DVD Talk
finding nemo in fullscreen [Archive] - DVD Talk Forum
 
Best Sellers
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
The Longest Day
Buy: $54.99 $24.99
9.
10.
DVD Blowouts
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
Alien [Blu-ray]
Buy: $19.99 $9.99
8.
9.
10.

PDA
DVD Reviews

View Full Version : finding nemo in fullscreen


whynotsmile
11-05-03, 10:56 PM
sorry if this has been mentioned before, but in the introduction on disk 2, the guy in the red shirt says that the fullscreen version is not chopped, but enhanced, so we get the full screen without losing anything.

Sounds interesting.


and speaking of Finding Nemo, did anyone else find that fish charades game to be hard? lol I feel like a total dumbass, but i missed the first 3 in a row

Rypro 525
11-05-03, 10:58 PM
they reformatted it in full screen so you may be able to see more, but everything feels cramped, and still, the movie should always be seen in widescreen

reubs82
11-05-03, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Rypro 525
...and still, the movie should always be seen in widescreen

Do you mean Finding Nemo or any movie in general? If you mean any movie in general I think some would take issue with that. Also, what if you're showing this movie to a screaming kid and the only way to shut him up is to put the FS version on? I think I'd take FS over WS (oar) just to shut the screaming kid up, but that's just me...

Scorpio
11-05-03, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by reubs82
Also, what if you're showing this movie to a screaming kid and the only way to shut him up is to put the FS version on? I think I'd take FS over WS (oar) just to shut the screaming kid up, but that's just me...

That is quite a discriminating screaming little kid.

CheapBastid
11-05-03, 11:52 PM
They had a featurette on the process where they actually digitally re-composed many shots/scenes for fullscreen.

Kinda cool.

caiman
11-06-03, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Rypro 525
they reformatted it in full screen so you may be able to see more, but everything feels cramped,

Please explain that. To me, open matte FS transfers feel way too open.

There's a reason the dead space on the top and bottom is covered up... it's dead space.

jaeufraser
11-06-03, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by caiman
Please explain that. To me, open matte FS transfers feel way too open.

There's a reason the dead space on the top and bottom is covered up... it's dead space.


What it means is that, since these are CG animated movies, they actually go back to certain shots and move the characters around to reframe the shot so it works in fullscreen. While I imagine it isn't done in every shot, it is done in the ones that wouldn't work if pan and scanned. Pretty impressive actually.

speedy1961
11-06-03, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by reubs82
Also, what if you're showing this movie to a screaming kid and the only way to shut him up is to put the FS version on? I think I'd take FS over WS (oar) just to shut the screaming kid up, but that's just me...

I would just pop a potato in his mouth to silence the screaming.

Hokeyboy
11-06-03, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by reubs82
Also, what if you're showing this movie to a screaming kid and the only way to shut him up is to put the FS version on? I think I'd take FS over WS (oar) just to shut the screaming kid up, but that's just me... How about a beating?

TheKing
11-06-03, 07:56 AM
How many kids do you know that actually scream due to black bars?

Kids don't care about the black bars, most of them have grown up in a time where letterboxing is far more common than it was even 10 years ago. It's the parents and the grandparents that mostly complain about pictures not filling up the whole screen.

Not that any of this matters for Nemo since you get both versions anyway. Watch whatever version you want, but don't try and pin a kid's crying on black bars, maybe they're crying because their friends have 57" Widescreen TV's while their folks only have a 19".

Goldberg74
11-06-03, 08:21 AM
My kids love the black bars... I just turn the lights off, then they think they are in a theater. :up:

Groucho
11-06-03, 08:29 AM
My daughter had never complained about the black bars, and I show her all her movies in widescreen. I don't know where the myth that "kids hate widescreen" originated from, since it's almost always adults who don't like the black bars...kids will accept anything you show them, and are must more adaptive to new technology.

The reformatted fullscreen thing isn't new. Pixar first did it with A Bug's Life.

The Void
11-06-03, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Groucho
The reformatted fullscreen thing isn't new. Pixar first did it with A Bug's Life.
There is a featurette showing how this was done on the Bug's Life Collectors Edition DVD. It's really interesting but I won't watch the fullscreen version.

JLyon1515
11-06-03, 10:04 AM
They digitally recomposed the frames just like in A Bug's Life

Check out these two links for comparison images between widescreen and fullscreen to see how things were recomposed.

http://www.remotecentral.com/dvd/abugslf.htm
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/dvdreviews/bugslife.htm

Dammit
11-06-03, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by TheKing
How many kids do you know that actually scream due to black bars?

Kids don't care about the black bars...

Would you like to place a bet on that? My friend's 4 year old kid does exactly that. I tried to put in Monsters Inc when he was over here one time and went to widescreen and he started screaming bloody murder.

Rypro 525
11-06-03, 10:36 AM
i know there is a link either here or on one of the other forums, where we see a comparision between the wide and full versions of monster's inc. even though we may see more, it still feels a bit cramped. And with people and black bars, just put on mtv2 and most of the videos are in widescreen, and you won't find many complaints.

Roto
11-06-03, 12:03 PM
I don't think I would show a movie to a screaming kid, but that's just me.

majorjoe23
11-06-03, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Roto
I don't think I would show a movie to a screaming kid, but that's just me.

I keep a video tape showing a baby being born on hand. When the kid is screaming, I pop it in and play it in reverse.

"Stop screaming, or that could be you!"

DonnachaOne
11-06-03, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by majorjoe23
I keep a video tape showing a baby being born on hand. When they kid is screaming, I pop it in and play it in reverse.

"Stop screaming, or that could be you!"
:lol:

Ephemeral_Life
11-06-03, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by TheKing
How many kids do you know that actually scream due to black bars?

Kids don't care about the black bars, most of them have grown up in a time where letterboxing is far more common than it was even 10 years ago. It's the parents and the grandparents that mostly complain about pictures not filling up the whole screen.

My 4-year old daughter doesn't scream, but on DVDs that have both versions she definitely wants the full screen version... She'll learn eventually!

Brian McHale
11-06-03, 01:21 PM
Let's see... Kid screams to get his way. Parent gives in to shut him up. Just what has parent taught kid?

Spiky
11-06-03, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Dammit
Would you like to place a bet on that? My friend's 4 year old kid does exactly that. I tried to put in Monsters Inc when he was over here one time and went to widescreen and he started screaming bloody murder.
Turn it off when this happens. Do NOT teach the kids to cry/scream for what they want. Trust me, turn it off and tell him he doesn't get the movie until he is quiet. Be calm, don't yell (well, maybe one word just to get through his yelling), be firm. Pull the disc out and start putting it away. He WILL shut up. Then be nice and offer the FF version if he really wants it. This goes for anything, movie/toy/candy/etc.

I know, I'm one of the worst non-OAR haters on the board, but some things are more important. Being nice to the neighbor kid would be a valid exception in my book. BTW, my kids prefer WS. :D

In case someone wants qualifications: I have a 5 year old, 3 year old, and 1 year old. They are NOT allowed to scream like this over anything. (and yes, I'm crazy and a little tired)

Cornelius1047
11-06-03, 04:33 PM
Or he could shake him, right? Just shake him till he shuts up? Please?

K

Hokeyboy
11-06-03, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Cornelius1047
Or he could shake him, right? Just shake him till he shuts up? Please?

K Nothing shuts a kid up like a soldering iron to the nads. Damn permissive parenting...

Seriously though, enabling a screaming, temper-tantrum-throwing kid by caving in and giving them whatever they want in order to curtail their inexcusable behavior is pretty much the worst example of parenting I can imagine...

Spiderbite
11-06-03, 04:48 PM
But the widescreen version is fullscreen!

(if you have a 16X9 TV like me :))

Eric F
11-06-03, 05:46 PM
Seriously though, enabling a screaming, temper-tantrum-throwing kid by caving in and giving them whatever they want in order to curtail their inexcusable behavior is pretty much the worst example of parenting I can imagine...And as we all know on DVDTalk, nothing matters more than OAR and we have to draw the line somewhere!

Dammit
11-06-03, 07:26 PM
For the record, I reiterate, it was not my kid. :P

To be perfectly honest the little shit scared the hell out of me. As soon as I clicked widescreen he screamed much louder than I would have thought he was capable. My girlfriend's kid just looked at him like he was nuts.

Deadman31
11-06-03, 07:30 PM
just give em an insert. Nothing like reading or learning that shuts a kid up pretty fast.

rasalas
11-06-03, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by whynotsmile
sorry if this has been mentioned before, but in the introduction on disk 2, the guy in the red shirt says that the fullscreen version is not chopped, but enhanced, so we get the full screen without losing anything.

Sounds interesting.

And on Disc 1, co-director Andrew Stanton notes in the intro that Disc 1 contains a widescreen presentation and that Disc 2 contains a full-screen presentation. (A quickie graphic illustrates how the presentations compare.) Then he says (paraphrased), <b>"If I were you, I'd watch the widescreen version first."</b> (Then he says to watch the making-of documentary and then the widescreen version again with the visual commentary.)

That sounds even more interesting--that the director wants viewers to watch the widescreen version.

bjh_18
11-06-03, 09:31 PM
I watched that intro about the fullscreen too shortly after picking up the dvd on tuesday. So I was curious to see exactly what the comparison was, so I put the widescreen in one dvd player and the fullscreen in another on 2 TVs, side by side, and went to the exact same moment in the movie on both discs.

The fullscreen, as suspect, does have a little bit more on the top and bottom, but it loses quite a bit on the sides. So, it's not exactly like they lead you to believe in the intro. Put them side by side and see for yourself. You're still losing some of what was suppose to be seen and gaining some of what wasn't suppose to be seen.

Cardinal Fang
11-06-03, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Deadman31
just give em an insert. Nothing like reading or learning that shuts a kid up pretty fast.

:lol:

aperry
11-07-03, 12:29 AM
Anyone got screenshots showing what they are talking about by "enhanced" full-screen? I understand the description given, but would like to see it for myself.

Or, if someone could point me to a specific scene where I could see it in action, that would be great too!

Ian11
11-07-03, 06:03 AM
This is the one exception where I intentionally chose the "full screen version" over the "widescreen version". Esp. since I don't have a widescreen TV and the picture is just bigger on my "small" 32" screen. If everything the filmakers intended to be onscreen is there, that's what matters most. Of course it can slightly change the overall feel and composition of the movie (from what I saw in the theatre), but again I do prefer the bigger picture.

When I get my Widescreen HD TV that's what Disc 1 is for. :D

Feathers McGraw
11-07-03, 07:35 AM
The recompositing thing is hardly what they make it out like. On A Bugs Life, you still see massive pan and scanning, and tons of stuff is still cut off.

It's better than just plain pan and scan, but in the end, it's still just a 3 dressed up as as 9. Go with the prom queen, go widescreen.

Jay G.
11-07-03, 09:33 PM
Bug's Life was still 50% Pan N Scan. However, with Nemo, I can beleive that they went back and "open matted" the entire film. It made enough in the theatres to justify the lavish treatment.

However, I still watched the WS version, and will watch the WS version on all future viewings.

bjh's comments are the most informative, since the reformatting process sounds a lot more like a Super35 reformatting than the straight open-matte the director's intro on disc 2 suggests.