What is the "Soft intro then scream" genre called?
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Sounds like you might be talking about EMO. Don't worry, it will pass.
Although the latest CD from THRICE-which is like an emo version of HELMET is pretty darn good.
Although the latest CD from THRICE-which is like an emo version of HELMET is pretty darn good.
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It's just an evolution of the soft verse/loud chorus thing that the Pixies helped start and was picked up as a core component of grunge and other 90s pixies-influenced bands.
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Originally posted by TeeSeeJay
It's just an evolution of the soft verse/loud chorus thing that the Pixies helped start and was picked up as a core component of grunge and other 90s pixies-influenced bands.
It's just an evolution of the soft verse/loud chorus thing that the Pixies helped start and was picked up as a core component of grunge and other 90s pixies-influenced bands.
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No, I think I know what he means..the music starts very softly, acoustic guitar, tender voice..and then suddenly becomes very hard and aggressive..I have heard songs like this from Linkin Park, Cold Play, and other other similar bands..
It is trash and very sad....especially since no one can do it right....
It is trash and very sad....especially since no one can do it right....
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Originally posted by sararekuforever
It is trash and very sad....especially since no one can do it right....
It is trash and very sad....especially since no one can do it right....
Nirvana did it great IMO, as does Linkin Park (one of the few new popular bands of the past few years I actually like)
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screemo? maybe not.
and from reviews i've read of bands like linkin park, etc., i've heard them referred to as "ripoffs" but ripoffs of what? who started this genre is beyond me.
and from reviews i've read of bands like linkin park, etc., i've heard them referred to as "ripoffs" but ripoffs of what? who started this genre is beyond me.
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Originally posted by cungar
I liked the Pixies. This sounds nothing like them.
I liked the Pixies. This sounds nothing like them.
Nirvana was heavily pixinian in this same soft verse/loud chorus vein.
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I didn't list NIrvana, they are a band of high musical quality even though I do not enjoy their music I will say that they are a talented band that changed a lot of things
I didn't list NIrvana, they are a band of high musical quality even though I do not enjoy their music I will say that they are a talented band that changed a lot of things
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Originally posted by sararekuforever
And so do classical composers, there are quite a lot of incredible pieces that start out real mellow..and go crazy near the middle or end..
And so do classical composers, there are quite a lot of incredible pieces that start out real mellow..and go crazy near the middle or end..
And Nirvana didn't even go from whisper to explosion in the sense that some other bands do, specifically post-rock bands. Unfortunately (or fortunately), post-rock is largely considered a premature and/or exhausted genre, and therefore ignored.
But to address the question at hand, none of that is a genre. It's a musical pattern and it was around long before the Pixies. Nothing makes loud seem LOUD like a lil' bit of quiet.
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and from reviews i've read of bands like linkin park, etc., i've heard them referred to as "ripoffs" but ripoffs of what? who started this genre is beyond me.
NIN < Depeche Mode < Joy Division
etc., etc.
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It sounds like what you're describing is just a more extreme form of what The Who did with "Behind Blue Eyes". But yeah, in contemporary music the pioneers were The Pixies, followed by Nirvana.
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How about a Lullabye Scream?
Picture someone softly singing to you as you relax and close your eyes. The stress and tension leaves your body as you are soothed. Then suddenly they scream in your face while your eyes are closed.
Can't say I enjoy it.
Picture someone softly singing to you as you relax and close your eyes. The stress and tension leaves your body as you are soothed. Then suddenly they scream in your face while your eyes are closed.
Can't say I enjoy it.
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I dont think you limit one genre as doing this. IMO it is a musical technique that can be incorporated into any form of music. For example nas did something like that in one mic.
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many people call it emo or emo-core. at the very least it is influenced by music throughout the emo genre.
more info than you probably want to know:
emo began as screamy, hardcore punk music with introspective and poetic lyrics (try the bands rites of spring and embrace for a sampling). over the course of time, the music and vocals became more melodic and also more dynamic. the most influential band in this sort of middle phase of emo's development was sunny day real estate. perhaps the defining characteristic of that mid-nineties emo phase was the dynamic transitions from melodic and soft to heavy and screamy within a single song (try the songs "in circles" or "48" from sunny day's diary album for the most pronounced examples of this dynamism) along with the ever-present hyper-poetic lyrics that inspired the genre title in the first place. a ridiculous number of bands were heavily influenced by that early sunny day sound and the emo label began to run rampant. today, everything from dashboard confessional to thrice gets labeled as emo.
more info than you probably want to know:
emo began as screamy, hardcore punk music with introspective and poetic lyrics (try the bands rites of spring and embrace for a sampling). over the course of time, the music and vocals became more melodic and also more dynamic. the most influential band in this sort of middle phase of emo's development was sunny day real estate. perhaps the defining characteristic of that mid-nineties emo phase was the dynamic transitions from melodic and soft to heavy and screamy within a single song (try the songs "in circles" or "48" from sunny day's diary album for the most pronounced examples of this dynamism) along with the ever-present hyper-poetic lyrics that inspired the genre title in the first place. a ridiculous number of bands were heavily influenced by that early sunny day sound and the emo label began to run rampant. today, everything from dashboard confessional to thrice gets labeled as emo.
#24
Originally posted by sararekuforever
I have heard songs like this from Linkin Park, Cold Play, and other other similar bands..
I have heard songs like this from Linkin Park, Cold Play, and other other similar bands..
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Originally posted by DodgingCars
Not sure exactly what you're talking about, but it sounds like emo-core.
Listen to some Thrice, Taking Back Sunday, and Thursday and tell me if that's what you're talking about.
Not sure exactly what you're talking about, but it sounds like emo-core.
Listen to some Thrice, Taking Back Sunday, and Thursday and tell me if that's what you're talking about.