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<small>NOTE: This thread is so gay.</small>

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This thread isn't quite as gay as the old one.

2nd in..thats gotta count for somthing

Are Sn0 and Quake MIA again this season in 2nd division?

Originally posted by dancinns
At least I know what it's like to play in the CC!

-rolleyes-
http://www.dtsl.net/archives/season007.php

Congrats to NOONE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Wow what a CONGRATS for winning the CC !!!

:lol:
we dont do congrats for cc
just for winning PL1

idgie is different
it took her 36 seasons to win div 2.. so we had to celebrate ;)

so can anyone train my 2 teams on friday and saturday night? going to a wedding and won't have computer access

4 ELF 2242 inSANity (DTSL) 10.1 .565 13 10 **********
6 bal 115374 Pharoh's Farm Team (DTSL) 10.3 .692 9 4 **********
7 ELF 909 Pacific Beach Brewing Co. (DTSL) 10.1 1.00 3 0 **********
13 ORE 82821 Oregon Duques (DTSL) 9.8 .633 19 11 **********
15 ELF 83934 DarkElf's Destroyers (DTSL) 10.0 .520 13 12 **********
17 PCE 106168 Pork Chop Express 9.7 .400 6 9 **********


>1/3 of the top 17 10* teams... ;)

It has been a while since I looked at this sort of thing.


Of course, mine is the only one with a losing record. :lol:

Originally posted by Y2K Falcon
4 ELF 2242 inSANity (DTSL) 10.1 .565 13 10 **********
6 bal 115374 Pharoh's Farm Team (DTSL) 10.3 .692 9 4 **********
7 ELF 909 Pacific Beach Brewing Co. (DTSL) 10.1 1.00 3 0 **********
13 ORE 82821 Oregon Duques (DTSL) 9.8 .633 19 11 **********
15 ELF 83934 DarkElf's Destroyers (DTSL) 10.0 .520 13 12 **********
17 PCE 106168 Pork Chop Express 9.7 .400 6 9 **********


>1/3 of the top 17 10* teams... ;)

It has been a while since I looked at this sort of thing.


Of course, mine is the only one with a losing record. :lol:


And the only one not identified either.
;)

ha! you guys think your cool
but are you on sol's crap team?
http://207.188.30.98/go/on.ball.team?tid=179796

I didnt think so!

Originally posted by Y2K Falcon

It has been a while since I looked at this sort of thing.


Of course, mine is the only one with a losing record. :lol:

by now, you know its better to judge by the world lists rather than the star lists
since the star lists is only updated once per day, so will normally be based on who trained closest to that time

Originally posted by twikoff
by now, you know its better to judge by the world lists rather than the star lists
No it's not...

You guys aren't in Ethiopia.

Originally posted by Pharoh
And the only one not identified either.
;)

Fixed. -ptth-

http://207.188.30.98/go/on.ball.team?tid=79157

:lol:
ok... of course there are exceptions
i still think all of dtsl should join a rarely used country.. AND DOMINATE IT!

Originally posted by twikoff
:lol:
ok... of course there are exceptions
i still think all of dtsl should join a rarely used country.. AND DOMINATE IT!
Duh...

Ethiopia!

Or Togo. ;)

i was thinking South Georgia And The South Sandwich Islands (1)

;)

Are the UL games set to be played in homerun park?

Originally posted by Borst
so can anyone train my 2 teams on friday and saturday night? going to a wedding and won't have computer access
I can do it if you don't have anyone yet. Email me with the pass, the time you want them trained, and what skills.

Originally posted by Phuzbox
Are the UL games set to be played in homerun park?

yep
all these initial ones (cept botr and cc) are in homerun park
i wanted to try a alt stadium for the ul.. and the only parks i have on 4734 are homerun, brickyard, and fod.. I decided out of those, homerun would be the most fun, as long as everyone is forced to play in it

No mention of B2K and his domination in everything but the CC?

Now that's gay.

Using gay to describe things that are odd.. thats gay. ;)

Originally posted by fleegs
I can do it if you don't have anyone yet. Email me with the pass, the time you want them trained, and what skills.

sent you an email let me know if you get it and if you reply reply to jpborst@estarwarstoys.com because my dvdsgames.com one doesnt seem to be working right now

let me know if you have a problem with the assistant password also

Originally posted by dancinns
This thread isn't quite as gay as the old one.

I don't know about that, this thread seems pretty gay to me. Trust me, I know gay when I see it!

http://www.peterheisey.com/images/gay2.bmp http://www.peterheisey.com/images/renegades.gif

UL Update:

1106 - was BOTR and CC - both are finished
1107 - full and games being played
1108 - still spots open for primary dtsl teams - pw dtsl2
1109 - sol is playing with
1110 - scrub team league.. each owner can put 1 non primary dtsl team into this league.. pw scrubs

1108 - still spots open for primary dtsl teams - pw dtsl2
Kings are in

1110 - scrub team league.. each owner can put 1 non primary dtsl team into this league.. pw scrubs
I think I remember reading this... does playing UL games affect your HR? No, like PL games, right?

I'll put my Cat Gang in the scrub league in just a few

Y2K :wave:

Maybe soon, life will return to normal and I'll be around more for you to be happy about seeing posts from me. Oh and send dancinns a damn_picture you asshat ;)

btw, my team sucks right now, so take advantage if you'd like.

Originally posted by Y2K Falcon
1108 - still spots open for primary dtsl teams - pw dtsl2
Kings are in

1110 - scrub team league.. each owner can put 1 non primary dtsl team into this league.. pw scrubs
I think I remember reading this... does playing UL games affect your HR? No, like PL games, right?

nope...
UL games do not effect honor rating, just win %

Originally posted by Copenhagen

btw, my team sucks right now, so take advantage if you'd like.

:hscratch:
havent we been doing that for 36 seasons?

Originally posted by twikoff
:lol:
we dont do congrats for cc
just for winning PL1

idgie is different
it took her 36 seasons to win div 2.. so we had to celebrate ;)

SH*T! I gotta lotta BLEePING work to do then ;)

Originally posted by Y2K Falcon
1108 - still spots open for primary dtsl teams - pw dtsl2
Kings are in

1110 - scrub team league.. each owner can put 1 non primary dtsl team into this league.. pw scrubs
I think I remember reading this... does playing UL games affect your HR? No, like PL games, right?

the CLinT Eastwoods are in the SCRUBS now

my teams on vacation now, i'll take them off either sunday (depending on when i get home) or monday

Is it just me, or does Small Ball appear to take a crap load of time sometimes? I suddenly have no desire to train or play games. Maybe it's the fact that I'm losing...

Originally posted by bishop2knight
Is it just me, or does Small Ball appear to take a crap load of time sometimes? I suddenly have no desire to train or play games. Maybe it's the fact that I'm losing...

Sounds like you need so gay loving to chear you up!

http://www.peterheisey.com/images/renegades.gif


Seriously, I know what you mean. I think I have my team to a point where nobody can beat them and I go on a major losing streak instead.

NOTE: This thread is so gay.

In an effort to continue thread GAIETY....

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/QESGUY.jpg

Originally posted by Lateralus
Sounds like you need so gay loving to chear you up!

http://www.peterheisey.com/images/renegades.gif

Wow, things are looking up already. :)

I'm getting ripped in the 4th division. I see things change once you reach a certain level. For example, teams are no longer waiting until the final weekend to initiate.

Originally posted by Realmwalker
In an effort to continue thread GAIETY....

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/QESGUY.jpg

rotfl If I ever join the smallball.com forums, this is going to be in my sig.

Right click ---- Save

B2K,

Im still here so you dont have to train my girls. Mr. My sleep is more important didnt get up.

Originally posted by Lateralus
rotfl If I ever join the smallball.com forums, this is going to be in my sig.

Right click ---- Save

Got that just for you LAT! ;)

Originally posted by IdgIe49
B2K,

Im still here so you dont have to train my girls. Mr. My sleep is more important didnt get up. Who is Mr. My Sleep and why is he more important than me?

my husband

This week on <i>Queer Guy for a Right Thigh</i>, Lat tries to rope Realm into his gay ways, but finds himself tied up instead.

Originally posted by IdgIe49
my husband rotfl

"my husband" is always getting in the way of my fun. Maybe I need to meet a girl who doesn't know the guy.

Question regarding training techniques....

I have been tinkering with some training combos. Do any other trainers out there use specific combos to try and help get the MOST out of your TP?

For example....

I find myself training pitchers in the following order in skills:

Run - Throw - Pitch (all on Full pies) and if they Max before SAID TP is expired they go to their weakest BAT SKILL.

Just curious if others use training combos?

P.S. Hey Lat....maybe a new team could be the Christopher Lowell show.......
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/CLOWELL1.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/CLOWELL2.jpg :lol:

I've been noticing lately, in all divisions, that many teams on vacation are getting improved won/loss records due to forfeits. Is there any way we could limit the number of wins attributed to such forfeits? A team who wins a division or gets into the playoffs thanks to 4-5 forfeits....well, that smells bad.

Maybe the new smallball spokesperson.. ;)

Smallball...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/CLOWELL2.jpg

Its fabulous!

rotfl

the guy that just won the Face of Fusion contest was not the cutest :p

Originally posted by bishop2knight
I've been noticing lately, in all divisions, that many teams on vacation are getting improved won/loss records due to forfeits. Is there any way we could limit the number of wins attributed to such forfeits? A team who wins a division or gets into the playoffs thanks to 4-5 forfeits....well, that smells bad.

if it helps any
i heard a rumor that htq would be coming back off vacation soon

-ohbfrank- @ this thread. It is sooo gay.

hmm fetishes with fellatio and gayness... hmmmmmmm

Originally posted by twikoff
if it helps any
i heard a rumor that htq would be coming back off vacation soon Actually, maybe I'm the only one who sees a problem with this. I think it's more along the lines of me not wanting my own team to get wins that way. So whatever. I'm heading back to the first division and the 5th PL anyway.

***runs and locks himself IN the closet***

First one to come out is GAY! :lol:

Originally posted by bishop2knight
Actually, maybe I'm the only one who sees a problem with this. I think it's more along the lines of me not wanting my own team to get wins that way. So whatever. I'm heading back to the first division and the 5th PL anyway.


:up:

It feels good to go home, doesn't it?







;)

Originally posted by Realmwalker
***runs and locks himself IN the closet***

First one to come out is GAY! :lol:


Hey, that is for next week.
:)

Originally posted by Realmwalker
***runs and locks himself IN the closet***

First one to come out is GAY! :lol:

ummm
hmmmm
so your going to lock a bunch of dudes IN a closet.. and the first one to come out, is GAY

:hscratch:

I'd say the first to come out is just tired.

Originally posted by IdgIe49
hmm fetishes with fellatio and gayness... hmmmmmmm


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/CLOWELL2.jpg

Don't forget about creampies!

Originally posted by bishop2knight
I'd say the first to come out is just tired.

rotfl eww

-ohbfrank- At this thread.


Even the Renegades are taken back at the turn of events.

Originally posted by Lateralus
-ohbfrank- At this thread.


Even the Renegades are taken back at the turn of events.

Fear NOT!!
Ace and GARY will save you!!
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/acegary2.jpg

Has this thread ever made it without mentioning smallball? Now that would be super gay! :up:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/CLOWELL1.jpg

Did someone say super gay?

Originally posted by twikoff
if it helps any
i heard a rumor that htq would be coming back off vacation soon

I noticed when I played them last night that they went on (v) on 8/15.

Two months is a long time for a team to remain on vacation.

Lat: Keep playing my team. Eventually I'll score less than 16 runs on you. :)

Originally posted by dancinns
Lat: Keep playing my team. Eventually I'll score less than 16 runs on you. :)

Now THAT would be soooooo GAY....just like all the TELETUBBIES and their SUPER GAY FELLATIO Machine!

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/TeleTubbies.jpg

Aww.. look what you did Realm..

I think the envoking of the Teletubbies put this thread over the weekly gay quota.. From this point until next friday, there can be no more gay refrences.

Sorry Lat, you'll just have to lurk for a week with your team.. ;)

-ohbfrank- I guess there's going to be no smallball discussion today.

Anyway, here's some league news...

There will be no forfeits from Sunday morning to Tuesday morning. So that means you'll have until Tuesday to play games from Saturday, Sunday and Monday....I think that's right. Anyway, there's no forfeits this weekend. Enjoy the holiday, but not Doc Holliday.

Originally posted by dancinns
-ohbfrank- I guess there's going to be no smallball discussion today.

Anyway, here's some league news...

There will be no forfeits from Sunday morning to Tuesday morning. So that means you'll have until Tuesday to play games from Saturday, Sunday and Monday....I think that's right. Anyway, there's no forfeits this weekend. Enjoy the holiday, but not Doc Holliday.


Can we make it retroactive to the start of the season?
;)



BTW, when you going to play your League games? I want to hurry up and get some training in before our game.
;)

Originally posted by dancinns
-ohbfrank- I guess there's going to be no smallball discussion today.

Anyway, here's some league news...

There will be no forfeits from Sunday morning to Tuesday morning. So that means you'll have until Tuesday to play games from Saturday, Sunday and Monday....I think that's right. Anyway, there's no forfeits this weekend. Enjoy the holiday, but not Doc Holliday.

Are we celebrating Columbus Day?

Originally posted by Pharoh
Can we make it retroactive to the start of the season?
;)



BTW, when you going to play your League games? I want to hurry up and get some training in before our game.
;) For you? Nope. For everyone else, yup! ;)

I'll play my league games at the usual time, between 9PM-11PM Pacific. I'll be too busy finishing up season 1 of Alias this evening to even bother with smallball.

Originally posted by mgfred
Are we celebrating Columbus Day? Why not?

Originally posted by mgfred
I noticed when I played them last night that they went on (v) on 8/15.

Two months is a long time for a team to remain on vacation.

yep.. when she put them on vacation.. she said indefinitly and offered to have them removed from the league
which would have just meant we needed one more [s] team, since we havent had a full league in quite some time

Originally posted by dancinns
-ohbfrank- I guess there's going to be no smallball discussion today.

Anyway, here's some league news...
Enjoy the holiday, but not Doc Holliday.

:wave: :johnwoo:
Im yer huckleberry

BTW- When do we need our 1107 DTSL1 league games finished by?

Originally posted by dancinns
Lat: Keep playing my team. Eventually I'll score less than 16 runs on you. :)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/CLOWELL2.jpg

Bitch! :(

Originally posted by Lateralus
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/CLOWELL2.jpg

Bitch! :( :lol:

That picture is almost as good as the Fred one.

OK I am back up and running my guys are very unhappy, what next who do I play

Sn0: Go to www.dtsl.net and log in. You'll be taken to your team page and you can see your team schedule. Play the games for today with [submit score] to the left of the matchup.

Originally posted by Realmwalker
:wave: :johnwoo:
Im yer huckleberry

BTW- When do we need our 1107 DTSL1 league games finished by?

ummmmm
i dont care

lets say
end of the season..
ill forfeit out all games when i wake up on smallball monday

1108 and 1110 may last longer, since they havent even started yet

There are somethings in this game that make no sense at all!

http://smallball3.prognet.com/go/on.ball.team?tid=89850

If you have a few seconds to waste, check my team page and guess which hitter has not received any type of batting training since May or June?

It just does not make sense.......

My #1 HR hitter btw is rated #12 in overall batting in DT as well! He does though get hit training!

Originally posted by mgfred
There are somethings in this game that make no sense at all!

http://smallball3.prognet.com/go/on.ball.team?tid=89850

If you have a few seconds to waste, check my team page and guess which hitter has not received any type of batting training since May or June?

It just does not make sense.......

My #1 HR hitter btw is rated #12 in overall batting in DT as well! He does though get hit training!

SInce you bring it up, the fact that there is only one SUB-par hitter on your whole team(Whitley Strieber RF -- .276), He is NOT the person who hasn't trained in hitting.

I am gonna take a stab and say your Pitcher hasn't hit since June and is still hitting 560?

Whats the answer? And the fact that MAx is banging out the HR's and is still sorted last in OVERALL, leads me to believe his Swing skill is low placing him last in overall batting.....I think Swing Skill is weighted HEAVIER in the OVerall batting Sort.

PLease enlighten me if my hypothesis' are wrong...

who understands this game
i always strongly felt that my team played best without bat training.. I would go entire seasons without letting them pick up a bat.. and they would all put up huge batting numbers..
this strategy got me into PL1 and had a good chance to win it..
but it just didnt seem right.
and listening to elf's philosophy on training.. and constantly giving them power.. I went back to doing alot more bat training, and my guys arent as good as they use to be

of course.. a couple things have to be factored in
1.. I havent been around near as much lately.. so my teams have suffered a bit

2.. part of the problem is that by avoiding bat training, even though my team was playing well at the time.. eventually, they had slipped too far in the batting areas

3.. commish is always screwing with the switches, so who knows


and overall.. I really dont think all teams handle diff training regimes the same.. so you really can listen to all advice, but dont expect something that works for one person, to work for everyone

Originally posted by Realmwalker
SInce you bring it up, the fact that there is only one SUB-par hitter on your whole team(Whitley Strieber RF -- .276), He is NOT the person who hasn't trained in hitting.

I am gonna take a stab and say your Pitcher hasn't hit since June and is still hitting 560?

Whats the answer? And the fact that MAx is banging out the HR's and is still sorted last in OVERALL, leads me to believe his Swing skill is low placing him last in overall batting.....I think Swing Skill is weighted HEAVIER in the OVerall batting Sort.

PLease enlighten me if my hypothesis' are wrong...

It is the pitcher who is #10 in power, skill and contact, and absolutely no hitting for months.

Max is actually #1 in skill and about #9 in power. However his contact is around 20%. How he is batting over .500 is ridiculous! My next lowest contact guy is around 70%.

Originally posted by twikoff
3.. commish is always screwing with the switches, so who knows


What they did last season and carried on to this season may finally make me give it up! The challenge is gone!

Once it took skill and knowledge to create a 10* team. Now it can easily be done with blanket training.

Anybody that hits 10*s now seriously has not accomplished much at all except longevity! There's no way to tell anymore! I'm at 10*s all day long on all 3 teams. The 10* list is over 100 every day! It's like affirmative action for the less skilled managers!

Originally posted by mgfred
What they did last season and carried on to this season may finally make me give it up! The challenge is gone!
Anybody that hits 10*s now seriously has not accomplished much at all except longevity! There's no way to tell anymore! I'm at 10*s all day long on all 3 teams. The 10* list is over 100 every day! It's like affirmative action for the less skilled managers!

Interesting take and one that is shared by MANY Veteran managers. However, I will tell you this. Many WELL-TRAINED 9* teams can beat MANY MANY of those "so-called" 10* teams because they are 10* in OVERALL SKILL but NOT 10* in QUALITY.

As far as changing the switches, the one POSITIVE from that is that you cant MASTER the game overall, as it does continue to change.

I do agree with Twik in that not all teams training styles work universally. I mean how many times do you think you have your team set to go on a tear and then lose 3 games you should win, then hours later go on a 10 game winning streak.

The above was ONE reason I asked earlier, PRE-GAY THREAD, about Training Combinations that resulted in positive Game results.

There was a point yesterday where the USA Top 200 had over 150 10* teams.

Well, shoot, I just looked, and it has 145.

i dont care what anyone says about 11* being impossible
we are going to eventually see it

because I remember when everyone said 10* was impossible

Originally posted by twikoff
and listening to elf's philosophy on training.. and constantly giving them power..

I say that only to _develop_ the power, but not after. However, once a team is there, you only need to maintain it, and that doesn't require daily power training.

:hscratch:

I could have swore I remember you saying that your guys get *some* power in every single training session

Originally posted by twikoff
:hscratch:

I could have swore I remember you saying that your guys get *some* power in every single training session

I recall Elf saying that they get some batting daily (mostly swing skill) and power ONLY when they drop below 400'.
Hmmm....

Originally posted by twikoff
i dont care what anyone says about 11* being impossible
we are going to eventually see it

because I remember when everyone said 10* was impossible
If the theory is correct that 11* means maxed out in everything, then I don't see how that is possible, unless of course, they monkey with the switches again.

I will say this. I've never been able to max a guy out in bat skill. I don't remember actually trying to, but I gave The Contractors and all 3 of my teams 3/4 to a full pie in just batting in the diamond. Each team had at least a few guys max out in skill, with the rest being only 1-2 points short of maxing out. And it isn't like I fed them batting skill day after day. This is just normal training.

But it would probably take full pie training in every other skill to get the players at or near max.

So unless I had 4-5 full pies on a given day, I don't see how I could possibly max them out in everything.

Originally posted by twikoff
:hscratch:

I could have swore I remember you saying that your guys get *some* power in every single training session

They get some _hitting_ every time I train them, but it isn't always power. I almost always put _someone_ in the red cage each training session (usually the guys who are ranked lower, to catch them up), but maybe only 1-2 times a week do I put the entire team in the red cage, and even then, it's rare that I leave them there to use all their pie.

Originally posted by DarkElf
If the theory is correct that 11* means maxed out in everything, then I don't see how that is possible, unless of course, they monkey with the switches again.


the theory use to be that 10* means maxed out in everything

next year, the theory will be that 12* means maxed out in everything

Originally posted by DarkElf
If the theory is correct that 11* means maxed out in everything, then I don't see how that is possible, unless of course, they monkey with the switches again.

11* MIGHT be possible.Most people only train pitching in 2 or 3 guys.

First assumption is that each skill MAX is 100. This means that each player at max in ALL skills is a 700.

2nd assumption is that STAR ratings only account for the 9 players ON the field.

Assuming that ALL 9 players had a 700 your total skill on the team would be 1600.....would that then be MAX? 16 stars?!?!
--------------

Originally posted by DarkElf
I will say this. I've never been able to max a guy out in bat skill. I don't remember actually trying to, but I gave The Contractors and all 3 of my teams 3/4 to a full pie in just batting in the diamond.

I have maxxed a couple players in ALL 3 skills on two teams, however I only did BAT training for like 3 weeks straight on 48 hour pies, Just to see what happens.

Fred, you've always had some crazy wackos on your teams though. :)

One thing I don't say is that how they rank in DT dictates how they do in live games.

The main reason why I keep everyone's skills about the same is so I can tell if someone starts to fall behind.

I also still believe in the plateau thing. Once you get someone "over the hump", they seem to remain there. I'm still watching Link -- he always lost his throw skill quickly, but after busting him in the throwing pen to get him up with his teammates, he's held his throw skill just as well as his buddies. He's reached that plateau and staying there.

:hscratch:
i could have swore that commish said there is no max point in the batting skills

just that eventually your gain would be so small that its not worth it to continue training that area

Originally posted by twikoff
:hscratch:
i could have swore that commish said there is no max point in the batting skills

just that eventually your gain would be so small that its not worth it to continue training that area

That IS possible because I just kept getting .01's on my scrub team in CONTACT and Power at the same time...they were
+10.08 CON
+ 3 SWING
+ 5.08 POWER

This was from the Yellow Cage I believe.

Originally posted by twikoff
the theory use to be that 10* means maxed out in everything

next year, the theory will be that 12* means maxed out in everything
That was before someone came up with the realization that you start a brand new team (with no skill) at 1*. So instead, a 0-10 scale is translated into a 1-11 scale.

I do believe that 11* is max in everything. If that is correct, then we won't see 11* teams unless the TP ticket makes its way back into SmallBall.

or maybe we will never figure out the game
and max will be whatever commish decides it is

i dont know.. it just seems that with this many 10* teams.. I would love to see on a decimal system what the difference between a high 10* team is compared to a low 10* team

Originally posted by twikoff
:hscratch:
i could have swore that commish said there is no max point in the batting skills

just that eventually your gain would be so small that its not worth it to continue training that area
Well, I don't know what he said, and I seriously doubt I would trust that he wasn't pulling our legs, but there is definitely a point where you hit a wall and stop gaining.

Unless you minimize DT with FPS cranked -- then you can exceed max. But obviously that doesn't work in power or skill.

Now keep in mind, if you're 1 point away from max in, say, batting skill, it's quite possible for your guy to get a +2 in bat skill on a normal cycle. In that case, he's 1 point beyond max, but then he won't gain any more skill.

Originally posted by twikoff
or maybe we will never figure out the game
and max will be whatever commish decides it is

i dont know.. it just seems that with this many 10* teams.. I would love to see on a decimal system what the difference between a high 10* team is compared to a low 10* team
That would definitely be a help.

Currently a 9.5 = 10*

Originally posted by twikoff
or maybe we will never figure out the game
and max will be whatever commish decides it is

i dont know.. it just seems that with this many 10* teams.. I would love to see on a decimal system what the difference between a high 10* team is compared to a low 10* team
I'm thinking it is not that much. Like maybe 10.3 to 10.0.

That's why the games are much more about just who gets lucky now. Teams are so close in talent nowadays.

Let’s continue to use the contractors as an example, since the T-Storms used to split the games with them before you took over.

You said that when you took over training them, you feed them a lot of power. Was that power on a full pie or did you train in power and a little in something else (like your doing with skill)? And are you training on 24/36/48 hr pie? With my team, I feed them power every other day and I have seen a increase in hrs, but I still have a tough time getting people to the 400’ level that is always stated.

How do you keep the defensive side up? Is the little bit of defensive training you give them each day, enough to keep them strong? Because I train my guys twice a week in skills other in batting (24hr pies) and it doesn't seem like they can keep it up (avg +3-9 each training). That is why I find it hard to believe that you could stick with just a small amount of non-hitting skill each day.

Originally posted by Realmwalker
That would definitely be a help.

Currently a 9.5 = 10*
You're translating the skill points to a * level.

I thought Twik wanted the * level to be calculated out to 1 decimal.

Like, 10* teams would be 10.3*, 10.2*, 10.1* and 10.0*...

Originally posted by DarkElf
You're translating the skill points to a * level.

I thought Twik wanted the * level to be calculated out to 1 decimal.

Like, 10* teams would be 10.3*, 10.2*, 10.1* and 10.0*...

i think he is assuming that you round up
so if it was actually 9.5, then its a 10* team

I believe this is probably true.. not sure where the next star level point starts though..

the reason I think its true.. is because it was so tough to boost honor rating when playing teams that were low at a certain star level..
almost like if you were beating up on a 9.7 team that shows up at 10*.. then maybe you could only get as high as 10.2
otherwise, we would see alot of 10.5, 10.6, and 10.7 honor ratings by now

and this is my point on 11*
I dont think you have to be maxed, if 10.5 is the round point up to 11*

Originally posted by Realmwalker
11* MIGHT be possible.Most people only train pitching in 2 or 3 guys.

First assumption is that each skill MAX is 100. This means that each player at max in ALL skills is a 700.

2nd assumption is that STAR ratings only account for the 9 players ON the field.

Assuming that ALL 9 players had a 700 your total skill on the team would be 1600.....would that then be MAX? 16 stars?!?!
I think the way it is done is an average of each player's skill level in each skill. Only the 9 on the field count. Pitch skill is only considered for the guy in the P position.

So that would be 6 skill categories for 9 players, plus the 1 pitcher's pitch skill, or 55 total skills. Assuming the range is 0-100, add up the points for all 55 skills, divide by 55, you get a number between 0-10. Add 1 and truncate the decimal to get the * value.

Originally posted by DarkElf
You're translating the skill points to a * level.

I thought Twik wanted the * level to be calculated out to 1 decimal.

Like, 10* teams would be 10.3*, 10.2*, 10.1* and 10.0*...

I understand that, BUT the skill level is actually a decimal and therefore when it is calculated it is rounded UP. Saying that, 9.5 (the cumulative of a teams skills) currently equates out to10*.

I believe this can be proved out by playing a low 10* skill and only gaining say a 9.7 Honor.......

IF you go to decimals then MANY 10* teams would DROP from the 10* list as 9.5 - 9.9 would not then be ROUNDED to 10*

However the attaining of 10*'s is EASIER!

Originally posted by twikoff
i think he is assuming that you round up
so if it was actually 9.5, then its a 10* team

I believe this is probably true.. not sure where the next star level point starts though..

the reason I think its true.. is because it was so tough to boost honor rating when playing teams that were low at a certain star level..
almost like if you were beating up on a 9.7 team that shows up at 10*.. then maybe you could only get as high as 10.2
otherwise, we would see alot of 10.5, 10.6, and 10.7 honor ratings by now

and this is my point on 11*
I dont think you have to be maxed, if 10.5 is the round point up to 11*

Hmm, that makes sense too.

Okay, maybe you're right. If the * value is based on round up/down, then we just might see an 11* team.

Originally posted by DarkElf
I think the way it is done is an average of each player's skill level in each skill. Only the 9 on the field count. Pitch skill is only considered for the guy in the P position.

So that would be 6 skill categories for 9 players, plus the 1 pitcher's pitch skill, or 55 total skills. Assuming the range is 0-100, add up the points for all 55 skills, divide by 55, you get a number between 0-10. Add 1 and truncate the decimal to get the * value.

Makes more sense YOUR way :)

So only the PITCHER gets considered in Pitch skill? Hmmm

The truncation + rounding is where the 9.5 becomes the 10* then .... makes sense!

Originally posted by Realmwalker

So only the PITCHER gets considered in Pitch skill? Hmmm


yep
commish has specifically said this a few times as well

we use to feel that giving some fielders some pitch training would allow them to get the ball thrown in faster and straighter.. but also hurt star rating, since if they arent the pitcher, its basically wasting pie on a skill that doesnt go into the equation

Originally posted by twikoff

and this is my point on 11*
I dont think you have to be maxed, if 10.5 is the round point up to 11*
Right....that was my thought on 11 as well ...it is really ONLY 10.5 skill.

Originally posted by fleegs
Let’s continue to use the contractors as an example, since the T-Storms used to split the games with them before you took over.

You said that when you took over training them, you feed them a lot of power. Was that power on a full pie or did you train in power and a little in something else (like your doing with skill)? And are you training on 24/36/48 hr pie? With my team, I feed them power every other day and I have seen a increase in hrs, but I still have a tough time getting people to the 400’ level that is always stated.

How do you keep the defensive side up? Is the little bit of defensive training you give them each day, enough to keep them strong? Because I train my guys twice a week in skills other in batting (24hr pies) and it doesn't seem like they can keep it up (avg +3-9 each training). That is why I find it hard to believe that you could stick with just a small amount of non-hitting skill each day.

I've been training the Contractors strictly on full pies. That means I train them every night about the same time. I train the guys on the bench every day, the regulars every other day. No one has ever trained on less than a full pie, and no one has ever sat on a full pie. I've been religious with this.

When I first got the Contractors, I trained red cage exclusively until everyone was caught up and hitting over 400 feet. Guys who needed to catch up were on the bench the entire time until they did.

Then I moved on to skill. Same idea. Bench the guys who needed to catch up. Full pies, hitting in the field, until everyone was caught up. Well, I'm almost there. 2 guys haven't quite caught up yet.

Everyone already hit over 80% in contact, and that's risen to about 84% during all this training (despite never putting them in the contact cage).

I haven't given them one lick of catch or throw training. But I'm certain that once the hitting is squared away, it won't take much to get the defense back up to where it was. Guys are still throwing in the 150s and beyond. I don't see guys dropping balls during games.

And I've given the team a little run training just before I go off on playing the PL schedule, so that means they've gotten run twice so far, and each time, about 1/3 of a pie.

Switching gears to my teams, it's true. I only give them about 1/3 to 1/2 pie every 5-6 days in a skill such as catch or throw. I give them that much in run, but usually every 3-4 days. That really has been enough to maintain the non-hitting skills.

Originally posted by Realmwalker
Makes more sense YOUR way :)

So only the PITCHER gets considered in Pitch skill? Hmmm

The truncation + rounding is where the 9.5 becomes the 10* then .... makes sense!
The real question is whether the decimal is truncated OR rounded. It can't be both. :)

Now that Twik mentions the effect on honor rating of a team just barely into a * rating, I tend to think you guys are right -- that it is rounded. Do we assume 9.5 is rounded up and 9.4 is rounded down? :shrug:

Thanks for the help darkelf.

I guess I'll do the same thing with my team and stick to power some more.

Is the 400' an average or can they only hit that far a couple times?

What are your views a maintaining pitchers. I have found my 2 pitchers, but l sometimes have a tough time keeping them up in pitching and the other skills?

*Today's DTSL scores*

Reichsmarschalls 4
Hotels 11
#25867

Reichsmarschalls 13
Bada Bing 18
#26142

Originally posted by DarkElf
The real question is whether the decimal is truncated OR rounded. It can't be both. :)

Now that Twik mentions the effect on honor rating of a team just barely into a * rating, I tend to think you guys are right -- that it is rounded. Do we assume 9.5 is rounded up and 9.4 is rounded down? :shrug:

we think you should get a job with andnow, just so we can confirm some theories

Originally posted by DarkElf
I haven't given them one lick of catch or throw training. But I'm certain that once the hitting is squared away, it won't take much to get the defense back up to where it was. Guys are still throwing in the 150s and beyond. I don't see guys dropping balls during games.
I should add that, except for the 2 guys needing hitting skill, I don't need to focus totally on hitting anymore, so they'll be seeing a more balanced training from here on out.

Originally posted by DarkElf
The real question is whether the decimal is truncated OR rounded. It can't be both. :)

Now that Twik mentions the effect on honor rating of a team just barely into a * rating, I tend to think you guys are right -- that it is rounded. Do we assume 9.5 is rounded up and 9.4 is rounded down? :shrug:

I believe it is ROUNDED and that would logically(SB isnt always logical though) make me think 9.5 is UP and 9.4 is DOWN.

The logical experiment would be to pick a LOW 10* team and play them enough times to win 11 games before they drop there 10* rating. Then you could see what your honor adjusts to giving an idea to what HONOR you received giving insight to the actual DROP off point for "rounding"

Honor is reset EVERY season to the PAST 10 games you have played I believe.

Originally posted by fleegs
Thanks for the help darkelf.

I guess I'll do the same thing with my team and stick to power some more.

Is the 400' an average or can they only hit that far a couple times?

What are your views a maintaining pitchers. I have found my 2 pitchers, but l sometimes have a tough time keeping them up in pitching and the other skills?
Everyone on the Contractors hits the ball 380+ every time, and usually over 400. They could use a few sessions of power, but Kevin wants the team back soon, so I have to get the team balanced out.

Pitching is tough, and it varies a great deal from team to team. The Destroyers are fortunate to have two guys that have no trouble maintaing their other skills in addition to pitching.

My other two teams though... I have 4-5 guys I swap around at pitching. They all hold pitch skill very well, so when I go to train the team, whoever has the highest overall bat skill is the guy I pitch train that session. The rest get whatever training the rest of the team gets. And I always try to put one of them on the bench so that he's ready for pitch training in 24 hours if needed.

Originally posted by Realmwalker

Honor is reset EVERY season to the PAST 10 games you have played I believe.

this isnt true
its just worded very poorly in the smallball explaination

the way i see it..

at the end of each season.. your honor stays exactly what it was at the end of the last season (we can all agree on this)
and that you start each season with 10 games counted against you to make it a little tougher to improve HR.. so you cant take those huge jumps right at the start of each new season

so technically.. if you end a season with a 10.0 honor rating..
thats 9.5 + .5
then thats like having 10 games under your belt for a total of 950 honor points.. even if your last 10 games/wins were all against 10 star teams

Oh, is that what they meant by that, Twik? I just assumed they didn't ever bother to reset it.

:up:

Nice thread, seriously.

Question though on Elf's plateau theory. Do you think this applies equally to all players in all skills? I ask because I have a very specific case where this does not. It has been a bane to my team for a long time now.

thats my assumption
because there are obviously SOME games counting against us at the start of each season.. otherwise if your honor was 6 and your first game of a new season was a win against a 10* team, you would jump to an 8 honor (well, not counting the .5, but you know what i mean)

but you obviously can improve honor quicker at the start of each season, thatn you can at the end.. so there is some number that counts against you, and its not all that big.. so 10 seems to make sense

Originally posted by DarkElf
Oh, is that what they meant by that, Twik? I just assumed they didn't ever bother to reset it.

AS you told me a while back....SB is buggy as HELL and thats what makes it a GOOD game, not a GREAT ONE!

Originally posted by twikoff
thats my assumption
because there are obviously SOME games counting against us at the start of each season.. otherwise if your honor was 6 and your first game of a new season was a win against a 10* team, you would jump to an 8 honor (well, not counting the .5, but you know what i mean)

but you obviously can improve honor quicker at the start of each season, thatn you can at the end.. so there is some number that counts against you, and its not all that big.. so 10 seems to make sense


What then would be the assumption for the highest Honor Rating a team could get, 10.5? What is the highest any team has attained?

Originally posted by Pharoh
:up:

Nice thread, seriously.

Question though on Elf's plateau theory. Do you think this applies equally to all players in all skills? I ask because I have a very specific case where this does not. It has been a bane to my team for a long time now.
The only thing that I can guarantee is that nothing is true universally. :)

However, I've finally succeeded in getting every one of my 36 players caught up in any weak skills, and so far, they've held onto the skill level, rather than start slipping like they used to.

Originally posted by Pharoh
What then would be the assumption for the highest Honor Rating a team could get, 10.5? What is the highest any team has attained?

not sure what the highest anyone has reached

and i cant even guess what the higher HR a team can get
star rating is obviously based on decimals.. and if anyone gets above 10.0, then beating up on them should at some point technically get you above 10.5 honor rating
but I think it will be a long time before we see a team get that high.. because they would have to play a ton of games.. and only against a select few teams

Originally posted by Pharoh
:up:

Nice thread, seriously.

Question though on Elf's plateau theory. Do you think this applies equally to all players in all skills? I ask because I have a very specific case where this does not. It has been a bane to my team for a long time now.

Many people speak on the plateau theory and it seems to be true, but different for each and every player....meaning all players have plateaus that occur at different skill levels in differing skills.

That is (as you probably know) when you need to PUSH them(ie bench them) to get them past the skill hump to get them to the NEXT plateau.

I think that in reality ALL players and consequently ALL SKills trained by all those players would differ.....I would be interested to hear your specific case....

i dont think there is any doubt that all players plateau at a different point

this should have been evident back when you originally maxed your team out at each skill

Originally posted by twikoff
not sure what the highest anyone has reached

and i cant even guess what the higher HR a team can get
star rating is obviously based on decimals.. and if anyone gets above 10.0, then beating up on them should at some point technically get you above 10.5 honor rating
but I think it will be a long time before we see a team get that high.. because they would have to play a ton of games.. and only against a select few teams

Pharoh's Farm Team currently has a 10.3 Honor....who is he playing? :)

....pretty much 75% DTSL and PL3 and UP teams...

Originally posted by Realmwalker
Many people speak on the plateau theory and it seems to be true, but different for each and every player....meaning all players have plateaus that occur at different skill levels in differing skills.

That is (as you probably know) when you need to PUSH them(ie bench them) to get them past the skill hump to get them to the NEXT plateau.

I think that in reality ALL players and consequently ALL SKills trained by all those players would differ.....I would be interested to hear your specific case....


One of the pitchers on the Ballers, Reagan, has a problem with retaining Throwing Skill. (I know that is not good, but I never bothered training the whole team correctly in order to find the best pitcher). He generally will sort in the bottom third in Throw. I have gotten him to throw over 185', and yet within the course of a season he will be back to only throwing in the 150's, with an occassional throw in the 160s. And back down at the bottom on the sort list. I have given up trying to plateau him at this point.

Originally posted by Realmwalker
Pharoh's Farm Team currently has a 10.3 Honor....who is he playing? :)

....pretty much 75% DTSL and PL3 and UP teams...


The same 5 or 6 teams over and over. ;) Of course they are unencumbered by league play.

But the funny thing is, they were at 10.1 at the start of last season. So in the course of less than 1.5 seasons, they went from 10.1 to 10.3, and did so without playing a ton of games.
:hscratch:


I think plenty of things have been going on over the last few weeks in SmallBall.

Originally posted by Pharoh
One of the pitchers on the Ballers, Reagan, has a problem with retaining Throwing Skill. (I know that is not good, but I never bothered training the whole team correctly in order to find the best pitcher). He generally will sort in the bottom third in Throw. I have gotten him to throw over 185', and yet within the course of a season he will be back to only throwing in the 150's, with an occassional throw in the 160s. And back down at the bottom on the sort list. I have given up trying to plateau him at this point.

I would try to THROW him on 48 hour pies for as long as it takes to MAX him. Then let him do other skills for a few days then THROW him again and THROW him some more.....if he continues not to HOLD that skill you may want to only pitch him after training THROW then PITCH before he takes the mound OR consider another pitcher.....just a thought.....

Originally posted by Pharoh
The same 5 or 6 teams over and over. ;) Of course they are unencumbered by league play.

But the funny thing is, they were at 10.1 at the start of last season. So in the course of less than 1.5 seasons, they went from 10.1 to 10.3, and did so without playing a ton of games.
:hscratch:


I think plenty of things have been going on over the last few weeks in SmallBall.

That makes sense though...because LESS teams would allow greater fluctuation of your HR AND it is possible that these same 5 or 6 teams have gone up in skill as well allowing you to GAIN HR based on their increased skill levels.

Originally posted by Realmwalker
I would try to THROW him on 48 hour pies for as long as it takes to MAX him. Then let him do other skills for a few days then THROW him again and THROW him some more.....if he continues not to HOLD that skill you may want to only pitch him after training THROW then PITCH before he takes the mound OR consider another pitcher.....just a thought.....


I've thought about doing this, but two things have prevented me:
-He retains all other Skills wonderfully well.
-My team actually performs the best when he is on the mound.

It was with him on the mound that I was able to win the necessary games to move up to 1st League, and also to win 7 out of my first 10 once there.


But I still don't know what happened to my team at the end of last season, start of this one. I mentioned it before, but I am positive that for a time Skill Retention was changed back. But I don't really know anything anymore.
:confused:

Ok. After looking at Borst's teams, now I know my team sucks at power.

Whoa, I just saw that Commish changed PL1 so that only the top 5 stay in PL1. Great, I'm 3 weeks away from tying Retry's record, and he makes that change now? Couldn't he have waited a month?

Originally posted by DarkElf
Whoa, I just saw that Commish changed PL1 so that only the top 5 stay in PL1. Great, I'm 3 weeks away from tying Retry's record, and he makes that change now? Couldn't he have waited a month?

What?!?!
And apparently ID# advantage would take DEEP changes in the code?
Why? Did you see my reply after yours in the ID thread @ SB?

Oh and I have a question for you that I posted earlier and I think it got lost in the "GAY ZONE" that erupted...

SKill Combination Training. (ie training specific skills in specific orders?) Have you messed with anything like that?

Also the kid is STILL offering me TEAM# 936 for 222222 and I am thinking about taking it, but I feel I may regret it. (decisions, decisions)

I responded.

Now that only 5 teams stay in PL1, that has placed an even greater importance on having a low ID team. It doesn't really affect a team number like yours (you're always gonna be screwed), but for the teams like many of the DTSL folks (8xxxx), it really could come into play even more.

As for messing with skill combination training, not really.

Originally posted by DarkElf
I responded.

Now that only 5 teams stay in PL1, that has placed an even greater importance on having a low ID team. It doesn't really affect a team number like yours (you're always gonna be screwed), but for the teams like many of the DTSL folks (8xxxx), it really could come into play even more.

As for messing with skill combination training, not really.

I saw your response....NICE!
BTW - I can still get team 936....but 222222 is a good team and havent even reached 10*...... you said before that you thought getting the LOW ID is key if I have PL1 aspirations......however Twik says I'd probably be sorry.

I am vascillating.....sh*t!

I know I need to work on Contact and Skill, (am in the process already), but I didn't know it was this bad.

The Ballers have scored 398 runs in 36 games on 277 homeruns. That is not good. I know that my homerun numbers are skewed somewhat since twikoff's user league is set in Homerun Park, but even if I take those games out of consideration, I've played 6 there, the problem would still persist.

I have tried swithching the lineup around and spreading the best hitters out, but I still get plenty of solo shots. Any ideas? Is it simply more Skill that I need? I try to keep Run at a fairly high level, but could more Run Skill be needed? Any other ideas?

Originally posted by Realmwalker
I saw your response....NICE!
BTW - I can still get team 936....but 222222 is a good team and havent even reached 10*...... you said before that you thought getting the LOW ID is key if I have PL1 aspirations......however Twik says I'd probably be sorry.

I am vascillating.....sh*t!

Im pretty sure it wasnt me that said you would be sorry
Ive trained away a bunch of teams.. I still miss some of them, but Im not sorry about any
although it does suck to see a couple of them completely abandoned.. but i enjoy the new teams as much as the old

Originally posted by Pharoh
I know that my homerun numbers are skewed somewhat since twikoff's user league is set in Homerun Park, but even if I take those games out of consideration, I've played 6 there, the problem would still persist.



:lol:
I didnt even think about it skewing everyones numbers ;)

Originally posted by twikoff
Im pretty sure it wasnt me that said you would be sorry
Ive trained away a bunch of teams.. I still miss some of them, but Im not sorry about any
although it does suck to see a couple of them completely abandoned.. but i enjoy the new teams as much as the old

Oh :blush: sorry for the misquote Twik!.
Hmmmm....
There is something to be said about it being MY team from the get go.

I guess I will have to deal with the fact that I am just going to TRY and be the first guy to have a 200000+ team win PL1, despite the chips stacked against me....heck who would have thought I could win the CC from 2nd Division in my 1st season ever with Doc right? :thumbsup:

I cant trade Doc Holliday. I can always buy a stupid 800 team or something, PLUS I have the Hobbits(144588) and the Eastwoods(9634) to rely on.

oh yea.. i didnt mention..
even though I have traded away a handful of teams.. I havent ever given up my first team

Originally posted by twikoff
:lol:
I didnt even think about it skewing everyones numbers ;)


It's okay. I knew that it would before I signed up. Plus I had to play IdgIe, and we all know how badly that will skew one's numbers. ;)

:)

:lol:


my teams been blowing lately (not literally cause theyre lesbians) :)

Originally posted by Pharoh
I know I need to work on Contact and Skill, (am in the process already), but I didn't know it was this bad.

The Ballers have scored 398 runs in 36 games on 277 homeruns. That is not good. I know that my homerun numbers are skewed somewhat since twikoff's user league is set in Homerun Park, but even if I take those games out of consideration, I've played 6 there, the problem would still persist.

I have tried swithching the lineup around and spreading the best hitters out, but I still get plenty of solo shots. Any ideas? Is it simply more Skill that I need? I try to keep Run at a fairly high level, but could more Run Skill be needed? Any other ideas?

Doc Hollidays(9*) numbers so far in 64 games:

Runs - 778 = 12.15/game
HR's - 440 = 6.88/game
Hits - 1330 = 20.78/game
Team AVG = .415

Just an FYI....most of my season has been spent with a FULL pie in FIELDING....several half pies in Running and several 1/2 pies hitting . Be careful not to OVERHIT your team....dont forget to RUN :)

p.s. I am working on trying SKill TRAINING COMBINATIONS to see how it affects my players performances....WHo knows :shrug:

the Berlin Reichsmarschalls are now 10*!

:eek:

please praise me for my tremendous training skills now

nice job :up:

about time ;)

Originally posted by namrufmot
the Berlin Reichsmarschalls are now 10*!

:eek:

please praise me for my tremendous training skills now

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I thought there weren't going to be forfeits this weekend? I played my game against Rain City, but didn't watch to find the final score. Now I have a forfeit. I lost, but I'd rather post the real score.

I just signed up to be in the league. I'm new to Small ball, so take it easy on meh.

fresh meat! fresh meat! :)


btw...does anyone else think we should try to get like 5* ST teams to give to newbies so they dont have to suffer for so long?I think that is what keeps many of the newbies from becoming "real" dtslers....it takes too long to be competetive.

Originally posted by namrufmot
fresh meat! fresh meat! :)


btw...does anyone else think we should try to get like 5* ST teams to give to newbies so they dont have to suffer for so long?I think that is what keeps many of the newbies from becoming "real" dtslers....it takes too long to be competetive.

"real" dtslers dont use BRICKYARD ;)

Originally posted by effigy
I just signed up to be in the league. I'm new to Small ball, so take it easy on meh.

woot!
welcome aboard!

you have a team yet?
team number?
you have a week till this season is over to work on building your team up a bit..
alot of the best trainers in smallball are represented here in dtsl.. so be sure to ask lots of questions

Originally posted by namrufmot
fresh meat! fresh meat! :)


btw...does anyone else think we should try to get like 5* ST teams to give to newbies so they dont have to suffer for so long?I think that is what keeps many of the newbies from becoming "real" dtslers....it takes too long to be competetive.

ive already suggested we try to collect up some of these dead DT teams that people have from people who have quit and stuff.. and try to give those to new members..
i think training in ST is what runs people off
using DT, its more attractive to gut it out

Originally posted by twikoff
woot!
welcome aboard!

you have a team yet?
team number?
you have a week till this season is over to work on building your team up a bit..
alot of the best trainers in smallball are represented here in dtsl.. so be sure to ask lots of questions Yeah, I got a team.

Kentucky Claymen (419726) Clicky (http://207.188.30.98/go/on.ball.team?tid=180477)

I signed up at the DTSL site. So I guess I'll keep training for a week (real time, or game time?) and then I can start the season?

Originally posted by effigy
Yeah, I got a team.

Kentucky Claymen (419726) Clicky (http://207.188.30.98/go/on.ball.team?tid=180477)

I signed up at the DTSL site. So I guess I'll keep training for a week (real time, or game time?) and then I can start the season?

smallball seasons last 2 weeks.. and we have our dtsl seasons match them
we are about to go into the second week

a week from monday.. the season will reset, and the new dtsl season will start the following monday..
you will be placed in the 2nd division at that time.. to enjoy getting destroyed for a few seasons as you build your team up

Originally posted by effigy
Yeah, I got a team.

Kentucky Claymen (419726) Clicky (http://207.188.30.98/go/on.ball.team?tid=180477)

I signed up at the DTSL site. So I guess I'll keep training for a week (real time, or game time?) and then I can start the season?

Welcome aboard effigy!
I am fairly new here at the DTSL league too, however by asking many many questions as Twikoff suggested I have learned a TON!
It has really helped me and improved my training by leaps AND bounds.

Dont be SHY and jump on the "GAY BOAT RIDE" ;)
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/biggayal.jpg

Alright guys, thanks. :)

I jumped to the gun and started playing a game against another new time, it's tied 4-4 in the 5th.

So, what are the best training tips? ;)

build up a solid base up front
dont pick up a bat for the first couple seasons
spend at least the first couple weeks maxing everyone out at pitch skill and find your best pitcher (someone will detail the search for a pitcher shortly Im sure)

as soon as your hooked.. buy dt.. its WELL worth the money!!

and dont get discouraged about how bad you will lose to dtsl teams for the first few seasons
play plenty of games against teams equal to your skill level outside of dtsl :up:

Originally posted by effigy
Alright guys, thanks. :)

I jumped to the gun and started playing a game against another new time, it's tied 4-4 in the 5th.

So, what are the best training tips? ;)

Training Tips that you MUST know.

1. You will have to patient.
( it will take you ATLEAST 2-3 months to be anywhere NEAR competitive)

2. Join the Smallball forum, join it and search all over for training tips. Read them all. Try and understand them.

3. After reading the training over at SB Forums come back here and ask about them so that you get GOOD answers...DTSL members know their SH*T!

4.You will NOT and CAN NOT possibly compete in the DTSL until you reach a minimum of 8*'s (even in the lowest division). DOnt fret!

5. Continued patience.

6. Pick a trainging methodology(either train to find pitcher OR train to get hitting up) and dont worry about winning or losing games. Play as many as you want and have fun, but stick to teams around your star level or it wont be so much fun.

7. ASK QUESTIONS, but try and be specific about your questions....generic questions arent as likely to be as helpful.

8. Have fun , it takes time (seriously 2-4 months depending on how you train)

Good LUCK MAN!

Originally posted by Realmwalker
"real" dtslers dont use BRICKYARD ;)

i have no clue what you are talking about!

:runs out of thread:

Originally posted by namrufmot
i have no clue what you are talking about!

:runs out of thread:

:lol:

You're right I should've said it in German ...

;)

I put both my scrubs in power alone til they hit 8* each :) One has already hit 9* and the 8* is about to hit 9*, so maybe *im* the genius here and you guys arent. :) hehehe

Originally posted by IdgIe49
I put both my scrubs in power alone til they hit 8* each :) One has already hit 9* and the 8* is about to hit 9*, so maybe *im* the genius here and you guys arent. :) hehehe

Tell em GIRL!
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/242168/CLOWELL1.jpg

Snaps to you !

Originally posted by Realmwalker
I saw your response....NICE!
BTW - I can still get team 936....but 222222 is a good team and havent even reached 10*...... you said before that you thought getting the LOW ID is key if I have PL1 aspirations......however Twik says I'd probably be sorry.

I am vascillating.....sh*t!
Ask for Fred's opinion. He's been screwed in PL1 because of a high ID number. Wonder what he would tell you...

Originally posted by IdgIe49
I put both my scrubs in power alone til they hit 8* each :) One has already hit 9* and the 8* is about to hit 9*, so maybe *im* the genius here and you guys arent. :) hehehe

who told you not to do power? :hscratch:

no one, but ppl keep mentioning the pitcher thingy. of course, ive never followed that thinking. ;)

yea.. true.. your strategy is probably a really good one


hold that division 2 pennant up proudly :up:

:(

-ptth-

Thanks walker.

I think I'm gonna play this game for a few days, and if I don't grow into it, I'll just give it up. For one, I don't have THAT much time, so I'll see if I can do this. Thanks for all the tips.

Originally posted by twikoff
Im pretty sure it wasnt me that said you would be sorry
Ive trained away a bunch of teams.. I still miss some of them, but Im not sorry about any
although it does suck to see a couple of them completely abandoned.. but i enjoy the new teams as much as the old


quote:
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Originally posted by solipsta
Realm: Keep your team. You'll regret losing them later.
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Seriously.....ok....I was thinking about keeping them anyway, but can you give me at least some insight to your thinking Sol?


i know alittle late but i was catching up on the thread and was bored so i thought i would figure out who said it.
so were is sol? has he posted here since that post?

Effigy, just remember, until you beat my Balls, you'll never make it in the DTSL forum.


:D

I did play Berkley and got beat 33-0

Originally posted by effigy
Alright guys, thanks. :)

I jumped to the gun and started playing a game against another new time, it's tied 4-4 in the 5th.

So, what are the best training tips? ;) Welcome aboard. I'm the commish around these parts so if you have an issues with the league please direct them at twikoff. ;)

I've been trying to compile a thread of training tips over at the DTSL forum. Please also signup there as well.
http://www.dtsl.net/boards

Originally posted by Sn0
I did play Berkley and got beat 33-0

but I bet you were close to scoring :up:

Remember guys:

Originally posted by effigy
Thanks walker.

I think I'm gonna play this game for a few days, and if I don't grow into it, I'll just give it up. For one, I don't have THAT much time, so I'll see if I can do this. Thanks for all the tips.

I'm gonna try it out for now, so I guess just ignore my application. I hope I have the time, but it looks like more work than I thought, so I don't know if I can do this, but I'll try it for a week and we'll see.

naww.. really doesnt take that much time or thought, unless you put together darkelf type spreadsheets ;)

with dt and fps cranked up.. you can have your teams trained in 5 minutes every other day.. and then the 5-10 minutes spread out per day to kickoff league games and submit scores

today's dtsl scores

the new 10* reichsmarschalls 12
cahmber hill heat 6
#28431

question for guys who run a UL

say 10 people have joined..what do u type in the league manager to make each team play eachother twice?

Originally posted by whotony
i know alittle late but i was catching up on the thread and was bored so i thought i would figure out who said it.
so were is sol? has he posted here since that post?

I just got back from the island. Nice little time off...I'll start again tomorrow because I'm freaking tired! :)

Anyways, I think that anytime you give up a team that you've put a lot of effort into, you'll regret it. Or maybe it's just me. I have ALL the teams that I've had bookmarked and I check in on them from time to time. Anytime I see one die, it kills me.

But I'm just weird. I have emotional attachments to my teams. I traded away my first team (87773) a long time ago for a low ID team and regretted it horribly. I finally got them back and they'll die with me....

Originally posted by namrufmot
question for guys who run a UL

say 10 people have joined..what do u type in the league manager to make each team play eachother twice?

i dont think you have any option but everyone playing each other twice, home and away

you would type: game 10
to schedule games for the first 10 teams in your league

Originally posted by whotony
i know alittle late but i was catching up on the thread and was bored so i thought i would figure out who said it.
so were is sol? has he posted here since that post?

Thanks WHOTONY! :D
Yeah it was Sol! I decided to keep my team(Doc)

Originally posted by solipsta
I just got back from the island. Nice little time off...I'll start again tomorrow because I'm freaking tired! :)

Sol, You soccer team will need to be trained before 6 pm PT on Sunday. You want me to train them, or do you want to?

Originally posted by dancinns
There will be no forfeits from Sunday morning to Tuesday morning. So that means you'll have until Tuesday to play games from Saturday, Sunday and Monday....I think that's right. Anyway, there's no forfeits this weekend. Enjoy the holiday, but not Doc Holliday.
Just quoting this to make sure it's still the policy.

Originally posted by DarkElf
Sol, You soccer team will need to be trained before 6 pm PT on Sunday. You want me to train them, or do you want to?

I can do it. Thanks, yet again, for your help. :D

Originally posted by DarkElf
Just quoting this to make sure it's still the policy. Yup

his old team looks familiar....
http://207.188.30.98/go/on.ball.team?tid=71474

meant to say THIS old team looks familiar.

Originally posted by whotony
his old team looks familiar....
http://207.188.30.98/go/on.ball.team?tid=71474

he does that for several teams it seems...Hmmm..

:hscratch:

Hey Namrufmot;

Dude....I asked you to try and not play DOC more than twice a day....c'mon....there a tons of teams to test yourself with ok?

Thanks bro!
;)

UL Reminder:

1107 - already going.. going to forfeit these games after the software comes back up next monday

1108 - still need a few more teams.. this one is for teams currently in a dtsl division.. pw is dtsl2

1110 - still need a few more teams.. this one is for alternate teams not currently in a dtsl division. pw is scrubs

if you have any questions.. let me know

Originally posted by twikoff
UL Reminder:

1107 - already going.. going to forfeit these games after the software comes back up next monday

1108 - still need a few more teams.. this one is for teams currently in a dtsl division.. pw is dtsl2

1110 - still need a few more teams.. this one is for alternate teams not currently in a dtsl division. pw is scrubs

if you have any questions.. let me know

Yeah I have a question, why are we joining these leagues?

Originally posted by Lateralus
Yeah I have a question, why are we joining these leagues?

your not ;)

because we are playing around with the UL feature.. because we have too much time on our hands.. because we can beat up on more teams without hurting honor rating.. because they are just sooooo gay...

pick a reason