John Travolta (scientologist)
Sean Penn (anti war)
Pier Paolo Pasolini (Marxist)
Ronald Reagan (right winger)
Charlton Heston (president of NRA)
etc.
Edited to add: While this does not bother me, I was wondering if there are people who feel this this way. Notice I am referring to ideoligies and not their talent / IQ / looks , so please no "I refuse to watch (place name here) movies because they can't (act / direct / etc.)" or "I refuse to watch (place name here) movies because they are (stupid / ugly / etc.)"
Groucho
10-16-03, 04:30 PM
None.
Pants
10-16-03, 04:32 PM
None
Even though I dislike some actors political views and I often feel they're not artists but rather activists or spokesmen (ie, they don't speak through their art but rather through press releases and demonstrations) I'll still see some of their movies if there is good word of mouth.
Jackskeleton
10-16-03, 04:52 PM
None.
I might dislike the person's views, but that wont effect me in actually going and seeing their work. simple as that.
devilshalo
10-16-03, 04:56 PM
None
REL77
10-16-03, 05:08 PM
The only person I wont watch is:
Pauly Shore (Idiotology)
Cant stand that guy.... Hahaha...JK
Sessa17
10-16-03, 05:16 PM
There is NO actor/artist that I won't watch b/c of their beliefs. However there are MANY actors/artists that I will not contribute one little penny towards any of their work b/c of their in your face beliefs. For instance, I will NEVER rent, go to see, or anything that involves me paying to see movies with Clooney, Sarandon, robbins, Penn or any of those crusaders for views I don't believe in. But if a friend of mine has a DVD of a movie of their's that I want to see, I will borrow it. I know it makes no sense to most, & I wish I wasn't that way, but I can't help it. It's how I am.
Giantrobo
10-16-03, 05:19 PM
I agree, none.
If I stopped watching Hollywood movies due to ideology I would have to stop watching 99% of the product due to Hollywood's Left leanings.
However, I did have a really hard time buying my 1st(and last) RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE cd. The group was just to out there (socialists) for me and the same goes for Audioslave.
Darren Garrison
10-16-03, 11:02 PM
I'll WATCH things with Charlton Heston, but I won't BUY anything with him just because I don't want one single of penny of my money to reach his (not yet cold and dead but one can dream) hand.
lesterlong
10-16-03, 11:15 PM
I will not stop myself from seeing a particular actor because I disagree with his/her beliefs. I will, however, not see a movie where the story revolves around idealogies I totally disagree with. (John Q, some other crap that's not coming to mind right now)
RyoHazuki
10-17-03, 12:09 AM
Halle Berry (I have a dreamology)
Sierra Disc
10-17-03, 12:40 AM
None. Unless you know, Hitler, Saddam Hussein and Dick Cheney all teamed up to make a beach comedy together. That I'd probably skip.
Birrman54
10-17-03, 12:41 AM
I wont watch anything directed by Roman Polanski (pedophile).
and I refuse to ever buy anything from Rage against the Machine.
birrman54
Bagheera
10-17-03, 12:42 AM
Dont forget Ed Beagly JR. and his (ride your bike to workolgy)
heh heh j/k i love you Ed
Sierra Disc
10-17-03, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Sessa17
There is NO actor/artist that I won't watch b/c of their beliefs. However there are MANY actors/artists that I will not contribute one little penny towards any of their work b/c of their in your face beliefs. For instance, I will NEVER rent, go to see, or anything that involves me paying to see movies with Clooney, Sarandon, robbins, Penn or any of those crusaders for views I don't believe in. But if a friend of mine has a DVD of a movie of their's that I want to see, I will borrow it. I know it makes no sense to most, & I wish I wasn't that way, but I can't help it. It's how I am.
You know, you can say that yes, technically there is a difference there I suppose, but it's all just semantics I think. You borrow a DVD and see it you're still watching their work, but you get to "say" you're not supporting it and soothe whatever your views say you have against them. Kinda seems like you're trying to have it both ways. But that's just IMHO of course...
flux=rad
10-17-03, 01:19 AM
It seems oddly ironic (or perhaps oddly fitting) to not buy something from someone for their communist/socialist beliefs.
DeputyDave
10-17-03, 10:52 AM
I don't have a problem watching movies staring idiots who think their politics matter to people. I do have a problem with Susan Sarandon though. After seeing her face and hearing her screech all over the news leading up to and during the war, I find it hard to suspend my belief enough to watch her in a movie. An actor's job is make us believe they actually are the character they are playing. If their "real self" intrudes too much into our lives it makes it harder to do.
That said the only entertainer I might "boycott" is Polanski because he is a convicted criminal and needs to be in prison.
Groucho
10-17-03, 10:58 AM
It should be noted that boycotting people like Polanski or Silva is a bit different. I wouldn't call pedophilia an "ideology."
wendersfan
10-17-03, 11:12 AM
No. I could easily watch a double feature of, say, Klute and True Grit, for example.
I think shutting out input from people with whom you disagree is indicative of a lack of confidence in your own beliefs.
balancer
10-17-03, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by wendersfan
No. I could easily watch a double feature of, say, Klute and True Grit, for example.
I think shutting out input from people with whom you disagree is indicative of a lack of confidence in your own beliefs.
I agree about shutting out input, but that doesn't really include movies starring people that you don't agree politically with. Being a liberal, it's pretty easy to not support conservatives, etc in Hollywood without even trying. So the conservative creative braintrust has Arnold, Bruce Willis, Reagan, and Heston. Sort of says something itself, doesn't it?
Numanoid
10-17-03, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by balancer
I agree about shutting out input, but that doesn't really include movies starring people that you don't agree politically with. Being a liberal, it's pretty easy to not support conservatives, etc in Hollywood without even trying. So the conservative creative braintrust has Arnold, Bruce Willis, Reagan, and Heston. Sort of says something itself, doesn't it?
I believe Reagan was a Democrat in his acting days.
balancer
10-17-03, 11:45 AM
actually he did a fair amount of 'acting' from 1980-88 ;)
Groucho
10-17-03, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Numanoid
I believe Reagan was a Democrat in his acting days. As was Heston.
wendersfan
10-17-03, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by balancer
I agree about shutting out input, but that doesn't really include movies starring people that you don't agree politically with. Being a liberal, it's pretty easy to not support conservatives, etc in Hollywood without even trying. So the conservative creative braintrust has Arnold, Bruce Willis, Reagan, and Heston. Sort of says something itself, doesn't it?
One thing it says is that you left James Stewart off your list, but that screws up your average. :)
There are many conservatives in Hollywood that don't broadcast that point very much, so what do you do about people of whose ideology you are ignorant?
movielib
10-17-03, 12:16 PM
None. Except Michael Moore. But he's not an artist.
Groucho
10-17-03, 12:20 PM
Sure he is, and Candian Bacon is his undisputed masterpiece.
movielib
10-17-03, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Groucho
Sure he is, and Candian Bacon is his undisputed masterpiece.
:eek: Michael Moore made our DVD Talk member?!
xDareDevilx
10-17-03, 10:07 PM
I refuse to watch anything by micheal moore, roman polaski (sp?), and the director of jeepers creepers (who I just found out about the whole child boy thing).
I thought seriously about boycotting films with tim robbins, surandon, martin sheen, george clooney (because of his comments making fun of charlton heston's alzheimer's), and other outspoken liberals because of their hardlined stance against our president. But then I realized that would be cinematically ignorant.
FranksAndBeans
10-17-03, 10:26 PM
Roman Polanski (duh).
Spike Lee. The guy couldn't make a good film if his life depended on it, and I can't stand the little, racist creep.
Ginwen
10-18-03, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by wendersfan
No. I could easily watch a double feature of, say, Klute and True Grit, for example.
None. For example, I'm fairly liberal, and own a bunch of John Wayne and Charlton Heston movies.
wm lopez
10-18-03, 03:56 AM
No George Cloony for me anymore.
After that 9-11 denial of the money going straight to the victems.
lesterlong
10-18-03, 04:56 PM
Its funny how I read about people boycotting liberals but not so many people boycotting conservatives. You know why? Cause conservatives don't run their mouths. Those people in Hollywood need to keep their opinions to themselves. Democrat, Republican I don't care just don't be preaching to me.
Drexl
10-18-03, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by xDareDevilx
I thought seriously about boycotting films with tim robbins, surandon, martin sheen, george clooney (because of his comments making fun of charlton heston's alzheimer's), and other outspoken liberals because of their hardlined stance against our president. But then I realized that would be cinematically ignorant.
Not to mention you'd have to include Viggo Mortensen, and that would mean no LOTR.
jasonbird
10-18-03, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by lesterlong
Its funny how I read about people boycotting liberals but not so many people boycotting conservatives. You know why? Cause conservatives don't run their mouths. Those people in Hollywood need to keep their opinions to themselves. Democrat, Republican I don't care just don't be preaching to me.
I have to agree with lesterlong on this point. While I do think
there are a few more conservatives speaking out, I think the
media are looking for them and asking the questions to bring out
their views. It does seem as though Liberals are more vocal with
some being shove-it-down-your-throat types.
Some of my favorite actors aer becoming harder to watch. After
an actor becomes 'A' list your pretty much going to see Mel Gibson
in such and such or Bruce Willis in that film or George
Clooney as so and so. But when (for example) Clooney says
some of the bone headed things he's said, it makes it harder to
want to see him as someone else. While I'll still go see a
movie that has Clooney, Robbins, and the like the repeat viewing
(aka dvd buying) doesn't happen. Robbins has seriously hampered
my ability to enjoy Shawshank Redemption, and I used to love
watching Out of Sight but now due to Clooneys comments I have
no desire to see it again. Yet having said that, I will see Oceans
12 when it comes out.
Jason
Sunday Morning
10-18-03, 07:58 PM
I don't read because books kill trees.
I don't watch movies because they are made by filthy rich people and there are starving children in the world.
SpinnerX
10-18-03, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by lesterlong
Its funny how I read about people boycotting liberals but not so many people boycotting conservatives. You know why? Cause conservatives don't run their mouths. Those people in Hollywood need to keep their opinions to themselves. Democrat, Republican I don't care just don't be preaching to me.
I think it's just because conservatives are reactionary by definition. A conservative is much more likely to boycott a movie due to an actor or filmmaker's political viewpoints than a liberal is. Liberals generally don't have the reactionary anger that causes people to react to someone else's opinions in this way.
That said, DVD Talk seems to be populated by more conservatives than liberals, so that's also probably one of the reasons why you're seeing a skew in this thread.
Ginwen
10-18-03, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by lesterlong
Its funny how I read about people boycotting liberals but not so many people boycotting conservatives. You know why? Cause conservatives don't run their mouths. Those people in Hollywood need to keep their opinions to themselves. Democrat, Republican I don't care just don't be preaching to me.
You're wrong on that assumption. Easy examples include Charlton Heston, Mel Gibson and Arnold S (at least on certain issues), but there have been many others through the years.
Sunday Morning
10-18-03, 09:23 PM
People in the spotlight should speak their mind.
That's assuming they have one.
xDareDevilx
10-19-03, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by Ginwen
You're wrong on that assumption. Easy examples include Charlton Heston, Mel Gibson and Arnold S (at least on certain issues), but there have been many others through the years.
nope, those actors will support something they believe in, but they don't slam others for their views and don't run their mouths like robbins, surandon, sheen etc. Actors do not have the intelligence about political/world views to say that one way is right or wrong. Sure, they absolutely have the freedom and right to express their opinions, but when the more liberal actors slam a president and call him names or whatever it goes beyond their personal opinions and beliefs. The conservative actors have common sense to realize that they aren't briefed on these issues to come out and try to get people behind them on it...so yeah, i was rambling and in a hurry and i'm not sure if this all made sense.
FranksAndBeans
10-19-03, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by xDareDevilx
The conservative actors have common sense to realize that they aren't briefed on these issues to come out and try to get people behind them on it...
Is anyone astonished how many hot-tempered blowhards we have here at DVDTalk on both sides of the political fence?
And I don't mix art with political agendas, though I am respecting my girlfriend's Heston boycott.
Gyno Rhino
10-19-03, 05:39 PM
I won't forbid myself from watching a movie just because the star/director/producer is a moron.
But it does make me think twice before handing over cash to support them.
Tim Robbins is the first that comes to mind. Michael Moore is a close second.
tdilia
10-19-03, 08:23 PM
Spike Lee, all he does is bitch & moan about everything, even if it is none of his business he will stick his nose in. Oh, he also makes crappy movies.
Mammal
10-19-03, 08:45 PM
I'm amazed that nobody's mentioned Jane Fonda. I can't bring myself to watch her movies, sorry.
wendersfan
10-19-03, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Mammal
I'm amazed that nobody's mentioned Jane Fonda. I can't bring myself to watch her movies, sorry.
I tacitly mentioned her, by bringing up Klute. Barbarella is good for a laugh, too. Actually many of her movies from the late 60's and early 70's are quite good. They just don't get remembered much any more.
xDareDevilx
10-20-03, 01:07 AM
yeah, my dad was in vietnam, so yo ucould imagine how I feel and especially how he feels about Fonda.
Also, Oliver Stone is not cool. I don't like his movies much and he gets waaaaay too political and seems to be a prick about it a lot.
Joel
10-20-03, 03:23 AM
None. I don't care about their ideologies :).
Josh-da-man
10-20-03, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by lesterlong
Its funny how I read about people boycotting liberals but not so many people boycotting conservatives. You know why? Cause conservatives don't run their mouths. Those people in Hollywood need to keep their opinions to themselves. Democrat, Republican I don't care just don't be preaching to me.
It's easier to boycott conservatives because THEY HAVE NO TALENT.
Charlton Hesston? It's painful to watch him chew scenery. He's like Shatner without the irony.
Ahnuld? He hasn't done anything worth watching since "Terminator." "Junior," anyone? He's pregnent for Christsakes! I don't even want to see that while I'm flipping channels. "Batman and Robin?" Suckfest.
Bruce Willis? One "Pulp Fiction" for every twenty "Hudson Hawks."
Can't think of anymore offhand.
But personally, I don't care what an actor's beliefs are. Hell, I don't even know what they're saying that pisses people off. I mean, I know eveyone hates Tim Robbins, but I don't know why... and I don't really care. Yeah, I know he said something bad. Very bad. But I don't know what it is. It's like the podium scene in "Police Academy." Same with Spike Lee. I always hear that people seem to despise him for his "beliefs," but I don't really know what, precisely, they are.
BTW, I can't watch anything with Jane Fonda in it, either. Something about just annoys me, and its not what she did during the Vietnam War, either. Can't really be bothered to give a shit about it either way.
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