For various reasons, this one of the few televisions I could choose. I got a good deal on it, and it's much nicer than the 55" Toshiba 4:3 it's replacing.
However, I got to do a LOT of research on the Toshiba before I bought it. I got to do almost zero on the Mitsu. I know the television is supposed to be really good, but it's not here yet, and I can feel buyer's remorse creeping in.
Most notably, it doesn't appear to support 720p. Now, the Toshiba didn't either, but I was hoping the new television would. Is it really that big of deal? I keep seeing mention that the Mitsu will upconvert automatically to 1080i, but I can't find any confirmation of this.
So, if anyone can tell me anything about this television, and how good or how bad it is, it would be greatly appreciated.
chipmac
11-03-03, 06:33 AM
Well it's a good TV but to be honest you would've been better off with the 413 model IMO. As for the 720p support it's only a concern if you want to play XBox 720p games. Any other 720p HD source you feed it will be converted to 1080i for display. Any 480i signal gets converted to 480p unless you get a STB that will convert it to 1080i. As a new Mits owner you owe it to yourself to head over to www.HomeTheaterSpot.com to learn as much as you can about getting the most from it. Good luck.
einTier
11-03-03, 11:41 AM
The 413 wasn't available. It was a replacement for the Toshiba that failed while still under extended warranty.
Unfortunately, my wife likes regular television more than movies, and I was not 'allowed' to get anything that would leave her with a smaller 4:3 picture (and neither of us likes stretch mode). Which meant either another 55"+ 4:3 or a 65" 16:9. There were only two 16:9 65"s in my price range. The Mitsubishi and some brand name I didn't recognise.
So, while I would have liked more selection, I was extremely limited. Now, I'm just trying to convince myself that I actually have a good television.
As for 720p, yes, I would like to play X-Box in 720p. Are you saying it won't convert it up to 1080i for the XBox, but it will for other sources?
drmoze
11-03-03, 11:51 AM
The mitsu is sweeet. As suggested above, head over to HTS. And pick up a calibration dvd (DVE or Avia) and run through the basic set-up. Initially, turning color and contrast down to about 40% should be about right, and be sure to run the advanced (multi-gridpoint) convergence.
einTier
11-03-03, 04:03 PM
I've got Avia. I did a pretty good job on the Toshiba, but it developed linearity problems that "couldn't be fixed" and thus, nessecitated the replacement.
drmoze
11-03-03, 11:42 PM
You can adjust the linearity of the Mitsu grid (green) as well as the overscan thru the service menu with the remote.
einTier
11-04-03, 11:26 AM
ah, that would be nice. I was adjusting the convergence grid today, and I was quite upset that I couldn't move the green at all.
I understand WHY they don't want to let Joe SixPack move those dots around, but I've got some linearity issues that I need to fix.
So how do I get to the service menu? I didn't see a Mitsu service menu guide on Keohi.
Joshic
11-04-03, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by einTier
As for 720p, yes, I would like to play X-Box in 720p. Are you saying it won't convert it up to 1080i for the XBox, but it will for other sources? Your Mitsu TV doesn't do any converting at all. Almost all Xbox HD games are in 720p, not 1080i. Mitsu TVs do not support 720p at all. There are other TVs that will take a 720p signal and upconvert to 1080i, but not the Mitsu. So basically you will not be playing any Xbox games in HD on your TV. You will have to settle for EDTV (enhanced definition 480p).
With other sources (such as broadcast HD TV), some stations broadcast in 1080i (NBC), and others in 720p (ABC). But all HD Receivers (aka STBs) will convert the HD signals from the broadcast into a compatible format for your TV (1080i in your case).
So the only HD content you'll be missing out on (at least for now) is HD games on XBox. Will Xbox2 or PS3 support 1080i or 720p? Will they support both? Who knows. But if gaming is important to you (like it is for me) then you want a TV that supports both 720p and 1080i.
drmoze
11-04-03, 03:59 PM
You need to go to hometheaterspot and join up for access to the tweaks. Well worth it in the long run, step-by-step instructions (and cautionary advice!) for doing just what you want.
My grid lines are straight all around (aligned the grid with the screen edges), 4.5% overscan allaround, and everything is converged nicely...
einTier
11-05-03, 03:54 PM
Are you saying I have to pay money to join up? What's the difference between levels?
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