worst ending ever?

[jkenn24]

don't get me wrong I liked all 3 movies, the battle scenes are awesome and the movies are great film making, but with that said that was the worst ending to a movie I have ever seen. It was so drawn out. Me and my friend stood up at least 3 times thinking that it was the end. The ending just took away from what would have been an incredible movie. If the movied ended when all the people bowed down to the hobbits that would have been a very very strong ending , but instead they have what was the most drawn out and stupid ending to a movie I have ever witnessed.

By the way the voting on imdb is getting out of hand return of the king is now number 3 and will soon take over the godfather. what a travesty!

anyone else very dissapointed with the ending?

[cdollaz]

Yeah, wrapping everything up and letting us know what happened to the main characters, that sucked.

[Rivero]

Originally posted by jkenn24

anyone else very dissapointed with the ending?


No, not at all. In fact the ending is why this is my favorite film of the trilogy. The Grey Havens...the return to the Shire....the final line in the novel....it was perfect.


Ending the film immediately after the coronation would have been pathetic and the fans would've rioted.

[ViewAskewbian]

You see, I am the opposite...when I go to the cinema I want to be entranced by the magic of film and, thus, with all magic we, the audience, are tricked. I too believed the film to be over at least twice (the first moment, oddly enough, was when Frodo and Sam were traped in the lava flow and Frodo said something along the lines of "...I will stay with you...here, at the end of all things" and we fade to black. The second moment was when the boat was heading out and the Hobbits were watching it leave). Others around me had stood up as though to go --I usually stay until the end of the credits-- and I was sure it was over but, no, more movie.

To me, I enjoy a film with many endings...never knowing when it is over and especially with a film like this that I did not wish to end.

You could not end with the hobbits being bowed to as it would not be faithful to the books and there was still some issues to resolve and, come on, we HAD to see the shire one more time. As for Sam's epilogue, it was a fitting ending to the film. A closed door of a Hobbit house and the final lines from the novel "Well, I'm back."

To most, I have read, the ending dragged but I could have sat through many more for I just didn't wish to leave Middle Earth with the knowledge that, next year, there would be no fourth film to enjoy.

[raven56706]

Originally posted by jkenn24
don't get me wrong I liked all 3 movies, the battle scenes are awesome and the movies are great film making, but with that said that was the worst ending to a movie I have ever seen. It was so drawn out. Me and my friend stood up at least 3 times thinking that it was the end. The ending just took away from what would have been an incredible movie. If the movied ended when all the people bowed down to the hobbits that would have been a very very strong ending , but instead they have what was the most drawn out and stupid ending to a movie I have ever witnessed.

By the way the voting on imdb is getting out of hand return of the king is now number 3 and will soon take over the godfather. what a travesty!

anyone else very dissapointed with the ending?


I would actually like to thank Peter Jackson for a great ending to the trilogy. Drawn out and stupid.... hmmmmmm.....

What a travesty...... hmmm.... Everyone please raise your hand if you agree that The Godfather part 3 beats out ROTK? Anyone..... Anyone......

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by jkenn24
anyone else very dissapointed with the ending? :wave:

I was disappointed that PJ didn't show us the conclusions to ALL the characters stories..but, since the story was initiated by Frodo, I suppose it was right to end it with him too..

[necros]

I wasn't disapointed with the ending. It was an ending for the trilogy, not for the movie. But, I do agree, the ending should have ended when everyone bowed to the hobbits, maybe followed by a Galadriel voice over with the map of middle earth wrapping up the story ... and then save the longer, drawn-out ending for the EE DVD.

[reubs82]

Originally posted by jkenn24
...but instead they have what was the most drawn out and stupid ending to a movie I have ever witnessed.

By the way the voting on imdb is getting out of hand return of the king is now number 3 and will soon take over the godfather. what a travesty!

anyone else very dissapointed with the ending?

I'm gonna say that this award goes to A.I., which was a beautiful movie w/ a very flawed ending. If you've read the books, you would know that the ending to RotK was pretty true to that. But, IIRC, didn't Sam go to the Grey Havens as well at the end of the book?

My only beef with the ending was that Merry and Pippin were not taller than Frodo and Sam at the coronation. Maybe it was b/c the Ent Draught scene wasn't theatrical, but I was still hoping that they would be true to that aspect.

Be thankful that Jackson did what he did with the ending b/c if anyone drew it out longer than need be (IMO), it was Tolkien in the books. But, that's another story for another time.

[jkenn24]

What a travesty...... hmmm.... Everyone please raise your hand if you agree that The Godfather part 3 beats out ROTK? Anyone..... Anyone......

what does godfather part 3 have to do with it??

but anyways, I will raise my hand The godfather part 3 was a great movie people are to hard on it. Part 3 doesnt compare to I and II but no filma can compare to I and II. I found this movie to be way more moving then the lotr trilogy. the end of the movie with pacino's silent scream was one of the most moving scenes I have ever seen and then him falling to his death alone in his chair. I enjoyed the lord of the rings trilogy, all I am saying is that it's getting way to much praise. The bottom line is the godfather is the best trilogy.

[Rivero]

Originally posted by reubs82
If you've read the books, you would know that the ending to RotK was pretty true to that. But, IIRC, didn't Sam go to the Grey Havens as well at the end of the book?




That didn't happen until much, much later.

[caligulathegod]

You don't find out in the books what happened to Gimli, Legolas, Aragorn, Arwen, Sam, etc, until you read the appendices. It's not in the book proper.

I really don't understand this whole attitude toward the ending. We've just spent 9-11 hours with these characters and it's supposed to end the instant the Ring is destroyed with absolutely no closure for our characters? People need to learn more patience.

[jim_cook87]

Originally posted by reubs82
[B] But, IIRC, didn't Sam go to the Grey Havens as well at the end of the book?


He does after his kids are grown and Rosy passes, but that is only covered in the Appendices

[bdrules]

it sort of felt like they left out gimli though. everyone else had an ending of sorts, other than gimli. i thought that was odd, but i guess it would have meant another "ending". what happens in the book to him?

i liked the ending, other than the part where all the hobbits jump into bed together, and everyone starts smiling in slow motion. there's nothing wrong with it necessarily. i just thought it went on way too long. other than that... it was great.

EDIT: i also thought that the fade out with sam and frodo on the rocks at "the end of all things" and then the fade in with them still there and the eagles saving them was very nicely done.

[movielib]

Originally posted by caligulathegod
You don't find out in the books what happened to Gimli, Legolas, Aragorn, Arwen, Sam, etc, until you read the appendices. It's not in the book proper.

I really don't understand this whole attitude toward the ending. We've just spent 9-11 hours with these characters and it's supposed to end the instant the Ring is destroyed with absolutely no closure for our characters? People need to learn more patience.
:up: I love the stuff after the ring is destroyed. I could have seen more.

[dcswirl]

Personally, I loved the ending and could have sat for another hour of it. What is wrong with wrapping up a great trilogy?

[Vegas9203]

Originally posted by caligulathegod
You don't find out in the books what happened to Gimli, Legolas, Aragorn, Arwen, Sam, etc, until you read the appendices. It's not in the book proper.

I really don't understand this whole attitude toward the ending. We've just spent 9-11 hours with these characters and it's supposed to end the instant the Ring is destroyed with absolutely no closure for our characters? People need to learn more patience.

Agreed. :thumbsup: I mean, come on, you watched all the previous movies with extended scenes, probably more than once and all of a sudden half an hour at the end of the last movie (totally necessary IMO) is unbearable? I don't understand the people that are complaining about this aspect of it, either. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

I was extremely satisfied with the ending. I would have felt emotionally robbed if it had ended at Aragorn's coronations.

[aroney]

Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Lord of the Rings is *one* story. Ir wasn't even supposed to be a trilogy. The books came out that way because that is the way the publishers wanted it. Same thing with the movies. after 10+ hours the "end" was anything but drawn out.

Even comparing it to any other "trilogy" is unfair. Why? because it is still just one story. Not three story's using the same characters or one story that became two or three parts after the fact. (ie. Godfather, Star Wars, Matrix)

[Rivero]

Originally posted by jkenn24


but anyways, I will raise my hand The godfather part 3 was a great movie people are to hard on it. Part 3 doesnt compare to I and II but no filma can compare to I and II. I found this movie to be way more moving then the lotr trilogy. the end of the movie with pacino's silent scream was one of the most moving scenes I have ever seen and then him falling to his death alone in his chair.

Have to disagree. The scene with Pacino's scream might've been moving for me if Coppola's directing wasn't so piss-poor. Sofia Coppola just standing there, 9MM gunshot wounds to the chest, going "Dad?" then falling over like a sack of potatoes. I would've started laughing if I wasn't so pissed off at what they did to this story and the characters. Don Vincent is a one-dimensional Rottweiler. You never once feel any real relationship between him and Michael. Why does Michael trust him? How does he learn and grow to become a Godfather? He just goes from a leather jacket to a suit. The Kay Adams character is wasted, no reason for her being in this film. Connie is now bloodthirsty, spouting lines like "They will fear you now!" WTF?!?? The Vatican plot is a bore. The opera climax is a rip-off of the first film's baptism scene. The movie has Father Guido Sarducci for Chrissakes! When he shows up I can't help but think of that SNL skit where he finds the Pope's wallet, looks through it and pulls out the Blockbuster Video card. The only scene I thought was well-done was Pacino confessing his sins to the cardinal in the garden. Otherwise.....


Most. Unneccesary. Sequel. Ever. Made. Period.

[Tom Banjo]

Originally posted by bdrules
it sort of felt like they left out gimli though. everyone else had an ending of sorts, other than gimli. i thought that was odd, but i guess it would have meant another "ending". what happens in the book to him?


IIRC, Legolas and Gimli went travelling together for many years afterward, and introduced each other to their different cultures. The movies didn't dwell on their friendship as much, but for the record, the elves and dwarves of Middle-Earth were not on good terms. Legolas and Gimli overcame their own prejudices and formed a deep respect and friendship for each other over the course of the trilogy. In the book, during the Battle of Pelennor Fields (I think it was there) they made a vow that if they survived, Legolas would show Gimli all the wonders of elvin-kind (which he wanted to experience thanks to his infatuation with Galadriel), and that Gimli would show Legolas the underground cities of his own people, which he says are as awe-inducing as the forests of Lothlorien.

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by ViewAskewbian
You see, I am the opposite...when I go to the cinema I want to be entranced by the magic of film and, thus, with all magic we, the audience, are tricked. I too believed the film to be over at least twice (the first moment, oddly enough, was when Frodo and Sam were traped in the lava flow and Frodo said something along the lines of "...I will stay with you...here, at the end of all things" and we fade to black. The second moment was when the boat was heading out and the Hobbits were watching it leave). Others around me had stood up as though to go --I usually stay until the end of the credits-- and I was sure it was over but, no, more movie.

To me, I enjoy a film with many endings...never knowing when it is over and especially with a film like this that I did not wish to end.

You could not end with the hobbits being bowed to as it would not be faithful to the books and there was still some issues to resolve and, come on, we HAD to see the shire one more time. As for Sam's epilogue, it was a fitting ending to the film. A closed door of a Hobbit house and the final lines from the novel "Well, I'm back."

To most, I have read, the ending dragged but I could have sat through many more for I just didn't wish to leave Middle Earth with the knowledge that, next year, there would be no fourth film to enjoy.


Couldn't have said it better myself. Also on a side note, those a-holes in the theater clapping during every god damn legolas scene.. where the hell were you during the credits? Oh big fans of the film My ass. give some respect to the crew that made it possible and sit down for the extra 10 minutes.

[chess]

i hate to say it, but i think new line was right on this one. a galadriel voiceover after the coronation sending each of the main characters on their way, describing the scouring of the shire and the death of saruman, and bridging to the gray havens scene would have been much better. it also would have echoed the opening of FOTR.

as it is, we get fade after fade after fade and very little idea about what happens to the cast aside from the hobbits. plus a lot of screentime was used that could have been better utilized on saruman and a more coherent role for aragorn at gondor.

having said that, it would appear that the original poster has some sort of sad godfather agenda. boring.

[Rivero]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
those a-holes in the theater clapping during every god damn legolas scene.. where the hell were you during the credits? Oh big fans of the film My ass. give some respect to the crew that made it possible and sit down for the extra 10 minutes.

lol, those c***sucking motherfu****s, how dare they leave when the movie ends!! In all seriousness, at my first showing 2/3rds of the sold-out show stayed for the credits and clapped at all the names of the cast.

Sean Bean's name got the loudest applause. :thumbsup:

[Rivero]

Originally posted by chess
having said that, it would appear that the original poster has some sort of sad godfather agenda. boring.


LOL, you should check out the Godfather board over at the Movie Database. ROTK is currently at #3, past GFII and could knock GF1 off the top slot pretty soon. Some of those GF fans are up in arms!!

[Sierra Disc]

What absolute nonsense. One of the BEST endings ever IMO. How dare the moviemaker take the time to properly fade out rather than ending it with a series of explosions and a catchy quip.

[BigPete]

Originally posted by Rivero
LOL, you should check out the Godfather board over at the Movie Database. ROTK is currently at #3, past GFII and could knock GF1 off the top slot pretty soon. Some of those GF fans are up in arms!!

They must have little experience with the imdb rankings. Almost every hot new movie does the exact same thing, peaking around #2-3 within the first month. If it remains there past the 6 month mark, then they have something to worry about.

[Suprmallet]

Originally posted by Sierra Disc
What absolute nonsense. One of the BEST endings ever IMO. How dare the moviemaker take the time to properly fade out rather than ending it with a series of explosions and a catchy quip.

Now THAT'S what I was looking for!

I imagine it's something like this:

Everyone bows to the hobbits. Suddenly, Pippin has an explosive fart. It's so bad, people run right off the ledge of the courtyard, flinging themselves to their deaths, like Denethor. Pippin looks ashamed. Suddenly, Yosemite Sam rushes in with a live stick of dynamite, which goes off. Everyone is covered in soot.

Aragorn: I'd buy that for a dollar!

THE END.


Honestly, there was nothing wrong with the ending. I enjoyed it a lot. And I have seen far worse endings to many films, good or bad. And I've also seen better films than the two Godfather films (although they're both amazing). I could see Return of the King beating out The Godfather, although 2001: A Space Odyssey should be at the top, anyway.

[JohnL]

The ending at the Gray Havens is critical. The story is not about triumphing and becoming a hero, as would be implied by ending at the coronation. It's about self-sacrifice and acting on behalf of others. The Gray Havens scene closes out that theme with an exclamation point. Frodo took on the toughest job and paid the price of not being able to live in the world he saved. Sam loses the friend he risked it all to protect.

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by chess
as it is, we get fade after fade after fade...Perhaps star wipes would've been better...?

[chess]

Originally posted by Rogue588
Perhaps star wipes would've been better...?

ooh, sarcasm, that's good.

maybe my memory is failing me, but i don't think that those fades were "middle of the movie" fades...they were "now the credits are gonna roll" fades and i don't think most people really knew what to make of them. i'm sure i've got this wrong, but i fully expected that the movie was over not once, but twice...they didn't get me with the fade to black at mount doom, but they did after the coronation and after the grey havens.

i didn't make it clear in my post, but i have read the books and do know that the ending was fairly faithful...minus the scouring. in fact, the ending didn't bother me at all, i just thought it could have been handled a bit better and that the time invested could have been better invested elsewhere...particularly on aragorn in gondor.

bottom line is that i got it, but the non movie-geek guys i went with didn't, and it's a shame to hear reasonably intelligent guys say that the movie was great but the ending was ridiculous. i'm not sure why, but on some level it was important to me that they liked it without any qualification.

basically, i would equate the christening to the medals scene at the end of star wars, and to most people, everything from there was superfluous and could have been handled beautifully in a narrative by galadriel. plus i think it would have been interesting to close this one 10 hour film the same way we started it. just an opinion.

star wipes...cute.

[Grimfarrow]

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE ENDING!!!!

Thank you. Move along now.

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by chess
ooh, sarcasm, that's good.

maybe my memory is failing me, but i don't think that those fades were "middle of the movie" fades...they were "now the credits are gonna roll" fades and i don't think most people really knew what to make of them. i'm sure i've got this wrong, but i fully expected that the movie was over not once, but twice...they didn't get me with the fade to black at mount doom, but they did after the coronation and after the grey havens.

i didn't make it clear in my post, but i have read the books and do know that the ending was fairly faithful...minus the scouring. in fact, the ending didn't bother me at all, i just thought it could have been handled a bit better and that the time invested could have been better invested elsewhere...particularly on aragorn in gondor.

bottom line is that i got it, but the non movie-geek guys i went with didn't, and it's a shame to hear reasonably intelligent guys say that the movie was great but the ending was ridiculous. i'm not sure why, but on some level it was important to me that they liked it without any qualification.

basically, i would equate the christening to the medals scene at the end of star wars, and to most people, everything from there was superfluous and could have been handled beautifully in a narrative by galadriel. plus i think it would have been interesting to close this one 10 hour film the same way we started it. just an opinion.

star wipes...cute.easy there...

I may have missed a ":p", but I was not being sarcastic..your "fade after fade after fade" comment just kicked my Simpsons geekyness into drive. And, for the record, I usually don't think a movie's over 'til I see the credits start scrolling. And even THEN, i'll just stick around to see if there's a brief scene after the end of the credits.

And I see that the ending didn't bother you at all...so if we agree, then why are we arguing...? :p

[chess]

Originally posted by Rogue588
[size=1]easy there...

I may have missed a ":p", but I was not being sarcastic..your "fade after fade after fade" comment just kicked my Simpsons geekyness into drive. And, for the record, I usually don't think a movie's over 'til I see the credits start scrolling. And even THEN, i'll just stick around to see if there's a brief scene after the end of the credits.

And I see that the ending didn't bother you at all...so if we agree, then why are we arguing...? :p

we're not...i was being sarcastic too. i don't have a problem with fades, those were just awfully long fades and the crowd at my screening was getting restless.

plus i thought sam and frodo were gonna make out for a minute there... ;)

[Groucho]

Yeah, why couldn't they just cut to a hip-hop song and shown hilarious "blooper" outtakes instead? Character development = BORING. "Blooper" reel = AWESOME.

[fumanstan]

I thought the ending stretched on way too long for an already long movie. Could have shaved a good 5 minutes off of it. I don't know what happens in the book, but i was certainly waiting for it to finally end.

[Astro]

Originally posted by chess
we're not...i was being sarcastic too. i don't have a problem with fades, those were just awfully long fades and the crowd at my screening was getting restless.

plus i thought sam and frodo were gonna make out for a minute there... ;)

The only fade that was really long was the first one. The rest had your typical delay between the fade and the next shot.

Aren't there only three fades anyways?

1. Fade to black (long) on Mount Doom as Frodo and Sam await death.

2. Fade to black (or was it white) as Frodo is carried away by an eagle

3. Fade to white as the ship is leaving the Grey Havens.

There might have been a fade between Frodo in the bed surrounded by Fellowship and Aaragorn's coronation... I can't remember. Aaragorn's coronation to Hobbits in the Shire doesn't have a fade between it though; the camera zooms out and transforms into a map of Middle Earth. The shots in the Shire have no fades between them.

[Rivero]

Originally posted by Astro
Aaragorn's coronation to Hobbits in the Shire doesn't have a fade between it though;

It most certainly does

[TCG]

Originally posted by Rogue588
:wave:

I was disappointed that PJ didn't show us the conclusions to ALL the characters stories.
me too. hopefully in the EE.

[TCG]

Originally posted by Groucho
Yeah, why couldn't they just cut to a hip-hop song and shown hilarious "blooper" outtakes instead? Character development = BORING. "Blooper" reel = AWESOME.
:lol:

we have spent 3 movies, about 10 hours with these characters, i want a real ending to the whole story. ending it after the coronation would have been far too abrupt.

[chess]

Originally posted by TCG
:lol:

we have spent 3 movies, about 10 hours with these characters, i want a real ending to the whole story. ending it after the coronation would have been far too abrupt.

i wasn't suggesting that they end the film after the coronation, just that they wrap it up in much the same way they opened the first film...a series of short clips (including the scouring, the death of saruman, and the grey havens) with a voiceover by galadriel. Then cut to the final scene with sam and roll credits.

use the spare screen time for aragorn in gondor and the black gate/voice of sauron.

just what i'd have done, doesn't make it right. incidentally, i'm planning to go see it again the day after x-mas. maybe i'll see it differently on repeat viewing.

and for the record, i am praying for a blooper reel on the EE. there are some really funny people involved with this project.

[mwdkill]

Originally posted by raven56706
I would actually like to thank Peter Jackson for a great ending to the trilogy. Drawn out and stupid.... hmmmmmm.....

What a travesty...... hmmm.... Everyone please raise your hand if you agree that The Godfather part 3 beats out ROTK? Anyone..... Anyone......


You are by far, the worst judge of movies ever

I bet you think that Back to the Future was the greatest of the three also

[Iron_Giant]

Originally posted by caligulathegod
You don't find out in the books what happened to Gimli, Legolas, Aragorn, Arwen, Sam, etc, until you read the appendices. It's not in the book proper.

I really don't understand this whole attitude toward the ending. We've just spent 9-11 hours with these characters and it's supposed to end the instant the Ring is destroyed with absolutely no closure for our characters? People need to learn more patience.
This was my thoughts also at the end of the movie. They story was about the people, so the ending should be about what happened to the people.

I am glad Jackson stuck to the ending that was in the book, it made for a complete circle for the movie and it showed the movie was about heart - not just battle.

[chess]

Originally posted by mwdkill
You are by far, the worst judge of movies ever

I bet you think that Back to the Future was the greatest of the three also

easy there...this stuff is very subjective. no need to discount anybody's opinion. for instance, i'm glad that you love the godfather trilogy. i think they are absurdly overrated, but that doesn't have anything to do with your opinion...it's just mine.

different strokes.

incidentally, i don't recall any particular dislike for BTTF 3 either, and would be more likely to rewatch it than any of the GF trilogy.

[Ghery]

Originally posted by reubs82
My only beef with the ending was that Merry and Pippin were not taller than Frodo and Sam at the coronation. Maybe it was b/c the Ent Draught scene wasn't theatrical, but I was still hoping that they would be true to that aspect.

At the end of The Two Towers EE Merry stands next to Pippen and notes that he is taller again and back to normal. The Ent Draught wore off.

[CitizenKaneRBud]

I imagine most complaints about the ending would be gone if it weren't edited so poorly, with the constant pan-backs, slow motion, and long black fade outs. One thing I have a problem with, why go to a black fade-out while Frodo and Sam are on the rock? I agree with the poster who said a Galadriel voice over explaining the events afterwords similar to the beginning of the story would've been ideal. It could've covered all and even more bases in about the same amount of screentime. I also don't think it would cause too many complaints.

(I think many of those who loved the ending would've loved it no matter how they did it)

[DodgingCars]

I never read the books and I thought the ending dragged -- though mostly because it felt like it could have ended several times.

I loved the movie and consider the series to be my favorite movies of all time, but I did think the ending seemed ... not as well done as it could have been.

However.. that didn't bother me nearly as much as the cheesy "bed scene".

[chess]

Originally posted by DodgingCars
...However.. they didn't bother me nearly as much as the cheesy "bed scene".

ughhh...i forgot how much that sucked. :yack:

[greg9x]

Well, i'll go with the ending wasn't long enough, but obviously people already have problems so guess they couldn't have gone on any more. But if the movie had ended with anything but "Well, im back." there would be much more dissapointment/outrage... THAT is the 'ending' and it rightfully wasn't messed with to make it more 'cinematic'.
But I do hope there is more in the EE.

Greg

[Patman]

All that was missing in the "Bed" scene were the pillow fights with down feathers flying everywhere...

[MasterCXtreme]

Originally posted by necros
... and then save the longer, drawn-out ending for the EE DVD.
I was thinking that too. The bow would've been a good place to end. Do that, and not piss off all the regular movie-goers with 'fake endings.'

Don't yell at me for saying this, I loved the endings. But when I went to see it a second time with not-as-big fans of LOTR, the whole "20 Minute Wrap-up-ending" pissed em off.

[MasterCXtreme]

Actually, if he didn't 'Fade To Black' so many times, this wouldn't have been a big of a problem. It wouldn't have felt like there were opportunities to end it. Plus, the audience wouldn't have felt tricked. But I guess PJ was getting at a style there.

[DRG]

Originally posted by Groucho
Yeah, why couldn't they just cut to a hip-hop song and shown hilarious "blooper" outtakes instead? Character development = BORING. "Blooper" reel = AWESOME.

:up: Yet another reason why Cold Mountain will beat RotK come Oscar time.

[Dr. DVD]

Originally posted by DRG
:up: Yet another reason why Cold Mountain will beat RotK come Oscar time.


Does Cold Mountain have a blooper reel? If so, that might be worth checking it out for, as Nicole Kidman and Jude Law blowing their lines=comic gold. ;)

I must admit the bedroom scene was cheesy and somewhat disturbing if you think to long about it. (A bunch of men jumping into a bed while Ian McKellan laughs does not conjure a good image.)
I had no problem with the ending, but I could see how average joes would. But then again, since when do awards try to cater to them? Gladiator aside.

[gcribbs]

I loved the endings especially the second time. It seemed to flow better knowing they were happening.

[TCG]

Originally posted by gcribbs
I loved the endings especially the second time. It seemed to flow better knowing they were happening.

same here.

So i counted the fades.

3 black:

1. on Mt. Doom "the end of all things"

2. after Grey Havens

3. The End


2 White:

1. after coronation

2. after reunion

[eXcentris]

Originally posted by chess
i hate to say it, but i think new line was right on this one. a galadriel voiceover after the coronation sending each of the main characters on their way, describing the scouring of the shire and the death of saruman, and bridging to the gray havens scene would have been much better. it also would have echoed the opening of FOTR.



I totally agree. In fact, I and the friend I saw this with made the exact same comment after the movie was over. The ending as it is is a long, manipulative, overly melodramatic affair that just seems to drag on forever. Forget about the "but it's a 9-10 hours trilogy!" which is really a non argument unless you're watching the whole trilogy in a single sitting. Don't get me wrong, I loved this film but it just has too many flaws to be a great film. The ending, the ill chosen opening, the madness of Denethor, the Palantir scene(s), etc... But if you dare criticize these films, you are immediately attacked by hordes of LOTR zealots. :)

[gcribbs]

Originally posted by eXcentris
I totally agree. In fact, I and the friend I saw this with made the exact same comment after the movie was over. The ending as it is is a long, manipulative, overly melodramatic affair that just seems to drag on forever. Forget about the "but it's a 9-10 hours trilogy!" which is really a non argument unless you're watching the whole trilogy in a single sitting. Don't get me wrong, I loved this film but it just has too many flaws to be a great film. The ending, the ill chosen opening, the madness of Denethor, the Palantir scene(s), etc... But if you dare criticize these films, you are immediately attacked by hordes of LOTR zealots. :)

I understand that some will not like the film. Or they might find faults in parts of the movies or choices made by Peter Jackson.

It is a movie so by definition some will like it and others will not.

No movie is perfect.

The things you want to change would make some very happy. Others would complain about the voiceover being used to finish the movie instead of showing us what happened.

They had a no win situation and I feel they made the right choice. Some think they did not.

I think it was a great film. You think it is good not great.

[TCG]

Originally posted by eXcentris
IForget about the "but it's a 9-10 hours trilogy!" which is really a non argument unless you're watching the whole trilogy in a single sitting.
No, this IS a valid argument. It's the conclusion of the WHOLE story, not just the 3rd film.

the only reason its not a single 10-hour film is because its not practical. it was split into 3 parts, just like the book, although its ONE continous story.

[The Zizz]

Originally posted by Patman
All that was missing in the "Bed" scene were the pillow fights with down feathers flying everywhere...

Lol, I just saw this tonight, and I loved the movie except for this scene. A bunch of people started snickering and even laughing out loud during this, and my girlfriend said "are they going to have a pillowfight or something?" That scene really took me out of the movie...I was glad the ending went on quite a bit afterwards to help wipe out how bad this small scene was done.

[masetodd]

My biggest complaint is the "slow motion" scenes every Peter Jackson uses. Its like everyone has to say their lines slooooowwwwlllllyyyyy. It's a little overdone for my taste.

As much as this is "one big movie", there is still a pacing issue. If it weren't for pacing, there wouldn't even be a theatrical cut or Extended Edition cut - they would be the same thing.

Anyway, I loved the movie, but agree with the other posters that the ending(s) distracted me from the overall movie experience. Whenever you have most of the audience sighing and getting up and sitting back down, its kind of hard to enjoy the movie.

[BizRodian]

I think all those scenes were good and did have their point, even if some were overdone... but I wish that through editing, or whatever, that they just flowed better or were better paced or something because I have to side with the people who say it needed some work.

[JohnL]

The ending is not just a matter of saying goodbye, it has to play out that way to be true to the themes of self-sacrifice that were so carefully developed during the three films. The Hollywood-yea-we're-heroes ending would have contradicted those themes. These films are actually about something and the ending asks the viewer to reflect on the meaning of the story. People who didn't like the ending--reinsert that brain you checked at the door and start using it!

[Regurgitator]

Wow.. the ROTK did indeed could have ended 4 times earlier but I still liked them all.

What I can't wait to see is when they finally release the Extended Edition of the ROTK when it comes out on DVD... even more alternate endings!!

[jekbrown]

Originally posted by TCG
same here.

So i counted the fades.

3 black:

1. on Mt. Doom "the end of all things"

2. after Grey Havens

3. The End


2 White:

1. after coronation

2. after reunion

what the HELL?!?!? I call reverse-discrimination! PJ is racist!! why are there 3 black fades and only 2 white ones? Thats it, Im boycotting everything PJ does until this injustice is resolved!!!!!!

j

[Skorp]

Originally posted by TCG
So i counted the fades.

3 black:

1. on Mt. Doom "the end of all things"

2. after Grey Havens

3. The End


2 White:

1. after coronation

2. after reunion
You must have seen a different version than the one I saw.

The Grey Havens goes to blazing white as the ship sails off. And there was no fade after the coronation. The camera pulls back from Minas Tirith, which then turns into the map with Frodo's voice-over.

[TCG]

^^
well, I'll be going for a 3rd time soon.

[jayson1017]

I was disappointed with the ending. Too many longing looks... Made me feel uncomfortable for the characters.

[cleaver]

I thought the ending was perfect, exactly like in the book (before those pesky appendices start. Last 2 words of the movie and book exactly the same, so I was like the only guy at the theater who knew it wasn't another fake ending.

[Rypro 525]

if everyone is bitching about the 20 min ending, wait unitl the ee comes out, another possible 10 or 20 min to wrap up the other characters. (oh, and the ending didn't drag at all. if jackson had left all the scene's at the Shire at the end of the movie, on the cutting room floor and indeed end on the bowing of the hobbits, many people would be up in arms, and there would be endless complaints that "the ending wasn't long enough)