DIE HARD or SPEED? The better film?

[smirnoffski]

Both of these films are noted for the reinvention of the action genre and have spawned many imitators.
While some may consider SPEED to be an offshoot of what DIE HARD initiated, it nonetheless has enough originality to stand on its own.

So which one is the better movie overall; all things considered?


DIE HARD or SPEED?




Vote in my other polls if you have not:


American actors better at British accents OR British better at American accents? (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=341277)

Ben Stiller VS. Adam Sandler (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=341304)

LEAST liked Disney 2D animated film of the recent era? (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=340478)

Do you view FILM CREDITS? (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=339261)

BEST Robin Hood film? (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=339483)

BEST submarine film? (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=338867)

:)

[TCG]

Not even close, Die Hard all the way.

"Yippy-kay-yay-************!"

[jaeufraser]

Speed is a fun action movie, but Die Hard is the king. It's not even a fair comparison, and while i appreciate the subjectivity of film criticism, those who voted for Speed...you are WRONG!!! -wink-

[D-Ball]

Not even close. Die Hard is better.

[Deftones]

Die Hard by a long shot....

[B.A.]

Die Hard

[chanster]

No contest. If anything Speed took Die Hard and put it on a bus.

[TomOpus]

Speed is an entertaining movie in it's own right...

But Die Hard is in a class of it's own. I could watch it once a week.

[MrX]

Die Hard

[jekbrown]

speed is crap... every time Reeves tries to look all tough he just comes off looking like a pansy. If I was his arch nemesis, he'd surely get me cause I'd be rolling around on the ground laughing at his "tough guy" expression. lol!!

j

[Shannon Nutt]

No brainer.

Now I have a machine gun. Ho - Ho - Ho!

[Rivero]

Is this a joke? Die Hard puts Speed to shame in every possible way. Die Hard vs The Matrix or The Killer would have been slightly more interesting poll.

[BlackBeauty92]

tough choice...

SPEED got great action scenes, great camera plays, fantastic core (Mark Mancina's best), good humors from Jeff Daniel & Bullock... but the humor only last till half of the movie (before Jeff's character killed)

DIE HARD got great action scene, decent camera & score, but allot of good consistant humors from Willis, that Al Powel guy, Allan Rickman (did i say his name right?)

so, in the end, DIE HARD lead in a very small point over SPEED due to consistant humors trough out the movie (beginning to end)

:)

[QuiGonJosh]

Their about the same to me...

[SilverScreen]

You gotta be kidding.... absolutely no comparison...

Die Hard :thumbsup: :banana: :thumbsup: :banana:

Speed :thmbsdwn: :frankie: :thmbsdwn: :frankie:

"A$$HOLE?? I'm not the one who just got butt****ed on national TV, Dwayne!"

[PalmerJoss]

There is no comparison. Die Hard is one of the greatest action flicks ever made, while Speed is merely a mediocre action film. Alan Rickman was a much much better villain than Dennis Hopper, and Bruce Willis makes a much better hero than Keanu "whoa" Reeves.

[theneobez]

I love both, but Die Hard is clearly the better film.

Speed is also a kick ass action flick though.

[Breakfast with Girls]

Originally posted by TCG
Not even close, Die Hard all the way.

"Yippy-kay-yay-<i>Mr. Falcon</i>!"

Edited.

[troystiffler]

Both are really exciting. But I like Die Hard more. Speed probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for Die Hard.

I miss <b>good</b> action movies. *sign*

[BigDaddy]

Die Hard by a mile.

[Painkiller]

Die Hard may be the greatest pure action film ever.

[Doughboy]

Die Hard is the superior film, although I've never considered it the classic movie most people make it out to be thanks to the inclusion of Paul Gleason's idiot police captain. If they had replaced his character with Dennis Franz from the second film(who was an a-hole, but at least had an IQ in triple digits), then you could make a case for it being the greatest action film ever made.

Say what you will about Speed(and I do love that movie to this day), but at least everyone in that flick had a brain and actually used it.

[RyoHazuki]

"I'm gonna kill you............(punch) I'm gonna cook ya......... (punch)......... and I'm gonna eat ya!"

Die Hard.

[LasVegasMichael]

Die Hard is much superior to the "sequal" Die Hard on a Bus.

Die Hard did not have the overtone of "romance" that Speed inevitably has (between Bullock and Reeves), and really should have ended when the bus exploded (I do believe that even the writer admits that on the commentary to Speed-Correct me if I am wrong).

The funny thing is that even the screenwriter and producer rip on the film in thier commentary, admitting that the characters are "1 dimensional at best". This makes for a brutally funny commentary, though.

I enjoy both films and own both, don't get me wrong, but to compare the two is, shall we say, unfair, for lack of a better term.

--LVM

[jasonbird]

Bought Die Hard and don't own Speed. Not even close IMHO.

Jason

[Kashmir]

DIE HARD all the way!!!

[Sunday Morning]

Speed is virtually a remake of die hard. It owes a lot to that film. A lot of people who worked on speed, worked on die hard.

Die hard set the standard for the action genre in the late 80's/90's.


I like both, but everyone must give props to where it's due. Die Hard.

[Pants]

Die Hard all the way baby!!! Hans Gruber rules. I think I'll watch it tonight.

For once the poll results are just as they should be

On a side note I've always thought it was interesting that critics weren't very turned on by Die Hard, but later praised it's sequal (very mediocre) and its imitators (Speed, Under Seige). It's a classic case of being ahead of the curve (or defining the curve)

Anyway, I'll get back to that beach

[Deckard-10]

No contest. &nbsp Die Hard is the better film!

[DarthMarino]

"What. Do. You. Do? What. Do. You. Do?"

Keanu's acting in Speed alone makes it worse than Die Hard. Not to mention the countless other things that make it vastly inferior.

"No f%^&ing sh!t lady, what do I sound like I'm ordering a pizza?!?!?!"

[chanster]

"The quaterback is toast!!!"

[rexinnih]

Enjoyed both. Have both on DVD. But it's Die Hard in a head-to-head competition.

[Robert]

I put <b>Speed</b> ahead of <b>Die Hard</b> for 2 reasons:

1. Why do the Police in Die Hard have to be so inept?

2. The bus/airplane collision/explosion at the end of Speed tops the ones in Die Hard.

[RyoHazuki]

They are inept in Speed as well. They just leave Sandra Bollock standing there to get kidnapped.

[lesterlong]

Poll Results 88 - 5 This was a funny poll.

[jayson1017]

Both are good movies. But I'd have to go with Die Hard all the way.

[Robert]

Originally posted by RyoHazuki
They are inept in Speed as well. They just leave Sandra Bollock standing there to get kidnapped.

They simply weren't counting on the bomber disguising himself as a cop to kidnap her.

The behavior of the police and FBI in Die Hard is downright idiotic.

[muggins]

I voted Die Hard...


Hans Gruber: "When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer." The benefits of a classical education.

[RyoHazuki]

Originally posted by Robert
They simply weren't counting on the bomber disguising himself as a cop to kidnap her.

The behavior of the police and FBI in Die Hard is downright idiotic. Cops dont just go by what they're counting on. They have rules. They aren't just gonna bring along a person who was involved with the case.

[TCG]

Originally posted by RyoHazuki
Cops dont just go by what they're counting on. They have rules.
"You wont hurt me. you are a policeman. there are rules for policemen."

"Yeah? so my captain keeps telling me."


c'mon, the cops in both movies are not very smart.

Speed: how they ever let dennis hopper leave the building in the first place!

DH: they go in through the front entrance rather than the basement!

[davidlynchfan]

Just for my padding sakes: (not like my opinion will alter the entire thread!): It's still DIE HARD.

[Pants]

Originally posted by Robert
The behavior of the police and FBI in Die Hard is downright idiotic. It's supposed to be a satire of police and government lack of preparedness and capability to deal with a "terrorist" situation. Gruber is counting on that incompetence to make his heist work. The Police and FBI also stand in contrast to the one man who can save the day, who is prepared, John McClain.

[BigDaddy]

You asked for a miracle, I give you the F B I.

[Inverse]

Die Hard. Apart from anything else, a better script and better actors.

[chanster]

Anybody that voted for Speed should be dropped off Nakatomi Plaza!!!

[jfoobar]

Cmon, no contect. Die Hard.

As much as I like Hopper in general, Rickman is a far better villain in a direct comparison.

[Pants]

:johnwoo: the people who voted for Speed

[Moefuscious]

Die Hard of course. Also easily the most quotable.

Glass? Who gives a sh!t about glass?

[DarthVong]

Die Hard is the better film. If it wasnt for Die Hard there would be no Speed.

[Fielding Mellish]

Die Hard.

It's Die Hard... in a building! ;)

[Maxflier]

Speed

[Tony Dvdfan]

Die Hard by a mile!! Speed is a decent action film at best....Hopper made a good villian, but Keanu and Bullock act like they're reading their lines off the windshield, very bland acting. Die Hard had the best villians, superior action sequences, and so many memorable lines....
-
"A hundred million terrorists in the world and I gotta kill one with feet smaller than my sister"

[smirnoffski]

Thanks for all your input folks.
What is interesting is that Speed garnered more critical acclaim than Die Hard

[shizawn]

Die Hard, by far.

[Kinyo]

Die Hard got my vote.

[Sparrow]

I voted in the minority - Speed.

While I own and enjoy both, I find that my mood gravitates towards Speed more, for the acting of Hopper, the fact that both Reeves and Bullock have great chemistry in this movie and I absolutely love that heart pounding action.

Die Hard is also a good movie - better writing, but it doesn't call me as much to watch it.

[sataniko]

Both about the same - They both suck!

[RyoHazuki]

Originally posted by sataniko
Both about the same - They both suck! Blasphemy.

[Hokeyboy]

Lola Rennt

[atari2600]

speed is a very good movie but die hard was great.

[TopHatCat64]

Originally posted by Matt Millheiser
Lola Rennt

Elitist -wink-

[Moppy007]

Die Hard.

When I was younger Speed was my favourite movie... but Die Hard is the shit.

[mariakitty]

I just saw Speed for the first time last week on Fox Movie Channel. I'm not a huge fan of action movies, but it was certainly watchable and fast-paced. I particularly like the confinement aspect of staying on the bus for most of the movie.

However, Die Hard is funny, action-packed and ultimately has a more engaging story.