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Iron_Giant
01-21-04, 03:34 PM
Just bought a Zenith C32V37 last Sunday night.

I used to search the web for reviews of the HDTV, but could not find very many, so here is my review after setting it up over the past 3 days:

Watching a DVD
-I have only played 3 DVDs (Lion King, Star Wars and The Mask) on the system and all 3 looked great (after setting up the color correctly). I set my DVD player to think it is playing to a 16:9 TV, becuase the C32V37 can be set as 16:9 system so you can take advantage of the "Enhanced for Widescreen" DVDs. The Mask is a 4:3 DVD, so it did not look as good and I did not reset my DVD player to 4:3 output because I did not want to take the time (I have very few DVD that are not "Enhanced for Widescreen").

Watching Broadcast (Over the Air) HDTV
-Jay Leno and his guest on the Tonight Show looked better than fantastic. This is the 1st time I have watched HDTV being broadcast over the airwaves. Let's just say that I was shocked how good the picture is on HDTV. I cannot wait for all signals (and sources materail) to be HD. Then I will not need to pay for Comcast Cable any more. The SuperBowl is going to look "Super" this year.
-The Reception of the HD Signal over my RCA Powered (25 DB Gain) Anntena that now sits on top of HDTV is very strong. When I walk around the room the signal does not get cut off and the signal monitor that is built into the TV shows Normal/Good strength throughout the night. This is much better than the Samsung 151 (I think this was the model, it was 6 months ago), which would cause the signal to cut out when someone walked around my living room. The only time the Zenith HD Signal cuts out is when a train comes by my house, the signals dies for only 2 or 3 seconds. So I give the Zenith a much higher rating than the Samsungs HD receiver.
-I am not surpised that Zenith does a much better job in holding onto the HD Signal, after all Zenith is developer of the 8-VSB transmission standard.

Watching Comcast Analog
-Does not upconvert the signal as well as a Sony HDTV (glass tube), but it is still way better than my old 9 1/2 year old TV. TV shows look good and can be watched with no problem. But, animated shows look GREAT when upconverted by the Zenith.

Flipping channels
-A little pause between channels, I think it is because it has to digitize (put the picture in some kind of RAM) the picture first.
-There is some kind of Surf feature in the HDTV, but I have not set it up yet. I hope this will help scanning the channels a little faster.
-Going between Annalog and Digital channels takes a little while to understand and make it a habit. If you want NBC-HD (which is channels 11 on Analog Comcast), I have to punch in 48-2 (there is a dash button on the remote or type just type in 482). To go back to NBC on annalog cable, I need to punch in 11-0.

Sound
-The sound from the TV is very powerful, sound volumn can go very high.
-Have not hooked it into my Surround Sound system yet, I will use the fiber optic connection tonight so I test out the 5.1 sound coming from HDTV. Will update tomorrow.

1. Size 32 inches (Perfect for our living room)
Length: 22.4 inches
Width: 36 inches
Height: 27 inches

2. Weight
158 pounds (easy for 2 men to pull it out of the box and put it into the TV Stand)

3. Setup (this took me a few tries to get right)
Coaxial #1 connection = Anntena (For HDTV)
Coaxial #2 connection = Cable (Comcast Analog)
-Must tell the system how you have the connectors setup (you have 4 options, I used option three)
-Auto Channel Select took about 3 minutes

4. Color adjust
-All glass HDTV systems colors are set way to high, had to back the color adjust way (and I mean way down) down and set the Tint a little away from the red side.

5. Price
-$999 (got it at Best Buy for $940 with Tax and 4 year warrenty)
-Very good deal considering that it has a built in HDTV receiver that really grabs onto the signal with a little powered anntena!

6. Menus
-Easy to access and select all menu functions. I am a techy kind of guy, so I do not know how a “Non-Techy” person will succed in cruising through menus.

7. Remote Control
-Has easy one button access for most of the controls you will once you get the system setup.
-I can only turn my JVC DVD/Sound Sytem off and on, cannot start/stop DVD player.
-Have not setup the remote to control the VHS machine yet, but it looks like it has more controls/buttons for a VHS player than a DVD player.
-No real problems with the remote and the HDTV, most remote will not control my JVC all-in-one DVD/Surrond Sound system.

Stats for the HDTV:
http://store.hdtvtime.com/c32v37.html

mapson
01-22-04, 10:05 AM
Nice review. It is good to hear the audio is capable for those without a 5.1+ system. Dvds and HD material are dependent on the source, older materials do not display as nice while the newer ones look gorgeous. The Super bowl will definitely look Super, enjoy!

Slowpc
01-23-04, 03:55 PM
Just got my tax return in .... please dont make me replace my philips and get this one... hehe.

succubiss
02-13-04, 12:55 PM
Thanks for the review. I also saw your review on Amazon.com.

Very clear and well thought out!

Bill Geiger
02-14-04, 07:59 PM
It really is a nice looking TV.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000E6MA4.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

succubiss
02-16-04, 04:49 AM
I saw it today at best buy and almost pulled the trigger.
Played around with the analog signal as well as hdtv. both look very nice.

price: $999 - $100 - 10% = $810 + tax...

but i think I will hold off this time around. I won't need it till April, and prices don't go up, so I will exercise discipline and see if it pays off. sweet sweet setup though.

Iron_Giant
02-17-04, 03:10 AM
I used to work at BestBuy (that is why I bought the TV, it saved me hundreds of dollars) and the TV was always sold out of the local store and the wharehouse. The last time I looked in the system, there were about 30 on back order for the region/wherehouse. It has become a very popular HDTV for those who are looking to save a few bucks and are not looking for HUGES screens.

Gil Jawetz
02-24-04, 11:49 AM
Oh lord, I was all set to get the Samsung TXN3298HF until I read that this thing is better and for around the same price. What would actually make it CHEAPER is that it has built in tuners. Can you confirm that it can get cable unscrambled HDTV channels through its internal receiver (like the major networks)? I don't care as much for ESPN and Discovery and wasn't going to subscribe to premiums anyway. If it saved me the extra cash of getting DTV then it would be awesome!

Iron_Giant
02-24-04, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Gil Jawetz
Oh lord, I was all set to get the Samsung TXN3298HF until I read that this thing is better and for around the same price. What would actually make it CHEAPER is that it has built in tuners. Can you confirm that it can get cable unscrambled HDTV channels through its internal receiver (like the major networks)? I don't care as much for ESPN and Discovery and wasn't going to subscribe to premiums anyway. If it saved me the extra cash of getting DTV then it would be awesome!
My Zenith HDTV gets the HD signal (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, WB...) through the antenna that is connected to it.

The picture will only look as good as the source materail that is being broadcast. So, if the show was not tape/film in HD, then it will not look like HD on the TV even though it is broadcast through the HD signal. The HD signal is only a pipe, garbage in garbage out or GREAT HD in GREAT HD out (and not all HD source were created equal).

Buy the TV if you are only looking for a 32 inch TV and if you are willing to wait for everything to be film and broadcast in HD.

One more thing, make sure you are in an area that receive a good signal for your antannea to grab onto.

The SuperBowl was the best thing I have ever watched on TV. It made the purchase of the TV worth every cent. Now I am waiting for the NCAA final Four games that are going to broadcast in HD.

Gil Jawetz
02-24-04, 03:00 PM
I hear ya but what I was wondering is if the built in cable receiver is able to receive unscrambled HD channels when you are only subscribed to standard cable. Know what I mean? Meaning, if I get this TV, will I be able to watch the HD versions of ABC, CBS etc... without subscribing to a cable package like DTV? I don't really have any intention to running an antenna up to my roof (my living room is basically in the basement and it's a townhouse, so it's kinda impractical.) If the TV is able to receive HD channels from my cable provider without me bumping up to a more expensive service that would rule.

Iron_Giant
02-24-04, 06:27 PM
Well, at BestBuy they had a cable running to the HDTV and I was able to change the channel to 14 (no over the air signal) which showed the HD signal coming over the coax cable. The signal was an unscambled HD signal that sold the HDTV to many people because they could see how much better HD was than regular TV signal.

So I would say, when HD is broadcast over regular cable all you will to do is plug it in to receive the HD signal.


But, I do not think the cable company will have the signal be a free flowing signal, my bet is that it will always have a box between the HDTV and the cable. This way the cable company can charge you more for the HD signal.

Gil Jawetz
02-24-04, 08:15 PM
This thread at AVS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=319485&perpage=20&pagenumber=7) suggests that the TV acts as its own cable box and even gets unscrambled HD channels on its own, even if you have a standard cable subscription. I'm trying to get a definitive answer... We'll see...

Gil Jawetz
02-25-04, 12:01 PM
Question: How does this 4:3 set handle widescreen? Does it do that nifty thing where it squeezes to use the full resolution in the wide-screen image or does it waste resolution on the black bars?

uNCSUcks
02-25-04, 09:01 PM
Iron_Giant, one of my friends dad's just bought this tv and I was helping him set it up and had a question for you. Do you know if there is a way to label the inputs or turn off the ones that aren't in use?

Gil Jawetz
02-26-04, 02:10 PM
By the way, according to Amazon, this TV DOES squeeze the image to use the full resolution in a 16:9 frame...

Iron_Giant
02-27-04, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Gil Jawetz
By the way, according to Amazon, this TV DOES squeeze the image to use the full resolution in a 16:9 frame...
Yes it does.

Iron_Giant
02-27-04, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by uNCSUcks
Iron_Giant, one of my friends dad's just bought this tv and I was helping him set it up and had a question for you. Do you know if there is a way to label the inputs or turn of the ones that aren't in use?
I have not check on this, but I will when I get home.

The only connection I use on the TV is Component #1, so it is just a one button to have the DVD play on the screen. I have my VCR play through channels 3 on the TV.

Gil Jawetz
02-29-04, 09:29 PM
Went to Best Buy and got this. It's being delivered next Saturday. The wait will kill me but I'm psyched.

succubiss
05-04-04, 07:03 PM
Bestbuy has this till saturday for $809 + tax.

However, there is a new dilemma.
I discovered there are 2 similar models for the same price:
C32V36 and the C32V37, both same size, same look.

The V36 has a Faroudja DCDi line doubler, but no internal QAM tuner.

The V37 has the internal QAM HD tuner but no Faroudja line doubler.

After doing some research on the net, the V36 model came out in 9/03 and the V37 came out on 11/03. Some owners of the V36 model have reported speaker buzz which is sometimes audible. The V36 model with the line double is supposedly better for watching non-HDTV, as sharp lines and edges are softened. I plan to watch DirecTV and DVDs mostly with this unit. I also have DirecTV HD, but will probably leave that receiver with the big screen.

I don't get HD locals from where I live, so I wouldn't be able to take advantage of the built-in tuner... and probably all the future HD receivers will become more affordable as well.

So I'm really at a loss right now. Bestbuy does not have a display of the V36 model so I can compare the picture side by side, but I've seen the V36 model plenty of times and am always thrilled by the picture. Either way, I will be making a decision by saturday... any thoughts?

succubiss
05-04-04, 07:23 PM
http://www.dcdi-video.com/technology/articles/sage-dcdi-overview.html
http://www.av-outlet.com/en-us/dept_335.html

After reading the reviews and technical talk, i'm really getting swayed towards the V36... I hope i'm not buying into marketing fast talk. the internal HD antenna is a big thing to give up, especially when talking about resale value. I wish they didn't make us choose either/or. mercy.