic and Ben Hur tied with 11 wins!

[onebyone]

Sean Penn?

I feel deflated.

[Frank TJ Mackey]

good for Sean Penn. long overdue.

he's given many great performances and that's
why he got a standing O.

I respect Jackson and the LOTR trilogy, it is a remarkable achievement, but to give it every award is really a joke.

It screws over all the nominees this year. Best Screenplay? Please, that's ridiculous.

What about the last 2 LOTR films, the first one should've won big awards, but they save it for last.

Oh well, can't have em all your way.

[outcastja]

Time for Curb

[fumanstan]

Dissapointed in most of the awards, particularly Best Actor.

[Giles]

WOW, what a dull and predictable show.

the best parts where the beginning (Billy Crystal montage) and the TRIPLETS OF BELVILLE song.

[jasonbird]

Good show. Billy Crystal did a good job. Congrats to LOTR and
to all the winners.

Night everybody!

[fnordboy]

Nice move to slam your old movies Peter :up:


-rolleyes-

[chanster]

Rings sweep just shows how weak the competition was this year.

Sad to see Murray not win.

[Jackskeleton]

The reason the first two didn't win is because of the oscar menatlity to delay an award. if it's known that next year they will have a chance, they give it to them the following year. Why waste a vote on something that has a shot the next year?

[Kal-El]

They should just get Billy Crystal to do this every year.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally posted by chanster
Rings sweep just shows how weak the competition was this year.

Sad to see Murray not win.

Sean Penn deserved his Oscar 100%. Period!

[matome]

Poor Bill. :(

[Jepthah]

Never. never. never, in my wildest dreams, did I ever think ROTK would SWEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!

By Eru and all the Valar!!!!!!!!!!

I have been reading these books since I was 8 years old and now....

"The World Is Changed..."

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Thank you, ROTK cast, crew, and executives...

Wow.

[JetSter735180]

Originally posted by pro-bassoonist
Sean Penn deserved his Oscar 100%. Period!

Agreed!

[fnordboy]

Originally posted by pro-bassoonist
Sean Penn deserved his Oscar 100%. Period!
:up: exactly.

[wmansir]

Let's check the score...

Originally posted by wmansir
Best Picture: LOTR:ROTK Right
Best Director: Peter Jackson Right
Best Actor: Sean Penn Right
Best Actress: Charlize Theron Right
Best Supporting Actor: Tim Robbins Right
Best Supporting Actress: Shohreh Aghdashloo Wrong
Best Screenplay (adapted): LOTR:ROTK Right
Best Screenplay (original): Lost in Translation Right


Not too bad. I went against the odds with Aghdashloo, and this wasn't the year to do that as the favorites cleaned up.

[KSC2-303]

Man, what bullsh*t.

I'd say LotR deserved maybe half of those awards. I knew it was a complete farce when it won best editing.

How could a movie where everyone universally agrees it's riddled with false endings that go on 20 minutes longer than it should?

Sean Penn winning best actor was a disappointment, being the self-righteous "I know better than you" prick that he is. His performance was great, but was second to Murray. Considering that Murray deserved it more for past AND present performances pissed me off when Penn won.

And the LotR sweep...well, if LotR was so frickin' great, how come it didn't sweep for the prior two movies?

I'm chalking it up to lack of competition and complacency.

[sinister]

replace lost in translation with last samurai cause it wasn't that good.

[movielib]

Originally posted by KSC2-303
Man, what bullsh*t.

I'd say LotR deserved maybe half of those awards. I knew it was a complete farce when it won best editing.

How could a movie where everyone universally agrees it's riddled with false endings that go on 20 minutes longer than it should?
...
Everybody doesn't agree with this. I thought the last 20 minutes were great. I knew how it was supposed to end and that's how it ended.

[Jackskeleton]

And the LotR sweep...well, if LotR was so frickin' great, how come it didn't sweep for the prior two movies?

Because they didnt treat the other two like they did with this one. They are treating this as a sum of all three. They didn't vote for those other two because they felt they can easily vote for them the following year. put off the vote so they could go for the next best thing

[movielib]

Originally posted by pro-bassoonist
Sean Penn deserved his Oscar 100%. Period!
I thought Ben Kingsley deserved it but Sean was my #2. Way ahead of Murray.

[Giles]

Originally posted by pro-bassoonist
Sean Penn deserved his Oscar 100%. Period!

I personally thought Ben Kingsly did a better acting job.

[covenant]

Originally posted by KSC2-303

And the LotR sweep...well, if LotR was so frickin' great, how come it didn't sweep for the prior two movies?

I'm chalking it up to lack of competition and complacency.

The Academy waited until the 3rd film to award the entire Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Well deserved I'd say.

[KSC2-303]

Originally posted by movielib
Everybody doesn't agree with this. I thought the last 20 minutes were great. I knew how it was supposed to end and that's how it ended.

Oh, I'm sorry. Only the vast majority do.

Let me put it this way. It's got enough popular opinion to pretty much knock it out of contention to win.

I mean, I'm not the first person who has said that RotK had too many false endings and went on too long, am I?

[covenant]

But does the false endings ruin the entire Trilogy? I think not....
Peter Jackson was simply giving the fans their moneys worth. Your not one of them, let it go.

[sinister]

penn deserved it but to think depp didn't deserve one for fear and loathing is as bad as denzel beating out crowe 2 years ago. the actress category was weak this year.

[DVD-ho78(DTS)]

"Is that my daughter in there!?! Is that my daughter in there!?!"

That line gives me chills when I hear it.

[movielib]

Originally posted by KSC2-303
Oh, I'm sorry. Only the vast majority do.

Let me put it this way. It's got enough popular opinion to pretty much knock it out of contention to win.

I mean, I'm not the first person who has said that RotK had too many false endings and went on too long, am I?
Not at all. I just think you're all wrong. :)

[Giles]

Originally posted by KSC2-303

I'd say LotR deserved maybe half of those awards. I knew it was a complete farce when it won best editing.

How could a movie where everyone universally agrees it's riddled with false endings that go on 20 minutes longer than it should?



or even the fact that the story felt very trunscated when one is aware that an expanded edition is slated for video release later this year.

Howard Shore, best music, whatever, the music on the whole is the most flawed aspect for me.

[drjay]

I am a huge fan or LotR, but I thought there were some other great films this year which were overlooked. Say what you will, but I thought Big Fish and 21 Grams should've been on the list for Best Picture. I think it was the right move for the Academy to wait till the 3rd LotR movie, but unfortunately it fell on a year where there were also alot of other great films, both in terms of entertainment value and critical appeal.

I'm not sure if I'm asking for punishment here, but I'm curious as to who liked Master & Commander? I thought it was absolutely terrible and a waste of $6. Even my two friends who were looking forward ot it eagerly thought it was awful. Maybe we have a sickness or something, but aside from editing/special effects/costumes, I thought it sucked. Not entertaining in the least IMHO.

[darkessenz]

Just happy that Tolkien got props in the final thankyou
STeve

[Giles]

Erol Morris (Fog of War) came across as a real pretentious ego-minded git.

I really don't care that the Academy or the Independent Spirit Awards thought that this was the best docu film of last year, I didn't think so.

[Giles]

Originally posted by drjay
I

I'm not sure if I'm asking for punishment here, but I'm curious as to who liked Master & Commander? I thought it was absolutely terrible and a waste of $6. Even my two friends who were looking forward ot it eagerly thought it was awful. Maybe we have a sickness or something, but aside from editing/special effects/costumes, I thought it sucked. Not entertaining in the least IMHO.

I agree.

[Binger]

Originally posted by Giles
Erol Morris (Fog of War) came across as a real pretentious ego-minded git.

Maybe it's common in documentary directors (Michael Moore) and best actors (Penn).

[brizz]

I sure could go for some wings right now...oh well....

11 for 11....incredible...

[covenant]

Originally posted by Giles
Erol Morris (Fog of War) came across as a real pretentious ego-minded git.

I really don't care that the Academy or the Independent Spirit Awards thought that this was the best docu film of last year, I didn't think so.

And attempting to draw a parallel between Vietnam and the Iraq war...-ohbfrank-

[movielib]

Originally posted by drjay

...
I'm not sure if I'm asking for punishment here, but I'm curious as to who liked Master & Commander? I thought it was absolutely terrible and a waste of $6. Even my two friends who were looking forward ot it eagerly thought it was awful. Maybe we have a sickness or something, but aside from editing/special effects/costumes, I thought it sucked. Not entertaining in the least IMHO.
I liked it a lot, especially when they got to the Galapagos Islands. I thought the pre-Darwinian stuff was great. Not the best movie of the year but deserving of its Best Picture nomination.

[RyoHazuki]

My thoughts:

:thumbsup: to Robbins. Didn't ruin his good speech with "Um......**** you president Bush."

:thumbsup: Billy Crystal. He did a great job.

:thumbsup: to Jack Black and Will Ferrel. Very funny.


:thmbsdwn: to that Fog of War goofass. Lousy speech, came off like a total snob.

:thmbsdwn: to Jim Carrey for being an attnhor once again.

:thmbsdwn: to Sean Penn's WMD comment.

[William Fuld]

Originally posted by twikoff
what is that thing sting is playing?

It was a hurdy-gurdy.

[brizz]

Originally posted by covenant
And attempting to draw a parallel between Vietnam and the Iraq war...-ohbfrank-

yeah...how farfetched -rolleyes-

[KSC2-303]

Originally posted by covenant
And attempting to draw a parallel between Vietnam and the Iraq war...-ohbfrank-

There is a parallel.

Both Vietnam and the Iraqi war are not very popular in public opinion, but were forced on us by politicians.

But that can be said about pretty much every war, except WW2.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally posted by Binger
Maybe it's common in documentary directors (Michael Moore) and best actors (Penn).

maybe you could explain to us your statement....I thought that Sean Penn acted great. Jude Law on the other hand was acting a bit off.

Perhaps, you are unhappy with Sean Penn's political stance, no?....as I could see that you place him with Michael Moore.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally posted by covenant
And attempting to draw a parallel between Vietnam and the Iraq war...-ohbfrank-

it thought that it was a very wll drawn parallel. As already was pointed to you....war is not popular regardless how you look at it. Perhaps you disagree?

[KSC2-303]

Originally posted by pro-bassoonist
maybe you could explain to us your statement....I thought that Sean Penn acted great. Jude Law on the other hand was acting a bit off.

Perhaps, you are unhappy with Sean Penn's political stance, no?....as I could see that you place him with Michael Moore.

He wasn't talking about their acting ability, just how they feel the necessity to "inform" the public about their opinion on politics at the moment.

He was saying Errols came off like a prick when he got on stage, just like Sean Penn (last year moreso than this year) and Michael Moore.

[covenant]

Originally posted by KSC2-303
There is a parallel.

Both Vietnam and the Iraqi war are not very popular in public opinion, but were forced on us by politicians.


Considering the President's approval ratings throughout the war and the publics specific approval of the war itself, I'm not sure what your talking about....

[drjay]

Originally posted by covenant
And attempting to draw a parallel between Vietnam and the Iraq war...-ohbfrank-

I agree he came across as egotistical, but I think he meant well.

As for comparing to Vietnam: I've been reading articles and newsbriefs the AP has been ignoring about reinstating the draft, and I must say I feel pretty scurred, being 20 and in my sophomore year of college. I don't know, I think something has to call the rest of the country's attention to just how imperialistic we've become. Sorry for the :crap:

[Dave Scarpa]

Originally posted by covenant
And attempting to draw a parallel between Vietnam and the Iraq war...-ohbfrank-

Yeah you'll have to wait a few more years for that one.

[Dave Scarpa]

Originally posted by drjay
I agree he came across as egotistical, but I think he meant well.

As for comparing to Vietnam: I've been reading articles and newsbriefs the AP has been ignoring about reinstating the draft, and I must say I feel pretty scurred, being 20 and in my sophomore year of college. I don't know, I think something has to call the rest of the country's attention to just how imperialistic we've become. Sorry for the :crap:

When the media is as slanted as it is right now don't count on this happenning, but if you look around the internet carefully enough you can find the real truth.

[KSC2-303]

Originally posted by covenant
Considering the President's approval ratings throughout the war and the publics specific approval of the war itself, I'm not sure what your talking about....

His approval rating was about 80% or so when the war started.

I'd have to say that approval rating plummeted after no WMD were found in either planning or implementation, and the fact our soldiers are still dying after the war is "over".

Last I heard it was more along the lines of 40%~ now.

[digitalfreaknyc]

My God was that the worst Oscars I possibly have ever watched. Totally and completely unfunny and uninteresting. Here's to hoping that next years is better and has some better movies to root for. :(

[KSC2-303]

Originally posted by digitalfreaknyc
My God was that the worst Oscars I possibly have ever watched. Totally and completely unfunny and uninteresting. Here's to hoping that next years is better and has some better movies to root for. :(

I concur.

A lot of those laughs at Crystal were more out of pity than actual humor.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally posted by KSC2-303
His approval rating was about 80% or so when the war started.

I'd have to say that approval rating plummeted after no WMD were found in either planning or implementation, and the fact our soldiers are still dying after the war is "over".

Last I heard it was more along the lines of 40%~ now.

precisely....a rating based on "facts" indicating the existence of WMD. Now, that we all know that such were not present...ratings are....(flash)different.

[mllefoo]

Jim Carrey looked like a chemo patient. Why would he shave all his hair like that?

I was disappointed to see Johnny Depp lose the award because I think he's a terrific actor and I'd definitely not kick him out of bed for eating crackers. Oh well, Sean Penn's a local boy, so I guess it's good he gets his due.

[covenant]

Originally posted by KSC2-303
His approval rating was about 80% or so when the war started.

I'd have to say that approval rating plummeted after no WMD were found in either planning or implementation, and the fact our soldiers are still dying after the war is "over".

Last I heard it was more along the lines of 40%~ now.

December 2003:

63% approve of Bush's foreign policy (up from 53% at the beginning of the month)
Overall approval rating: 59% (up from 53% two weeks ago)
70% of respondants believe Iraq was important to the war on terror, not a distraction

February 2003

49% saying it was worth going to war in Iraq and 49% saying it was not worth going to war. This is the first time that Gallup has found support for the war in Iraq to be below 50%

Slipping, but no where near the 30-something % Johnson and Nixon enjoyed during Vietnam.

[KSC2-303]

Originally posted by pro-bassoonist
precisely....a rating based on "facts" indicating the existence of WMD. Now, that we all know that such were not present...ratings are....(flash)different.

I don't want to get into a whole thing with you, but what the Hell are you trying to prove?

Someone said they don't see the similarities between Vietnam and Iraq, and I said there are vague similarities, they were both unpopular.

Just because we were lied to and it was popular UNTIL we found out the truth doesn't make it a popular war.

In 20 years, this war won't be remembered as "the war everyone wanted", but as "the war we were lied to to start that continued because of politics".

[B.A.]

Glad to see Master and Commander pick up a couple of awards.

I wish the Sheridans would have won instead of Sofia.

An upset by Depp would have been hilarious, but I just had a feeling it would come down to Penn or Murray - too bad Bill didn't win - it might have been the most interesting and humorous part of the evening.

That damn show is too freaking long.

[Dubya]

I was glad Sean Penn got in the WMD comment since he took so much criticism for his stance against the war, but more importantly it was nice to see him win a well deserved oscar.

I don't get the whole "we will wait and reward LOTR after the final one comes out" thinking. By that rationale should they have not given "The Godfather" best picture and just waited until <ahem> the third one? ;) It seems like the fix was in for this picture three years ago. It didn't matter if the second coming of Citizen Kane was released last year, LOTR was not going to be denied.

[Groucho]

Originally posted by mllefoo
Jim Carrey looked like a chemo patient. Why would he shave all his hair like that?Probably because he's playing this guy:

http://www.lemonysnicket.com/images/art/olaf_circle.gif

As for all the political shit, take it to the Other forum, y'all.

[covenant]

Originally posted by KSC2-303
In 20 years, this war won't be remembered as "the war everyone wanted", but as "the war we were lied to to start that continued because of politics".

Thank you Nostradamus-rolleyes-

[onebyone]

Originally posted by Giles
I personally thought Ben Kingsly did a better acting job.

I thought the only person Sean Penn outacted in the best actor category was Jude Law, and even that one was close.

[RayChuang]

Please stop doing this :crap: to this message thread! Take the politics to the Other forum, please?

But getting back on-topic, I was just AMAZED that The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King took 11 out of 11 Oscars. -eek- You'd think they'll give some of the techical awards to other movies, but....

I believe this may be the first time that a movie nominated for so many Oscars took them all.

[KSC2-303]

Originally posted by B.A.
Glad to see Master and Commander pick up a couple of awards.

I wish the Sheridans would have won instead of Sofia.

An upset by Depp would have been hilarious, but I just had a feeling it would come down to Penn or Murray - too bad Bill didn't win - it might have been the most interesting and humorous part of the evening.

That damn show is too freaking long.

Depp deserves an Oscar, but not for "pirates".

And Bill would have been such a worthy (and ratings wise, entertaining) winner.

Yes, the show went on far too long. Some catagories should have been on the Sciences and Technology Academy Awards 2 weeks ago. Some of them shouldn't have been presented at all (MTV takes the lesser awards early and not part of the main show, a better idea).

I was waiting for a "best catering service" award.

[movielib]

Originally posted by Dubya
I was glad Sean Penn got in the WMD comment since he took so much criticism for his stance against the war, but more importantly it was nice to see him win a well deserved oscar.

I don't get the whole "we will wait and reward LOTR after the final one comes out" thinking. By that rationale should they have not given "The Godfather" best picture and just waited until <ahem> the third one? ;) It seems like the fix was in for this picture three years ago. It didn't matter if the second coming of Citizen Kane was released last year, LOTR was not going to be denied.
No one knew there would be a second Godfather picture, let alone a third one.

Personally, I think RotK was the best of the three and a good case could be made for every award it won, just on the basis of that film itself. Furthermore, how could it not have been nominated for Cinematography?

[pro-bassoonist]

what I was indicating is that giving president's ratings as a premise to base your political parallel on...well, seems a rather poor choice, BECAUSE at the time the polls were conducted the nation was under the assunption that WMD were indeed present.

So, I dont see what is the problem if some of the actors tonight chose to express their opinion (or give a hint) regarding what actually happened. To say that Sean Penn is arrogant because of this is rather...well, a poor choice. In the context of this statement I dont think that anyone could say that there isn't a parallelbetween Iraq and Vietnam- both unpopular wars. That's all.

With other words I actually wanted to support your claim :)

[covenant]

I expected LOTR to maybe get Best Director and maybe Best Movie...but all the other stuff should of been spread out a little amongst the other movies. (even tho LOTR did great in those categories also).

In a way I feel bad for all the other good movies that should have gotten something out of the deal besides: "nominated for an academy award on it's dvd cover.

[movielib]

Originally posted by RayChuang

...
I believe this may be the first time that a movie nominated for so many Oscars took them all.
Right. Titanic won 11 out of 14 and Ben-Hur won 11 out of 12.

[Giles]

getting back to the "Fog of War" while the message retains that wars (specifically the Vietnam War) can be manufactured for the gains of other countries and governments (ie, the US). I thought "The Weather Underground" was a far more powerful movie, which in my opinion was a better overall "F**k the government" film, that demonstrated the pros and cons of civilian outcry against US bullying. Should be suitable viewing to the recent fascist tactics and characterists of what Bush has become.

[drjay]

Originally posted by onebyone
I thought the only person Sean Penn outacted in the best actor category was Jude Law, and even that one was close.

I thought Penn outacted Murray. Perhaps it was because Murray's performance was SO good, but I kind of felt like he was playing himself in the movie. I mean he's kind of washed up, hasn't done many movies lately, and I could see him doing ads or something. I don't know, perhaps he just convinced me with his performance that that is how he really is.

Originally posted by Giles
getting back to the "Fog of War" while the message retains that wars (specifically the Vietnam War) can be manufactured for the gains of other countries and governments (ie, the US). I thought "The Weather Underground" was a far more powerful movie, which in my opinion was a better overall "F**k the government" film, that demonstrated the pros and cons of civilian outcry against US bullying. Should be suitable viewing to the recent fascist tactics and characterists of what Bush has become.


I totally agree! I loved The Weather Underground and thought it happened (or perhaps was meant) to come at a very good time in terms of the political environment.

[Giles]

Originally posted by onebyone
I thought the only person Sean Penn outacted in the best actor category was Jude Law, and even that one was close.

the only word that comes to mind in regards to Sean Penn's acting is:

overacting.

[KSC2-303]

Originally posted by pro-bassoonist
what I was indicating is that giving president's ratings as a premise to base your political parallel on...well, seems a rather poor choice, BECAUSE at the time the polls were conducted the nation was under the assunption that WMD were indeed present.

So, I dont see what is the problem if some of the actors tonight chose to express their opinion (or give a hint) regarding what actually happened. To say that Sean Penn is arrogant because of this is rather...well, a poor choice. In the context of this statement I dont think that anyone could say that there isn't a parallelbetween Iraq and Vietnam- both unpopular wars. That's all.

I really don't see a point in your argument. I didn't say I approve or disapprove of Bush, yet you make it sound like I say "Well, since he's unpopular, I don't like him!" All I said was that Iraq and Vietnam are similar in popularity because someone said there is no similarity. But let's just drop it.

I said Sean Penn is arrogant because he's a typical Hollywood elitist. He feels the need to "educate" the people with his opinion, which he's entitled to, but the reality is this is the Academy Awards and not Das Politikal Open Mic Night. I'm not insulting him because I disagree, I'm insulting him because it's not his place to spew out his opinions like verbal diahhrea.

You won an award. Thank God, thank your family and friends. Thank the film crew.

Don't sit there and tell us about the world as you see it. This is the 76th Annual Academy Awards, not The O'Reilly Factor with you as host.

[covenant]

Agreed!!

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally posted by KSC2-303
I really don't see a point in your argument. I didn't say I approve or disapprove of Bush, yet you make it sound like I say "Well, since he's unpopular, I don't like him!" All I said was that Iraq and Vietnam are similar in popularity because someone said there is no similarity. But let's just drop it.

I said Sean Penn is arrogant because he's a typical Hollywood elitist. He feels the need to "educate" the people with his opinion, which he's entitled to, but the reality is this is the Academy Awards and not Das Politikal Open Mic Night. I'm not insulting him because I disagree, I'm insulting him because it's not his place to spew out his opinions like verbal diahhrea.

You won an award. Thank God, thank your family and friends. Thank the film crew.

Don't sit there and tell us about the world as you see it. This is the 76th Annual Academy Awards, not The O'Reilly Factor with you as host.

This is not what I was talking about at all. I was directing my remarks towards the people that criticized the actors that seem to have some active political stance.

So, let's just drop it. This is a night for films. I dont want to get into politics (AND I was not the one that brought up the war parallel, etc).

Cheers.

[eXcentris]

I'm not sure what is more odd, ROTK winning 11 Oscars or people posting during the Oscars. Are all you guys locked up alone in a room with a tv and a keyboard? :lol:

[B.A.]

Originally posted by movielib
RotK...Furthermore, how could it not have been nominated for Cinematography? it won the Visual Effects award if that's any concilation. The picture was more effects-driven than photography-driven anyhow.

[movielib]

Originally posted by eXcentris
I'm not sure what is more odd, ROTK winning 11 Oscars or people posting during the Oscars. Are all you guys locked up alone in a room with a tv and a keyboard? :lol:
There are these things called commercials and also long, boring stretches where no awards are given. :)

[Giles]

no justing running in between the computer room and the den at all those commercial breaks, and the fact that one didn't really need to watch the show but listen to it.

[movielib]

Originally posted by B.A.
it won the Visual Effects award if that's any concilation. The picture was more effects-driven than photography-driven anyhow.
Still, plenty of amazing shots both expansive and intimate. I just don't see how it was not one of the five best of the year.

FotR won for Cinematography. Was this one any less?

[eXcentris]

Not watch? With all that cleavage? Blasphemy! :)

Giles, is that other documentary you mentionned on DVD?

[B.A.]

Originally posted by movielib
Still, plenty of amazing shots both expansive and intimate. I just don't see how it was not one of the five best of the year.

FotR won for Cinematography. Was this one any less? Maybe that's why it did not get nominated because FotR already won it. In hindsight - if any of the three were to win the cinematography award, I'm glad Fellowship did. RotK was the worst-looking of the three, imo. There were plenty of films that looked better than RotK - I agreed w/ several that were nominated (for example: M&C; Cold Mountain).

[Giles]

Originally posted by eXcentris
Not watch? With all that cleavage? Blasphemy! :)

Giles, is that other documentary you mentionned on DVD?

well, I actually watched a good 6/8th of the show - the very end lost my attention.

I actually caught "The Weather Underground" at Visions Theatre last Friday. Not sure when the DVD is scheduled for release. And for the record my favourite docu film of last year was "My Architect".

[movielib]

Originally posted by B.A.
Maybe that's why it did not win because FotR did. RotK was the worst-looking of the three, imo. There were plenty of films that looked better than RotK - I agreed w/ several that were nominated (for example: M&C; Cold Mountain).
I think it looked just as good as the other two (but TTT wasn't nominated either). I didn't say it should have won, just that it should have been nominated.

Although if it had been nominated, it probably would have won. :lol:

Edit: perhaps my above post might be interpreted to say that since FotR won, RotK should have also because I asked if it was any less. But I did not intend to imply that.

[Giles]

hands down my favourite film for cinematography was "Girl with the Pearl Earring"

[B.A.]

Originally posted by movielib
I didn't say it should have won, just that it should have been nominated. fixed my post.

[Original Desmond]

ROTK yay !

[Original Desmond]

I'm a Lord of the Rings nuthugger and damm proud of it !

[Giles]

what was up with that jab at Sandra Bullock being late comment (sound awards), that seemed very odd.

[Giles]

and Liv, those earrings did not complent your glasses,

[Giles]

the Blake Edwards stunt seemed slightly disturbing to watch, the camera reaction of the crowd made them seem equally perplexed by it.

[Doctor Gonzo]

anyone know who the lead singer was who performed the nominated song from the triplets of belville?

[wmansir]

Originally posted by eXcentris
I'm not sure what is more odd, ROTK winning 11 Oscars or people posting during the Oscars. Are all you guys locked up alone in a room with a tv and a keyboard? :lol:

You must not go in the sports forum often, it's a weekly event there (when the good sports are playing :) )

Myself, I have a TV card in my computer so while I'm working on my computer I watch tv in the corner, and since I'm already at my computer I might as well post. :)

[The Zizz]

Originally posted by covenant
And attempting to draw a parallel between Vietnam and the Iraq war...-ohbfrank-

He said 40 years ago we did ____...the parallel was supposed to be between the current situation and the situation near the start of the vietnam war, not between now and 1969 in vietnam. He was trying to say that we don't want this to turn into vietnam, not that the current campaign in iraq is just like vietnam.

[drjay]

Originally posted by eXcentris
Giles, is that other documentary you mentionned on DVD?

I just looked around, since i saw Underground last fall, and I found this:
http://www.upstatefilms.org/weather/contact.html
I guess you can already get it on DVD if you don't mind spending $265! Hah.

[Mr. Self Destruct]

Well..my final thoughts on the Oscar's:
- Catherine Zeta-Jones is unbelievably hot, as were most of the women that presented
- I thought Bill Murray deserved the best actor award, since it will be awhile before he may get another chance
- The Bankie Edwards part was surprisingly interesting. Especially the part about the "FOES"--because even when competing at art school--it holds so true
- LOTR deserved its night
- The Triplets of Belville song was amazing--I gotta go see it since its playing around here (where can I hear it again?)
- I thought Liv Tyler looked even cuter with the glasses (but I really like the glasses look)