Will using a European PAL DVD player eliminate the 4% speedup?
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Will using a European PAL DVD player eliminate the 4% speedup?
I have a projector which will accept a PAL signal. As it stands now, I play my R2 PAL discs on a Cyberhome which does PAL->NTSC conversion, but of course has the 4% speedup. If I were to buy an actual PAL DVD player from the UK for instance, and played an R2 PAL DVD on it, would the audio output be at the correct pitch or would it still have the 4% speedup? (Obviously I'd need a voltage converter to operate it.)
Please help me, I'm an idiot.
Please help me, I'm an idiot.
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The PAL speedup is due to their video. I don't remember the exact numbers off the top of my head, but NTSC runs at like 26 frames per second, and pal is 29.
The problem is how was it filmed.
I could be wrong though, numbers I'm sure are off.
The problem is how was it filmed.
I could be wrong though, numbers I'm sure are off.
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If your projector accepts and outputs PAL, and you're using a PAL player, then there shouldn't be any speed up. If your projector converts it to NTSC (don't see why it would) then you would get the speed up. Just doublecheck that the projector won't convert it to NTSC, and make sure you can use the PAL DVD player on you electrical outlet and you'll be good to go.
I'm almost willing to bet that you won't see a difference. Most people don't notice the speed up, and those that think they do are often wrong. It's mainly psychological. Ask anyone from a PAL country like the UK that gets a lot of US NTSC programming also if they notice anything on the conversion.
I'm almost willing to bet that you won't see a difference. Most people don't notice the speed up, and those that think they do are often wrong. It's mainly psychological. Ask anyone from a PAL country like the UK that gets a lot of US NTSC programming also if they notice anything on the conversion.
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The speedup is there regardless if pal native or converted to ntsc if the dvd audio hasn't been pitch corrected. The root issue is going 24 -> 25 FPS. As with any pitch issue, it entirely subjective. There are far too many people in this world who think they sound good when they sing...those of us with ears know otherwise. Pal speedup is akin to this.
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Originally posted by Furious
The speedup is there regardless if pal native or converted to ntsc if the dvd audio hasn't been pitch corrected. The root issue is going 24 -> 25 FPS. As with any pitch issue, it entirely subjective. There are far too many people in this world who think they sound good when they sing...those of us with ears know otherwise. Pal speedup is akin to this.
The speedup is there regardless if pal native or converted to ntsc if the dvd audio hasn't been pitch corrected. The root issue is going 24 -> 25 FPS. As with any pitch issue, it entirely subjective. There are far too many people in this world who think they sound good when they sing...those of us with ears know otherwise. Pal speedup is akin to this.
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What I don't understand is that 25fps is closer to 24fps than 29fps is to 24fps. So wouldn't it be that the NTSC versions are too slow and we're just used to that and that's why PAL usually sounds fast to people? Genuinely confused by this.