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lesterlong
12-06-03, 08:10 PM
<img src=http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/Action/The_Last_Samurai/ls23.jpg>
or
<img src=http://www.sprout.org/toshiro/images/lastsamurai/sanjuro4.jpg>

Who's the better samurai? I think this is a no-brainer but I want to see the results. :)

Krug
12-06-03, 08:55 PM
Make Mine Mifune!

Ginwen
12-06-03, 09:12 PM
It's completely unfair for me to vote, since I won't be seeing The Last Samurai, but I voted anyway. Toshiro it is, Toshiro it must be.

RyoHazuki
12-06-03, 10:15 PM
http://www.haro-online.com/stuff/ghostdo1.jpg

Robert
12-06-03, 10:42 PM
Thats like asking us: Whos better? Mother Teresa or Adolf Hitler?

troystiffler
12-06-03, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Robert
Thats like asking us: Whos better? Mother Teresa or Adolf Hitler?

Haha. So who gave Hitler three votes?

I voted Mifune.

Jackskeleton
12-06-03, 10:57 PM
wow, what a silly choice..

inri222
12-07-03, 12:15 AM
Also, the better actor.

http://www.sprout.org/toshiro/images/pics/cover.jpeg

Ian11
12-07-03, 12:31 AM
Kinda reminds me of that Quizno's radio commercial pitting "Ninja warriors" against accountants. To spell it out more clearly Mifune would be the ninjas.

Mifune's relationship to Kurosawa is like Robert DeNiro is to Scorsese, Peter Sellers is to Kubrick, Max Von Sydow is to Bergman, John Wayne to Ford, or Marcello Mastrioanni to Fellini. And not even these heady icons IMO can chew scenery like Mifune.

Jackskeleton
12-07-03, 12:56 AM
Might as welll throw in some more random figures to join this Battle royale.


http://www.toonzone.net/shows/images/samuraijack2.jpg

http://www.uma-thurman.net/filmguide/killbill01.jpg

http://www.hill-kleerup.org/dave/comics/images/usagi.gif

http://www.animenmore.com/statues/haomaru.jpg

Scorpio
12-07-03, 01:00 AM
How can you pose such a question?
The answer is quite clear.
Few now come greater than Toshiro Mifune.

Scorpio
12-07-03, 01:01 AM
Sonny Chiba. :up:

Scorpio
12-07-03, 01:04 AM
http://the.animearchive.org/ninjascroll/1/jubei12.jpg

cruzness
12-07-03, 01:15 AM
Technically Ken Watanabe is the title character in The Last Samurai not Cruise. Anywayz I voted Mifune

Corvin
12-07-03, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by cruzness
Technically Ken Watanabe is the title character in The Last Samurai not Cruise. Anywayz I voted Mifune

Is it, though?

Cruise dons the samurai gear, rides and fights with the samurai, and has begun to live by (some of) their rules. After Watanabe's character kills himself on the battlefield, Tom Cruise would technically be "the last samurai" alive. Because all the others were killed in the last stand. Just how I took it, anyway.

Anyway, I think the answer to the question at hand is obvious: Tom Cruise. Definitely Tom Cruise.

...kidding.

talemyn
12-07-03, 01:59 AM
http://www.4x44u.com/Features/PetroworksSamurai/image01.jpg

cruzness
12-07-03, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by Corvin
Is it, though?

Cruise dons the samurai gear, rides and fights with the samurai, and has begun to live by (some of) their rules. After Watanabe's character kills himself on the battlefield, Tom Cruise would technically be "the last samurai" alive. Because all the others were killed in the last stand. Just how I took it, anyway.

Anyway, I think the answer to the question at hand is obvious: Tom Cruise. Definitely Tom Cruise.

...kidding.

I didn't even think about that.....good point.

D-Ball
12-07-03, 02:27 AM
This is like asking "who is a better Western star: Clint Eastwood or Colin Farrell?"

Snowlarbear
12-07-03, 02:48 AM
i thought Ken Watanabe actually did a great job. good enough to compete with mifune, anyway.

QuiGonJosh
12-07-03, 09:03 AM
Toshiro!

indycohiba
12-07-03, 11:13 AM
This is a joke.

Sessa17
12-07-03, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Snowlarbear
i thought Ken Watanabe actually did a great job. good enough to compete with mifune, anyway.


rotfl

He did do an excellent job, maybe good enough to get a tip of the hit from Mifune, but to compete with him? Not even in the same league.


Oh yeah. And the obligatory Samurai pic :D


http://hometown.aol.com/samipage/images/ecreek6.jpg

sicklerice
12-07-03, 02:42 PM
The only thing Cruise has in common with ancient samurai is a total height of 5' 1".

Fielding Mellish
12-07-03, 07:29 PM
How do I put this tactfully?

Well, uh...

Are you ****in' kidding me?

beefjerky
12-07-03, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by sicklerice
The only thing Cruise has in common with ancient samurai is a total height of 5' 1".

Your knowledge of japanese people is amazing.

Pressplay
12-07-03, 11:28 PM
10 rice balls says Mifune rules against the Cruister

garolo
12-08-03, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Pressplay
10 rice balls says Mifune rules against the Cruister

10 oden says that Shintaro Katzu would give Mifune a run for his money (and did too, in one film). Cruise is just one of those pretty boy samurai. :)

Numanoid
12-08-03, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by beefjerky
Your knowledge of japanese people is amazing. Yeah! My wife is Japanese and she's...um, well actually she IS 5'1". :D

chente
12-08-03, 02:15 PM
Are we really having this conversation? Mifune.

Charlie Goose
12-08-03, 03:55 PM
Ok sure, but can Mifune wear Rayban sunglasses like Cruise? Can he hang from the ceiling like Cruise? Can he kick the everloving crap out of the oatmeal guy like Cruise? So there.

http://charliegoose.homestead.com/files/goose.jpg Honk!

chente
12-08-03, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Goose
Ok sure, but can Mifune wear Rayban sunglasses like Cruise? Can he hang from the ceiling like Cruise? Can he kick the everloving crap out of the oatmeal guy like Cruise? So there.

http://charliegoose.homestead.com/files/goose.jpg Honk!

Unlikely, he's been dead for years :)

theneobez
12-08-03, 07:57 PM
Alright, let's hear it, who actually voted Cruise.

jarofclay73
12-08-03, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Corvin
Is it, though?

Cruise dons the samurai gear, rides and fights with the samurai, and has begun to live by (some of) their rules. After Watanabe's character kills himself on the battlefield, Tom Cruise would technically be "the last samurai" alive. Because all the others were killed in the last stand. Just how I took it, anyway.

I took it to mean the last group of samurai. Samurai is both singular and plural. So, I don't feel that "The Last Samurai" has to necessarily be Tom Cruise. Really, I don't think Tom Cruise's character became a true samurai anyway. By the way, this is coming from a Japanese-American perspective.

Thrush
12-09-03, 01:46 AM
No love for Shintarô Katsu (Zatoichi) ?

garolo
12-09-03, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Thrush
No love for Shintarô Katsu (Zatoichi) ?
Read the quote in my sig then scroll up.

Fielding Mellish
12-09-03, 10:38 AM
Much love for Mr. Katsu. In fact, I personally love the Zatoichi series most of all.

I just didn't know he was an option.

flashburn
12-09-03, 11:03 AM
Worst Poll EVER!!

steebo777
12-09-03, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by flashburn
Worst Poll EVER!!
Agreed.

grrrah
12-09-03, 02:16 PM
tom cruise knows how to make alcoholic beverages, so he is a winner in my book

chente
12-09-03, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by grrrah
tom cruise knows how to make alcoholic beverages, so he is a winner in my book

True. When he pours, he reigns.

talemyn
12-09-03, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by chente
True. When he pours, he reigns. -ohbfrank-



:lol:

rexinnih
12-09-03, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by sicklerice
The only thing Cruise has in common with ancient samurai is a total height of 5' 1".

That my friends is the only accurate part of the entire movie.

BTW, mentioning Tom Cruise, Mifune and samurai in the same sentence is an insult to Mr. Mifune's memory.

TREX1993
12-09-03, 11:59 PM
The DVD Talk "Poll" function has just jumped the shark...

devilpants
12-10-03, 02:56 PM
Next week's poll: Steve McQueen or Lorenzo Lamas?

TREX1993
12-10-03, 03:14 PM
Alfred Hitchcock or McG?

Hokeyboy
12-10-03, 10:48 PM
Salma Hayek or Mimi from the Drew Carey show?

cokeguy
12-11-03, 06:39 AM
Originally posted by Ian11
Kinda reminds me of that Quizno's radio commercial pitting "Ninja warriors" against accountants. To spell it out more clearly Mifune would be the ninjas.

Mifune's relationship to Kurosawa is like Robert DeNiro is to Scorsese, Peter Sellers is to Kubrick, Max Von Sydow is to Bergman, John Wayne to Ford, or Marcello Mastrioanni to Fellini. And not even these heady icons IMO can chew scenery like Mifune.

I can see the rest of these, but Sellers and Kubrick collaborated on a total of two movies. What about Hitchcock and either Grant or Stewart? Von Sternberg and Dietrich? Etc.

Dan

pro-bassoonist
12-11-03, 07:21 AM
this has got to be the most stupid thread ever.....what are you trying to compare? Those are 2 great actors each important on its own.

Who's a better cowboy.....John Wayne or T.Mifune?

Geeeezzzz.

garolo
12-11-03, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by pro-bassoonist
this has got to be the most stupid thread ever.....what are you trying to compare? Those are 2 great actors each important on its own.

Who's a better cowboy.....John Wayne or T.Mifune?

Geeeezzzz.

Way off the thread subject but...
Do they even herd cattle in Japan? I remember reading that Mifune was an accomplished horseman. In Throne of Blood he shoots arrows while the horse is in full gallop. A double was used for most of Wayne's riding "stunts". So, I'll say Mifune is the better "cowboy". Now back to your regularly scheduled nonsense.

:D