I watched the pilot and said, "This show STINKS!" gimmie PTI.
So about 2 months ago I start watching again and it starts growing on me but I keep thinking how much I dislike Max Kellerman. Then today I watch and Stat Boy (Tony) is hosting and although I do like him a lot, Kellerman is a much better host for ATH after seeing him host the show. The only thing I just can't STAND is when Kellerman says "Next Topic!" and does the Arseno Hall woo woo woo arm flying thing. WTF is that?
So anyone else give up on ATH and then come back?
lisadoris
02-05-04, 08:24 PM
I've always liked ATH; I think it's a funny show. I also like Stat Boy but I have to say he is just not been doing a good job this week. Halfway through Tuesday's episode I stopped watching and won't come back until Kellerman does.
Dr_Evil
02-05-04, 08:48 PM
I like ATH better then PTI. With Stat Boy in this week you can see what a good job Kellerman does of keeping things under control, and keeping things interesting. I don't think Stat Boy is doing a bad job, it just shows you how tough it is to do a good job hosting a show like this, with 4 very opinionated people trying to shout over each other.
As for why I think it's better then PTI, Wilbon and Tony go off on tangents too much and don't have much meaningful discussion about any of the topics. At least with ATH, you get some good discussion on the issues and usually a few different viewpoints on the situation.
Jericho
02-05-04, 10:05 PM
I also like Kellerman, and he has a pretty good handle on a lot of sports. Some of the other guys on the show are morons though. I can laugh at them some, but it gets old quick. Still not bad, but I think they would do better w/ some better sportswriter/journalists
eatntae
02-06-04, 02:19 AM
Stat Boy (Tony Reali) gives points more often and mutes less often than Max. Those scores are piling up by the time they get to "Out of Bounds" (where its all in bounds). I'm guessing Max is coming back next week since Callishaw(sp?) said "Are you here all week?"
BTW, I loved the show since it came out, but I like PTI just a little more.
cdollaz
02-06-04, 09:30 AM
I like to hear them pick on Woody Paige. Rarely can he make it 10 seconds into a show without getting muted.
lisadoris
02-06-04, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Dr_Evil
I like ATH better then PTI. With Stat Boy in this week you can see what a good job Kellerman does of keeping things under control, and keeping things interesting. I don't think Stat Boy is doing a bad job, it just shows you how tough it is to do a good job hosting a show like this, with 4 very opinionated people trying to shout over each other.
I agree with your points for the most part. My problem is, when Stat Boy subbed on ATH previously, I think he did just fine. For some reason, I just think this week has been particuarly lacking.
tofu
02-06-04, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by cdollaz
I like to hear them pick on Woody Paige. Rarely can he make it 10 seconds into a show without getting muted.
I love the times that they gang up on him. It's great. It's just like the new segment on NBA Fast Break where they bring in all 7 NBA correspondents and they gang up on Marc Stein or Ric Bucher. Great stuff.
Josh H
02-06-04, 02:22 PM
I've never been able to get into it much. It would be more interesting if they rotated more writers in. I get sick of the same people as none of them are particularly interesting like Wilbon and Kornheiser IMO.
Lara Means
02-06-04, 10:26 PM
Around the Horn is a good show. Woody Paige is my hero.
Quake1028
02-06-04, 11:20 PM
Around the Horn is > PTI, but just barely :).
guildda
02-06-04, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by eatntae
Stat Boy (Tony Reali) gives points more often and mutes less often than Max. Those scores are piling up by the time they get to "Out of Bounds" (where its all in bounds). I'm guessing Max is coming back next week since Callishaw(sp?) said "Are you here all week?"
BTW, I loved the show since it came out, but I like PTI just a little more.
Thanks for the info. I hope he works out a new contract with ESPN; the show doesn't seem as lively without him.
Quake1028
02-07-04, 12:13 PM
If ESPN doesn't bring Max back, I will never watch that channel again. Losing Rich Eisen was bad enough.
RayChuang
02-07-04, 11:28 PM
By the way, I was noticing that Kellerman was "muting" Jay Mariotti of the Chicago Sun-Times almost as much as Woody Paige just before Kellerman went on leave from ESPN.
Kellerman was the perfect host for that show, because his amped up speaking style was perfect for that show. Tony Riali is just a bit too laid back in style and speaks with an annoying whiney voice.
But I definitely love Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon going at it on Pardon the Interruption. :) People don't realize that that's how they talk at the Washington Post Sports desk, too. -rolleyes-
collven
02-08-04, 05:15 AM
I prefer PTI as well. I nearly fell off my couch laughing last Monday's episode after the Super Bowl when Tony mentioned the Cialis commercial. Who knew the term "4 hour erection" could be so funny. Well, let me take that back...
kantonburg
02-08-04, 07:14 PM
I wish they would take the scores down so Max couldn't see who had what. I'm sure he'll bump a few points here and there to make who he wants to win each day.
I do hope they resolve his contract soon.
PJsig08
02-08-04, 09:49 PM
Hate this show.
atari2600
02-08-04, 11:08 PM
i love ATH!
Blake
02-09-04, 01:04 AM
I've always loved Around The Horn - unfortunately, I rarely ever get to watch it here on the Left Coast. I only catch PTI because it's broadcast on ESPN Radio at 4pm which I can usually catch.
kantonburg
02-09-04, 09:28 PM
Ah another reason to love the EASTSIDE!
Blake
02-09-04, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by kantonburg
Ah another reason to love the EASTSIDE! I guess missing ATH is ok so I don't have to stay up past midnight to watch Sunday night NFL games, and tons of other games. When I was in Florida over the summer, it sucked to try and stay up to watch the Sportscenter that finally has all the results on. Here it's just on at 10pm...not 1am :)
Quake1028
02-09-04, 11:54 PM
Can't stay up until 2am? Wuss.
;)
lisadoris
02-10-04, 07:25 AM
Does anybody know how the ratings are doing since Kellerman's departure?
Blake
02-10-04, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Quake1028
Can't stay up until 2am? Wuss.
;) I can since I'm a student now, but I wouldn't want to do it every day when I've got a full time job ;)
Mad Dawg
02-10-04, 12:45 PM
I disliked the show early on, but I began to really enjoy it several months ago. It's no PTI, but it is a solid lead-in to the main event.
But that's with Max. For crying out loud, pay Max or get a better host soon. Max, take the money. Anyone...just save us.
Stat Boy is just Stat Boy.
Da Thrilla
02-10-04, 02:57 PM
They BETTER bring back Kellerman! Stat Boy isn't quite cutting the mustard. He should stay on PTI!
Dubya
02-13-04, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Da Thrilla
They BETTER bring back Kellerman! Stat Boy isn't quite cutting the mustard. He should stay on PTI!
I read in Wednesday's USA Today that ESPN announced they were parting ways with Kellerman. He wanted a raise to $850,000 a year and they passed. He is expected to go to Fox Sports. It did not say if stat boy will be the permanent replacement.
Mad Dawg
02-13-04, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Dubya
I read in Wednesday's USA Today that ESPN announced they were parting ways with Kellerman. He wanted a raise to $850,000 a year and they passed. He is expected to go to Fox Sports. It did not say if stat boy will be the permanent replacement.
:mad:
Unbelievable. Depending on what they were paying him previously, I'd probably pass as well. When you go into negotiations with ESPN, you'd better seriously consider your options. I don't think they are in a position to have to bend very much.
Reali cannot continue as host for much longer. Hopefully, they'll be finding a more suitable replacement shortly.
lisadoris
02-13-04, 04:02 PM
Well that sucks big time. I guess I was right to remove ATH from my season pass list the other day. If ESPN wasn't going to match Fox Sports' offer and didn't want Stat Boy to be the permanent host, you'd think they would have tried out some other hosts of the past two weeks.
You'd think with the extra money the network held on to by ditching Playmakers they could have given Kellerman a raise.
Quake1028
02-13-04, 07:24 PM
Well, I am never watching ESPN again. Good riddance.
Da Thrilla
02-13-04, 09:21 PM
DAMN IT!!!!!
That is Kellerman's show!
But we still have Woody :lol:
IF he ever left...I'm watching TRL! :eek:
Mondo Kane
02-13-04, 11:54 PM
So Max is gone from Friday Night Fights too?
Mad Dawg
02-14-04, 01:14 PM
For those uncomfortable with Reali continuing as host, the show's website offers some hope. It blurbs Stat Boy as the current moderator.
I wish the best to Kellerman, and if Fox Sports was legitmately offering that kind of money, I can't blame him for asking ESPN to match. But I'm sure ESPN feels that they offer more than money when compared to FSN and they don't feel much pressure in these situations.
Red Dog
02-14-04, 02:14 PM
Pretty strange that the ESPN Full Court channels are still showing commercials for ATH w/ Max.
lisadoris
02-14-04, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Mondo Kane
So Max is gone from Friday Night Fights too?
Yep. No more ATH, no more Friday Night Fights, no more EXPN.com column or chats. The only thing we can hope for is if Kornheiser and Wilbon invite him over for Five Good Minutes after some important boxing match.
kantonburg
02-17-04, 06:59 PM
I didn't realize Max is gone completely.
Tony has been pretty good these past two weeks though.
Da Thrilla
02-17-04, 07:00 PM
Yeah, Tony is getting into the swing of things...I'm sure he'll turn out.
Scott27
02-19-04, 08:30 PM
It looks like Kellerman's new show will start in mid-April on Fox Sports Net. From EMOnline:
Kellerman to Host Fox Sports Net Show: Fox Sports Net has hired ESPN's Max Kellerman, to host a daily 30-minute talk and interview show. Mr. Kellerman's FSN show is scheduled for a mid-April launch. Mr. Kellerman had been host of ESPN's "Around the Horn" and a studio analyst for "Friday Night Fights" on ESPN2.
www.emonline.com
Mondo Kane
02-19-04, 08:53 PM
FNF's ratings are already sliding as it is, and Max was a big reason why the program for lasted this long. In fact, I mostly tuned in just for the news with Max & Brian rather than the fights.
As for a replacement for Max, try Pedro Fernandez, the Ringtalk guy. I could live with that.
Da Thrilla
02-19-04, 09:46 PM
That's cool. I'm watch.
lisadoris
02-20-04, 07:37 AM
Guess I'll be tuning in to Fox Sports a tad more often.
DJ_Spyder
02-24-04, 11:42 PM
My vote would go to Woody Paige as host that guy is really funny and would no doubt get the last word in an arguement with the other talking heads although the disembodied voice comes in a close second. One last note get rid of stat boy he is just irritating and he works too hard to make people laugh.
shadowhawk2020
02-25-04, 05:03 AM
What happened to "Lets light this candle"?
Shadow
kantonburg
02-26-04, 09:07 AM
I do have one pet peeve about the show. They seem to say the same thing EVERY day for each segment.
"Get it, got it, good!" Everyday!
joshd2012
03-24-04, 05:30 PM
http://www.woodypaige.com
kantonburg
03-25-04, 10:57 AM
WOODY PAIGE
Landoversnoop
03-25-04, 05:46 PM
I'll watch ATH when I get the chance and remember it's on. I think it's a great show and pretty funny actually. I like PTI, too. Kornheiser and Wilbon are pretty decent...
kantonburg
03-25-04, 10:26 PM
From woodypaige.com
Top Ten Good Things about Stat Girl Hosting
10. All the fluff of Kellerman with half the calories
9. The need to prove one's "urban-ness" has subsided
8. Now we know where Regis' suits from " Millionaire" went
7. He finds Woody's antagonizing humor as quaint as we do
6. Even two days without a Yankee topic is a Godsend
5. Your return on haircare product stock is on the rise
4. Until now I never realized the show had flow
3. That facial hair was beyond annoying…
2. Big teeth are making their biggest comeback since "Lil Red Riding Hood"
1. It's nice to see a young boy who really knows how to wear his makeup
kantonburg
04-12-04, 10:39 AM
Well Mariotti's streak is over. He missed last week.
lisadoris
04-12-04, 01:45 PM
Somewhat off topic: does anybody have news on Kellerman's new show on FoxSports. It was supposed to start in April but I haven't heard anything about it.
namja
04-12-04, 05:39 PM
So, do ppl still like the Statboy doing ATH? Kellerman was really annoying at times, but ATH just ain't as good w/o him.
Scott27
04-12-04, 09:46 PM
What I don't like about Stat Boy hosting ATH is that it's exactly the same as when Max hosted, right down to the "these 4 things I know are true" intro. I think he should've tried to make the show his more, rather than just be Max, Jr.
Dubya
04-13-04, 02:50 PM
Whatever happened to disembodied voice? Watching the Beyonce/Jessica Alba/J. Lo, etc. clips just isn't the same without it ;)
will travel
04-16-04, 02:42 AM
Also StatBoy like Kellerman is a Yankee Lover. BLECH!!!!
I, also, miss the disembodied voice. Guess they are trying to save money.
SuprVgeta
04-16-04, 03:38 AM
Both PTI and Around the Horn are great shows, it's just hard to watch them back to back for me because they discuss the same topics.
kantonburg
04-16-04, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by SuprVgeta
Both PTI and Around the Horn are great shows, it's just hard to watch them back to back for me because they discuss the same topics.
You know I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I found myself not wanting to watch PTI because I JUST heard the same topics discussed. If I get to the point where I can only watch one. It won't be ATH.
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